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« on: August 01, 2009, 03:31:44 PM » |
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Hey yall, new guy here I was just wondering what are the ways we can refuse the soon to be mandatory flu vaccines in the fall? I think i could write an affidavit. or could i just flay out say no.  sorry if i posted this in the wrong spot or if this has already been asked.
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2009, 03:35:57 PM » |
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I'm going for the flat out no "over my dead body" I'm in self quarantine (I work at home) go away approach.
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2009, 03:42:21 PM » |
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haha yeah i guess that will work.  what about the rest of us? think they will take the "over my dead body" if i live on campus at a college?
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2009, 03:52:11 PM » |
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Don't you mean: "You may not."? Because the so-called law is illegal, and it is deadly, untested, and an instrument to suicide, I am not taking it. We will see how this works out. 
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2009, 04:03:34 PM » |
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The best way, would be to put as much distance between yourself and any type of state-paid doctor. If they come after you, then you run as fast as you can. 
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2009, 04:06:10 PM » |
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Find the courage within be a leader and just say "NO!!!" We need to tell as many people as possible about the truth so more and more will follow suit.
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2009, 04:12:32 PM » |
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thanks guys for the input =]
it sounds like there really gearing up for this forced vaccination and i am doubtfull that there gonna let you say no.
could an affidavit be used?
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2009, 04:29:32 PM » |
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thanks guys for the input =]
it sounds like there really gearing up for this forced vaccination and i am doubtfull that there gonna let you say no.
could an affidavit be used?
They can gear up all they want and I will still refuse it!
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"Logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." ~ Rod Serling "Cops today are nothing but an armed tax collector" ~ Frank Serpico "To be normal, to drink Coca-Cola and eat Kentucky Fried Chicken is to be in a conspiracy against yourself." "People that don't want to make waves sit in stagnant waters."
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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2009, 05:03:13 PM » |
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they can put us in jail for a year and/or five us 250,000$ unless im mistaken. Does anyone know about affidavit's? do yall think that refuting our straw-man and refusing to admit we are the person would work? Look guys They are coming out with the big guns for this vaccination. i dont think simple refusal or runnings really gonna work. lets have a good brainstorm 
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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2009, 05:07:08 PM » |
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they can put us in jail for a year and/or five us 250,000$ unless im mistaken. Does anyone know about affidavit's? do yall think that refuting our straw-man and refusing to admit we are the person would work? Look guys They are coming out with the big guns for this vaccination. i dont think simple refusal or runnings really gonna work. lets have a good brainstorm  If I didn't know better, I would think that you are trying to frighten us into complacency. Some of us have said we are not taking the shot. I stand by what I say. I am not taking the shot. No ifs, ands, or buts, about it. I don't give a rat flip about what law they pass. It is against the constitution for them to even try. Read that, grow a pair, and stop worrying about all these BS laws. Furthermore I will go down fighting this. Do you understand?
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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2009, 05:15:54 PM » |
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Yeah i hear ya luckee.  i personally want to go down in an epic battle to defend the republic against tyranny, and not a dang flu shot but to each his own...
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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2009, 06:13:36 PM » |
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Just take the shot and quit being so worried. These thing's come around now and again. Flu's are going to happen whether the NWO exsist's or not. Take a deep breath, realize you're crazy, and take the shot. You're going to feel real bad, when someone in your family dies, because you were too pig-headed to see they want to protect you and your's. They love you, they have always loved you. They have your best interest in mind. Just like forced social security. You wouldn't save the money on your own, would you? You need the goverment. Of course if you don't agree, you can always grab that needle, and shove it their f*cking necks. Let's see what their response to forced vaccinations is. Some of this post may contain high levels of sarcasm.
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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2009, 06:27:34 PM » |
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How can we refuse swine flu vaccination shots?
By the laws of the US Constitution and with the protective orders granted by " Smith& Wesson, Colt, Springfield arms, Winchester, remington, etc .
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I am a realist that is slightly conservative yet I have some republican demeanor that can turn democrat when I feel the urge to flip independant. The truth shall set you free, if not a 45ACP round will do the trick.. HEHE
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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2009, 06:33:58 PM » |
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people have asked What if you already had the swine flu?This voids the vaccination's effect & you can not vaccinate a person in they had the flu (not that the vaccine is effective anyway) & if they suggest ( with force ) you take the vaccine, then use deadly force against them, what people can't see is the NWO want you dead, so if your forced regardless of what you tell them, then you know where you stand, it could mean life or death your choice I know where I stand 
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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2009, 06:39:36 PM » |
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How can we refuse swine flu vaccination shots?
By the laws of the US Constitution and with the protective orders granted by " Smith& Wesson, Colt, Springfield arms, Winchester, remington, etc .
You got that right  God bless AMERICA! 
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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2009, 07:58:08 PM » |
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so we are going with guns?
no affidavit or straw-man
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« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2009, 08:09:23 PM » |
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so we are going with guns?
no affidavit or straw-man Nothing like that at all. It's going to get to the point where people will refuse the swine flu shot and point a gun at the people who are trying to force them. Don't ever look at policemen, the courts, corporations or anything to do with the Government if you are trying to fight the NWO and their death serums. That's the way it is going to be, just like the good old days. 
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« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2009, 08:17:55 PM » |
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i gotta get real gun then. hunting rifles wont stop that shot.
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« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2009, 08:26:25 PM » |
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Hunting rifles will do fine, just make sure it is at least .30 cal.  If you get any semi-autos, a conversion to full-auto can be done, if you know how to do it. Just don't get caught. Hunting rifles and 12 gauges is all that can be gotten over here anyway. It's easier for you guys in the states to get hold of better stuff.
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« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2009, 08:28:41 PM » |
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this is total co intel fly paper to radicalize people into firing the first shot and thus you lose that simple whoever fires the first will lose if your going to be extremly militant and start making threats the FBI field office is hiring morons to be patsys every day
just my 2 cents
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« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2009, 08:31:01 PM » |
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this is total co intel fly paper to radicalize people into firing the first shot and thus you lose that simple whoever fires the first will lose if your going to be extremly militant and start making threats the FBI field office is hiring morons to be patsys every day
just my 2 cents Who said we would be firing the first shot? It's the Government that is going to be shooting people up with vaccines. Personally, I would take that injection over my dead body.
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« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2009, 08:44:54 PM » |
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Who said we would be firing the first shot? It's the Government that is going to be shooting people up with vaccines. Personally, I would take that injection over my dead body.
personally i would rather die miserable with a shot than in a hail of gun fire or just self quarantine myself and family
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« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2009, 09:15:49 PM » |
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I wonder if they pay newbie double-time to work Saturday nights. That's MY tax money, bud, so knock off early.
Personally, I'm still undecided on whether I'll let some stranger who works for a proven genocidal government inject me with genetically modified pus.
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« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2009, 09:24:14 PM » |
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So WTF, if the vaccines do work and I refuse, how the hell is that hurting others(society)? Isn't it in fact helping someone who would not have been given the shot? The evidence against vaccines is mounting, because by the time most of the vaccines were ever administered the epidemics were in decline. It's like me saying a threw a bus across the road because i pushed it as it was already leaving. It is even more damning evidence that the vaccines were the cause of minor spikes in the normal downward trends. I guess common sense is not common anymore. Here is the case that is referred to. It shows that tyranny has been a foot fro a very long time. JACOBSON v. COM. OF MASSACHUSETTS, 197 U.S. 11 (1905) http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=case&court=us&vol=197&page=11
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« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2009, 09:43:29 PM » |
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I still think the whole H1N1 flu is just a cover, I think the NWO has an ulterior plan. Maybe a new fabricated enemy with their "terror-cells" releasing some kind of "plague" with ties to some terror outfit in a new nation of their creation. 
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« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2009, 09:58:26 PM » |
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« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2009, 10:20:18 PM » |
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personally i would rather die miserable with a shot than in a hail of gun fire or just self quarantine myself and family Weak.
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« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2009, 10:41:20 PM » |
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Its hard to imagine a forced flu vac...If it goes down that could be the last straw that makes the american people get up and raise hell. If enough people do not want to be jailed or vaccinated this could be it and thats why the military is to be involved. The whole thing is downright terrifying and I dont mean the swine flu.
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« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2009, 10:47:02 PM » |
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Weak.
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« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2009, 11:18:54 PM » |
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hardly its called sense
Thank God our founders had sense enough to say no to tyranny! “Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” ~Samuel Adams
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« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2009, 12:03:24 AM » |
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hardly its called sense
If I was killed in a hail of gunfire for resisting the swine flu shot, I would go down happy knowing that I had done that one thing right in a world of lies.
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« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2009, 12:10:59 AM » |
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I am not saying resistance is futile or anything like that mind you I just don't see the point
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« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2009, 12:19:49 AM » |
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I am not saying resistance is futile or anything like that mind you I just don't see the point So let me get this straight. If you refuse to line up for the shot or co-operate with the 'authorities' and they come to your door and force you to give up your God-given liberties under gunpoint...you are going to let these guys frump you into taking the shot just to save your ass? That's cowardly and un-Christian, I certainly am not going to cower down to these NWO cronies just to live in a crap world. The whole reason the NWO has been allowed to get to the point they are at is because a whole load of gutless people in gutless, cardboard-minded nations have let them do it. Taking the swine flu is just succumbing to the devil.
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« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2009, 12:32:13 AM » |
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So let me get this straight. If you refuse to line up for the shot or co-operate with the 'authorities' and they come to your door and force you to give up your God-given liberties under gunpoint...you are going to let these guys frump you into taking the shot just to save your ass?
That's cowardly and un-Christian, I certainly am not going to cower down to these NWO cronies just to live in a crap world. The whole reason the NWO has been allowed to get to the point they are at is because a whole load of gutless people in gutless, cardboard-minded nations have let them do it. Taking the swine flu is just succumbing to the devil.
straw man Catholic lets stay on topic here on how to avoid shots, and quit following the every cop is bad mindset please
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« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2009, 12:38:39 AM » |
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straw man Catholic lets stay on topic here on how to avoid shots, and quit following the every cop is bad mindset please We are on topic xTruthSeekerx, you just brought it off topic by mentioning that I am Catholic, which has nothing to do with this topic. I never said that every cop is bad, but I suspect every cop that I meet, because some of them cannot be trusted, which makes it impossible to trust every cop that I meet. Fix your spelling too, and don't give me this nonsense about you have had a difficult life. I don't think I have ever met a fundie that has had a taste of pain before.
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« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2009, 12:52:30 AM » |
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We are on topic xTruthSeekerx, you just brought it off topic by mentioning that I am Catholic, which has nothing to do with this topic. I never said that every cop is bad, but I suspect every cop that I meet, because some of them cannot be trusted, which makes it impossible to trust every cop that I meet.
Fix your spelling too, and don't give me this nonsense about you have had a difficult life. I don't think I have ever met a fundie that has had a taste of pain before.
taste of pain? Oh you don't want to get me going your the one who brought up the Un-Christian thing which is a strawman and unrelated to this topic
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« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2009, 01:02:44 AM » |
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taste of pain? Oh you don't want to get me going your the one who brought up the Un-Christian thing which is a strawman and unrelated to this topic Yeah, a taste of pain. Like a difficult life, which most ordinary and real people have. You said in another thread that your spelling is bad because you have supposedly had a hard life, which is a bollocks excuse for bad grammar. North Koreans have an almost 99% adult literacy rate, and they are some of the most oppressed people in the world. There is no God damn excuse for people in first world countries that have free access to education to have shoddy grammar. This is an example of how lazy and untrained the young people of today are. As for the un-Christian thing, I mentioned that because I thought as a fundie, that you could at least relate to that. Guess I was wrong, you can't say I don't try, can you? Anyway, this thread has gone off topic, as they tend to do.  Dolce Vita, to answer your question plainly, if you want to avoid the shot, you are just going to have to dig your heels in, even if that involves a confrontation. 
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« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2009, 01:05:22 AM » |
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taste of pain? Oh you don't want to get me going your the one who brought up the Un-Christian thing which is a strawman and unrelated to this topic
Truthseekers, you are itching to be banned again aren't you. You are the one highjacking the thread. This is not a thread about religion at all. So just stop.
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« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2009, 01:06:50 AM » |
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i do have a well written form out if anyone wants it and everything
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