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Obama’s Birth CertificateThis is still a big problem for some people, but the consequences could actually be worse if we push the issue. Let’s consider the consequences if Obama was found to have been born in another country: * He has been president long enough that the government could claim that there are too many pressing issues in the world to start over fresh with another president. * This could result in the Supreme Court making a haste decision to misinterpret the constitution due to some form of coercion. * Or congress could step in and pass a law making some exceptions to the rule. It would not be the first time congress has stepped over the constitution. * If either of the above scenarios happened, it would set a legal precedent. * Think about who benefits if this does become a legal precedent. There is one person that has been fighting to change this particular law. * Right! You guessed it. Our good friend Governor Schwarzenegger. He would be able to run for president after Obama’s eight year reign. * This could have been their plan all along. Remember, nothing is by chance in politics. Let’s consider the consequences if Obama was found to be an illegitimate president: * He would be removed from office, and we would be the laughing stock of the world for letting this happen in the first place. * Vice President Biden would become president. Most people should know by now that this guy is completely inept. I have to say this would definitely be a step down no matter how bad Obama’s policies are. * I really don’t see this happening. The powers that be, would have to approve of such an action, and I doubt that they would find these consequences beneficial. If you consider all the possibilities, we really should just let this issue die.
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2009, 12:41:17 PM » |
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2009, 12:43:36 PM » |
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What???
I never heard such a bunch of garbage
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2009, 12:48:10 PM » |
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2009, 12:49:25 PM » |
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There is a REASON for the Presidential qualifications for office.
The "natural born citizen" is about Where One's Loyalities Lay!
Now. Tell me exactly how Obama's loyalties are ~with~ and ~for~ the American People and this Country.
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2009, 12:55:22 PM » |
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I wrote it. So, you can leave your comments here if you like. I don't mind the harsh criticism. My intention was to make people aware of the potential consequences of pushing forward with this issue.
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2009, 01:02:38 PM » |
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Your "potential issues" are not issues, at all.
Were you alive when we took down Nixon as the President? He was caught commiting crimes --- very simple. So what? The Vice President took his place. No big + lots of relief.
I'm glad you don't mind the harsh criticism, but I do not find this to be an emotional issue; therefore, that statement does not even make sense to me.
Maybe someone will go to the trouble to address each point you make. Each of your points to "drop the birth certificate issue" is not a point or issue. You should read the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. Then, you need to bone up on American History and the reasons why there was a war of Independence.
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2009, 01:05:04 PM » |
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One last thing, then I don't believe I'll be posting my thoughts in this thread anymore.
It is not about "Obama." It is about the laws of our Land, that founded our Country.
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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2009, 01:15:57 PM » |
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The government doesn't obey the law of the land. They have killed the Constitution. They only make citizens obey their laws.
I own several copies of the US Constitution, Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation, etc.
I completely understand why this is a legal issue, but I think most people aren't considering the potential blowback if we follow through on it.
Nixon was outed, because the powers that be wanted him out. Nothing in politics happens by accident or chance.
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." Franklin D. Roosevelt
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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2009, 01:47:45 PM » |
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The rules may be in need of review, but the point is that those are the current rules and Obama is therefore a fraudster, a usurper and possibly an illegal alien. Turn a blind eye to this we must not.
The citizenship issue is the only ground on which the the tenure of the NWO front man and chosen messiah can be foreclosed upon. It is creaking at the seams right now and could break open at any time...now is not the time to back off the pressure, in fact the pressure must be increased by all but especially the like of Alex Jones and others in positions of influence. Jones tends to gloss over this issue or down-play it which is very disappointing.
It is however very possible that the NWO will choose to blow Barry's brains out before the citizenship issue come to a "head". I would advise Obama to resign now, but that is not in the gift of puppets and in any case, he would be dead before the words left his mouth (one of Michelle's high heels?). And being a criminal and living a complete fraud is all Obama's ever done anyway.
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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2009, 01:58:12 PM » |
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theres gonna be more blow back then the bohemian groove...
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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2009, 02:19:18 PM » |
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Ya might be onto something there.
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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2009, 02:20:44 PM » |
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Religious lemmings? Who?
Also, Obama's birth certificate is considered to be legal to obtain a driver's license, passport, etc. in the State of Hawaii... which makes it legal all around.
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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2009, 02:22:31 PM » |
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Pretty much seems that the birth certificate is valid, as there are other people in Hawaii who have birth certificates like that and the State of Hawaii considers them to be valid for whatever.
Now, as to whether or not Obama has the best interests of the American people in mind? I think it's obvious by now.
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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2009, 02:23:48 PM » |
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Ja ja ja... I cang get one of those in 45 minutes with 20 dollars... and that would be legal not only in Hawaii but in South Africa and Australia too.
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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2009, 02:24:22 PM » |
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Also, Obama's birth certificate is considered to be legal to obtain a driver's license, passport, etc. in the State of Hawaii... which makes it legal all around.
What "Birth Certificate"? The only thing they've produced is a "Certificate of Live Birth". And that doesn't even appear to be genuine. |
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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2009, 02:25:20 PM » |
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What "Birth Certificate"? The only thing they've produced is a "Certificate of Live Birth". And that doesn't even appear to be genuine.
Same difference to the State of Hawaii. And it does appear to be genuine. Stop reading WND. You'll rot your brain. |
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« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2009, 02:25:52 PM » |
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Many from the United Methodist Church shut up his mouth in the Bush Teocratic dictatorship and the atrocities. And many lemings believed he Talked to God. They believe God told him to invade evil Iraq.
That's Bush, not Obama. |
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« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2009, 02:26:25 PM » |
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What "Birth Certificate"? The only thing they've produced is a "Certificate of Live Birth". And that doesn't even appear to be genuine.
Yup cause of Hawaii law, all he needs is one family member to say he was born here, and you get a certificate of live birth. |
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« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2009, 02:27:30 PM » |
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Yup cause of Hawaii law, all he needs is one family member to say he was born here, and you get a certificate of live birth.
The birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser helps too. |
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« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2009, 02:28:57 PM » |
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Gosh! So... All I need is a relative on Hawaii and I can be a USA natural born citizen...
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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2009, 02:30:06 PM » |
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The government doesn't obey the law of the land. They have killed the Constitution. They only make citizens obey their laws.
I own several copies of the US Constitution, Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation, etc.
I completely understand why this is a legal issue, but I think most people aren't considering the potential blowback if we follow through on it.
Nixon was outed, because the powers that be wanted him out. Nothing in politics happens by accident or chance.
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." Franklin D. Roosevelt
yeah, unforntuantely washington threw out the constitution a long time ago. Some of us are just starting to realize that. they are not playing by the rules anymore. showing them the playbook just makes them laugh. |
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« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2009, 02:30:39 PM » |
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I don't think anyone contests the fact he is a US citizen by birth due to his mother being a US Citizen, but if he was born in Kenya, he would not be considered a "Natural Born Citizen", which is a requirement of the presidential office. If there was doubt to his actual citizenship, it might be a completely different story.
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« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2009, 02:31:13 PM » |
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yeah, unforntuantely washington threw out the constitution a long time ago. Some of us are just starting to realize that. they are not playing by the rules anymore. showing them the playbook just makes them laugh.
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« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2009, 02:31:17 PM » |
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Obama has a pastor who declared him "Gods Minister" and said his parishoners to follow Obamas directions. That's even more fundamentalist than the Bush lemings. If you say to hate Fundamentalist Theocracies, why do you defend Obama?
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« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2009, 02:31:50 PM » |
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I don't think anyone contests the fact he is a US citizen by birth due to his mother being a US Citizen, but if he was born in Kenya, he would not be considered a "Natural Born Citizen", which is a requirement of the presidential office. If there was doubt to his actual citizenship, it might be a completely different story.
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« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2009, 02:32:11 PM » |
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f**k that. QFT! |
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« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2009, 02:33:01 PM » |
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Yeah, there doesn't seem to be any proof that he was born in Kenya though.
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« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2009, 02:33:11 PM » |
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If you knew mexican polititians, you would understand that all that has a price. For mexican polititians it's a crime not to have more than one Birth Certificate. USA polititians learned to quick.
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« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2009, 02:35:32 PM » |
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Yeah, other than the Kenyans saying so. As far as I'm aware, Joseph Farah has a bounty of ten grand out to whoever can conclusively prove it. If it has been conclusively proven, then why hasn't he paid it out yet? |
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« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2009, 02:36:16 PM » |
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Same difference to the State of Hawaii. And it does appear to be genuine.
Stop reading WND. You'll rot your brain.
Excuse me? Why don't you call up Alex and tell him the same, since he als questions the truth about nObama's birth? I'm beginning to think you're CoIntelPro. You certainly seem to be doing your best to shut down any discussion on the issue of nObama's birth. |
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« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2009, 02:37:01 PM » |
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It doesn't take a nazi rocket scientist to figure that one out. lol
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I took the red pill. I can handle the truth !!?
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« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2009, 02:37:19 PM » |
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I said Obama has fundamentalist teocrathic folowers. He's like a Pope for many people.
No, you said that he was acting as fundamentalist as Bush was. So how is he acting that way? Excuse me? Why don't you call up Alex and tell him the same, since he als questions the truth about nObama's birth? I'm beginning to think you're CoIntelPro. You certainly seem to be doing your best to shut down any discussion on the issue of nObama's birth. I've said it before and I've said it again: if WND said the sky was blue, I'd wonder if it had turned green or something. |
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« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2009, 02:38:03 PM » |
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The birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser helps too.
Not really as obama own website proved that he wasn't natural born that is now removed of course. OBAMA's biological father was Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan native, and a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.'s offspring |
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« Reply #34 on: July 22, 2009, 02:38:13 PM » |
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As far as I'm aware, Joseph Farah has a bounty of ten grand out to whoever can conclusively prove it.
If it has been conclusively proven, then why hasn't he paid it out yet?
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There you go again, CoIntelPro. Shoot down any discussion of the issue of nObama's birth.
What is your agenda here?
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« Reply #36 on: July 22, 2009, 02:39:37 PM » |
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no this means they are all guilty and biden and the rest will be jailed...
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« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2009, 02:39:43 PM » |
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So why hasn't Farah paid it out?
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« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2009, 02:39:44 PM » |
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I examined a forensic exam of his live birth doc somewhere on the internetz. It's a fake.
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« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2009, 02:39:52 PM » |
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