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« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2008, 06:42:29 PM »

all of this is bullshit. we shouldnt deal with this act

Quite right, this is the mother-load of all bull, but we do not have the option of not dealing with it, for it will be forced down our throats irregardless of our stance on this issue. I personally believe it is better to go down swinging (metaphorically speaking) and making my point be known as opposed to becoming a voiceless sheep, besides one never knows what may be, unless one tries.
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« Reply #41 on: October 30, 2008, 07:09:16 PM »

Quite right, this is the mother-load of all bull, but we do not have the option of not dealing with it, for it will be forced down our throats irregardless of our stance on this issue. I personally believe it is better to go down swinging (metaphorically speaking) and making my point be known as opposed to becoming a voiceless sheep, besides one never knows what may be, unless one tries.

I hate to admit it, but direwolf's right. They're gonna do this, whether we like it or not. Just like they're gonna keep putting crap in our food, air, water, and "diet injections" to keep us stupid. Sad
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« Reply #42 on: November 05, 2008, 11:18:08 AM »

My main problem is it's lack of a defining boundary between violence and force, and basically it is a bill against thought crime because they define "force" as basically using your intellect to bring forward a logical argument against a policy or policies against the state. It's horsesh*t.
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Don't bother with trying to define the "boundary between violence and force"
because the government, the "homeland security" secret police and
the kangaroo judicial mafia will do it for you and they won't be asking
you for your input into the definition.

Just read the wording they use to write these police state laws and
see for yourself what the intent of the legislation is:

You go on the net or make a speech someplace and say for example:
"the US should be forced out out of Iraq" or something like "the gov.
lied to the public about 911 and should be forced to reveal the truth."
& that is what crosses their "defining boundary"
as "violent radicalism" precisely of the "disenfranchisement" criteria
I pointed out in my original post.

So worrying about what kind of dissident speech will be targeted is
a mute point and irrelevant because ALL dissident speech & writings
are criminalized under these proposed laws!

 
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« Reply #43 on: November 05, 2008, 08:02:24 PM »

They define violence and force as any means used to create change, or challenge in any form whatsoever the official party lines definition of "whatever they say is, is", it is a fluid and ever changing term that will continue to mutate to advance whatever outcome they desire. Note: it wont be favorable for you or I.
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« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2008, 10:05:03 AM »


Referring to 2 posts from member using nick "X9ballX":
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>>>"all of this is bullshit. we shouldnt deal with this act"

>>>"complete crock of shit"
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Does this mean "The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act"
is not for real & we should not take it seriously OR that it should be disregarded and
it will go away by itself without anyone addressing it OR does it refer to opinions
expressed by members in the forum on this subject?

Now obviously all those choosing to be citizens with a voice in a free nation and NOT
slaves with no voice in a hell hole pig state shall be forced to address this issue one
way or another.

Now for starters, the first thing the people do is just like I already explained in previous
posts was successful in the struggle to smash the clipper chip (which was another insidious
pig-state initiative during the clinton regime): Sending a clear & unmistakable message to
the ringknockers in power "your rotten pig law just wont work, it wont fly, you can't back
it up and if you choose to use pig terror against the people to have your way with us then
the time has come for us all to take it to the next level!"

Now I'm not here to write a book on this but you know what the next level is.

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« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2008, 02:09:16 PM »

My main problem is it's lack of a defining boundary between violence and force, and basically it is a bill against thought crime because they define "force" as basically using your intellect to bring forward a logical argument against a policy or policies against the state. It's horsesh*t.

You speak the truth friend.
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« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2008, 02:22:02 PM »

yeah she onle of the few people i trust to the point were it would surprise me if she turned her back on us

thanks, 9ball. Cool
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