Hot:CNN Obama No Proof of U.S. Citizenship

[Monkeypox]

Right, so if my child was born in another country and my husband was not American, does my being an American citizen not give my child citizenship?

Are you deliberately being dense?  We are not talking about American Citizenship.  We are talking about whether or not nObama is a NATURAL BORN American Citizen - which is a requirement for the Presidency.

[Oh Canada]

Let's just say Obama does not have a birth certificate because he was not born in the United States. Are we supposed to believe the President of the United States could not “come up” with a birth certificate?

Barrack Obama has been hand picked to sell the New World Order, yet we are supposed to believe that the elites some how forgot to cover this up?

Why is he just not showing it to quite all the speculations then if he has it?
Why all the media coverage?

The government controlled media is going to make this into a big circus show and it will be related and compared to other conspiracies. Then Obama will present his (real or not real) birth certificate which will gain Obama’s popularity and trust. Not only will it kill this "conspiracy" it will also discredit others.

Is this a mass psychological plan to boost Obama's credibility and to discredit other "conspiracies" like 9/11?

Brilliant!! I'll bet David Rockefeller himself thought of it.  

[egypt]

Again, it is not about a valid birth certificate.  It is about his qualifications per the Constitution which lay out specific qualifications for the office of the president and other governmental offices.

He does not meet one specific qualification that is reserved for the Presidential Office, only.  This issue is about whether he was a Natural Born Citizen.

The only way to be a natural born citizen of the United States of America is to be born on American Soil.

Additionally.  There is evidence that he is not even a Citizen of America.  But, it only takes one relative swearing that a person is a "Citizen" to obtain the HI birth certificate.  So.  Even if he is a "Citizen" with a valid Hawaiian birth certificate, he still is not a: Natural Born Citizen.

The reason for this qualification is so that the leader of the Armed Forces of the United States does not hold allegiance to anywhere else -- only the United States of America.

I knew most of this from school.   Just what do they teach in school, these days?

Let's just say Obama does not have a birth certificate because he was not born in the United States. Are we supposed to believe the President of the United States could not “come up” with a birth certificate?

Barrack Obama has been hand picked to sell the New World Order, yet we are supposed to believe that the elites some how forgot to cover this up?

Why is he just not showing it to quite all the speculations then if he has it?
Why all the media coverage?

The government controlled media is going to make this into a big circus show and it will be related and compared to other conspiracies. Then Obama will present his (real or not real) birth certificate which will gain Obama’s popularity and trust. Not only will it kill this "conspiracy" it will also discredit others.

Is this a mass psychological plan to boost Obama's credibility and to discredit other "conspiracies" like 9/11?

Brilliant!! I'll bet David Rockefeller himself thought of it.  

[Oh Canada]

This issue is about whether he was a Natural Born Citizen.

Cool....but what I am saying is the puppet masters would have known if he was or was not a Natural Born Citizen. So why would they risk thier precious NWO by picking Obama without having thought it through.

To me it does not make sense that the elites would make such a big error

[InfoTruth]

I don't give a f**k about his birth certificate. You guys are wasting your time..

[egypt]

Well, they have been getting away with everything under the sun for quite some time.  But.  There are some things that they haven't counted on too -- some movies & people waking up.  They are definitely being pushed to fulfill their agenda...  I actually do believe they are "on the run."  It won't be easy, I am sure.  But, I really do believe we'll beat them.

I found this:

Qualifications for the Office of President  http://www.presidentsusa.net/qualifications.html
      
 
Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

Term limit amendment - US Constitution, Amendment XXII, Section 1 – ratified February 27, 1951

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.


Additionally for Natural Born Citizen:   http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

1. Anyone born inside the United States *
2. Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
3. Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
4. Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
5. Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
6. Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
7. Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
8. A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

[egypt]

I don't give a f**k about his birth certificate. You guys are wasting your time..

Please provide what you would see us do in better "time-spending"   

[InfoTruth]

Please provide what you would see us do in better "time-spending"   

Live your life. You guys aren't going to stop them so stop f**king dreaming.

[Dig]

So am I wrong in thinking that as a citizen herself, she automatically confers her citizenship to her children?

Also, the factcheck stuff - as I said before factcheck is dubious yes. I only referenced the article via factcheck because it was originally a Rocky Mountain Newspaper article explaining UK/Kenyan citizenship (because The Rocky Mountain Newspaper is gone, so no archives to dig through there).

"So am I wrong in thinking that as a citizen herself, she automatically confers her citizenship to her children?"

confering of citizenship <> natural born

natural born has to do with land, not blood

She could be Eleanor Roosevelt, Nancy Reagan, or Pocahantas, but if her child was born outside the US (even in a military base or an embassy), the child is not a natural born US citizen. The presidency is the exec branch for the United States. The person must be born in one of those stares to be pres. the reason is that the president must have a birth affiliation to the states he serves. I blieve that there i a legit question with DC or the Louisiana Purchae (in the case of Wallace). Bt other than that, this is an open and shut case.

[Dig]

Live your life. You guys aren't going to stop them so stop f**king dreaming.

said the jew heading for the showers

[Monkeypox]

I don't give a f**k about his birth certificate. You guys are wasting your time..

So you don't believe in the Constitution?

Maybe you're wasting your time here then.

 

[Monkeypox]

said the jew heading for the showers

QFT

[rosso]

Are you deliberately being dense?  We are not talking about American Citizenship.  We are talking about whether or not nObama is a NATURAL BORN American Citizen - which is a requirement for the Presidency.

I was asking a legitimate question for my own understanding, not to get condescending arrogance as an answer. Don't sweat it though, I found the answer and it is in fact true that a child born in another country to one American parent, is in fact also an American citizen.

Yes  you  are  wrong. The  rules  are  as  I  stated.

You would be wrong there also.

[egypt]

Looks like this may be the one where he doesn't qualify as natural born:

4. Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national

His father was never an American Citizen or US National, in any way.

[rosso]

I give!

[Dig]

Looks like this may be the one where he doesn't qualify as natural born:

4. Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national

His father was never an American Citizen or US National, in any way.

omfg!!

he could be the son of two natural born citizens and even if the only time his mom left the US was when she was teleported to the US embassy in Canada where he popped out of her uterous. Then they were both teleported back to the US... HE WOULD STILL NOT BE A NATURAL BORN US CITIZEN!

This has nothing to do with blood but has everything to do with land.

[luckee1]

I am sure paperwork is instrumental also 

[Dig]

I am sure paperwork is instrumental also 

is this shit for real? if i had to prove natural born i could probably get 50 fricking witnesses, pics, documents, all sorts of shit.

how are they continuing to deflct this without raising more suspicion?

this is like NASA purposefully erasing moon tapes

[luckee1]

I am unsure Sane if your posts are disbelief, or requests for clarification.

Either way the man has no business in the white house.  He is disqualified per our laws, in so many ways.  It is as if the NWO is thumbing it nose at us.

[egypt]

Well, I don't know exactly "what" they have.  I heard on CNN that the "birth certificate"  from Hawaii is not one, but instead a "certificate of live birth" which was clarified to not be a "birth certificate," but another document.

Then in reading the Constitutional requirements for President, it says this:

"No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States,..."

Now, I see where the "Citizen" question comes in.  Not even what type of Citizen, but whether he is a Citizen at all...

Being born in Kenya, if he only has the Hawaiian "certificate of live birth" and he has never gone through the rigamarole of becoming a US Citizen, along with 33 different social security #'s being used -- hmmmm....  

I believe I see the case, now.  I can't wait to hear it all, along with the Judge's decision.

[Optimus]

I don't give a f**k about his birth certificate. You guys are wasting your time..

That's must be why nObama can get away with holding the office of President without providing proof of being a natural born citizen, people just don't give a f**k!

Live your life. You guys aren't going to stop them so stop f**king dreaming.

Oh lookie! More defeatist rhetoric!

[egypt]

That's must be why nObama can get away with holding the office of President without providing proof of being a natural born citizen, people just don't give a f**k!

Oh lookie! More defeatist rhetoric!

yea, it seems people get in a bad mood or something.  Defeatest is the best word and why so many have just lain back for like 40 years and let them rip us off right & left like it is all ok!

The bailouts are not the only blatant ripping off that has been criminally accomplished by Congress.

Now they want Nazi Germany complete with death camps & propaganda.  No Way!  Where's that video of Yuri again?  The defector that told all about what was happening -- Then!

[Dig]

I am unsure Sane if your posts are disbelief, or requests for clarification.

Either way the man has no business in the white house.  He is disqualified per our laws, in so many ways.  It is as if the NWO is thumbing it nose at us.

careful these assholes are a motley crew. the lead us down wrong paths all the time. the infragard alerts are telling. they mean to divide the movement, no doubt. but this is insane, how can they just produce no proof and not expect a reaction?

something is very f-d up with this

[luckee1]

careful these assholes are a motley crew. the lead us down wrong paths all the time. the infragard alerts are telling. they mean to divide the movement, no doubt. but this is insane, how can they just produce no proof and not expect a reaction?

something is very f-d up with this

You have this issues coming to a head, the "audit the fed" and the Bohemian Grove and all these fators plus the mandatory vaccines.   It is as if the NWO wants us or is goading us to retaliate harshly.  The chemtrails being heavier than a long time, causeing irratibility.  It is really becoming a powder keg.  with a very short fuse.

[egypt]

luckee1,

Exactly what I see too.  And, to me, it means we are having an effect!  Their para-military police control grid is not yet in place and is being cleverly undermined where it is being set up.  Plus, if they can, it is imperative to discredit Alex and any of the movements.  Like you said:

 1. Holdren's textbook
 2. Bohemian Grove
 3. Qualifications for President
 4. Movies of AJs that have gone viral
 5. Population awareness that is just about getting viral
 6. 9/11 Truth
 7. Movies of AJs that have been translated & going viral in the World
 8. Audit the Fed & Abolish the Fed Legislation
 9. Obviousness of the ripping off in "bailouts"
10. Congressional Bill-passing when they are "not allowed" to read the Bills
11. Media getting braver too!  With "like Russia"  "like Communist China"  "like Nazi Germany" "communism-style"
12. Obviousness of the ridiculousness of "mandatory" vaccines

I have been contemplating on how they would discredit.  It seems that Alex has to be very careful how he reports on what nwo puts out there...  I believe we have enough "red flags" like those above and more.  So, if we stick to them, and ignore anything else that might be put out in such a way that if Truthers, Conspiracy Theorists, Birthers, 9/11 Alliances reacted {in any way} they "might" be discredited.  However, if it is something absolutely proof-perfect, fantastic.  The above should be more than enough with waking up We The People as much as possible.

You have this issues coming to a head, the "audit the fed" and the Bohemian Grove and all these fators plus the mandatory vaccines.   It is as if the NWO wants us or is goading us to retaliate harshly.  The chemtrails being heavier than a long time, causeing irratibility.  It is really becoming a powder keg.  with a very short fuse.

[Dig]

You have this issues coming to a head, the "audit the fed" and the Bohemian Grove and all these fators plus the mandatory vaccines.   It is as if the NWO wants us or is goading us to retaliate harshly.  The chemtrails being heavier than a long time, causeing irratibility.  It is really becoming a powder keg.  with a very short fuse.

yup, make sure they keep blinking first like when jay rock went schitzo about the internet.

these are the last vestages of scoundrels.

[Dig]

now it is starting to follow chaos theory...

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=120404.0

[egypt]

now it is starting to follow chaos theory...

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=120404.0

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[Kilika]

There is no evidence he was born on US soil.

No hospital proclaims itself as the proud birthplace of President Obama.

No doctor or his descendents claims to have been the one who delivered him.

PRESIDENTIAL BIRTH PLACES

Jimmy Carter, Wise Hospital, Plains, GA (The first president born in a hospital)

George H. W. Bush: 173 Adams Street, Milton Hill, MA

Bill Clinton: Julia Chester Hospital, Hope, AR

George W. Bush: Grace-New Haven Community Hospital, New Haven, CT

Barrack Hussein Obama: STATE SECRET

This is an angle I haven't seen yet mentioned, and one that I think has real merit. Starting with Dubya and working back, it should be noted how many US presidents have withheld their place of birth and the attending physician, and then have Obama's info showing "State Secret" in bold print.

I suspect Obama will be the one and only US president on that list that has withheld what hospital and who was the attending physician. Then the question of every American should be "Why?". Every president before him has made no secret of what hospital and doctor, so why him?

There's more being withheld and kept out of the public eye than is being revealed, unlike any previous president, and that is a big red flag.

[Nailer]

I believe obamas Kenyan grandmother when she stated that she was present at his birth in KENYA as why would she lie about the birth place of her grandchild.

The obamatards will say anything to justify their messiahs scam .  I  can not believe the crap they spew out defending the usurper obama .

[DireWolf]

Your "potential issues" are not issues, at all.

Were you alive when we took down Nixon as the President?  He was caught commiting crimes --- very simple.  So what?  The Vice President took his place.  No big + lots of relief.

I'm glad you don't mind the harsh criticism, but I do not find this to be an emotional issue; therefore, that statement does not even make sense to me.

Maybe someone will go to the trouble to address each point you make.  Each of your points to "drop the birth certificate issue" is not a point or issue.  You should read the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.  Then, you need to bone up on American History and the reasons why there was a war of Independence.

I agree with you and I was 14 when Nixon was ousted from office so I was well aware of the whys of the whole thing.

 If our Constitution and Bill of Rights meant anything to the majority of those in power we wouldn't be where we now find ourselves.

Coupling the mindset of the majority of the masses ( who know very little of the Constitution and its true intent ) with the fact we have ourselves our first non-white President it is not beyond possibility those wishing to retain control could in fact, polarize the sheeple into a frenzy that demand B.O. be left in place whereas then congress capitulates "to the people's will"  accomplishing their agenda de-facto so to speak.

Ignorance is a most dangerous thing, the unlearned and uneducated  are easy to manipulated into believing others agendas was / is their own.

Remember we find ourselves in an age where 90% of the people get their information from but a handful of sources that are working together to zombify their audiences and allow the NWO's agenda will come to fruition.

[chris jones]

Obama is not a legal citizen, if he were to be ousted our constitition wins. The law of the land prevails.

My take on this, Obama is a puppet, a very clever and trained, prepped and sold out. Good FK riddance if we can pull this off, and one big point for our constitution.

Oby has made this a state secret. To overide his law or edict, we would win a point also.
I'm for geting him out, exposing the truth, and bringing attention to the foundation of this nation. At the very least it would reafirm our law of the land.

Then what, the Hydra has many heads, cut one off and another takes its place. The plan of the masters is at its peak, the culmination of decades of subliminal mind control.

If he were to be outsted,Biden steps in, his crew remains in place. And what a crew it is. Bushmasters henchmen and Obys line of pyscos.

This is not a game of poker, if it were the deck is stacked.

I'm no fortune teller, but my instincts tell me the plan of the Mafia elitists have considered this option. They do not move ahead with this abomination with one plan in effect, the goal remains the same, but getting to the finale is built upon various scenerious. Plan a, b, c, d, etc.
Caines legions want it all, his legacy has not vaporized it has strenghtened in the shadows of power.

Fear is their tip of the spear, followed by various actions to complete their goal. Deception is their darling, they are well versed in creating them.

Demonic, creates visons of horns , tails , and goblins. Quite the opposite is true, they hide behind their silk suits, makeup,rhetoric and fashionable smiles and lies.
I would sooner see the hunchback of NotreDame as president.

We are not contemplating the future, this is the future, each minute they controll us, dictate to us, commit genocide and torture, our constitution is defiled and our bill of rights are atacked.

The takedown of this nation is in evidence. A great percentage of foriegn nations know this, are watching and waiting, drooling over the prize. They laugh at the American citizens, in the beleif that they are robotic morons controlled by these parasites in suits and grand titles.

 

[chris jones]

careful these assholes are a motley crew. the lead us down wrong paths all the time. the infragard alerts are telling. they mean to divide the movement, no doubt. but this is insane, how can they just produce no proof and not expect a reaction?

something is very f-d up with this

You bet there is.
Bushmaster left office with the lowest ratings in history.
The elite think tankers and the minions were very aware that the masses were were in need of a savior, and heeeeres OBY.
Because of his promises the public was thrilled, fainting, crying on bended knee.
The legalities of our Constutution were back burnered, the Gov. delayed his birth certificate intentionaly of course. The rhetoric flowed with the assistance of the MSM. He has now made a edict it is off the boards, how very FK Constitutional.

The masses, My God, he was a constitutional professor for FK sake, look at what he has on his agenda, ending the war, saving the poor, he needs to be sainted.
They played the game with excellance.
Now that this had made a riple in the waters of truth the NWO and their battalion of lackeys could, with alternative methodry procure documents testifying to his eligablity. False of course, but what has the balllsaks to chase it down, surely not our famous investigative.
 reporters.

As we speak of this in all truth and sincerity, they are formulating scenerios to dispell us, the truth that is. If in fact they do procure some BS to make him a legal, all heads will turn to us as instigators and know nothings.

I pray he is ousted from office, this will give creadence to the law of the land, it will send shivers down the liquified spine of the spengallys at the top. Not so much that Obys out of office, but that the constitution was adhered to.

It would be a fine stepping stone to return significance to our rights and law.

I would love to see him out, imagine the parasites reaction, the constitution is back in effect, run for cover.

 

[Dig]

Were you alive when we took down Nixon as the President?  He was caught commiting crimes --- very simple.  So what?  The Vice President took his place.  No big + lots of relief.

For the record, Spiro Agnew was dismissed and Gerald Ford took his place as Vice President in a negotiation between the two parties.

Thus Gerald Ford was never elected to the executive branch in any way, shape or form, yet he became a POTUS. And Nixon was set up by Kissinger.  If we only could have taken down Kissinger...that would have been a great relief for mankind.

[Truthist]

I don't get the "Just leave it alone" stance.
We can't defend just certain parts of the constitution and not others.
It's all or nothing, as that goes.

If he isn't qualified to be president, then he isn't. Get him out of there. We'll deal with the other problems as they arise.
And if people attempt to further distort the constitution just to make it fit their plans... then we'll deal with that too.

[uwaf]

Leave it alone? Well this could start something, .................leave everything alone, just let them do whatever!

 

[Dig]

Leave it alone? Well this could start something, .................leave everything alone, just let them do whatever!

 

Said the Ukrainian as Stalin's men were taking the household's food.

[blackturtle.us]

Jon Steward of the Daily Show offers this perspective: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-july-22-2009/the-born-identity

[hardrain77]

Jon Steward of the Daily Show offers this perspective: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-july-22-2009/the-born-identity

John Stewart is becoming Obama's personal softball pitcher. The 'most trusted newsman' to the NWO. 

[Monkeypox]

I don't get the "Just leave it alone" stance.

It's called "CoIntelPro".

You can spot them pretty easily when they come out of the woodwork.