Benjamin Fulford: About homosexuals and secret societies

[Outer Haven]

From his blog (www.benjaminfulford.com):


About homosexuals and secret societies

As the Thule Society, Skull and Bones and Sayeed (Saudi) family secret societies teeter on the brink of collapse, multiple insiders are revealing one of their biggest secrets: institutionalized homosexuality. The secret initiation rituals at Skull and Bones turn out to be a homosexual orgy; ditto those at parallel secret societies.

These traditions probably have very ancient roots indeed. When harems are found in the animal kingdom, you often also get large groups of single males living together. These male groups practice fighting with each other and engage in homosexual sex in order to strengthen group bonds.

Anthropologists have found polygamy in almost every single human society they have ever surveyed. Young low-ranking males commonly form gangs throughout the world. When large groups of males live together, in isolation from females, homosexuality emerges as a common practice.

The Skull and Bones/Thule people claim their traditions go back to ancient Sparta. We know the Greeks believed that sex between men was “purer” than heterosexual sex. We also know that older, high-ranking males took in pubescent boys as lovers and pupils. Thus Socrates had sex with the young Plato; Plato later did the same with his disciple Aristotle and Aristotle with his student Alexander the Great. No doubt this practice created strong emotional bonds between “teacher” and “student.”

This tradition apparently continues to this day with George Bush senior, Henry Kissinger and the like buggering young men (eg. Bill Clinton, Barak Obama) they then nurture into positions of power.

This kind of homosexuality is not limited to Skull and Bones and the Thule society. For example, homosexuality was common among the Samurai and Japanese yakuza gangs. Monasteries are also well-known as centers of institutionalized homosexuality.

Then of course we have the naval traditions. Navies have learned that having women on board creates all sorts of trouble. That is why they usually became (until recently) all male organizations. Winston Churchill summed up the strength of the British navy quite well by boiling it all down to “rum, buggery and the lash.”

As we know from the various insider accounts of places like the Bohemian grove and various military and navy bases the military/homosexual tradition is alive and well in the U.S. secret establishment.

The question is what to do about this. In order to get a better insight into this culture I went to one of Japan’s largest homosexual saunas and observed the action. I think it would make a great thesis topic for an economist or game strategist to study the interactions between these males as they decide whether or not to engage in sex acts with each-other. It is a win/win system where pleasure is traded for pleasure. There is a hierarchy with better looking young men tending to couple with each other and older, less attractive mean with each other. In other words there is a tendency towards trading equal amounts of pleasure (eg good looking for good looking). Spontaneous orgies are also apparently common (I did not see enough action to get a statistically valid number).

Clearly when power structures are involved, there is also a dominance issue that comes into play with the dominant males “mounting” their subordinates in a display of power. Such activities would tend to reinforce the hierarchical power structure of the organization.

As a person who is over 95% hetero-sexual (I have tried it but basically found it an inferior substitute for women, sort of like having to drink non-alcoholic beer because the real stuff is not available), I am very much in favor of allowing homosexual institutions to “come out of the closet” and actively recruit members because it would mean that much less competition for the women.

The advantage of having openly homo-sexual military units, monasteries etc. is that members could no longer be blackmailed about the big “secret.” Having groups of bonded males with no families of their own acting in defense of the species also seems to be a good survival strategy.

So the problem facing the United States is what to do about these homo-sexually bonded secret society types who grabbed power under Fuhrer George Bush Senior. Part of the solution might be a big coming out party.

[Unintelligable Name]

Yikes that is certainly a strange opinion of things. I agree with the information given except for the bit on Spartans. The opinion however I find to be asinine.

[2010]

As a person who is over 95% hetero-sexual (I have tried it but basically found it an inferior substitute for women,

That I didn't know.

[centexan]

http://www.abidingtruth.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the_pinkswastika_4th_edition_-_final.htm

The Pink Swastika.  About the Nazi Party in Germany, but it addresses homosexuality in other cultures, ancient and modern.  Lots of stuff about America in this.

[centexan]

I've noticed others post pages and pages of books on the forum...should I copy and paste the pertinent parts of this on a new thread someday, instead of endlessly leaving this link behind?  Opinion, Sane?  This is a kickass book, free on the internet.

[TheHouseMan]

I found this info quite useful. Benjamin can often give interesting stuff. Too bad he keeps making these predictions that never come true.

[TimeLady]

the pink swastika is bullshit

also, "openly homosexual" navies and monasteries? no monastery is "openly homosexual," if it's actually homosexual at all (vow of chastity, anyone?)

something about this piece stinks

[Dig]

I've noticed others post pages and pages of books on the forum...should I copy and paste the pertinent parts of this on a new thread someday, instead of endlessly leaving this link behind?  Opinion, Sane?  This is a kickass book, free on the internet.

pink swastika is a must read. i do not agree 100% with the opinions, but there is crucial information there that is hard to find anywhere else.

realize that the nazis used homosexuality as indoctrination methods for the upper eschelon (thule society ritualistic insanity), then genocided all of the homosexuals (exept of course the most elite) as a cleansing ritual of sorts (prop up a group and then target it, classic NEO game theory). The same thing was done in Cuba, Russia, elsewhere. It seems that the neo-cons have conducted similar practices.

Carmina Burana's O Fortuna!

Peopl like Wesley Clark and Rachel Maddow better wake the f**k up because the new world order will again do the same thing they did in germany and dump the entire rainbow coalition into the cannon fodder of tomorrow.

As far as Benji... I believe he is compromised and pushing an NWO agenda.

As far as his statement...

I agree with this:

About homosexuals and secret societies

As the Thule Society, Skull and Bones and Sayeed (Saudi) family secret societies teeter on the brink of collapse, multiple insiders are revealing one of their biggest secrets: institutionalized homosexuality. The secret initiation rituals at Skull and Bones turn out to be a homosexual orgy; ditto those at parallel secret societies.

These traditions probably have very ancient roots indeed. When harems are found in the animal kingdom, you often also get large groups of single males living together. These male groups practice fighting with each other and engage in homosexual sex in order to strengthen group bonds.

Anthropologists have found polygamy in almost every single human society they have ever surveyed. Young low-ranking males commonly form gangs throughout the world. When large groups of males live together, in isolation from females, homosexuality emerges as a common practice.

The Skull and Bones/Thule people claim their traditions go back to ancient Sparta. We know the Greeks believed that sex between men was “purer” than heterosexual sex. We also know that older, high-ranking males took in pubescent boys as lovers and pupils. Thus Socrates had sex with the young Plato; Plato later did the same with his disciple Aristotle and Aristotle with his student Alexander the Great. No doubt this practice created strong emotional bonds between “teacher” and “student.”

This tradition apparently continues to this day with George Bush senior, Henry Kissinger and the like buggering young men (eg. Bill Clinton, Barak Obama) they then nurture into positions of power.

This kind of homosexuality is not limited to Skull and Bones and the Thule society.

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I do not know about this:

For example, homosexuality was common among the Samurai and Japanese yakuza gangs. Monasteries are also well-known as centers of institutionalized homosexuality.

And the rest is suspect.

Additionally, it is not so much homosexuality, but sadistic depravity, immorality, and perversion. Sick control/shame conditioning. These societies do not promote  lifelong parties, but sick orgies involvng group pissing on naked guys in coffins (and worse). This is not something that Benji should promote by more open IMO. As far as being homosexual, well discuss that in the gay board, seems more like a divisive topic than anything else.  To me, this is all part of the control.shame game.  Whether you cheat on your wife, do it with a vacuum cleaner, or bugger young boys (as Kissinger likes), they will promote this depravity so they can control the subject. To me it is not really about the homo/hetero discussions (as Benji is trying to pigeon hole this conversation into), it is about controlling more sub-elites by "having dirt on them."

[thenewsonsofliberty]

also, could this be used as part of a way to ensure secrecy?

[GhostofTsenzei]

also, could this be used as part of a way to ensure secrecy?

Essentially yes.

Think about how "frat house" hazing works, then amplify it with even greater depravity.

[Unintelligable Name]

@Sane: The Samurai sodomized young boys, and Geishas were men for a looooong time. As for two Samurais having sex, no idea. Japan was very incestuous prior to Westernization but even after Westernazation their culture still has many peculiarities...

[centexan]

Even the enduring image of Nazi book-burning, familiar to us from newsreels of the 1930s, was directly related to the homosexuality of Nazi leaders.  The first such incident occurred four days after Hitler’s Brownshirts broke into Magnus Hirschfeld’s Institute for Sexual Research in Berlin on May 6, 1933.  On May 10 the Nazis burned thousands of books and files taken in that raid.  The Institute had extensive records on the sexual perversions of numerous Nazi leaders, many of whom had been under treatment there prior to the beginning of the Nazi regime.  Treatment at the Sex Research Institute was required by the German courts for persons convicted of sex crimes.  Ludwig L. Lenz, who worked at the Institute at the time of the raid but managed to escape with his life, later wrote of the incident:

Why was it then, since we were completely non-party, that our purely scientific Institute was the first victim which fell to the new regime?  The answer to this is simple...We knew too much.  It would be against medical principles to provide a list of the Nazi leaders and their perversions [but]...not ten percent of the men who, in 1933, took the fate of Germany into their hands, were sexually normal...Our knowledge of such intimate secrets regarding members of the Nazi Party and other documentary material — we possessed about forty thousand confessions and biographical letters — was the cause of the complete and utter destruction of the Institute of Sexology.

http://www.abidingtruth.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the_pinkswastika_4th_edition_-_final.htm

[thenewsonsofliberty]

i dont know if this has been posted here..

i cant remember where i first heard of it, but apparently in one of alister crowley's book he had made mention of something, that was one of the biggest illuminati secrets. just in off chance that someone might not know about crowley, he is said to be the most evil man that ever lived; and he was a part of the highest ranking 33rd degree freemasons, a long with supposedly being a top illuminati degree. any way,  the high priests of masonry after he revealed this secret and came to him to cast down their anger saying how could you print that!? one of the greatest illuminati secrets of all time, so the story goes. well this secret that crowley had accidentally published was that the sleeping with a child girl, gave the person more life. and essentially THAT is the fountain of youth. also, that sodomizing young boys opened doorways to other dimesions. now i'm not saying this is true.. this is just what they believe. please do not attempt. (ha)

but yeah, im sure that's been posted somewhere on here before.

[Dig]

@Sane: The Samurai sodomized young boys, and Geishas were men for a looooong time. As for two Samurais having sex, no idea. Japan was very incestuous prior to Westernization but even after Westernazation their culture still has many peculiarities...

thanks for the follow up, any links and sources?

[Dig]

i dont know if this has been posted here..

i cant remember where i first heard of it, but apparently in one of alister crowley's book he had made mention of something, that was one of the biggest illuminati secrets. just in off chance that someone might not know about crowley, he is said to be the most evil man that ever lived; and he was a part of the highest ranking 33rd degree freemasons, a long with supposedly being a top illuminati degree. any way,  the high priests of masonry after he revealed this secret and came to him to cast down their anger saying how could you print that!? one of the greatest illuminati secrets of all time, so the story goes. well this secret that crowley had accidentally published was that the sleeping with a child girl, gave the person more life. and essentially THAT is the fountain of youth. also, that sodomizing young boys opened doorways to other dimesions. now i'm not saying this is true.. this is just what they believe. please do not attempt. (ha)

but yeah, im sure that's been posted somewhere on here before.

alister crowley was a court jester joke (similar to anton lavay in the US). he was used to create a celebrity "buzz" around satanism and promote the most insane cultisms. Nothing original whatsoever (go to blavatsky or pike for more originality into these occultist doctrines). but he definitley promoted the idea that peadaphilia gave everlasting life and there apparently seems to be a sub-culture of sub-elites that abide by this insane doctrine of deception. sad, sad, sad.

correction, I believe that crowley promoted the idea that being sodomized allowed oneself to transcend reality (especially when incorporating the experience with mind altering drugs). still searching for the paedaphilia stuff.

[Unintelligable Name]

thanks for the follow up, any links and sources?

not on this Iphone but most of it I learned from Ph.d University papers found on Google.

[jofortruth]

http://www.scribd.com/doc/12963861/The-Pink-Swastika-Homosexuality-in-the-Nazi-Party-Lively-Abrams-2002

[trailhound]

i dont know if this has been posted here..

i cant remember where i first heard of it, but apparently in one of alister crowley's book he had made mention of something, that was one of the biggest illuminati secrets. just in off chance that someone might not know about crowley, he is said to be the most evil man that ever lived; and he was a part of the highest ranking 33rd degree freemasons, a long with supposedly being a top illuminati degree. any way,  the high priests of masonry after he revealed this secret and came to him to cast down their anger saying how could you print that!? one of the greatest illuminati secrets of all time, so the story goes. well this secret that crowley had accidentally published was that the sleeping with a child girl, gave the person more life. and essentially THAT is the fountain of youth. also, that sodomizing young boys opened doorways to other dimesions. now i'm not saying this is true.. this is just what they believe. please do not attempt. (ha)

but yeah, im sure that's been posted somewhere on here before.

 The secret he printed was this

 the way to succeed and the way to suck eggs

 you dont suck eggs out of little boys so i dunno

 Also catholics are generally the most critical of Crowley and ironic that their priests keep getting caught doing little boys, which Crowley was never charged with neither did he admit to said accusations.