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Cameron Diaz was on Bill Maher recently and talked about her upcomming movie (daughter has cancer so she conceives a second daughter to be used for spare parts for the first daughter. eleven year old second daughter gets a lawyer to stop the stealing of her body parts. seems anti-NWO, anti-cloning, and possibly a good truth movie, anyway...).

SO they are talking about the movie and then Cameron let's out an expression that I suppose is used all over hollywood. She tells Bill that the movie is "counter-programming" to such things as transformers with stuff exploding behind Meagan Fox.

"Counter-Programming"?

Does that mean that non-"counter-programming" films are indeed "programming"?

"PROGRAMMING"

What is the program exactly?

Why isn't anyone talking about this shit?
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Re: Even the hollywood stars admit that the movies are "PROGRAMMING" us
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2009, 02:42:55 pm »
Counter Cultural Programming
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/744/
By Michael Atkinson May 21, 2004

The November firefight approaches and here we are, awash in a media flashflood of press secretary prevarication, corporate indictment dodging and in-your-face presidential lies. Gay marriage is the year’s burning flag used to incite the ignorant, while the pundits lend credence to flat-out absurdisms just by debating them—that Antonin Scalia’s outrageous conflicts of interest may not give the “appearance” of conflicts of interest, that Halliburton may not be “profiting” from a war launched for its benefit, that The Passion of the Christ may in fact have been divinely inspired. (Certainly, the millions of tax dollars poured into “faith-based” institutions and used to buy ticket blocs can be seen as a gift from God to Mel Gibson.) And, of course, the nine-figure White House marketing launch is pure skullduggery, grinning with Christian manifest destiny and transparent jingoism.

What do we do for counter-programming? Don’t rely on present-day Hollywood, that brothel of military celebration and half-measure liberalism. Instead, rent some of these firecrackers, the best left movies ever made, and keep the flags of discontent flying.

Zero de Conduite (1933) With this early talkie, legendary filmmaker Jean Vigo’s lyrical genius reinvents schoolyard rebellion as all-purpose, anti-authoritarian anthem. Essential radical viewing in any year.

It’s a Wonderful Life (1946) OK, it’s not Christmas and this poor movie may already be bled dry for most of us, but take another look: It’s the most passionate, anti-big business, pro-Socialist Hollywood film until Reds 34 years later. If Dick Cheney overacted more, he’d be Mr. Potter.

Salt of the Earth (1954)Independently made by real union miners and McCarthy blacklistees, this gutsy little epic remains the premier American union film. It met with federal opposition at every step of its production and distribution, and Mexican star Rosaura Revueltas was imprisoned and deported as a Communist. That this landmark is all but forgotten in the mainstream and the anti-union On the Waterfront is consistently celebrated cannot be happenstance.

Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956/1978/1993) This sci-fi nail-biter scenario—made three times in three political climates but never exhausted—stands as a trifold vision of every liberal’s nightmare: the conservative, empathy-free homogenization of society. As walking metaphors go, you can’t get more visceral.

Paths of Glory (1957) One of the very best anti-war movies—Stanley Kubrick doing WWI—and so an eloquent reminder for the home-frontier about artillery-ground soldier meat and self-interested authority.

The Manchurian Candidate (1962)The ultimate conspiracy thriller, despite the fact that its sky-high assassination plot—which chillingly forecast Dealey Plaza by just a month—is blamed on Sino-Soviet brainwashers. Here was the first movie to dare suggest that U.S. politics is a parliament of whores and criminals.

Lawrence of Arabia (1962)The official antidote for jolly-ho Brit Empire colonialism—here, the white hero is an egomaniacal, exotica-drunk fop, standing in for imperialists everywhere.

Les Carabiniers (1963) International cinema’s premier radical, Jean-Luc Godard, takes a lampooning cudgel to war and patriotism. Simple and merciless.

The Best Man (1964) Master upstart Gore Vidal wrote this election-year dogfight in 1960, but he could be writing it right now. Possibly the least naive American film ever about electoral combat.

The Battle of Algiers (1965) A classic, semi-documentarian portrait of “low-intensity,” neo-colonialist warfare from the Arab freedom fighters’ P.O.V.—still pertinent enough to warrant a Pentagon screening late last year.

A Report on the Party and its Guests (1966) A John Ashcroft party film, this Czech parable about informant culture and social oppression is creepy, inexorable and criminally underseen.

Greetings (1968) Brian De Palma’s first film and possibly the most incendiary American youth film of the ’60s. Why aren’t there new fist-shakers like this, and audiences for them, today?

Punishment Park (1971) Brit dystopian Peter Watkins prophecizes the Ashcroft effect: Vietnam-era protestors and lefties are arrested, tried tribunally and surreptitiously executed in the desert.

The Candidate (1972) Robert Redford as Howard Dean? This realistic farce plays presidential politicking as media mah-jongg, and the voters lose.

State of Siege (1972) Greek troublemaker Costa-Gavras explores the Tupermaro guerrillas in ’70s Uruguay, but the villain is a kidnapped government agent used to initiate right-wing coups.

The Parallax View (1974) A jittery Warren Beatty nightmare—the star’s first liberal statement—about JFK-like assassinations as an integral ingredient in American politics.

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974/2003) Bush Country and low-rung consumerist capitalism have never been so scary; the new remake gets credit for prescience.

The Battle of Chile/The Pinochet Case (1975/2001) Possibly the most outraged political document ever made, an on-the-scene, Holy Shit record of the U.S.-supported 1973 coup and its recent denouement. A must-see.

Harlan County USA (1976)/American Dream (1990) Barbara Kopple’s documentaries track the reality of the worker majority struggling to keep their livelihoods and unions.

Network (1976) This screaming Paddy Chayefsky satire is so prophetic—reality TV, punditocracy, news-as-entertainment, etc.—it’s almost redundant. Remake, anyone?

All the President’s Men (1976) Still a sobering view, ratf**king and all, of standard White House bullshit.

Apocalypse Now Redux (1979/2001) The only, and funniest, American film about Vietnam to acknowledge the conflict’s colonial roots and reality.

Winter Kills (1979) Based on the Richard Condon novel, yet another ludicrous-yet-persuasive burlesque on modern power and the JFK flashpoint; this time, John Huston stars as a diabolical Joseph Kennedy.

Reds (1981) As heartfelt and convincing a pitch for full-on socialism as Hollywood will ever make. Warren Beatty deserved a Nobel.

The Killing Fields (1984) The secret bombings are danced around, but otherwise this portrait of the Khmer Rouge rise is a powerful and convincing view of barbaric upheaval fomented by U.S. meddling.

Salvador (1986) More U.S. meddling in the post-imperial badlands, and full of talk about Reagan-era responsibility.

Walker (1987) Director Alex Cox virtually ended his career with this Molotov-cocktail about the famous U.S. freebooter who took over Nicaragua in the 1850s on behalf of federal greed and Cornelius Vanderbilt.

Roger and Me (1989) Michael Moore’s first film. America the unemployed beautiful, outside of the millionaires’ gated communities.

The Handmaid’s Tale (1990) Margaret Atwood’s bad dream about abortion rights, in which right-wing moralism creates a dreadful future of female subjugation.

JFK (1991) Oliver Stone might not be right about everything, but he’s not crazy. Here are enough cold facts to put you off trusting politicians for a lifetime.

Thelma & Louise (1991) Perhaps it’s time to revisit this feminist self-immolation—perhaps even as an empathic essay about having nothing left to lose.

The Panama Deception (1992) Bush I gets strung out to dry in this Oscar-winner. Data and more data, about an administration virtually identical to the one we have now.

Bob Roberts (1992) In this campaign mock-doc, Tim Robbins masterfully mocks the seductive idiocy of right-wing populism.

Lessons of Darkness (1992) Werner Herzog’s lyrical survey of the burning Kuwaiti oil fields. Unforgettable.

Land and Freedom (1995) Old-school lefty Ken Loach visits the Spanish Civil War and turns out one of the most eloquent films about collective society ever made.

Wag the Dog (1997) The manufacture of consent in action. This was intended as wacky spoof, but all that seems far-fetched now is the notion that we’d bother to fake a war rather than just wage a real one.

Starship Troopers (1997) The decade’s most outrageous satire of American-pop jingoism, bar none. No wonder it was misunderstood.

Bulworth (1998) In a hip-hop context now, Warren Beatty again dares to utter the ‘S’ word and mean it.

The Thin Red Line (1998) Another “best” anti-war film, unmuddied by heroism and ruled by irrationality.

Pleasantville (1998) A cartoon metaphor in which underage sex, masturbation and literature destroys reactionary control. We can dream.

Three Kings (1999) David O. Russell’s blessedly disrespectful comedy of Gulf War greed, whose idea of a sentimental ending is the bribing of U.S. officials to let refugees live.

A Time for Drunken Horses (2000) Of the many acidic Iranian films we’ve seen, this one softens no edges about refugee life in Mesopotamia.

La Commune (Paris, 1871) (2000) Peter Watkins’ six-hour faux-news report about the nearly forgotten proto-communist uprising is virtually a living seminar in class-consciousness.

Kandahar (2001) A pre-9/11 Afghan voyage by master Iranian Mohsen Makhmalbaf and a surreal, chador-haunted critique of both Taliban conservatism and Western opportunism.

Bloody Sunday (2002) A minute-by-minute account of the famous Irish massacre. Accurately and furiously anti-British, but a gut-wrenching window on civilian casualties everywhere.

Noam Chomsky: Power and Terror in Our Times (2002) Any C-SPAN lecture would do, but this hit theaters and attacks the War on Terror’s profound illogic.

Bowling for Columbine (2002) The NRA is one of Bush II’s big contributors; this movie should run 24/7 on cable all fall.

The Trials of Henry Kissinger (2002) He’s been employed by every president since Nixon in one capacity or another, and yet he’s personally responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths. Let’s take it to The Hague.

In This World (2003) Michael Winter-bottom’s verité day-in-the-smuggled-refugee-life puts you in 15 million people’s threadbare sandals.

The Fog of War (2003) War bureaucrat Robert McNamara double-talks and rationalizes his career on camera, and a few more million deaths are left unaccounted for. This is how government officials live with themselves.

Where to find these films: Good online rental programs include Netflix.com or Facets.org, while cinephiles looking to build their video libraries can turn to DVDPlanet.com, MoviesUnlimited.com, CDUniverse.com or Amazon.com, as well as the original distributors, including Facets, First Run/Icarus Films (www.frif.com) and Rhino.com.
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Re: Even the hollywood stars admit that the movies are "PROGRAMMING" us
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2009, 03:01:21 pm »
How The Media Controls Your Mind (Alan Watt)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlr0qf0eTHU

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Re: Even the hollywood stars admit that the movies are "PROGRAMMING" us
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2009, 03:13:49 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm9PA-yAf4c

 Not sure how real this is but interesting.

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Re: Even the hollywood stars admit that the movies are "PROGRAMMING" us
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2009, 03:28:02 pm »
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.net/transcripts/Mass_Mind_Control_Alan_Watt.html

April 15th, 2006 Alan Watt – Special Talk:

“MASS MIND CONTROL”

(WHY YOUR PARENTS ARE REALLY SCREWED UP)

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INCLUDING ALDOUS HUXLEY SPEECH

WITH ALAN WATT

Dialogue Copyrighted Alan Watt – April 15, 2006 (Exempting Music and Literary Quotes)

 

Hi, this is Alan. I’d just like to say a few words as to how our website has been received and how information has affected some people different types of people in different ways and I think it appropriate to give a few comments on this particular website of mine.

I put this up really not with the intention of going along with any mainstream popular movement. I don’t really like popular movements. Most popular movements as Plato said "are given from the top down for the people to follow."

Rather this particular website should be an example for people who are individuals who can see that the king has no clothes so to speak and they want to emulate this kind of website for themselves by informing themselves of what really is happening in their life. What’s behind it. The techniques that are used to motivate people into mass movements. Different kinds of mind control. We tend to think of mind control as being really a one-on-one thing from a kidnapped people by spies and so on, but in reality the easiest form of mind control is generated from basically governmental institutions, by a media and propaganda. It’s the most ancient technique that’s ever been used and why change it when it works so well ALWAYS.

If you have a million people taught that the earth is flat and you train them all to believe in this, then obviously the norm in that society would be to say that the earth is flat. If one person says wait a minute here, I’ve proven by my own investigations that it’s impossible to be flat, then all the rest of the people will think he’s crazy. That’s because it’s easier to influence the bulk of the population than it is to get to a thinking individual with his own inquiry.

[Continued...]
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2009, 04:03:44 pm »
very interesting thread /bump.

Once your mind opens to it, subliminal mind control propaganda is everywhere - I see it on everything and in everything.

Occultic designs on shirts, conservative double talk, commercials inundated with dark omens and symbols that would send a medieval man running in fear!

good post sane/geo very interesting reading

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Re: Even the hollywood stars admit that the movies are "PROGRAMMING" us
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2009, 04:05:16 pm »
Cameron Diaz was on Bill Maher


watch it here, scroll down . edit go to 06 26 09
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Bill called her a world citizen too.

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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2009, 04:20:59 pm »
watch it here, scroll down . edit go to 06 26 09
http://snardfarker.ning.com/profiles/blogs/rtwbm-1
Bill called her a world citizen too.



WoW! i can't believe I used to watch the Bill Maher show - I used to think he was on the level but as soon as his butt buddy barrack got elected he immediately stopped calling out the shadow govt.

Not to mention re-enforcing the 9/11 myth

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Re: Even the hollywood stars admit that the movies are "PROGRAMMING" us
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2009, 04:41:02 pm »
watch it here, scroll down . edit go to 06 26 09
http://snardfarker.ning.com/profiles/blogs/rtwbm-1
Bill called her a world citizen too.



yeah that whole interview was freaky, like they were deciding what truths they would allow us barbarians to know about.

Bill is a total elitist and could not care less about depopulation.
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2009, 04:51:16 pm »
WoW! i can't believe I used to watch the Bill Maher show - I used to think he was on the level but as soon as his butt buddy barrack got elected he immediately stopped calling out the shadow govt.

Not to mention re-enforcing the 9/11 myth

I am no fan of Mahers, however there can be some interesting statements made on the show.
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2009, 05:05:08 pm »
 I would say Cameron meant counter programming as in different movie type, the word programming used in the same meaning as in radio programming, tv programming, ...meaning the type of content....sci-fi type tv, drama type tv....drama programing, sci-fi programming...
 but I guess that doesn't make as interesting thread does it...lol

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Re: Even the hollywood stars admit that the movies are "PROGRAMMING" us
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2009, 05:14:30 pm »
I would say Cameron meant...

Who cares what she meant? She's yet another pretentious, overhyped celebrity who doesn't know her ass from a hole in the ground, yet thinks she's "informed."
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2009, 05:24:47 pm »
Who cares what she meant? She's yet another pretentious, overhyped celebrity who doesn't know her ass from a hole in the ground, yet thinks she's "informed."
I wasn't saying she wasn't a ditz, I think for the most part just about most of them are and couldn't find their own ass with both hands and a map. I was just expressing what I thought was the context of the word "programming" is all.

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Re: Even the hollywood stars admit that the movies are "PROGRAMMING" us
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2009, 05:35:12 pm »
Quoting Sane
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974/2003) Bush Country and low-rung consumerist capitalism have never been so scary; the new remake gets credit for prescience.
The Handmaid’s Tale (1990) Margaret Atwood’s bad dream about abortion rights, in which right-wing moralism creates a dreadful future of female subjugation.
Starship Troopers (1997) The decade’s most outrageous satire of American-pop jingoism, bar none. No wonder it was misunderstood.
Three Kings (1999) David O. Russell’s blessedly disrespectful comedy of Gulf War greed, whose idea of a sentimental ending is the bribing of U.S. officials to let refugees live.


1) TCM - Tobe Hooper got that one right for sure, and it's not at all the gore fest many believe. The remake was a little gory, but damn if if Jessica Biel wasn't great to watch!! If your a horror nut like me I would add a few others Phantasm (1979), Suspiria (1977), Dawn of the Dead (1978), Alien (1979).
2) The Handmaid's Tale - a lot of people took this one as a slap at the Church, but if you watch closely it's more of a shot at those who use the Church to attain power. That all seeing eye emblem of their government at the end of the movie, on the tv screen pretty much showed who really ran the place.
3) Starship Troopers - great movie, and it's sad most missed the satire. I watched it with a group of recently, and they thought the global fascist government was a great idea. Sad.
4) Three Kings -  Great movie. Too bad its almost forgotten now.

Another must see I would throw out there Ang Lee's Civil War movie Ride With the Devil. Great historical account of the Missouri/Kansas guerilla war.  

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Re: Even the hollywood stars admit that the movies are "PROGRAMMING" us
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2009, 05:56:15 pm »
Maybe she woke up after dating Rothschild.

Perhaps, but then she is a blonde, so probably not. (chuckle)
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Re: Even the hollywood stars admit that the movies are "PROGRAMMING" us
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2009, 06:01:33 pm »
Counter Cultural Programming
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/744/
By Michael Atkinson May 21, 2004

The November firefight approaches and here we are, awash in a media flashflood of press secretary prevarication, corporate indictment dodging and in-your-face presidential lies. Gay marriage is the year’s burning flag used to incite the ignorant, while the pundits lend credence to flat-out absurdisms just by debating them—that Antonin Scalia’s outrageous conflicts of interest may not give the “appearance” of conflicts of interest, that Halliburton may not be “profiting” from a war launched for its benefit, that The Passion of the Christ may in fact have been divinely inspired. (Certainly, the millions of tax dollars poured into “faith-based” institutions and used to buy ticket blocs can be seen as a gift from God to Mel Gibson.) And, of course, the nine-figure White House marketing launch is pure skullduggery, grinning with Christian manifest destiny and transparent jingoism.

What do we do for counter-programming? Don’t rely on present-day Hollywood, that brothel of military celebration and half-measure liberalism. Instead, rent some of these firecrackers, the best left movies ever made, and keep the flags of discontent flying.

Zero de Conduite (1933) With this early talkie, legendary filmmaker Jean Vigo’s lyrical genius reinvents schoolyard rebellion as all-purpose, anti-authoritarian anthem. Essential radical viewing in any year.

It’s a Wonderful Life (1946) OK, it’s not Christmas and this poor movie may already be bled dry for most of us, but take another look: It’s the most passionate, anti-big business, pro-Socialist Hollywood film until Reds 34 years later. If Dick Cheney overacted more, he’d be Mr. Potter.

Salt of the Earth (1954)Independently made by real union miners and McCarthy blacklistees, this gutsy little epic remains the premier American union film. It met with federal opposition at every step of its production and distribution, and Mexican star Rosaura Revueltas was imprisoned and deported as a Communist. That this landmark is all but forgotten in the mainstream and the anti-union On the Waterfront is consistently celebrated cannot be happenstance.

Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956/1978/1993) This sci-fi nail-biter scenario—made three times in three political climates but never exhausted—stands as a trifold vision of every liberal’s nightmare: the conservative, empathy-free homogenization of society. As walking metaphors go, you can’t get more visceral.

Paths of Glory (1957) One of the very best anti-war movies—Stanley Kubrick doing WWI—and so an eloquent reminder for the home-frontier about artillery-ground soldier meat and self-interested authority.

The Manchurian Candidate (1962)The ultimate conspiracy thriller, despite the fact that its sky-high assassination plot—which chillingly forecast Dealey Plaza by just a month—is blamed on Sino-Soviet brainwashers. Here was the first movie to dare suggest that U.S. politics is a parliament of whores and criminals.

Lawrence of Arabia (1962)The official antidote for jolly-ho Brit Empire colonialism—here, the white hero is an egomaniacal, exotica-drunk fop, standing in for imperialists everywhere.

Les Carabiniers (1963) International cinema’s premier radical, Jean-Luc Godard, takes a lampooning cudgel to war and patriotism. Simple and merciless.

The Best Man (1964) Master upstart Gore Vidal wrote this election-year dogfight in 1960, but he could be writing it right now. Possibly the least naive American film ever about electoral combat.

The Battle of Algiers (1965) A classic, semi-documentarian portrait of “low-intensity,” neo-colonialist warfare from the Arab freedom fighters’ P.O.V.—still pertinent enough to warrant a Pentagon screening late last year.

A Report on the Party and its Guests (1966) A John Ashcroft party film, this Czech parable about informant culture and social oppression is creepy, inexorable and criminally underseen.

Greetings (1968) Brian De Palma’s first film and possibly the most incendiary American youth film of the ’60s. Why aren’t there new fist-shakers like this, and audiences for them, today?

Punishment Park (1971) Brit dystopian Peter Watkins prophecizes the Ashcroft effect: Vietnam-era protestors and lefties are arrested, tried tribunally and surreptitiously executed in the desert.

The Candidate (1972) Robert Redford as Howard Dean? This realistic farce plays presidential politicking as media mah-jongg, and the voters lose.

State of Siege (1972) Greek troublemaker Costa-Gavras explores the Tupermaro guerrillas in ’70s Uruguay, but the villain is a kidnapped government agent used to initiate right-wing coups.

The Parallax View (1974) A jittery Warren Beatty nightmare—the star’s first liberal statement—about JFK-like assassinations as an integral ingredient in American politics.

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974/2003) Bush Country and low-rung consumerist capitalism have never been so scary; the new remake gets credit for prescience.

The Battle of Chile/The Pinochet Case (1975/2001) Possibly the most outraged political document ever made, an on-the-scene, Holy Shit record of the U.S.-supported 1973 coup and its recent denouement. A must-see.

Harlan County USA (1976)/American Dream (1990) Barbara Kopple’s documentaries track the reality of the worker majority struggling to keep their livelihoods and unions.

Network (1976) This screaming Paddy Chayefsky satire is so prophetic—reality TV, punditocracy, news-as-entertainment, etc.—it’s almost redundant. Remake, anyone?

All the President’s Men (1976) Still a sobering view, ratf**king and all, of standard White House bullshit.

Apocalypse Now Redux (1979/2001) The only, and funniest, American film about Vietnam to acknowledge the conflict’s colonial roots and reality.

Winter Kills (1979) Based on the Richard Condon novel, yet another ludicrous-yet-persuasive burlesque on modern power and the JFK flashpoint; this time, John Huston stars as a diabolical Joseph Kennedy.

Reds (1981) As heartfelt and convincing a pitch for full-on socialism as Hollywood will ever make. Warren Beatty deserved a Nobel.

The Killing Fields (1984) The secret bombings are danced around, but otherwise this portrait of the Khmer Rouge rise is a powerful and convincing view of barbaric upheaval fomented by U.S. meddling.

Salvador (1986) More U.S. meddling in the post-imperial badlands, and full of talk about Reagan-era responsibility.

Walker (1987) Director Alex Cox virtually ended his career with this Molotov-cocktail about the famous U.S. freebooter who took over Nicaragua in the 1850s on behalf of federal greed and Cornelius Vanderbilt.

Roger and Me (1989) Michael Moore’s first film. America the unemployed beautiful, outside of the millionaires’ gated communities.

The Handmaid’s Tale (1990) Margaret Atwood’s bad dream about abortion rights, in which right-wing moralism creates a dreadful future of female subjugation.

JFK (1991) Oliver Stone might not be right about everything, but he’s not crazy. Here are enough cold facts to put you off trusting politicians for a lifetime.

Thelma & Louise (1991) Perhaps it’s time to revisit this feminist self-immolation—perhaps even as an empathic essay about having nothing left to lose.

The Panama Deception (1992) Bush I gets strung out to dry in this Oscar-winner. Data and more data, about an administration virtually identical to the one we have now.

Bob Roberts (1992) In this campaign mock-doc, Tim Robbins masterfully mocks the seductive idiocy of right-wing populism.

Lessons of Darkness (1992) Werner Herzog’s lyrical survey of the burning Kuwaiti oil fields. Unforgettable.

Land and Freedom (1995) Old-school lefty Ken Loach visits the Spanish Civil War and turns out one of the most eloquent films about collective society ever made.

Wag the Dog (1997) The manufacture of consent in action. This was intended as wacky spoof, but all that seems far-fetched now is the notion that we’d bother to fake a war rather than just wage a real one.

Starship Troopers (1997) The decade’s most outrageous satire of American-pop jingoism, bar none. No wonder it was misunderstood.

Bulworth (1998) In a hip-hop context now, Warren Beatty again dares to utter the ‘S’ word and mean it.

The Thin Red Line (1998) Another “best” anti-war film, unmuddied by heroism and ruled by irrationality.

Pleasantville (1998) A cartoon metaphor in which underage sex, masturbation and literature destroys reactionary control. We can dream.

Three Kings (1999) David O. Russell’s blessedly disrespectful comedy of Gulf War greed, whose idea of a sentimental ending is the bribing of U.S. officials to let refugees live.

A Time for Drunken Horses (2000) Of the many acidic Iranian films we’ve seen, this one softens no edges about refugee life in Mesopotamia.

La Commune (Paris, 1871) (2000) Peter Watkins’ six-hour faux-news report about the nearly forgotten proto-communist uprising is virtually a living seminar in class-consciousness.

Kandahar (2001) A pre-9/11 Afghan voyage by master Iranian Mohsen Makhmalbaf and a surreal, chador-haunted critique of both Taliban conservatism and Western opportunism.

Bloody Sunday (2002) A minute-by-minute account of the famous Irish massacre. Accurately and furiously anti-British, but a gut-wrenching window on civilian casualties everywhere.

Noam Chomsky: Power and Terror in Our Times (2002) Any C-SPAN lecture would do, but this hit theaters and attacks the War on Terror’s profound illogic.

Bowling for Columbine (2002) The NRA is one of Bush II’s big contributors; this movie should run 24/7 on cable all fall.

The Trials of Henry Kissinger (2002) He’s been employed by every president since Nixon in one capacity or another, and yet he’s personally responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths. Let’s take it to The Hague.

In This World (2003) Michael Winter-bottom’s verité day-in-the-smuggled-refugee-life puts you in 15 million people’s threadbare sandals.

The Fog of War (2003) War bureaucrat Robert McNamara double-talks and rationalizes his career on camera, and a few more million deaths are left unaccounted for. This is how government officials live with themselves.

Where to find these films: Good online rental programs include Netflix.com or Facets.org, while cinephiles looking to build their video libraries can turn to DVDPlanet.com, MoviesUnlimited.com, CDUniverse.com or Amazon.com, as well as the original distributors, including Facets, First Run/Icarus Films (www.frif.com) and Rhino.com.

Hmmm, apparently "Counter Culture"  means Socialism/Communism.
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« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2009, 06:27:15 pm »
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Hmmm, apparently "Counter Culture"  means Socialism/Communism.

 Yeah funny how the counter culture is so often painted as everything BUT ANTI WAR which was the biggest driving force behind it. It all started with long haired anti war freaks being accused of being commies because they didnt support the vietnam war which the propaganda of the day was against communism, so if you were anti war then you were automatically a suspected communist. I'll bet the americans who died fighting communism would be abhorred at the red carpet we roll out for china nowadays :P

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Yeah funny how the counter culture is so often painted as everything BUT ANTI WAR which was the biggest driving force behind it. It all started with long haired anti war freaks being accused of being commies because they didnt support the vietnam war which the propaganda of the day was against communism, so if you were anti war then you were automatically a suspected communist. I'll bet the americans who died fighting communism would be abhorred at the red carpet we roll out for china nowadays :P

lots of anti-war movies mentioned. not really seeing the socialism/communism slant.

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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2009, 09:55:25 pm »
Quoting Sane
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974/2003) Bush Country and low-rung consumerist capitalism have never been so scary; the new remake gets credit for prescience.
The Handmaid’s Tale (1990) Margaret Atwood’s bad dream about abortion rights, in which right-wing moralism creates a dreadful future of female subjugation.
Starship Troopers (1997) The decade’s most outrageous satire of American-pop jingoism, bar none. No wonder it was misunderstood.
Three Kings (1999) David O. Russell’s blessedly disrespectful comedy of Gulf War greed, whose idea of a sentimental ending is the bribing of U.S. officials to let refugees live.


1) TCM - Tobe Hooper got that one right for sure, and it's not at all the gore fest many believe. The remake was a little gory, but damn if if Jessica Biel wasn't great to watch!! If your a horror nut like me I would add a few others Phantasm (1979), Suspiria (1977), Dawn of the Dead (1978), Alien (1979).
2) The Handmaid's Tale - a lot of people took this one as a slap at the Church, but if you watch closely it's more of a shot at those who use the Church to attain power. That all seeing eye emblem of their government at the end of the movie, on the tv screen pretty much showed who really ran the place.
3) Starship Troopers - great movie, and it's sad most missed the satire. I watched it with a group of recently, and they thought the global fascist government was a great idea. Sad.
4) Three Kings -  Great movie. Too bad its almost forgotten now.

Another must see I would throw out there Ang Lee's Civil War movie Ride With the Devil. Great historical account of the Missouri/Kansas guerilla war.  

handmaid's tale - completely agree, must see movie.

starship troopers, almost needs a prelude, but yeah once you see the similarities with actual masters of war the movie is definitely an eye opener.

three kings is very good, but leaves so much out.
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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2009, 11:00:27 pm »
you mentioned starship troopers and you forgot about robocop!?
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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2009, 11:19:46 pm »
Perhaps, but then she is a blonde, so probably not. (chuckle)

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