Holy Shit! Chris Matthews accidently exposes the NWO birth certificate agenda!!!

[lavosslayer]

Here is my article on this topic

GLOBAL ELITIST AGENDA EXPOSED ON MSNBC
By: Chris Paine

Sources:
Hardball with Chris Matthews
Newscientist.com
obamacitizenshipdebate.org featuring Dr. Orly Taitz
Infragard.net
peaceaware.com
gatewaypundit.blogspot.com
washingtonexaminer.com
progressive.org
time.com

   Conspiracy theorists, lunatics, crazies, wackos and many other derogatory names have been used to describe the “Truth Movement” and any other group or individual that vies for government transparency by the mainstream media and the global elite. However, never have they come right out and listed the major concepts that would make those classified as such things a target for the global elite, like what was said on Chris Matthew's MSNBC program “Hardball” last night. According to Ken Vogel, a journalist from Politico speaking to Matthews, anyone that believes Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen of the USA or any of the following ideas should be considered to have “psychological problems” and to be “watched out for”. They are:

   People who believe that the Bilderberg Group impacts international policies

   People who question the Federal Reserve's intentions

   People who wonder why the government consistently attempts to circumvent the 2nd Amendment

   People who believe that what happened on 9/11 is different than what the government has told us

   People who are concerned that various incentives within controversial legislation promotes high levels of illegal immigration

   People who voted for Ron Paul

   Basically, he is saying that anyone who questions what the government has been doing within the last century should be monitored. Mr. Vogel admitted that these individuals believing the aforementioned concepts “can be something of a force in politics” due to their shear number, particularly hailing from the “Internet crowd”. These statements clearly confirm their fear that we and most importantly, the truth, are becoming a major threat to their real agenda and should be dealt with or cast aside before we can have an effect on their plans coming to fruition.

   To set the record straight, lets first address the Birth Certificate issue which was the main topic of discussion during the show. To be perfectly clear, this issue has absolutely nothing to do with a racial motivation of any kind as it has been demonized to have been by many in mainstream media and the government. Dr. Alan Keyes, a Black American and the former Assistant Secretary of State for International Organization Affairs, was one of the first to jump on this bandwagon suing Barack Obama over his eligibility to be a legal President in late 2008. Secondly, MSNBCs parent company, General Electric (GE) isn't exactly the most reputable of companies, supporting both the Iraq war in order to generate profits from its vast weapons system development capabilities and also supporting the lackluster bailout stimulus bill passed in fall of 2008. Important to note that General Electric received over $10 Billion in controversial TARP funds (the only non-bank to receive such amounts). In addition, General Electric stands to make hundreds of billions of dollars with the proposed government health care legislation. If these claims against us aren't to be taken as threats, then they have a lot of explaining to do, since all of  the evidence points to GE being an extremely corrupt organization tied into the global elite on multiple fronts.

   Now let's focus on what the global elite do when they are afraid, in this instance of the truth seeking, freedom loving, American citizen. The US Army has been creating weapon systems such as the Active Denial System which “uses microwaves to heat the surface of the skin, creating a painful sensation without burning that strongly motivates the target to flee” to be used on protesters as opposed to the usual tear gas method. To put things even more in perspective, a Consequence Management Response Force (CCMRF) (currently the 3rd Infantry Division's 1st Brigade Combat Team), is being created that might eventually comprise upwards of 80,000 troops, and is being trained and readied to deal with what could be widespread civil disorder resulting from an "unforeseen economic collapse" or "loss of a functional political and legal order." The US Military also has UAVs and other command and control options in their arsenal that can easily be used for what they refer to as “Effects Based Operations” which is military/government speak for “False Flag Attacks” (IE 9/11, Madrid trains, 7/7/05). These attacks can be staged just like those mentioned, in order to frame the truth believing citizens opposing the NWO as terrorists, resulting in a government executed, martial law response.  

   The FBI has already organized a task force of their own that have been given the green light to shoot anyone who is deemed a threat by the FBI during an emergency situation called Infragard. Infragard is basically a surveillance network of individuals that work in the private corporate sector who receive and transmit information with the FBI. According to members of Infragard, they receive frequent training through emergency preparedness exercises and claim that part of their training consists of how to use lethal force to protect their business infrastructure. Although the FBI publicly denies these claims, the fact that multiple members can recall this training raises the legitimacy of the FBI's position.
   
   All of these things point towards an ever increasing fear on the part of the global elite and their one world government agenda. It seems that even certain members of the U.S. Congress are picking up on the ominous undertones emanating from the corrupt Obama administration and the globalist agenda and are stepping up to represent the rightful citizens of the USA. They need all of us to continue our support and encouragement and a continued vocalization of the truth to others in order to thwart this evil and bring freedom and justice back to this country, and ultimately the rest of the world. No matter what anyone tells you, integrity in Washington is not completely dead proving that freedom and justice will prevail!

[Dig]

^ Awesome article!

Keep writing man, you are gonna help wake up millions!

[luckee1]

^ Awesome article!

Keep writing man, you are gonna help wake up millions!

Did you see the one he did on the Unisys system video?  Stellar

[Dig]

Well looks like even though I submitted my article last night I still got scooped on it by Paul Joseph Watson. However my other story about IBM and UNISYS did get published on prisonplanet so not all is lost!

Holy f-ing shit dude!

That IBM/Unysis article is the f-ing BOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I added it to this thread and stickied it: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=109649.0

EVERYONE PLEASE READ THAT ARTICLE TO UNDERSAND AI'S EXPOSURE OF THE NEXT FALSE FLAG!

[Dig]

Did you see the one he did on the Unisys system video?  Stellar

I just saw it, unfrickingbelievable!

I am thilled they published it! Please everyone promote that article, it is a bombshell!

WE NEED TO MAKE "SUPPLY CHAIN EUGENICS" A HOUSEHOLD TERM!!!!!!

[Protean]

What are you talking about? Everything is exposed but people are sick of blaming one then the other.  Bush had a gay prostitute living in the white house and then asking him questions at press conferences. He and Victor Ashe were very close. He exterminated over 1 million innocent women and children. He got us into 2.5 illegal wars. He dumped the 800 year old Magna Carta...

BUT NONE OF THIOSE THINGS RALLIED THE COUNTRY AGAINST HIM.

The $24 Trillion by the federal reserve does.

Exactly. Thank you for making my point. And all the things you listed in your previous post between us, all good causes, but too many of them. That's why the Patriots are running around fragmented, not unified--too many causes for fight for.

Choose one. Make it simple: K.I.S.S., Like Ghandi and his salt.

Obama's sealed records is not a distraction, or a divider, it is an issue of Constitutional and moral importance.
One issue: his transparency, full disclosure.

This issue is that HOT. That's why Barky had to legislate his birth into a bill to try and dis-spell this issue as well as an executive order excusing him from showing his Long Form Birth Cert.

HRES 593 IH
111th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. RES. 593
Recognizing and celebrating the 50th Anniversary of the entry of Hawaii into the Union as the 50th State.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
June 26, 2009
Mr. ABERCROMBIE (for himself and Ms. HIRONO) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform

RESOLUTION

Recognizing and celebrating the 50th Anniversary of the entry of Hawaii into the Union as the 50th State.
Whereas August 21, 2009, marks the 50th Anniversary of President Dwight D. Eisenhower's signing of Proclamation 3309, which admitted Hawaii into the Union in compliance with the Hawaii Admission Act, enacted by the United States Congress on March 18, 1959;
Whereas Hawaii is `a place like no other, with a people like no other' and bridges the mainland United States to the Asia-Pacific region;
Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii;


Documentation:
http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.RES.593:

Expose the fraud in the W.H. and start the dominoes tumbling. The movement is having an effect--the blogs are on fire with this issue and the MSM is scrambling to counter-attack.

[Dig]

Exactly. Thank you for making my point. And all the things you listed in your previous post between us, all good causes, but too many of them. That's why the Patriots are running around fragmented, not unified--too many causes for fight for.

Choose one. Make it simple: K.I.S.S., Like Ghandi and his salt.

Obama's sealed records is not a distraction, or a divider, it is an issue of Constitutional and moral importance.
One issue: his transparency, full disclosure.

This issue is that HOT. That's why Barky had to legislate his birth into a bill to try and dis-spell this issue as well as an executive order excusing him from showing his Long Form Birth Cert.

HRES 593 IH
111th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. RES. 593
Recognizing and celebrating the 50th Anniversary of the entry of Hawaii into the Union as the 50th State.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
June 26, 2009
Mr. ABERCROMBIE (for himself and Ms. HIRONO) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform

RESOLUTION

Recognizing and celebrating the 50th Anniversary of the entry of Hawaii into the Union as the 50th State.
Whereas August 21, 2009, marks the 50th Anniversary of President Dwight D. Eisenhower's signing of Proclamation 3309, which admitted Hawaii into the Union in compliance with the Hawaii Admission Act, enacted by the United States Congress on March 18, 1959;
Whereas Hawaii is `a place like no other, with a people like no other' and bridges the mainland United States to the Asia-Pacific region;
Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii;


Documentation:
http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.RES.593:

Expose the fraud in the W.H. and start the dominoes tumbling. The movement is having an effect--the blogs are on fire with this issue and the MSM is scrambling to counter-attack.

Dude, this ain't Ghandi and his salt.

Ghandi and his salt would be comparable to the American people only consuming 100% american made clothing (or pick another industry).  It was a direct economic attack through the heart of occupiers.

This is an issue that is meant to divide the people.  Go ahead and make this the most important issue of your life, I ain't and it never actually addresses the core problems in the US which is the Federal Reserve and the control by global elites.

Obama always has been and always will be a puppet. I do think this is a free speech issue, and that also is a universal issue.

[aLLyOuRbAsE]

personally, this whole "birth certificate" thing with obama is a giant waste of time, in my opinion, even if it were proved that infact obama was not born in the US, such would be the giant proverbial yawn from the public that either nothing would happen or the rules would be slightly changed, neither of which would even so much as dent the new world order.

it is easy to judge an issue's importance by how much media coverage the MSM will allow, the important issues are seldom talked about, the useless divisive non-issues are given all the time in the world, now ask yourself, where does this birth certificate thing fall?

[Protean]

Dude, this ain't Ghandi and his salt.

Ghandi and his salt would be comparable to the American people only consuming 100% american made clothing (or pick another industry).  It was a direct economic attack through the heart of occupiers.

This is an issue that is meant to divide the people.  Go ahead and make this the most important issue of your life, I ain't and it never actually addresses the core problems in the US which is the Federal Reserve and the control by global elites.

Obama always has been and always will be a puppet. I do think this is a free speech issue, and that also is a universal issue.

Sane, you still have not presented a strategy, just a list of the usual suspects.

The issue, Obama's full disclosure of his sealed and disappeared records, addresses the "core problems in the US which is the Federal Reserve and the control by global elites" by having an effect on them. Expose the usurper and you shoot ALL their plans in the foot.
Every bill, law, etc. that Barky has signed will become invalid. This issue will have a direct economic attack through the heart of occupiers by exposing their tool for legislative takeover, Barky.

 

[Dig]

Sane, you still have not presented a strategy, just a list of the usual suspects.

The issue, Obama's full disclosure of his sealed and disappeared records, addresses the "core problems in the US which is the Federal Reserve and the control by global elites" by having an effect on them. Expose the usurper and you shoot ALL their plans in the foot.
Every bill, law, etc. that Barky has signed will become invalid. This issue will have a direct economic attack through the heart of occupiers by exposing their tool for legislative takeover, Barky.

Presented my "strategy"?

I do not have any "strategy".  You have been here long enough to know that. I am like a jackhammer that hammers all walls in the matrix whenever I see them.  If you want to instead devote unnecessary resources towards one wall (which is a divisive rather than uniting one), go right ahead. My belief is that it will alienate many people. I also believe that stressing the obvious violation of free speech will unite many people.  Ratigan who still kisses Obama butt even exposed the obvious insanity of the legislature in trying to pass a law to resolve this rather than just allowing things to be exposed naturally.  That is the issue, free speech and the profiling of anyone talking about it (which is of course, free speech).

[menace]

Leo  Donofrio on the latest

Hawaii Health Department’s Fukino Now Constitutional Lawyer?

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/07/28/hawaii-health-departments-fukino-now-constitutional-lawyer/

[Protean]

Presented my "strategy"?

I do not have any "strategy".  You have been here long enough to know that. I am like a jackhammer that hammers all walls in the matrix whenever I see them.  If you want to instead devote unnecessary resources towards one wall (which is a divisive rather than uniting one), go right ahead. My belief is that it will alienate many people. I also believe that stressing the obvious violation of free speech will unite many people.  Ratigan who still kisses Obama butt even exposed the obvious insanity of the legislature in trying to pass a law to resolve this rather than just allowing things to be exposed naturally.  That is the issue, free speech and the profiling of anyone talking about it (which is of course, free speech).

Thank you for admitting not having a strategy. This has been my point all along. Alex Jones does not have a strategy for his listeners either. Just buy and watch his videos, which have no strategy, good information--but what do you do with it? Most people hang out here, Prison Planet Forum, kind of like a free speech zone, away from those we are protesting against, in our own private Idaho.

Alienate people? You are worried about that? Funny. You don't think 911, being an inside job, alienated a
few people? Did that stop you from trying to get the word out? Of course not.

Let's say you are in fight with a much larger opponent (NWO) and there is no way you are as strong or as powerful or as fast as them.
What do you do? You may only get one shot in. The jack hammer approach is unfocused and will not be effective, it would be like shouting at this larger opponent all the goods you have on them--but not one of these will stop this opponent (the MSM will quell all your shouts.)

My advice in this fight: kick him in the nuts.

Right now, Barky's true identity and records are the nuts of the the NWO.

Sane, there is no reason why you can't frame your issue of Free Speech as an extension for free access to ALL of Barky's records.
Let's find out who he really is.

[Dig]

Thank you for admitting not having a strategy. This has been my point all along. Alex Jones does not have a strategy for his listeners either. Just buy and watch his videos, which have no strategy, good information--but what do you do with it? Most people hang out here, Prison Planet Forum, kind of like a free speech zone, away from those we are protesting against, in our own private Idaho.

Alienate people? You are worried about that? Funny. You don't think 911, being an inside job, alienated a
few people? Did that stop you from trying to get the word out? Of course not.

Let's say you are in fight with a much larger opponent (NWO) and there is no way you are as strong or as powerful or as fast as them.
What do you do? You may only get one shot in. The jack hammer approach is unfocused and will not be effective, it would be like shouting at this larger opponent all the goods you have on them--but not one of these will stop this opponent (the MSM will quell all your shouts.)

My advice in this fight: kick him in the nuts.

Right now, Barky's true identity and records are the nuts of the the NWO.

Sane, there is no reason why you can't frame your issue of Free Speech as an extension for free access to ALL of Barky's records.
Let's find out who he really is.

Uh, dude... this is your "strategy"?

kick him in the nuts? [or the NWO in the nuts because Obama's eligibility issue is the nuts of the NWO-even weirder-if that is their nuts, what is their heart?]

what does my lack of strategy have to do with AJ?

I rather have no strategy than be led by the NWO into an obvious maze.  But instead of being such a total pompous asshat, why not just continue to expose the truth.  Or if you feel that passionate about it then start a website to expose this isse.  Why are you just attacking people because they cannot match your undeniable superiority in toppling dictatorial powers? I mean are you for real?  AJ does not have a "strategy" to match your wilding in the streets yelling "eligibility, eligibility"? This is some kind of a joke, right?  I mean even I was locked and loaded with McCain's eligibility because he even admitted it.  But I never lost track of the overall crimes by the banksters and their goals of total enslavement. I also explained that this is totally possible because they have been circumventing the constitution for decades and that it will continue.  Well this is just one more piece of evidence that the CFR does not give a shit about the constitution.  Nothing more and nothing less.  This is part of an overall plan to end US sovereignty and it will not be the last violation of the constitution that they engage in. But by exposing all of the violations, especially the ones that transverse party lines, people can see an overall picture of the prison that we are fuinding with our unborn childrens labor earnings.

[Protean]

Uh, dude... this is your "strategy"?

kick him in the nuts? [or the NWO in the nuts because Obama's eligibility issue is the nuts of the NWO-even weirder-if that is their nuts, what is their heart?]

what does my lack of strategy have to do with AJ?

I rather have no strategy than be led by the NWO into an obvious maze.  But instead of being such a total pompous asshat, why not just continue to expose the truth.  Or if you feel that passionate about it then start a website to expose this isse.  Why are you just attacking people because they cannot match your undeniable superiority in toppling dictatorial powers? I mean are you for real?  AJ does not have a "strategy" to match your wilding in the streets yelling "eligibility, eligibility"? This is some kind of a joke, right?  I mean even I was locked and loaded with McCain's eligibility because he even admitted it.  But I never lost track of the overall crimes by the banksters and their goals of total enslavement. I also explained that this is totally possible because they have been circumventing the constitution for decades and that it will continue.  Well this is just one more piece of evidence that the CFR does not give a shit about the constitution.  Nothing more and nothing less.  This is part of an overall plan to end US sovereignty and it will not be the last violation of the constitution that they engage in. But by exposing all of the violations, especially the ones that transverse party lines, people can see an overall picture of the prison that we are fuinding with our unborn childrens labor earnings.

Well a nerve has been hit and the insults fly. I haven't had to resort to that yet, but while were on the subject, RE: instead of being such a total pompous asshat--I wouldn't dare try an compete with you in that dept.
 

Re: why not just continue to expose the truth - yes, and that is what this is: exposing the Truth, but it's specific, instead of in general, your approach.

Re: AJ does not have a "strategy" to match your wilding in the streets yelling "eligibility, eligibility"? This is some kind of a joke, right?
No, it is not a joke at all.  And I am not wilding in the streets yelling "eligibility, eligibility." I am reaching out to people in the alternative media and leaders to consider the importance of this issue: full disclosure of all of Obama's records.

I disagree that it is: Nothing more and nothing less. This issue is too hot to handle for the current admin because it is the cornerstone of the plan a foot for their bankster takeover--without Barky in place going along with the plan and selling it--they will be seriously hampered.

You know Sane, this reminds me of the argument we had about Naomi Klein, I was saying she was asleep on Obama, you said to give her a pass. She is now waking up to Obama--oh, there I go again, being a total pompous asshat--you're turn.

[Dig]

Well a nerve has been hit and the insults fly. I haven't had to resort to that yet, but while were on the subject, RE: instead of being such a total pompous asshat--I wouldn't dare try an compete with you in that dept.
 

Re: why not just continue to expose the truth - yes, and that is what this is: exposing the Truth, but it's specific, instead of in general, your approach.

Re: AJ does not have a "strategy" to match your wilding in the streets yelling "eligibility, eligibility"? This is some kind of a joke, right?
No, it is not a joke at all.  And I am not wilding in the streets yelling "eligibility, eligibility." I am reaching out to people in the alternative media and leaders to consider the importance of this issue: full disclosure of all of Obama's records.

I disagree that it is: Nothing more and nothing less. This issue is too hot to handle for the current admin because it is the cornerstone of the plan a foot for their bankster takeover--without Barky in place going along with the plan and selling it--they will be seriously hampered.

You know Sane, this reminds me of the argument we had about Naomi Klein, I was saying she was asleep on Obama, you said to give her a pass. She is now waking up to Obama--oh, there I go again, being a total pompous asshat--you're turn.

That is not fair, she came around

touche, point taken

[Protean]

That is not fair, she came around

touche, point taken

Yes, she did. 

And--Thanks.
 

[Dig]

Yes, she did. 

And--Thanks.
 

But, believe me there is a lot going on with this one.  I mean the entire British Empire (MSNBC) has dedicated over 4 full fricking hours of airtime conditioning people to think that the "birther issue" is not to be talked about.

It is truly amazing how much time they are dedicating on this.  I really hope that some videos of all the crap gets published.

[Dig]

On Television and Radio, Talk of Obama’s Citizenship
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/24/on-television-and-radio-talk-of-obamas-citizenship/?hp
By Brian Stelter July 24, 2009, 5:22 pm

The conspiracy theorists who have claimed for more than a year that President Obama is not a United States citizen have found receptive ears among some mainstream media figures in recent weeks.

Despite ample evidence to the contrary, the country’s most popular talk radio host, Rush Limbaugh, told his listeners Tuesday that Mr. Obama “has yet to have to prove that he’s a citizen.” Lou Dobbs of CNN said that Mr. Obama should do more to dispel the claims. Larry King, also of CNN, asked guests about it, and other media types, including the MSNBC hosts Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow, merrily mocked the controversy. NBC News even did a segment on the subject.

Cable news is often stretched for news in the summertime, but the birth certificate case has been fueled by the combustible combination of luck, compelling video, an outlandish topic, and savvy activists.

Advocates of the issue, who are sometimes called birthers, have succeeded in calling attention to themselves through frequent calls to talk radio shows, e-mail messages to news organizations and a videotaped question at a Congressional town hall. The Associated Press said that Mr. Obama’s citizenship status had been one of the most popular topics for the wire service’s “Ask AP” column.

Mr. Dobbs, who also hosts a daily radio show, said on CNN that he is “getting calls now. Often.”

The conspiracy theory that Mr. Obama was born in Kenya, his father’s home, first took root among some elements of the right wing last year. In response, the Obama campaign scanned the candidate’s “certification of live birth” from Hawaii’s department of health and published it on the Internet. It confirms that Mr. Obama was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961. Numerous third parties have examined the birth certificate and concluded, as the Annenberg Center’s nonpartisan FactCheck.org Web site did last year, that it “meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship.”

In an e-mail message to Mr. Dobbs’ producers on Thursday, Jon Klein, the president of CNN/U.S., wrote that “it seems this story is dead — because anyone who still is not convinced doesn’t really have a legitimate beef.”

In an interview Friday, Mr. Klein said the e-mail message should not be interpreted as an order to stop debating the subject. He defended Mr. Dobbs’ broadcast, saying that “what we do here all the time is dig into the truth about all kinds of controversial issues.”

“This smear was thoroughly debunked during the election,” said Eric Burns, the president of Media Matters for America, a liberal media monitoring organization.

Remarkably, there is even a reference to Mr. Obama’s birth in the “Births, Marriages, Deaths” column of The Honolulu Advertiser newspaper on Aug. 13, 1961. Still, the claims about Mr. Obama’s citizenship persist among a small but vocal group, essentially portraying Mr. Obama as a foreigner who has managed to conceal his origins for nearly five decades.

“It’s racist,” said Phil Griffin, the president of MSNBC. “It’s racist. Just call it for what it is.”

Mr. Griffin said the cable news coverage was set off by two back-to-back events: the introduction of a bill that would require presidential candidates to provide a copy of their original birth certificate (it has nine co-sponsors in the House and one in the Senate) and the video of a town hall held by a Republican Congressman that turned into a hearing on Mr. Obama’s citizenship.

At the town hall in late June, the Congressman, Mike Castle of Delaware, was angrily questioned by a woman who said of Obama, “he is not an American citizen, he is a citizen of Kenya.” Members of the crowd applauded approvingly, and Mr. Castle was heckled when he said Mr. Obama was indeed a U.S. citizen. Video of the confrontation was uploaded to YouTube on July 10. It took more than a week for the incident to receive widespread attention.

Mr. Griffin said the claims are legitimate to cover “in that there’s a segment of our population that believes this and keeps bringing it up.”

A number of MSNBC shows have covered the birthers’ claims in recent days, mostly in mocking tones. On “Hardball” Thursday evening, the radio talk show host G. Gordon Liddy asserted that Mr. Obama may be an “illegal alien,” leading the host Chris Matthews to hand Mr. Liddy a photocopy of the birth certificate.

The subject has percolated on the Internet and on right-wing radio talk shows for months. The founder of WorldNetDaily, a conservative Web site, has taken to buying billboards that ask “Where’s the birth certificate?”

But from more mainstream outlets, “the coverage has been minuscule” until this month, said Philip J. Berg, a lawyer who has challenged Mr. Obama’s citizenship in a number of lawsuits, unsuccessfully to date. Since the town hall meeting, “there’s been a vast uptick.”

He added: “If I could file a lawsuit against the national media, including The New York Times, I would do that, because I think you’ve all done an injustice by not covering Obama.”

Since mid-July Mr. Dobbs has discussed it repeatedly on his radio show and on TV, leading Media Matters to accuse him of “legitimizing baseless conspiracy theories.” Last week CNN said it investigated the claims, and a guest host on Mr. Dobbs’ own show concluded that it “found no basis for the questions about the president’s birthplace.”

Mr. Dobbs has said he believes Mr. Obama is a citizen, but he brought up the controversy repeatedly this week, wondering in particular why Mr. Obama has not provided a copy of his birth certificate so that “all of this nonsense goes away.” He apparently answered his own question Thursday evening, telling viewers that “Hawaii says it can’t release a paper copy of the president’s original birth certificate because they say the state government discarded the original document when the health department records went electronic some eight years ago.”

The Fox News Channel, with its deep bench of conservative hosts, has not addressed the controversy this week. But the message boards on its conservative forum The Fox Nation have thousands of comments about the birth certificate issue, including some that call Mr. Obama “the Kenyan candidate.”
A lot of journalists “live with this issue; we get e-mails, we get asked about it,” Brian Williams, the anchor of the “NBC Nightly News,” said on Wednesday’s broadcast.

He showed an excerpt from the YouTube video in a segment about the birthers that he said were “spreading lies” about Mr. Obama.

“So many conspiracy theories, so little time,” he concluded.

[Dig]

Gee do you think CNN/Dobbs should be controlled by MSNBC pundits?

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CNN tops MSNBC in July
http://www.observer.com/2009/media/cnn-tops-msnbc-july
By Felix Gillette July 28, 2009 | 5:20 p.m

In July, thanks in large part to the sudden passing of Michael Jackson, CNN reclaimed second place from MSNBC in weeknight prime time among cable news networks.

According to this afternoon's press release, CNN beat MSNBC in weekly prime time in both total viewers (1.28 million vs. 868,000) and in the 25-54 demographic (430,000 vs. 274,000).

Ditto on dayside, where CNN topped MSNBC again in both total viewers (724,000 to 397,000) and in the 25-54 demo (232,000 vs. 144,000).

The victory provides CNN with some good news on a day when seemingly every liberal media watchdog group in the land (MoveON.org, America's Voice, Media Matters, The Southern Poverty Law Center) is busy lobbing complaints at the cable news network concerning Lou Dobbs' hospitality to "birthers."

And, at the same time, the defeat might make MSNBC executives rethink their decision to spend so much time covering Mr. Jackson's death. From what we hear, an internal contigent at MSNBC was pushing to drop the MJ coverage and take the cable news high road (such as it is) by focusing on politics and news while their competitors did round-the-clock MJ coverage.

In the end, MSNBC stuck with MJ and lost out to CNN anyways.

[Dig]

Yes, she did.  

And--Thanks.
 

You know what Protean, you are total farging icehole bastage, because now you got me all locked and loaded on this fricking birth certficate crapola.  I mean WTF? They have not just lied about one thing with this, they lied about everything.  I mean they are just straight up lying, it is not even misrepresentation, exaggeration, miscommunication, swaying, manipulation...it is straight up bona fide lying.  I still thing Ghandi's salt thing is not a good analogy, but Clinton's Vince Foster and even better, Bush's Air Corp/AWOL records.

But like the AWOL records, we need to walk a tight line with this stuff.  They threw Dan Rather to the wolves then, I think this one is different, because there are no Dan Rathers left.  There is just us and they cannot crucify all of us like they did to Dan Rather.

[luckee1]

You know what Protean, you are total farging icehole bastage, because now you got me all locked and loaded on this fricking birth certficate crapola.  I mean WTF? They have not just lied about one thing with this, they lied about everything.  I mean they are just straight up lying, it is not even misrepresentation, exaggeration, miscommunication, swaying, manipulation...it is straight up bona fide lying.  I still thing Ghandi's salt thing is not a good analogy, but Clinton's Vince Foster and even better, Bush's Air Corp/AWOL records.

But like the AWOL records, we need to walk a tight line with this stuff.  They threw Dan Rather to the wolves then, I think this one is different, because there are no Dan Rathers left.  There is just us and they cannot crucify all of us like they did to Dan Rather.

check out the latest WND      You are in it now. bro!

[luckee1]

Here check this out.  The numbers on the certificate of live birth is not jiving with the existing long forms.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105347

[Dig]

Here check this out.  The numbers on the certificate of live birth is not jiving with the existing long forms.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105347

yeah I read the whole thing. I am glad someone is doing all the research on this. It is incredible tracking the lies.

[hardrain77]

One of the only kinks in the birth case is the supposed birth announcement in the Hawaii paper.

http://88.80.13.160.nyud.net/leak/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser.pdf

If someone found this entire issue and proved it was in it, it really hurts the case I think.

[Protean]

You know what Protean, you are total farging icehole bastage, because now you got me all locked and loaded on this fricking birth certficate crapola.  I mean WTF? They have not just lied about one thing with this, they lied about everything.  I mean they are just straight up lying, it is not even misrepresentation, exaggeration, miscommunication, swaying, manipulation...it is straight up bona fide lying.  I still thing Ghandi's salt thing is not a good analogy, but Clinton's Vince Foster and even better, Bush's Air Corp/AWOL records.

But like the AWOL records, we need to walk a tight line with this stuff.  They threw Dan Rather to the wolves then, I think this one is different, because there are no Dan Rathers left.  There is just us and they cannot crucify all of us like they did to Dan Rather.

Well, if I'm not being an total pompous asshat being a farging icehole bastage is a nice change.

Since you insist on bringing up THE BIRTHER issue--here are my thoughts lately:

It dawned on me this morning that the purported Long Form Birth Cert of Obama's "they" say they have in a Hawaii vault may be a forgery done by the best the CIA (intel community) has. Never-the-less it is still a forgery and "they" wouldn't want it to see the light of day. This is why they are showing that example Long Form B.C.
Trust us--we have Obama's long form birth certificate, we just won't show it to you--so here's someone else's, this is exactly what they look like, just like Obama's,  trust us....


If a document expert evaluated it and found it forged--bombshell and criminal prosecution could follow.

And, if the Long Form is revealed, it also reveals Doctors who delivered baby Barky--are they still alive? They can be contacted for verification of their signatures and the hospital itself---if it ain't real--"they" are in a world of troubles.

*On the other hand, maybe it is the real deal, he was born as he said in Hawaii and "they" are keeping it sealed cause---they're shy.*

Some, in the alternative media, are saying this is a distraction issue. Maybe, but if the MSM wants to distract the sheeple all they have to do is push a grisly murder or another Michael Jackson story angle to "their" front page.

The MSM is in spin overdrive about the Birthers is reminiscent of their attempts to cover-up 911 being an inside job-- "You will not believe in this conspiracy theory--if you do you are crazy."

Again, it is full disclosure of Barky's sealed and disappeared records that needs to happen, the Long Form B.C. is just one of those. The others may reveal far more interesting details about who Barky really is and the Alice in Wonderland story of his creation.

 

[Protean]

Jack Blood has Jerome Corsi on this hour, they may just touch on this Birther issue: Yes they are!

http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/listen_live.html