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Chaos besets 9/11 court hearing
« on: July 16, 2009, 07:09:06 PM »
Censors come out at Gitmo war crimes hearing
http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/07/censors-appaer-at-war-crimes-haering/

Associated Press -- A reference to harsh treatment at CIA prisons brought out Guantanamo's censors Thursday as an official of the war crimes court abruptly cut the sound to prevent spectators from hearing classified information.

Cmdr. Suzanne Lachelier, a lawyer appointed by the Pentagon to defend 9/11 suspect Ramzi bin al Shibh, began discussing the prisoner's treatment before he was taken to Guantanamo in September 2006 when the censor hit the switch.

"The government can't hide the fact that they used sleep deprivation ..." Lachelier said before she was cut off and the sound of static filled a soundproof spectator section in the courtroom and a separate media viewing room. There is a 40-second delay in the spectator and media rooms.

U.S. authorities have cut the sound several times in the past to protect classified information and have held many hearings in private.

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Chaos besets 9/11 court hearing
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2009, 08:04:34 PM »
Scenes of chaos have gripped a US military court in Guantanamo Bay where five alleged 9/11 plotters were due to appear together before a judge.

All five, including alleged mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, initially refused to attend the hearing.

The judge rejected prosecution calls for them to be compelled to attend but three did appear after a recess.

The hearing focuses on whether two of the accused are mentally competent to represent themselves.

The 11 September 2001 attacks, in which hijacked airliners were flown into buildings in New York and Washington, killed nearly 3,000 people.

Microphone cut off

Walid Bin Attash, Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali and Mustafa Ahmad al-Hawsawi appeared in the courtroom after the recess.

But Mr Hawsawi asked to leave again after he was refused the opportunity to speak. He was escorted out by US military guards.

Mr Bin Attash asked the judge whether he could question a witness.

When told he could not, he asked: "Even if he told lies?"

When the judge again insisted he could not question the witness, Mr Bin Attash replied: "This is good justice!"

Thursday's hearing was meant to focus on whether Mr Hawsawi and a fourth defendant, Ramzi Binalshibh, were mentally competent to represent themselves.

The US military lawyer representing Mr Binalshibh said he suffered from a delusional disorder.

When the lawyer went into detail about how he had been deprived of sleep, her microphone was cut off.

Trial questions

The fifth defendant, Mr Sheikh Mohammed, refused to attend the hearing.

Described by US intelligence as "one of history's most infamous terrorists", he earlier admitted being responsible "from A to Z" for 9/11.

Believed to be the number three al-Qaeda leader before his capture in Pakistan in March 2003, he told a pre-trial hearing at Guantanamo in December 2008 that he wanted to plead guilty to all charges against him.

The Obama administration has yet to announce how the five defendants will be tried or where they will be held if the camp at Guantanamo Bay is closed by January 2010, as promised.

US President Barack Obama has ordered a halt to military commissions at Guantanamo Bay but preparations continue for military trials and prosecutors say they are ready to begin proceedings against 66 detainees.

Mr Obama has conceded that some will be tried in military courts once Congress passes legislation which puts in place a number of legal safeguards.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8153842.stm

Wow cut off the microphone for just saying sleep deprived...

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Re: Chaos besets 9/11 court hearing
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2009, 12:26:42 AM »
Sounds like Amerikkan justice circa 2009 to me.
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Re: Chaos besets 9/11 court hearing
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2009, 03:16:55 PM »
any lip readers in the house?

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Re: Chaos besets 9/11 court hearing
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2009, 03:20:58 PM »
this resounding silence is actually louder than any statement about the torture would've been...

...totalitarian govt. in action right now as far as I'm concerned

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Re: Chaos besets 9/11 court hearing
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2009, 04:40:37 PM »
recording torture sessions seems a bit sick, the henchmen must like playing them again for laughs

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Re: Chaos besets 9/11 court hearing
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2009, 04:47:25 PM »
Free speech is alive and well in America.

"But hold on, if it harms national security, you can't have someone say it"

Well, this just allows the authorities to say anything harms security and use it to selectively enforce tyranny on anyone they want.

If a member of the public knows something that damages national security, that is the government's fault for allowing them to know it. That means the government is harming national security, and the government should be prosecuted.

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Re: Chaos besets 9/11 court hearing
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2009, 05:15:12 PM »

Whats a Kangaroo court?

Let me rephrase that, this is the shape of things to come, HERE.

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Re: Chaos besets 9/11 court hearing
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2009, 10:13:44 AM »




Annotated for newspeak version:

Outrageous improprieties and miscarriages of due processScenes of chaos have gripped a remote foreign US military "court" in Guantanamo Bay (a now-illicit prisoner of war "rendition base" base the current Commander in Chief solemnly promised to close immediately in his election platform) where five alleged 9/11 "plotters" were due to appear together before a  so-called military minion-"judge".

All five, including The CIA-Pentagon's key "alleged mastermind" (also of several other made-up "terror" crimes that he allegedly also confessed to including one that couldn't have and had never ever happened) and a torture waterboarding confession victim Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, initially refused to be bothered and further insulted to attend the so-called "hearing".

Most alarmingly theThe so-called military minion-"judge" Actually rejected prosecution calls for them to be compelled to attend (what is apparently yet another pre-sentencing charade) but three did appear after a recess.

The hearing (*of all 5?) focuses on whether two of the accused are mentally competent to represent themselves. (so perhaps it is some sort of a gay translator deprived military need  to get the other 3 Muslims to determine if the two in question are demented or not)

The 11 September 2001 Daniel Chapter 8 Show-attacks, in which 3 allegedly-hijacked airliners were flown into buildings in New York and Washington, killed nearly 3,000 people.

Microphone cut off

Walid Bin Attash, Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali and Mustafa Ahmad al-Hawsawi appeared in the courtroom after the recess.

But Mr Hawsawi asked to leave again after he was refused the opportunity to speak. He was escorted outpromptly removed from the show by US military guards.

Mr Bin Attash asked the so-called military minion-"judge" whether he could question a witness.

When told he could not, he asked: "Even if he told lies?"

When the so-called military minion-"judge" again insisted he could not question the witness, Mr Bin Attash replied: "This is good justice!"

Thursday's "hearing" was meant to focus on whether Mr Hawsawi and a fourth defendant, Ramzi Binalshibh, were mentally competent to represent themselves.

The US military lawyer representing Mr Binalshibh said he suffered from a delusional disorder.

When the lawyer went into detail about how he had been deprived of sleep, her microphone was cut off.

Trial questions

The fifth defendant, Mr Sheikh Mohammed, refused to attend the hearing.

Described by the corporate privateer's US militarist protection racket "intelligence" mafias as "one of history's most infamous terrorists", he earlier (under the duress of criminal torture had allegedly) "admitted" being responsible "from A to Z" for 9/11.

Believed (by low-level CIA Mafiosi) to be the number three al-Qaeda leader before his capture in Pakistan in March 2003, he told a pre-trial hearing at Guantanamo in December 2008 that he wanted to plead guilty to all charges against him (to avoid further torture).

The Obama administration has yet to announcefigure out how the five defendants will be "tried or where they (who are clearly assumed to be guilty regardless) will be held" if the camp at Guantanamo Bay is closed by January 2010, as promised.

US President Barack Obama has ordered a halt to military commissions (such CIA Mafia Kangaroo hearings) at Guantanamo Bay but preparations continue for military trials and prosecutors say they are ready to begin (Kangaroo Court) proceedings against 66 (other innocent Afghan POW) detainees.

Mr Obama has conceded that some will be tried in military courts once Congress passes legislation which puts in place a number of legal safeguardsLoopholes.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8153842.stm

Wow cut off the microphone for just saying sleep deprived...

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Re: Chaos besets 9/11 court hearing
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2009, 05:10:13 AM »
Guantanamo is a concentration camp, not a prison. Prisoners would have rights under the Third Geneva Convention.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Geneva_Convention

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Section 1 covers the beginning of captivity (Articles 1720). It dictates what information a prisoner must give and interrogation methods that the detaining power may use "No physical or mental torture, nor any other form of coercion".
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Re: Chaos besets 9/11 court hearing
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2009, 06:04:58 AM »
Guantanamo is a concentration camp, not a prison. Prisoners would have rights under the Third Geneva Convention.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Geneva_Convention


Yup

And the way the Americans treat prisoners dictates how the 'taliban' treat captured US Soldiers.

An eye for an eye results in a blind man....


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Re: Chaos besets 9/11 court hearing
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2009, 10:44:56 AM »
Guantanamo is a concentration camp, not a prison. Prisoners would have rights under the Third Geneva Convention.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Geneva_Convention


And just like the North Korean and German concentration camps, zionazi MK Ultra psychiatrists prepare mind controlled subjects for experimentation, examination, and future deployment. Also like those others, this is manufactured, condoned, and covered up by the British Royals.  There will be no picures/videos/audios/investigation because the British Royals have deemed it too revealing of their NWO insane goals...total mind enslavement.

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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2013, 06:06:51 PM »
...pre-trial hearings continue apace despite Pentagon computer malfunctions that have compromised defense lawyers' confidentiality obligations and drastically compounded the difficulties involved in preparing their clients' defenses.

Just two weeks ago, the Chief Defense Counsel for the Office of Military Commissions testified at the Guantanamo Bay courtroom that since January, defense lawyers' computer files and e-mails had been searched by unknown U.S. government officials, their internet searches had been tracked and hundreds of thousands of computer files and e-mail messages had mysteriously disappeared.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daphne-eviatar/government-shuts-down-but_b_4031713.html