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« on: July 18, 2009, 10:30:11 AM »

I used to be on it.  But now I'm not.  I recently realized how flawed it is.

How do you get more people off of it?

It seems that they feel comfortable not thinking for themselves, or, just agreeing with everyone else who believes a certain issue politically.  I think the political spectrum is harmful to the nation as a whole.  Especially with body politics. 
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2009, 10:53:41 AM »

I used to be on it.  But now I'm not.  I recently realized how flawed it is.

How do you get more people off of it?

There are many things one could do, but the all-important first thing I'd do is have them watch the following:

       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTahZE4q90U
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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2009, 11:11:22 AM »

Don't argue with them about it, its like arguing with a sports fan about how there is no logical reason to support a team, it only causes them to entrench themselves more.

Basically their tribal instinct has been hijacked, and the part of the brain that is responsible for herd mentality is pulling the strings.

You have to draw them into a tribe that is not interested in various "teams" who play the same "sport". Replace the tribe, and you will replace the negative herd mentality. Which probably means convincing them to watch less TV, and invite them to hang with people who are "awake", without "trying" to convince them of anything in particular.
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2009, 09:27:38 PM »

There are many things one could do, but the all-important first thing I'd do is have them watch the following:

       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTahZE4q90U

great vid!
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2009, 09:58:51 AM »

There are many things one could do, but the all-important first thing I'd do is have them watch the following:

       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTahZE4q90U

Yes, very good video. Thanks.
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2009, 10:16:53 PM »

That was a very good video.

My question is- how do we get people out of this false solution mindset?

People seem to be thinking now that capitalism is great... and they seem to hate socialism.  All of these people clamoring to socialism and capitalism are both on the false political spectrum still.

What can we do to wake all of them up that none of these ideologies really are about freedom, or, really, helpful for society in the long run?

People just don't seem to be very smart.  What can we do about it?
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2009, 10:30:56 PM »

That was a very good video.

My question is- how do we get people out of this false solution mindset?

People seem to be thinking now that capitalism is great... and they seem to hate socialism.  All of these people clamoring to socialism and capitalism are both on the false political spectrum still.

What can we do to wake all of them up that none of these ideologies really are about freedom, or, really, helpful for society in the long run?

In many if not most cases, awareness itself is curative.

That's why I create threads such as the following:

       http://propagandamatrix.com/forum/index.php/topic,5084.0.html
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2009, 11:08:19 PM »

That was a very good video.

My question is- how do we get people out of this false solution mindset?

People seem to be thinking now that capitalism is great... and they seem to hate socialism.  All of these people clamoring to socialism and capitalism are both on the false political spectrum still.

What can we do to wake all of them up that none of these ideologies really are about freedom, or, really, helpful for society in the long run?

People just don't seem to be very smart.  What can we do about it?

The most powerful thing that you can do to make them want to change, is to introduce them to a new "tribe" . Basically, have dinner, invite two or more others who are "awake" and one who "isnt". Make fun of them and discourage them from watching tv (industrial conformity programming machines). However don't push them too hard one the individual subjects, the goal is to change their tribe, then their beliefs will follow.


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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2009, 11:14:53 PM »

The most powerful thing that you can do to make them want to change, is to introduce them to a new "tribe" . Basically, have dinner, invite two or more others who are "awake" and one who "isnt". Make fun of them and discourage them from watching tv (industrial conformity programming machines). However don't push them too hard one the individual subjects, the goal is to change their tribe, then their beliefs will follow.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qlJqR4GmKw



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C78ND4oqJsQ
That's if you have another friend that is awake, for a lot of people it's just themselves that are awake which makes it extremely difficult
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2009, 11:22:19 PM »

You gotta target people with an open mind. Most people are really close minded and not open to possibilities. The more people open their idea that reality is not what they perceived it to be, then I would say it would be possible to change their political spectrum.

It would also be useful to try to teach nutrition to people. I have been drinking clean water and food for about one year. I can definitely say that my mind is on another plane compared to last year. I am much more cognisant and focused. That alone has allowed me to see reality for what it really is.
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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2009, 12:50:59 AM »

That's if you have another friend that is awake, for a lot of people it's just themselves that are awake which makes it extremely difficult

You mean your the only one in your city! Try using meetup.com or craigslist to build your circles.
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