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http://www.dailypaul.com/node/99084link to NYTIMES- http://www.nytimes.com/1999/02/16/us/scientists-uncover-clues-to-flu-epidemic-of-1918.htmlI've been studying the globalist for 25 years now and I think for America at least (and possibly the entire world) it's just about over with, and here's why.... I think that most of the people with more than 2 correctly firing synapses here can agree that there are some incredibly sociopathic elitist banking/industrialist whatever family's that control vast amounts of the most of the cookies here on the big blue marble. It has been easily proven that with their vast resources,foundations, control of media,academia and their own publications ect that they are able to guide public and political thought and or laws to achieve their goals which is total control and domination of the world and at this point they are a hairs breath away from said goal and most here on the Daily Paul are still in la la land not even comprehending that they (globalist) have unleashed their endgame which will make it possible for them to take TOTAL COMPLETE CONTROL. Here's my observation: Around 1995 I was reading the local paper in my hometown (referenced from the LA Times) and it was an article how the original 1918 flu virus (live/viable full intact DNA strand) was recovered in South America from the bodies of 2 German nationals that had died during that pandemic, full DNA strand intact and it was now in the hands of CDC/WHO. A friend of mine was there and I said this isn't good that they recovered this.I have googled for reference to this article on the internet for years trying every kind of word variation to find the announcement of this discovery to no avail and actually called the LA Times research desk, paid them to do an indepth search and they said the article never existed??? (just talked to another friend of mine last week that specifically remembers reading this article when it was in the newspaper). All references currently found on the internet regarding H1N1 in my opinion are lies as to the discovery of partial strand recovered from Alaska ect. And how Jeffery K. Taubenberger and his team rebuilt partial fragments and completed the dna sequence in 2003 are bull, they had the whole H1N1 virus intact years prior and were already weaponizing it and that is what was unleashed on the world that started in Mexico and has "mysteriously" spread all over the globe in lightning fashion and now we are in stage 6 pandemic. There are 4 types of flu in this strain: 1. Asian Swine Flu 2.European Swine Flu 3.Avian Flu 4.Human Flu All 4 in 1 proves without a doubt that this came from a lab because this is impossible for these four to combine in nature.That's what scientist/virologist's that are not afraid to speak out have stated....impossible. CDC quote: "We've never seen anything like this before" well duh........... So you take all the totalitarian legislation in "The Patriot Act" plus all the individual state laws that have been or are being written and rammed through. Plus all the executive orders and directives ect. Then you take a look at all the millions of coffin/coffin liners and Fema camps and what do you get??? Death to those that succumb to this man made pandemic and believe you me this one is going to be worse than anything in your wildest dreams when it comes back this fall and if you know your ass from a hole in the ground concerning flu viruses you'll know this to be a fact. At a minimum segregation in camps for refusal to take vaccination at a maximum death penalty. Take the vaccine death either from a bad reaction or the slow acting goodies designed to kill you later (fast acting leukemia or something similar inserted into vaccine) The vaccines are being built now by the millions as I write this and guess who gets it first??? Your CHILDREN THIS FALL AT SCHOOL. Am I paranoid, no just paying attention and if I'm wrong and we are all here come mid winter you can all heckle and razz me to your hearts content. PROVE ME WRONG AND/OR MAKE SUGGESTIONS HOW TO PUT A STOP TO THIS IF YOU AGREE
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2009, 11:48:04 AM » |
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Ghost, I truly hear what you are saying.
It has been foretold that in 2010, millions would die from a flu virus. What I heard, 30 years ago, in this foretelling, was that the virus was man-made and that it possibly originates from moon rocks that were brought back. So far, "man-made" and "2010" are right on. It would seem that it would start this fall and be in full swing during this coming winter of 2009-2010.
My grandmother (then, 18-years-old) went through the 1918 flu pandemic. Her 23-year-old sister died from it, leaving three small children. My grandmother said that people dropped dead like flies in the street. When I asked her about that statement she said: "People would develop flu symptoms and in 2 - 2.5 hours later, they would fall dead. They would be trying to make their way to the hospital, or wherever, walking, unable to drive, seeking help..."
I believe the vaccine itself, is the driver and means of delivery for the flu. Why else would it be "mandatory?" Why would they "develop a virus" and then come up with a "vaccine" for prevention? You see?
It's pretty good to "mandatorily" vaccinate the kids in school. Then, they come home & spread it...
An easier, cheaper way than a vaccine (for a legitimate regime) would be for everyone to prepare for two-three weeks in food, etc. and stay home. Gee, $8.5 billion might go a long way in supporting ~this~ instead of China's population whatevers.
But, we are fighting nwo. And, there will be survivors of the flu who develop antibodies, naturally. I'm sure there is more to the vaccine cocktail to take care of them -- later.
Then, there is the horrific grieving, trauma & devastation familys will experience in dealing with the aftermath. This is what truly brings a society to non-functioning & unproductiveness. America was wonderful, in not experiencing these things of diseases when we had our real & untainted vaccinations. Our society was not ravaged by plagues, so much, like in other countries.
I am undecided what to do at this point. Catch it? Go to the hospital? Have Tamiflu on hand? Vaccinate? I have to be very careful in my estimations because my husband will rely upon what information I give to him. We'll probably make a decision together and execute it together.
I asked him to ask his work if they had any "plan" about the upcoming flu. Nope. Business as usual. ?? I guess we're all on our own.
But, I am leery of a vaccination that all are supposed to get when the flu itself was manufactured. Is it to make money? Do we pay for the mandatory vaccination?
I am open to solutions, as well.
On an "up" note -- millions of deaths is, in reality, not many. Bad flu, yes, but not humanity-wiping-out.
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2009, 11:51:14 AM » |
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If this is truly it than so be it. My motto has always been "the only thing scarier than the apocalypse is business as usual".
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2009, 11:58:14 AM » |
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You sure its South America and not Alaska?
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2009, 12:19:26 PM » |
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Another way to view this.
It could be a "conditioning." Like this: See? Our wonderful nwo government "saved" you with a vaccine -- only millions died, and not you. Then, we have a peoples grateful to and support of their government.
Indeed, they do need more time, apathy & cooperation to fully-instill their control grid. There is the rest of the world to think about in this endeavor. I wonder how they would tie disarming the public to the killer flu scenario? So, a killer flu that wipes out the less-well or those with pre-existing medical conditions could easily result in a high number of millions -- therefore, impressive. Maybe this is why the vaccine is mandatory -- gives nwo credibility in "saving us!"
As info warriors, we might be planning to be discredited in the above-scenario where nwo is being found "wonderful," and have plans to counter our being discredited.
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2009, 12:26:33 PM » |
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Indeed, they do need more time, apathy & cooperation to fully-instill their control grid. You know that's probably true. But honestly? I've noticed something about the NWO. They are fools. Smart in many ways yes, patient at times yes, but for some reason I don't think they WANT to wait; whether it would be in their favor or not. However they justify it to themselves that they should "act now before the people wake up/whatever term they have for it!" or whatever. I don't think the current people in charge want to wait for their children to get the power. They want it for themselves. They can taste how close they are to getting all they dreamed of. That kind of inspired hunger leads to mistakes and impatience. Whether or not that hunger, and their justifications are enough to push it through to the next level or not, remains to be seen. The overall plan might still be on track, and aside from being foolish, they tend also to be inflexible.
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There is no "gray" when it comes to what is good or evil, it is always black and white. People have the potential to be as evil as Hitler, or as good as Gandhi or MLK Jr. However, most people are more like zebras.
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2009, 12:38:37 PM » |
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Ghost of T,
I have realized & seen the exact same thing! It is the nature of the psychopath and they are indeed, drooling over what to them seems to be so close at hand. They actually become ecstatic and seem to pant with breathless excitement over the thought of it.
But. Just like us -- do they really know what to expect & what the results will be?
We have an edge over them. It is our humaness & having feelings. They have no feelings & don't know what they are. They make mistakes about "us" in this area. They don't know how to predict what we are about or what we'll do because we have feelings. Even for us who have feelings (lol !) we can be unpredictable, no?
So, we do have this edge! How to maximize it, I do not know. Maybe purposely act out of the ordinary? The very Evil they are made of, may be their own undoing!
So. In haste and wickedness, they unleash a man-made killer flu with a vaccine to counter it. hmmm. I say, no vaccine.
But, what is more weighty in the scenarios we see? Their haste? They do plan pretty good -- centuries worth at a time. Or, their need for credibility to be sure their plans work?
I just don't know. But, we do need to think about things in all areas -- from their viewpoint. We can do this, and they can to an extent with us. But, they lack the ability to fully understand us in a most basic area that influences us - our feelings. We do have this edge albeit possibly slight? Maybe it is a huger edge than we know!
I do know this. They are psychopaths and exhibit the profile, intensely and distinctly. As such, unbelievably, they do not have, nor do they understand "feelings & emotions."
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2009, 12:39:06 PM » |
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You sure its South America and not Alaska?
My understanding is they dug up bodies of whalers who were buried in the Alaskan permafrost.
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War Is Peace - Freedom Is Slavery - Ignorance Is Strength
"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2009, 01:07:25 PM » |
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My understanding is they dug up bodies of whalers who were buried in the Alaskan permafrost.
thats what ive uncovered, i havent read anything anywhere about South America and Germans. Well, except in conspiracy theories. 
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2009, 01:19:24 PM » |
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"I believe the vaccine itself, is the driver and means of delivery for the flu. Why else would it be "mandatory?" Why would they "develop a virus" and then come up with a "vaccine" for prevention? You see?"
This is exactly what I have been saying. There is NO vaccine cure!
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2009, 02:23:16 PM » |
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Wouldn't it be nice to see Obamas kids take random vaccine shots at a public school, include the remaining regime in that. Line up their kids, and bring them to a serfs school, randomly giving them the Ol' vaccine. What a dream! Ok, FK the vaccines, and keep you kids and family alive.
Trus these bags of shiite, Uh Uh, not for over 40 years.
PS. great FN posts on this one.
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2009, 03:20:35 PM » |
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get the people deliberately so scared of vaccines that most refuse them and then pull a 180 and actually release a real pandemic so that only the ones in the know survive by having a real vaccine....
sorry im just trying to think like a globalist....... the old problem (us) reaction (deliberately leaked vaccine conspiracies) solution (the above).
just a thought... and sorry for the head f**k.
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my kids are not cannon fodder for the n.w.o!
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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2009, 03:58:43 PM » |
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get the people deliberately so scared of vaccines that most refuse them and then pull a 180 and actually release a real pandemic so that only the ones in the know survive by having a real vaccine....
sorry im just trying to think like a globalist....... the old problem (us) reaction (deliberately leaked vaccine conspiracies) solution (the above).
just a thought... and sorry for the head f**k.
funny. I was thinking the same thing.
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2009, 04:36:20 PM » |
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get the people deliberately so scared of vaccines that most refuse them and then pull a 180 and actually release a real pandemic so that only the ones in the know survive by having a real vaccine....
sorry im just trying to think like a globalist....... the old problem (us) reaction (deliberately leaked vaccine conspiracies) solution (the above).
just a thought... and sorry for the head f**k.
Sure, but why give out actual vaccines to anyone not in the know? That is, give out bad vaccines to the masses, while also infecting people with the created virus. A "damned if you do, damned if you don't" type of thing.
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There is no "gray" when it comes to what is good or evil, it is always black and white. People have the potential to be as evil as Hitler, or as good as Gandhi or MLK Jr. However, most people are more like zebras.
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2009, 05:37:04 PM » |
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funny. I was thinking the same thing.
That is frightning, using children, one way or another they win, is that basically the case. What is the solution: Speculation. Demand chemical analysis with the backing of a group of Doctors involved, and a few attorneys around. Several private clinics arranged beforehand. ORGANIZE. Lets face it after all the problems faced with school vaccinations leading to serious health problems, even to the point of autism, we have rights as human beings and parents to question and investigate. Organization is the key, backup, legaly and medically. With legal advisors handy ask the adminstering health personell to take the injection first, they will say they had of course, Inquire if they have children and bring them in for random vaccines. Parents, even if in the monority have the right to know what is in these vaccines I have read that doctors will not take them, nor nurses, paramedics, it casues a pause, a moment of lucidity as to why. You guys have come up with a plausible scenario, check it out, stand up, save your kids. SURVIVE. Banding together is the backbone of this nation, and of any movement, I for one would not allow this to take place untill I knew exactly what was to be injected into my child. They pour flouride in our drinking water and who knows what else, they chemtrail us, what would be the most insidious method, injections. Shiiite, I simply do not trust them. Our children need a chance to have a life, its up to us they do.
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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2009, 05:51:23 PM » |
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already storing food and supplies at a families property (Australia) the day they succeed in anti 2nd amendment legislation in the U.S is my signal to move to that property. 
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my kids are not cannon fodder for the n.w.o!
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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2009, 12:00:55 AM » |
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My grandmother (then, 18-years-old) went through the 1918 flu pandemic. Her 23-year-old sister died from it, leaving three small children. My grandmother said that people dropped dead like flies in the street. When I asked her about that statement she said: "People would develop flu symptoms and in 2 - 2.5 hours later, they would fall dead. They would be trying to make their way to the hospital, or wherever, walking, unable to drive, seeking help..."
I read an article a couple of years ago, listed on Rense I think, about the use of Aspirin during flu. Link is below. I'm not sure if that is the exact same article, but it's close enough. Seems that during the 1918 pandemic, aspirin was being advertised as fever reducing. This made people feel better in the short term, but what really happened (according to the article) was that while the fever was down, the virus was left to run rampant in the body. http://blogs.healthfreedomalliance.org/blog/2009/05/04/did-aspirin-help-spread-the-1918-flu-pandemic/
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« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2009, 12:39:20 AM » |
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lol rights as human beings.. were slaves... Its end game time ppl, they aren't having drills 4 sh!ts and giggles.. Theres a chopper over my house now every hour.. Never was like this, Sh1t is going down real soon... All I can say is I hope the Lord has mercy on my soul, actually thats greedy I hope he has mercy on everyone.. Sh1t who knows maybe we'll be saved by grace of God sh1t Hr1207 does have 260 signers...
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« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2009, 01:00:14 AM » |
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I believe a space unicorn* will return to Planet Ergot to save the day and unleash totally eradicating unicorn manure upon those vested interests who've been meddling in their genetic manipulation project for the last 200, 000 years. Everyone*, beware the glowing horn of the prodigal space unicorn.  * this has been a test transmission brought to you by the Predictive Programming Filter Test Unit - let's see if this 'inspires' NWO reports of space unicorns in the MSM - that would be funny as horse doodoo on their chin.
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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2009, 01:13:11 AM » |
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I believe a space unicorn* will return to Planet Ergot to save the day and unleash totally eradicating unicorn manure upon those vested interests who've been meddling in their genetic manipulation project for the last 200, 000 years. Everyone*, beware the glowing horn of the prodigal space unicorn.  * this has been a test transmission brought to you by the Predictive Programming Filter Test Unit - let's see if this 'inspires' NWO reports of space unicorns in the MSM - that would be funny as horse doodoo on their chin. Sh1t I'd believe in Larry the unicorn over joe the plumber at this point 
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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2009, 01:16:34 AM » |
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I never said his name was Larry.... what do you know that we don't? 
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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2009, 10:18:23 AM » |
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already storing food and supplies at a families property (Australia) the day they succeed in anti 2nd amendment legislation in the U.S is my signal to move to that property.  Good, keep your kids alive and free bro. I worked around this globe, finaly bought my kids to South America, why, same reason as you. I will not allow my kids to die for elite profiteers, or cannon fodder as your say. Guess you could say I fell down the rabbit hole about 40 years ago.
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« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2009, 12:32:06 PM » |
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Good, keep your kids alive and free bro. I worked around this globe, finaly bought my kids to South America, why, same reason as you. I will not allow my kids to die for elite profiteers, or cannon fodder as your say. Guess you could say I fell down the rabbit hole about 40 years ago.
(Just some levitee) You know... it strikes me that this is a really big rabbit what dug this hole.
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There is no "gray" when it comes to what is good or evil, it is always black and white. People have the potential to be as evil as Hitler, or as good as Gandhi or MLK Jr. However, most people are more like zebras.
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« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2009, 02:17:37 PM » |
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(Just some levitee) You know... it strikes me that this is a really big rabbit what dug this hole.
Seeing through the looking glass, yup . It was Nam that dug the hole. Even in those days the regimes were on a roll. Shiite bro, its not unlike the social climate today. The writing has been on the walls for decades. 3 million of the Viet folks were slaughtered, along with about 65,000 of Americans sons. Kind of an eye opener. Fact is I was catching on to these shiites when they waked out the 3K's. We would all war to be free, side by side, put our lives on the line for freedom, you bet, but for the rich mans profit, killing for them, Uh UH. This world order has been moving in stages for many a FN decade. Met a guy, a Nam Vet, he had been a gung ho patriotic trooper fighting for the illusion of democracy, God and country so called, killed many , highly decorated, he woke up. He has never set foot on American soil since the war, and will not be buried there. The rabbit hole is one long and deep Fker. These rabid,sadistic,tribe or sociopathic parasites have been knawing on Americas bones for longer than I can remember.
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« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2009, 02:22:46 PM » |
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IMO we are in no worse or better shape than we were during the nuclear build up and disarmament failure of the eighties. the world was on a nuclear hair trigger then, and I never thought my children would grow up.
Now we are on a biowarfare hair trigger.
The challenge, as always my friends, whether it's hordes of invading Vikings raping and pillaging your village (destroying your known world) nuclear proliferation with too many itchy fingered leaders on the red button, Weimar Republic realities, or the eve of an engineered pandemic, the challenge is:
fight lies with truth hatred with love
get your spiritual house in order, that's always been our job. It's why we're here. Use whatever excuse you need. The world will go on. The earth is a training ground. Learn!
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« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2009, 02:37:29 PM » |
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IMO get your spiritual house in order, that's always been our job. It's why we're here. Use whatever excuse you need. The world will go on. The earth is a training ground.The earth is a training ground.
Learn!
You have that right, good on you. My sentiments exactly.
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