debunk this: FEMA Coffins...patented!

[Dig]

I think if Sane could tattoo this poster on his body he would! I swear its like hot-keyed on his keyboard for instant posting! lol

c'mon now, I reduced the size and held back on most posts. I am trying. And it has changed like 3 times since last you saw it.

[Elder]

From the Patent:
"Both the cover and the container are made from material that produces no atmospheric polluting gases or vapors when burned."
"The present invention is a multi-functional cremation container that is able to contain a corpse as well as the fluids and noxious vapors expelled from the corpse."
"Additionally, there is need for an inexpensive body cremation container which is at once strong, impermeable, durable, easily stored and shipped in quantity and which is burned without producing residues and pollutants.

Continually referred to as a "cremation container" in the patent and the DuPont Corporation makes an appearance.

[Dig]

From the Patent:
"Both the cover and the container are made from material that produces no atmospheric polluting gases or vapors when burned."
"The present invention is a multi-functional cremation container that is able to contain a corpse as well as the fluids and noxious vapors expelled from the corpse."
"Additionally, there is need for an inexpensive body cremation container which is at once strong, impermeable, durable, easily stored and shipped in quantity and which is burned without producing residues and pollutants.

Continually referred to as a "cremation container" in the patent and the DuPont Corporation makes an appearance.

DuPont?

I feel much safer now.

[canandy]

i say fill them with ice, add a pallet of beer,get willie and the band and part on!

[Letsbereal]

http://www.texemarrs.com/052000/desear.htm

[Sub-X]

You could always give him a call...?

 Just say you are trying to do a college report on the German rocket scientist and their contribution to the space race.

+1 604 8525125

 

Or you could just take the direct approach and ask him is he the son or grandson of a Nazi,I think maybe he would respect you more 

[lavosslayer]

c'mon now, I reduced the size and held back on most posts. I am trying. And it has changed like 3 times since last you saw it.

oh I'm grateful, I just like giving you crap about it cause its just funny...its all in fun though! I think we all can use a laugh every now and then with all the doom and gloom coming out in the news lately (even though I still think we will whoop their asses in the end!)

[Letsbereal]

[lavosslayer]

Look dare Jimbo! Dem FEMA folk just dun run dem over some armadillas! Whooie!

[Dig]

Kansas City is ready, is your city?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Northland is home to a FEMA warehouse that stands ready to help in a disaster
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/story/1356280.html
By EMILY VAN ZANDT
The Kansas City Star

At FEMA’s newest “pre-positioned” site, in Clay County, Dan Bickham, logistics and maintence manager, demonstrated a heat-sensing device Wednesday.
More News

If a disaster leaves emergency workers in the Midwest without supplies, help will arrive in the form of two tractor-trailers full of equipment from Kansas City.

A warehouse in Clay County is home to the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s newest “pre-positioned” site, the ninth in the country and the only site in the Midwest. The facility stores emergency equipment that state and local agencies may need when responding to chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear incidents or natural disasters.

Local leaders and first responders, and representatives from state emergency management agencies on Thursday were to tour the facility during an open house.

The equipment, including protective gear, search and rescue tools, and medical supplies, is organized and stored in shipping pods on two tractor-trailers parked in the facility. In all, the site is ready to resupply 100 firefighters, 25 law enforcement officials and 25 emergency medical service workers, said FEMA’s Edward McGuire.

The equipment is familiar to those who work at the new facility — the two full-time and twelve part-time employees are retired firefighters and emergency responders from the Kansas City area.

Although supplies from a site have never been deployed in the Midwest, McGuire pointed to the 2007 tornado destruction in Greensburg, Kan., as the type of natural disaster the site might be asked to help with.

The new facility will serve areas in a 600-mile radius, including Chicago; Minneapolis; Des Moines, Iowa; and Omaha, Neb. Kansas City was chosen for its central location and easy access to major interstates and air transportation.

FEMA plans to build two more sites in the U.S., most likely in the southwestern and northern portions of the country, McGuire said.

To reach Emily Van Zandt, call 816-234-4412 or send e-mail evanzandt@kcstar.com.

[lavosslayer]

Since when do you need to sign a non-disclosure form to become a dealer of caskets?


 From their  website:     

The synthetic product is less expensive and an environmental superior alternative to traditional wood and metal caskets.

It has environmental advantages over cardboard and plasterboard cremation containers because the COVTAIN product is formulated to cremate more quickly, reducing energy costs, and virtually eliminating airborne emissions.

In pandemic and natural disaster triage situations, the stacking and airtight product is superior to body bags for storage, identification and sanitation. The company holds a US patent.

Llicence agreements are available Contact COVTAIN at COVTAIN  INTERNATIONAL.

Click here to see a SAMPLE LICENSING AGREEMENT

If you are interested in distributing the container, please contact COVTAIN. If you sign a non-disclosure form we have information to share with you such as:

Contact COVTAIN  INTERNATIONAL for a Quick Overview and have a non-disclosure form emailed for you to sign and return.

That is really strange...I wonder if their only purpose is for mass graves and the NDA is to make sure you don't let the cat outta the bag...

[JBS]

Wow, it sounds like these bastards are planning quite an attack, er, uh,  I mean, expecting quite an attack! Gee, I'm so glad they are watching out for us little pee-ons!

[JBS]

http://www.texemarrs.com/052000/desear.htm

Me too!, but I would be a little more selective.

[Giordano]

This is a slightly older update that we posted to Neithercorp bringing together the facts on the FEMA coffins and with info on Vantage and Polyguard.  After seeing the info posted here recently on the FEMA Coffin Patent.......

http://www.scribd.com/doc/17690179/Multi-Functional-Cremation-Container-For

.....which proves beyond a doubt that they are not just "burial vaults" but COFFINS, I thought I would repost some of our information here.  Take note that Vantage is owned by Rowan Tech., which does business mainly with the DOD, and whose main products include industrial grade incinerators and furnaces.  Hmmm....


http://www.neithercorp.us/nforum/current_events/fema_coffin_update-t879.0.html

[Giordano]

This is a slightly older update that we posted to Neithercorp bringing together the facts on the FEMA coffins and with info on Vantage and Polyguard.  After seeing the info posted here recently on the FEMA Coffin Patent.......

http://www.scribd.com/doc/17690179/Multi-Functional-Cremation-Container-For

.....which proves beyond a doubt that they are not just "burial vaults" but COFFINS, I thought I would repost some of our information here.  Take note that Vantage is owned by Rowan Tech., which does business mainly with the DOD, and whose main products include industrial grade incinerators and furnaces.  Hmmm....


http://www.neithercorp.us/nforum/current_events/fema_coffin_update-t879.0.html

[Giordano]

Good idea, burlguy!  I'll do that!

[chris jones]

They need to make the first genocidal run look much cleaner so that the masses do not uprise.

Remember in ww2 how the pictures of the mass graves where shown to the American public and it caused outrage?

They have learned from their mistake and now their eugenics program will be sterilized from shocking scenes.  

Hi Burlyguy.
Sanitized genocide. Excellant point, they are coverup artists.

[Letsbereal]

MASS evacuation bus on the road! swineflu-fema camp preparation?? you bet... http://tinyurl.com/mgronu



FOX NEWS MILITARY MASS QUARANTINES http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtGofsHaj3M

[rosso]

Since when do you need to sign a non-disclosure form to become a dealer of caskets?

 From their  website:
The synthetic product is less expensive and an environmental superior alternative to traditional wood and metal caskets.

It has environmental advantages over cardboard and plasterboard cremation containers because the COVTAIN product is formulated to cremate more quickly, reducing energy costs, and virtually eliminating airborne emissions.

In pandemic and natural disaster triage situations, the stacking and airtight product is superior to body bags for storage, identification and sanitation. The company holds a US patent.

Llicence agreements are available Contact COVTAIN at COVTAIN  INTERNATIONAL.

Click here to see a SAMPLE LICENSING AGREEMENT

If you are interested in distributing the container, please contact COVTAIN. If you sign a non-disclosure form we have information to share with you such as:
Contact COVTAIN  INTERNATIONAL for a Quick Overview and have a non-disclosure form emailed for you to sign and return.

I would be concerned about finding a new web administrator for an international company that CAN find the spellcheck function if I worked for a human TupperWare distributor.

[Nedkelly]

So they are coffins after all!! how many do you think are spread around, millions or or what??

[bs]

or what!

[lavosslayer]

yeah just look on youtube. There are videos from all around the country that show rows and rows of these coffins.

The funny thing is, I still can't convince my father that they are coffins for us, even after showing him the patent and the videos with the guy describing what the landowner in Georgia told him about the deal he made with the government to keep them there. I think its more denial then anything as this is a pretty heavy blow to the psyche, to see with your own eyes their plans for your own future. Is there a place online that has those documents AJ talks about from the cemeteries to dig the mass graves?

[bs]

Heres an old clipping which may help in the scheme of things gathering info...

FEMA, La. outsource Katrina body count to firm implicated in body-dumping scandals

Raw Story | September 15 2005

The Federal Emergency Management Agency has hired Kenyon International to set up a mobile morgue for handling bodies in Baton Rouge, Louisiana following H urricane Katrina, RAW STORY has learned.

Kenyon is a subsidiary of Service Corporation International (SCI), a scandal-ridden Texas-based company operated by a friend of the Bush family. Recently, SCI subsidiaries have been implicated in illegally discarding and desecrating corpses.

Louisiana governor Katherine Blanco subsequently inked a contract with the firm after talks between FEMA and the firm broke down. Kenyon's original deal was secured by the Department of Homeland Security.

In other words, FEMA and then Blanco outsourced the body count from Hurricane Katrina -- which many believe the worst natural disaster in U.S. history -- to a firm whose parent company is known for its "experience" at hiding and dumping bodies.

The Menorah Gardens cemetery chain, owned by SCI, desecrated vaults, removed hundreds of bodies from two cemeteries in Florida and dumped the gruesome remains in woods frequented by wild hogs, investigators discovered in 2001. In one case, a backhoe was used to crack open a vault, remove corpses and make room for more dead bodies.

SCI paid $100 million to settle a lawsuit filed by outraged family members of the deceased.

A secretary at the lawfirm that sued SCI over the Florida cemetery scandals gasped when informed that FEMA had outsourced handling of Katrina victims' bodies to an SCI subsidiary.

"Oh, good lord!" she said.

Peter Hartmann, general manager of the Menorah Gardens Cemetery chain, was later found dead in his car from carbon monoxide poisoning outside his parents' home in an apparent suicide.

RAW STORY calls to FEMA were not returned.

Waltrip, chairman of SCI, is a longtime friend of Bush's father, former President George Herbert Walker Bush. The firm's political action committee donated $45,000 to George W. Bush's 1994 gubernatorial campaign.

The company also contributed more than $100,000 for construction of the George H.W. Bush presidential library.

"It is appalling that the Bush administration �- which has already badly bungled its response to hurricane Katrina �- would hire a company with a record of gross mismanagement of mortuary services," said Melanie Sloan, executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics, a Washington D.C.-based watchdog group. "I can only imagine that this decision was made because of President Bush's long-time friendship with the head of SCI, Robert Waltrip."

SCI also owned fifteen funeral homes named as defendants in a lawsuit filed on behalf of family members alleging "macabre mishandling, abuse and desecration of bodies" by Tri-State Crematory in Georgia. The lawsuit accused SCI-owned funeral homes of sending bodies to the unlicensed, unregulated crematorium, where never-incinerated corpses were found piled outdoors and stuffed in sheds in 2000.

Some vaults designed to hold one body each had 67 sets of human remains stuffed inside, investigators discovered. SCI was among the companies ordered to pay settlement fees to family members, a legal source has confirmed to RAW STORY.

Kenyon bills itself as the world's leading disaster management company. It provided morgue support services following the 9/11 plane crash in Pennsylvania and the Asian tsunami.

As North America's largest funeral and cemetery company, SCI operates 1,500 mortuaries and cemeteries nationwide.

The company's website claims the firm is dedicated to "compassionately supporting families at difficult times, celebrating the significance of lives that have been lived, and preserving memories that transcend generations, with dignity and honor."

SCI was also involved in an earlier scandal in Texas. Eliza May, former Texas Funeral Service Commission Director, filed a lawsuit accusing George W. Bush, then Governor, of obstructing an investigation into SCI license violations. May was fired following a dispute with Waltrip.

Waltrip and an SCI lobbyist met with Governor Bush's chief of staff, Joe Allbaugh (Allbaugh was later appointed head of FEMA after Bush became President, but left to become a lobbyist representing Halliburton, among other corporate clients).

According to Newsweek, Bush stopped by and said to Waltrip, "Hey, Bobby, are those people still messing with you?"

May, a Democrat, sought to force Bush to testify in the case, but in August 1999, a Texas judge tossed out a subpoena issued by May's lawyers for Bush to give a deposition. Bush, who was not a defendant, called May's claims "frivolous" and denied knowing the circumstances of her ouster.

In 1999, when Bush was gearing up to run for the presidency, Texas Governor Rick Perry approved a settlement for May. SCI paid $55,000; the state of Texas shelled out the balance without admitting wrongdoing in May's termination.

Jennifer Crider, spokeswoman for House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), expressed concern over FEMA's choice of an SCI subsidiary and questioned whether the selection was made through a no-bid process.

"The tragedy in the Gulf States must not be compounded by disrespecting those who have died," Crider told RAW STORY. "It's critical that government contracts be subjected to scrutiny to ensure that there has been no fraud or abuse of taxpayer money or interest."

Democrats have called for formation of an anti-fraud commission to investigate no-bid contracts awarded in relation to Hurricane Katrina, she added.

Why FEMA chose to outsource mortuary services to a paid contractor is also mystery to Dan Buckner, co-owner of the Gowen-Smith Chapel in the Gulf area. Buckner had planned to serve with the Disaster Mortuary Operational Responses Team, which reportedly told Buckner's partner, Gary Hicks of Paducah, KY, to expect up to 40,000 deaths from Katrina in Louisiana and Mississippi.

Upon learning of Kenyon's contract, Buckner expressed puzzlement. He told the Shelbyville Times-Gazette, "Volunteers would have gone at no charge."

Clarification: After FEMA began working with Kenyon, they were subsequently contracted by Louisiana Governor Blanco. It was Louisiana that signed a formal contract.

Funeralgate
The Skeleton in Bush's Closet that won't go away

Hereinreality | September 15, 2005

Here's a new chapter in an old scandal involving a Bush contributor and longtime family friend, Robert Waltrip. This time it's the desecration of dead bodies, and George W. Bush is directly linked to this scandal (as is former FEMA director Joe Allbaugh,  GW's Chief of Staff while governor of Texas). According to Fox News, Waltrip's company, a cemetery company called Service Corporation International (also known as Dignity Memorial) was "recycling" graves, removing the bodies that were there originally and throwing them in the woods to use the space to house new customers at two Jewish cemeteries in Florida.

Bush's connection to the story is that he was subpoenaed in 1999 but refused to testify in a lawsuit by an ousted Texas state employee as to what his involvement was in halting an investigation into SCI's embalming practices, among other things.   

This was a big Texas scandal for our president at the time, but as you will learn from this Washington Post article dated August 31, 1999, a Texas judge put everything right for then-governor Bush, just in time to campaign for the Presidency.

Taxpayers of the state of Texas and SCI settled the lawsuit for $210,000 on November 9, 2001, weeks before the gruesome discovery made at two cemeteries in Florida caught the brief attention of the media.

From Fox News December 20, 2001 :

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. - Attorneys suing a cemetery company accused of recycling graves showed grisly photos and video footage Thursday of crushed burial vaults and human remains discarded in the woods. 
   
RELATED:

Gruesome Photos, Video Show Bodies Discarded in Woods Behind Cemetery

FEMA Director Joe Allbaugh Resigns: Skeletons Here, There, and Everywhere... Literally

Bush named as defendant in SCI suit

Cemetery manager found dead from apparent suicide

State inspecting other SCI cemeteries; plans to sue

Menorah Garden's
Makeshift Vaults

Which Funeral Homes in your area are owned by or are affiliated with SCI?

State of Florida sues SCI

Families Relate their Suspicions

Foley Calls for Federal Probe

Riled families barred from visiting cemetery

They also presented internal documents they say show Menorah Gardens & Funeral Chapels in West Palm Beach and its owner, Houston-based Service Corporation International, were aware of the grave desecrations. SCI is the world's largest cemetery company.

The attorneys represent 10 families who say their loved ones were dug up and dumped in the woods, buried in the wrong graves or buried in vaults on top of each other instead of side by side as the families had paid
for. More than 1,000 people could become part of the class-action lawsuit, they said.

"That body that is placed to rest for eternity is now destroyed, maligned, abused," said attorney Ervin A. Gonzalez.

SCI officials did not immediately return a call Thursday but said Wednesday that they had no knowledge of any wrongdoing.  The state attorney general's office is investigating Menorah Gardens and four other South Florida cemeteries owned by SCI.

A videotape and photos taken by private investigators showed a leg bone beside chunks of a concrete vault, in which coffins are placed. They also show Jewish burial shrouds, and a Star of David next to finger bones.

A former cemetery worker led investigators to the remains, attorneys said.

Remarks in the burial book, obtained from former employees, included "no room for spouse," "move Mrs. Kolin" and "dig this grave double deep."  Another handwritten note said: "Where are Lippitis and who are Haskells and are they both deceased? Move Haskell marker."

The pages show "there are several hundred people who have purchased graves, premium contracts purchased years ago, that do not have a place to be laid to rest," said co-counsel Neal Hirschfeld.

Myra Stone of Lake Worth said her parents bought side-by-side graves in 1982. Her father died in 1994, but another man allegedly was buried next to him in her mother's grave.

When her mother died last year, the cemetery's operators dug up the man's vault and threw most of his remains in the woods, according to a former employee.

"I understand that some of his remains are still in her grave," Stone said. "I am just horrified."

The lawsuit, filed Wednesday, seeks unspecified damages.

"We've investigated allegations that we thought too heinous to be accurate, too horrible to be true, over the last several years," Hirschfeld said.



UPDATE:  Several of the funeral homes being sued for using the Georgia crematory where hundreds of desecrated corpses have been found were owned by SCI.

 

[Nedkelly]

or what!

Ok so not good then  

[phasma]

I can`t believe someone would even bother to patent these things  Big giant plastic boxes capable of holding a bunch of dead ppl . . .

Ok so not good then 

My great grandfathers name was Ned Kelly !

[bs]

I can`t believe someone would even bother to patent these things  Big giant plastic boxes capable of holding a bunch of dead ppl . . .


My great grandfathers name was Ned Kelly !

This is believable...whats not is all the awesome patents the ol world money horders have shelved to kill and enslave us with worldf**king technology whilst motherearth saving/enhancing energy sources/inventions and systems are destroyed and hidden.

RIP TESLA!

[Rozrr]

http://www.polyguardvaults.com/

Found this they are exactly the same as the ones stored on land next to the FEMA camps.

[Rozrr]

This is a link to the application for the patent to manufacture the Swine Flu Vaccine. Note the date... 2007.

The pandemic has been declared in 2009.

How more obvious can this be that the whole thing has been orchestrated as a means to cull the population.

I live in the UK and do not know of any camps similar to the dreadful FEMA camps. If anyone does can they please let me know. I am sure many others will want to know. It looks right now that America is going to be taking the brunt of this.

[Triadtropz]

wouldn't giant crematoriums be more efficient....

[Please Wake Up!]

One of the sheep on another forum that I am on said something like this... "Aren't you happy that the government is thinking ahead for when/if thousands die from the Swine Flu?  Would you rather, the bodies get sent out to the landfill". 

 

[luckee1]

One of the sheep on another forum that I am on said something like this... "Aren't you happy that the government is thinking ahead for when/if thousands die from the Swine Flu?  Would you rather, the bodies get sent out to the landfill". 

Hopefully you responded that you would rather people not die at all!  Refusal of the vaccine will thwart all the deaths.  Then of course refer to all the documentation we got on the crap in the vaccines. 

[freedomrik]

The Covtain International is a manufacturing company specializing in environmentally friendly cremation caskets It was founded in 1986 by the current CEO Raymond von Braun. Aiming to reduce gas-polluting emissions the company has developed a low cost container suitable for cremation and viewing. It is strong, lightweight and very functional casket made of composite materials. There are many more competitive advantages of Covtain coffins.
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Address details

Company name:

Covtain International Inc.

Address:

P.O. Box 661,
V2S 6R7 Abbotsford

Province:

British Columbia

Country:

Canada

Fixed-line telephone:

show telephone +1 604 8525125

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WWW:

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Still no family history on this Guy?

[deconstructmyhouse]

LOL. They drew a little "package" on the guy in the coffin.

 

and a cute little six pack! 
 

[Rini200]

Yeah that video on youtube scared the shit out of me from nuffrespect. *shutters*

[tsurfer2000h]

I am not sure that many people will like what I am about to post. I am going to debunk the fema coffins in Ga. I hope your wig is on tight because this is going to flip it. Don't know if this has been posted here yet so here it is..This is coming from ip.com




US Patent Publication (Source: USPTO)
Publication No. US 5425163 published on 20-Jun-1995
Application No. US 8/69980 filed on 28-May-1993
Inventors
Von Braun; Raymond M. [+1] [-1]
Montebello, CA
Milby; Robert V.
Montebello, CA
Abstract
A multi-functional cremation container for a cadaver is provided. A rectangular container is enclosed on five sides by four container side panels and a bottom panel. The sixth side is an upwardly facing open top for providing access to the internal volume within the container. The side panels terminate at the open top in a first annular horizontal peripheral groove and a downturned external flange having a downfacing annular edge. Each side is sloped so as to allow multiple cremation containers to be nestled for compact storage and easy transportation. A rectangular cover has a horizontal top panel with four peripheral, downwardly extending cover side panels. The cover side panels fit over the container flange for closing the container, and include formed therein a plurality of reliefs for carrying the casket. The top panel has a peripheral upwardly facing second annular horizontal groove for nesting within the first annular groove as a moisture barrier. Each of the cover side panels includes a latching rib for fitting against the downfacing annular edge of the flange of the container. Both the cover and the container are manufactured from a material that produces no atmospheric polluting gases or vapors when burned.

Classifications
International: A61G 17/00
National: 27/7; 27/14; 27/35; 428/913
Field of Search: 27/35; 27/10; 27/2; 27/7; 27/14; 27/17; 27/DIG. 1; 428/913 [+5] [-5]
Patent References
US 749763 [US 749763]  Jan-1904   
US 1234180 [US 1234180]  Jul-1917   
US 1348579 Burial-casket  Aug-1920  [+23] [-23] 
US 1507957 Composition wall for caskets  Sep-1924   
US 1705410 Burial vault  Mar-1929 27/35 
US 1727242 Burial vault  Sep-1929 27/35 
US 1730666 Composition coffin  Oct-1929   
US 2004454 Burial vault  Jun-1935 27/35 
US 2156552 Burial receptacle  May-1939 27/3 
US 2327949 Casket  Aug-1943 27/3 
US 2448923 Casket and method of making the same  Sep-1948 27/3 
US 2527464 Waterproof cement vault  Oct-1950 27/7 
US 2579756 Plastic casket  Dec-1951 27/7 
US 2617171 Vacuum sealed casket  Nov-1952 27/7 
US 3164880 Plastic casket  Jan-1965 27/17 
US 3367004 Laminated container, especially coffin  Feb-1965 27/3 
US 3470593 COFFIN WITH HAND-ENGAGING PERIPHERAL FLANGE  Oct-1969 27/7 
US 3545055 COFFIN  Dec-1970 27/7 
US 3868799 Burial vault  Mar-1975 27/2 
US 3997948 Modular pet burial casket  Dec-1976 27/7 
US 4253220 Burial vaults  Mar-1981 27/7 
US 4407053 Cover for caskets  Oct-1983 27/14 
US 4607417 Storage system for cremated remains  Aug-1986 27/1 
US 4780940 Viewing pouch particularly for bodies dead of a communicable disease  Nov-1988 27/28 
FR 1331992  Jun-1963 27/7 
NL 6510367  Feb-1966 27/7 

Examiners
Primary: Friedman; Carl D.
Assistant: Aubrey; Beth A.

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Supplemental Information (Source: DOCDB)
Inventors
VON BRAUN RAYMOND M [+1] [-1]
US
MILBY ROBERT V
US
Priority
US 69980 A  28-May-1993
Classifications
International: A61G 17/00
National: 27/7; 27/14; 27/35; 428/913
European: A61G 17/00

Ok then there is this from ip.com

US Patent Publication (Source: USPTO)
Publication No. US 5511345 published on 30-Apr-1996
Application No. US 8/90677 filed on 13-Jul-1993
Inventors
Jones; Dale C. [+1] [-1]
Conyers, GA
Lacy; Michael A.
Conyers, GA
Assignees
Vantage Products Corporation
Conyers, GA
Abstract
A lawn crypt is fabricated from molded unitary plastic structural members. The structural members are attached to one another so as to inhibit lateral movement therebetween by pins inserted through interengaging protuberances extending outward from the sides of the structural members. The protuberances resemble half-circles or partially open knuckles. Every adjacent protuberance of each structural member opens in the opposite direction. The lawn crypt allows burial chamber lids to be cast in place by the use of a unitary plastic molded lid form that becomes part of the lid after casting. The lid form includes molded-in sockets for restraining concrete reinforcing bars placed therein.

Classifications
International: E04H 13/00; E04C 2/32
National: 52/136; 52/70; 52/142; 52/284; 52/582.1; 52/630 [+3] [-3]
Field of Search: 52/65; 52/70; 52/71; 52/582.1; 52/591.1; 52/591.2; 52/591.5; 52/281; 52/284; 52/285.1; 52/285.4; 52/270; 52/272; 52/136; 52/134; 52/139; 52; 52/142; 52/137; 52/630 [+17] [-17]
Patent References
US 795527 [US 795527]  Jul-1905 52/139 
US 3230674 Combination burial liner and vault and method of burial  Jan-1966 52/137 
US 3618991 CORNER JOINTS BETWEEN ANGULARLY RELATED, MOLDED WALLS AND STRUCTURES UTILIZING THEM  Nov-1971 52/285.4 [+4] [-4] 
US 3772826 BURIAL CRYPT AND PLANTER  Nov-1973 52/137 
US 3958378 Burial crypt  May-1975 52/136 
US 4648219 Lawn crypt  Mar-1987 52/136 
US 4880210 Removable and stackable hoistway door assesmbly  Nov-1989 52/70 

Examiners
Primary: Safavi; Michael
Attorney, Agent or Firm
Seidel Gonda Lavorgna & Monaco

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Supplemental Information (Source: DOCDB)
Inventors
JONES DALE C [+1] [-1]
US
LACY MICHAEL A
US
Assignees/Applicants
VANTAGE PRODUCTS CORP
US
Priority
US 90677 A  13-Jul-1993
Classifications
International: E04H 13/00; 6E 4C; E04C 2/10; E04C 2/20
National: 52/136; 52/70; 52/142; 52/284; 52/582.1; 52/630 [+3] [-3]
European: E04C 2/20; E04H 13/00

As you can see they have totally different patent numbers, and as you see they don't have any patent numbers that match. Oh we are not done yet, because I also have this.

[tsurfer2000h]

Rest of post from above...
Vice President of Operations Michael Lacey said that the theories regarding the property, and what's on it, aren't quite accurate.  According to Lacey, there are about 50,000 of the burial vaults on the property which Vantage leases, located at 1200 Madison Industrial Boulevard.  The land is leased from Conyers Welding & Supply and has for four or five years, a fact that Conyers Welding & Supply has confirmed.  Conyers Welding took over the lease when the property was purchased from Robert Usury in 2000.  Usury purchased the property in 1989, according to the information portal provided by the Morgan County Tax Assessor's Office and the Morgan County Online Public Property Portal.

As the vaults were placed on the site around 1997 or 1998, there may have been as many as 70,000 or 80,000 to begin with.  "It's no where near the quantity they talk about on the Internet,"  Lacy has said.  This quantity of burial vaults, Vantage's Standard Air Seal in black, also the least expensive model and the most in-demand, was made to cater to what Lacy calls the funeral industry's "pre-need".  This "pre-need" occurs when people make arrangements for their funeral before they actually pass away, so that the family doesn't have to go through the additional stress of making arrangements.  When these arrangements are made, the products are paid for; obviously, though, they are not yet needed.  So, Vantage stores the product until the person dies, and the product is needed.

Additionally, long time residents say the burial vaults have been there for over 10 years.

From:  MLacy@VantageProducts.com
Subject:  Fw:  Enquiry
Date:  29 July 2008 05:48:44 BDT
To: [Redacted]

[Redacted]

The property on Lions Club Road in Madison, Georgia is leased by Vantage Products.

The product stored on the property are standard burial vaults, please see our web page for information on this product - www.vantageproducts.com

The majority of cemeteries across the United States require the use of a burial vault when a body is interred.  The use of a burial vault, plastic or concrete, is to prevent the collapse of the ground in the cemetery and to protect the casket placed inside.

In the funeral and/or death care industry there is a common practice of people making their funeral arrangements prior to death.  Many people like to make their own selections for the casket and burial vaults that will be used at the time of their death.  Once this selection has been made the local funeral home that has made arrangements can purchase the burial vault product from Vantage Products and we will store it for them until that person dies.

We maintain detailed records of ownership of the products and require a certificate of ownership to be sent to use before products can be released.  Additionally, we are annually audited by several states including Georgia to insure that we have all of the products that our records indicate and that are on file with each of the participating states.

These products are not owned by any one individual person, company or the government.  Additionally, there are only about 50,000 vaults in storage in Madison, no where near the quantity that is being discussed openly on the net.

In the United States there are approximately 1,300,000 deaths each year.  Of those deaths there are about 900,000 in ground burials every year.  Only a small percentage of those people have pre arranged their burial.

I hope this has answered your questions.  Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have additional questions.

Cordially,
Michael A. Lacy
Vice President of Operations
Vantage Products Corporation
960 Almon Road
Covington, GA 30014
770-788-0136 Office
770-788-0361 Fax
mlacy@vantageproducts.com


And lets look at the numbers now.  Lacy states there are about 50,000 of the burial vaults at this location (at the time of the writing of the letter).  If you look at a picture of a stack of vaults, there are approximately 20 in each stack.  If you divide 50,000 by 20, that means there are about 2,500 stacks of 20 each.

If you wish to believe the number of 500,000, dividing that by 20 you get 25,000 stacks of 20.  There is no way there are 25,000 stacks at the Georgia location.  2,500, yes.

And this from Polyguard..

Polyguard and Co.
Afton, WY 83110
1-800-654-1067

To Whom this May Concern:

As you all know, death is one of those issues that we all fear yet we all will go through it at some time in our life and we have most all experienced a loved one passing away.  In fact there is as average of 2.5 million deaths occurring each year.  Some are cremated and some are buried.  Most burials require an outside burial container to go around the casket to keep the ground from settling and the aesthetics of the cemetery beautiful with the least amount of maintenance needed.  Until about 30 years or so ago, the only outside burial containers available were concrete or wooden boxes.  Because of modern technology, there are now other alternatives to concrete such as fiberglass or polymers (plastic).

I am not sure how Polyguard became associated with the burial vaults that are stored in Georgia.  Those vaults are manufactured by our competitors in Georgia.  However, the manufacturers own the property they are stored on and there is no big secret surrounding the vaults.  Because of the manufacturing costs and the ability to manufacturers 2 parts probably ever 2-5 minutes, once the process begins, to be cost effective you manufacture until your raw products are gone.  This creates inventory that can be rotated and used as needed.

In the funeral service industry, there is a program called "pre-need" which allows families to go to a funeral home or cemetery and pre-pay for their funeral merchandise or services.  I would guess that most of these vaults have been pre-sold and they are meeting the requirement of the storage program set forth by the manufacturing company and the Federal Trade Commission who governs funeral service.  Because we do not own the vaults and are not the manufacture of the vaults, I cannot tell you those numbers for sure.

Many of you keep referencing a patent for a cremation container.  This product never even made it to the market as far as I know.  If it did, it is not the same product that is being stored at the manufacturers storage facility in Georgia.  DO NOT CONFUSE THE TWO ITEMS!!!

If this information does not help ease your mind, you are welcome to call us.

Debbie Sainz
Polyguard & Co., LLC.

So I hope this is sufficient evidence to debunk the FEMA coffins in Ga. I say yes it is. you can decide for yourself.

[Rebelitarian]

 

The thing is they may have the coffins but without adequate mercs to do the dirty work of enforcement they'll be useless.

[tsurfer2000h]

The thing is they may have the coffins but without adequate mercs to do the dirty work of enforcement they'll be useless.

They might have mercs don't know. As for coffins they do not have any in ga that I do know.