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« on: July 09, 2009, 01:36:54 PM »

I have heard Alex and others talk about Aaron Russo's discussions with Nicholas Rockefeller about 9/11, chips and the NWO.  I am trying to find information about Nicholas Rockefeller -- namely what is his relationship to David Rockefeller and where does Nick fit in the Rockefeller family tree? 

The only information I can find after Google searching all recite back to some site allegedly put up by Nicholas Rockefeller who is a California attorney and the head of a Rockvest Development Company.  There is also reference that he was a partner with Perkins Coie.  I did a search of the Perkins Coie attorney directory and no Nicholas Rockefeller is listed.  The California State Bar page provides a landline phone number and P.O. Box, but no firm affiliation.  Perhaps he just wants to be anonymous.

http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/member_detail.aspx?x=165922

I've looked at the "official" Nicholas Rockefeller sites (http://www.nicholasrockefeller.org/wikipedia/) and I cannot find a verifiable source other than this page and a couple of pages that refer right back to this page.  I even did a WHOIS of the website and no information was really provided.

Domain ID:D141454528-LROR
Domain Name:NICHOLASROCKEFELLER.ORG
Created On:13-Mar-2007 13:58:24 UTC
Last Updated On:25-Mar-2009 20:05:34 UTC
Expiration Date:13-Mar-2011 13:58:24 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, Inc. (R91-LROR)
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Registrant ID:GODA-056940568
Registrant Name:Eric Siegel
Registrant Organization:Cyberstrux, Inc.
Registrant Street1:PO Box 1060
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Registrant City:Woodstock
Registrant State/Province:Georgia
Registrant Postal Code:30189
Registrant Country:US
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Registrant Email:cyberstrux@yahoo.com
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Admin Name:Eric Siegel
Admin Organization:Cyberstrux, Inc.
Admin Street1:PO Box 1060
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Admin City:Woodstock
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Does anyone know where Nicholas Rockefeller fits on the Rockefeller family tree?


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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2009, 02:16:21 PM »

Check this out:
http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=391
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2009, 02:38:51 PM »


Thanks for that link.  I've checked out some of those sites re: Nicholas and they seem to quote the same information and lead back to the same sites.  Further, Nicholas' information has been scrubbed from the RAND, Perkins/Coie and Pacific Council on International Policy.  Also, Nicholas is not listed on the Rockefeller family page on Wikipedia though many other Rockefellers are mentioned:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockefeller_family

Who is Nicholas Rockefeller's daddy?

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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2009, 02:39:58 PM »

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Nicholas Rockefeller -- namely what is his relationship to David Rockefeller and where does Nick fit in the Rockefeller family tree?


Correct, this has never been pinned down. But, he walks like duck, talks like a duck, so he might as well be a duck.
And according to Russo he WAS CONNECTED.

Nicholas Rockefeller

His clients include several multinational companies and many succesful technology ventures throughout the world. His securities practice includes litigation before the United States Supreme Court and a number of his transactions have been featured in leading periodicals. He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, the International Insitutute of Strategic Studies, the Advisory Board of RAND, the Pacific Council on International Policy, the Committee on Foreign Relations in Los Angeles, the Western Justice Center, and has served as a participant in the World Economic Forum and the Aspen Institute. He is a member of the Board of Visitors of the Law Schools of the University of Oregon and Pepperdine University and is active in the affairs of his alma mater, Yale University. He recently chaired a panel at the United Nations on E-Commerce and is a co-author of "Economic Strategy and National Security."
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2009, 03:19:13 PM »

Interesting thread:
http://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=32483&start=25&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
Rockefeller Reveals 9/11 FRAUD to Aaron Russo

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Well, he certainly is not part of 'the family' in the sense that he descends from the good old billionaire Rockefeller. He might be a distant relative.

So he might be part of the family? He is actually related to the Rockefellers but is not a family member...That kinda contradicts your first statement IMO.

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No, it doesn't. John Davison Rockefeller, Sr. - the man who founded the Standard Oil Company is who all the members of the Rockefeller's descend from. That is, the 'powerful' Rockefeller family. Now, it is entirely possible that that Rockefeller had a brother, and that this Nicholas descends from that brother, but he is not part of the lineage tracing back to John Davison Rockefeller, who have all the power. He's an outsider to that family. Considering he has the same name, it is possible there is some relation, but he is no family member.

There is no reason to believe that he has any insight in the alleged conspiratorial agenda of the Rockefeller's beyond them sharing the last name.

http://www.factnet.org/vbpayme/showthread.php?p=375268

“Trained Observer” -- It would have to be proven that Nicholas Rockefeller actually had a meeting with Aaron Russo and told him these things. First of all, who is Nicholas Rockefeller? It seems to be difficult to get any information about him. How is he related to THE Rockefeller family? I can’t find anything about that on the web. I’m beginning to think that he has no connection to the famous Rockefellers at all.
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http://www.iiss.org/

There is a Nicholas Rockefeller listed at RAND as a “doner patron,” and as being on the RAND Center for Asia Pacific Policy Advisory Board. He’s listed as a “partner at Perkins Coie LLP.” Then we come to a full circle, with no evidence that Nicholas Rockefeller is related the THE Rockefellers. It’s all very suspicious. The only place where I find a connection with Nelson and David and the rest of THOSE Rockefellers is at conspiracy websites. Why do you think this is?

If you can find any connection with Nicholas Rockefeller to the famous Rockefeller family then you are a better researcher than I. Until then, I have very strong doubts about Aaron Russo's account. Therefore, I have no reason to believe Aaron Russo.

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I thought this might be of some interest.
It seems no one else has come up with any evidence he is part of THE Rockefeller family either.
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Comment: The WSJ says, "Nicholas Rockefeller declined to say where in the Rockefeller family he fits. But the family's patriarch, David Rockefeller, said through an associate that he doesn't recall ever meeting Nicholas. The relationship 'is probably quite distant, seventh or eighth cousins,' according to the associate, Peter Johnson." Not quite "absolute zero" but also not quite "documentation", IMHO.--Thomas Basboll 11:11, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2009, 03:48:17 PM »

So what if they're distant cousins... he has rockefeller blood in him ... and these people are so inbred that 7th coussin could mean anything....

The queen and prince philip are third coussins lol!
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2009, 04:13:31 PM »

Any chance Nick Rockefeller could be like "Clark" Rockefeller? 

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?page=1&id=7790834
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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2009, 06:32:49 PM »

Sometimes I wonder if Nick is a real person but he is,  I did find a real article in ther NYT and an SEC filing:

Note it is NOT at all clear that RockVest is a Rockefeller family business. We can also say that he is a California Lawyer.

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/08/03/business/international-business-asian-luxury-hotel-is-near-a-rare-sale.html
INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS; Asian Luxury Hotel Is Near a Rare Sale
By WAYNE ARNOLD
Published: Tuesday, August 3, 1999

In a relatively small deal with broad implications, an investment firm connected with the Rockefeller family appears set to buy a luxury hotel on the island of Bali from a company controlled by one of Indonesia's own wealthy industrial dynasties, according to people close to the buyer and seller.

Surya Semesta Internusa, a company controlled by the Suriadjaya family of Indonesia, plans to sell the 500-room Melia Bali hotel to Trenwith Holdings Ltd. for approximately $50 million, one of the informants said. Trenwith is a joint venture 70 percent owned by Rockvest Development, a Rockefeller trust controlled by Nicholas Rockefeller, a California lawyer.

More than the names of the buyer and seller, the deal is important because big real estate transactions in Asia, particularly any involving prominent hotels, have been extremely rare, even with the Asian economic crisis severely hurting the hotel business.

Luxury hotels are considered business trophies that symbolize success, and Asian owners try to keep them regardless of their own financial problems. From that perspective, the sale of the Melia Bali may signal the sales of other big hotels in Asia. Reached by telephone, a spokeswoman for Surya Semesta said the company had not signed any agreements, and she rejected requests for interviews. One person said Surya Semesta had already signed a sales agreement and another said other prospective buyers who met with the company's vice president and director, Johannes Suriadjaya, last week in Jakarta were told that the hotel had already been sold.

Trenwith also did not respond to repeated requests for interviews, and Mr. Rockefeller could not be reached for comment.
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A version of this article appeared in print on Tuesday, August 3, 1999, on section C page 4 of the New York edition.


On the American Bar Association website:
http://www.abanet.org/buslaw/newsletter/0052/materials/pp1.pdf

Financial Developments in Asia and the Pacific Rim August 5, 2006
Panelists:
Nicholas Rockefeller, principal, Rockvest Group; former partner, Perkins Coie

http://www.digeratti.com/bio.html
Welcome to DIGERATTI, the online portfolio of Elysée A. Alexander. The pages you are about to view, include art work I created from 1985 though 1996.

Private Collections  - Nicholas Rockefeller


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As filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on May 20, 1999
US SEARCH.COM INC.
Amendment No. 1  To  FORM S-1  REGISTRATION STATEMENT  Under  The Securities Act of 1933

THE COMPANY

US SEARCH was incorporated in November 1994. Our principal executive offices are located at: 9107 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 700, Beverly Hills, CA 90210,
(310) 553-7000. Our principal Web site address is www.1800ussearch.com. Prior to this offering, Kushner-Locke, the selling stockholder beneficially owned 86% of our stock. Information contained on our Web site does not constitute part of this prospectus. After the offering, Kushner-Locke will own 55.2% of US SEARCH and will likely still have significant influence over us. We do not anticipate paying any cash dividends in the forseeable future.

Overview

US SEARCH provides clients with a single, comprehensive access point to a broad range of public record information about individuals. Our services can be accessed from anywhere and at any time through our Web site, 1800USSEARCH.com, or by calling our toll free telephone number, 1-800 U.S. SEARCH.
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The following is a summary of some of the key features of our Internet marketing alliances and other marketing agreements:
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We are currently the network closed captioning sponsor for CNBC and regularly appear on other cable networks including MSNBC, CNN and CNN Headline News

The executive officers, directors and key employees of US SEARCH and their ages as of March 31, 1999, are as follows:

       Name                 Age                    Position
       ----                 ---                    --------
C. Nicholas Keating, Jr....  57 President, Chief Executive Officer and Director
William G. Langley.........  49 Vice President--Chief Financial Officer
Robert J. Richards.........  45 Vice President--Operations
Meg Shea-Chiles............  44 Vice President--Business Development
Alan S. Mazursky...........  40 Vice President--Finance
Nicholas Matzorkis.........  36 Founder
Peter Locke(2).............  55 Co-Chairman and Director
Donald Kushner(1)..........  54 Co-Chairman and Director
Nicholas Rockefeller(2)....  42 Director
Russell I. Pillar(2).......  33 Director
Harry B. Chandler(1).......  45 Director
Alan C. Mendelson(1).......  51 Director


Nicholas Rockefeller has served as one of our directors since February 1999. Mr. Rockefeller is an attorney with the law firm of Troop Meisinger Steuber Pasich Reddick & Tobey, LLP, and has been with the firm since June 1997, prior to which he was engaged in the private practice of law for ten years. Mr. Rockefeller also serves as a Managing Partner of the Rockvest Development Group and its affiliate, the Rockefeller International Fund, which supervises investments in publicly traded securities and private enterprises and maintains an active venture capital portfolio. Mr. Rockefeller is also Chairman of Rockefeller Asia, a financial services company, and is a Managing Director of Trenwith Holdings, a merchant bank. Mr. Rockefeller is a member of the California and Washington, D.C. bars, and holds a J.D. from Yale Law School. Mr. Rockefeller is the trustee of the trust established pursuant to a stockholders' agreement between Mr. Matzorkis and Kushner-Locke and is serving as the director designated by the trust pursuant to the stockholders' agreement. See "Certain Relationships and Related Transactions--Other Agreements".
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In 1990, Mr. Matzorkis plead guilty to a fourth degree felony as a result of providing false identification information in connection with the purchase of an automobile, was given a suspended sentence and ordered to serve 200 hours of community service. In 1997, Mr. Matzorkis was arrested for having failed to complete his community service. Mr. Matzorkis subsequently completed this community service. Mr. Matzorkis no longer serves as an officer or director of US SEARCH and placed all of his shares in an irrevocable trust for the benefit of his family, other than himself, and does not have discretionary authority over the administration or control of the trust or the disposition of the shares held in the trust.
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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2009, 07:13:27 PM »

A real RAND document 2007 Annual report:

http://www.rand.org/pubs/annual_reports/2008/RAND_AR7127.pdf

Rand - NATIONAL SECURITY RESEARCH DIVISION Annual Report 2007
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RAND Center for Asia Pacific Policy Advisory Board
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Nicholas Rockefeller
International Attorney and Advisor to the
RockVest Group of Investors & Rockefeller Pacific Ventures
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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2009, 07:26:46 PM »

A real RAND document 2007 Annual report:

http://www.rand.org/pubs/annual_reports/2008/RAND_AR7127.pdf

Rand - NATIONAL SECURITY RESEARCH DIVISION Annual Report 2007
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RAND Center for Asia Pacific Policy Advisory Board
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Nicholas Rockefeller
International Attorney and Advisor to the
RockVest Group of Investors & Rockefeller Pacific Ventures


Good research.

Here's another link with references to Nick Rockefeller forming Trenwith Holdings back in 1997...

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P3-23165368.html
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2009, 07:58:08 PM »

A real RAND document 2007 Annual report:

http://www.rand.org/pubs/annual_reports/2008/RAND_AR7127.pdf

Rand - NATIONAL SECURITY RESEARCH DIVISION Annual Report 2007
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RAND Center for Asia Pacific Policy Advisory Board
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Nicholas Rockefeller
International Attorney and Advisor to the
RockVest Group of Investors & Rockefeller Pacific Ventures


Heres one mor RAND report circa 2001 with his name in it...
http://www.rand.org/about/annual_report/2001/nsrd01.pdf

I once posted a picture of a Rockefeller family tree here Ill find it again..
muhuhuhuhahahaha it only took 20 mins to find... cer ap that was a rothschild tree! here a Roccky family pic though

from
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=109124.msg670307#msg670307


heres a promising looking page..
http://www.nicholasrockefeller.net/

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Nicholas Rockefeller

Nicholas Rockefeller is vice chairman and chief legal officer of the RockVest Group of
Investors and is involved in various banking and commercial projects in China and
worldwide.   
 
He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, the International Institute of
Strategic Studies, the Advisory Board of RAND, the Corporate Advisory Board of the
Pacific Council on International Relations, the Board of the Western Justice Center
Foundation, and the Central China Development Council and has served as a participant
in the World Economic Forum and the Aspen Institute.  He also serves as a director of the
Pacific Rim Cultural Foundation, and is a member of the boards of visitors of the law
schools of the University of Oregon and of Pepperdine University.
 
Nicholas’ China practice includes transactions with China’s largest banks, energy
companies, communications entities and real estate enterprises as well as with China’s
principal cities and leading provinces.  He was chosen as a board member of the Central
China Construction and Development Commission and as a director of the Xiwai
International School of Shanghai International University. He has appeared numerous
times on CCTV and other China media. 
 
Nicholas is a graduate of Yale University and of Yale Law School.

heres some more
http://www.123people.com/s/nicholas+rockefeller


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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2009, 08:20:52 PM »

Yale Graduate? A Skull & Bones connection?
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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2009, 09:06:47 PM »

So at least we've verified that he is connected.

Yale Graduate? A Skull & Bones connection?

S&B unknown....
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holds a J.D. from Yale Law School.

I've seen where it is alluded to him being connected to the "Rockefeller Group" companies. I haven't found him on any executive lists or associated with any of the executives. The Rockefeller Group is owned by the Mitsubishi Estate Company.

http://www.rgts.com/about/rockefeller_group.html

Since 1989 Mitsubishi Estate Company, Limited, a world leader in real estate development, ownership and management, has wholly owned The Rockefeller Group. There are five operating companies within the organization: Rockefeller Group Development Corporation, Rockefeller Group Technology Solutions, Inc., Rockefeller Group Business Centers, Inc., Cushman & Wakefield, Inc., Commonwealth Partners, LLC.
www.rockefellergroup.com

Rockefeller Group Technology Solutions, Inc., provides and manages a broad range of communications services for businesses. The company’s emphasis is on delivering high-quality service and support to its clients and it does so by providing a “single point of contact.”
www.rgts.com

Rockefeller Group Development Corporation is a national owner, developer, and manager of prestigious commercial real estate properties. The company’s capabilities are broad, having been applied to an array of real estate developments, including corporate headquarters, landmark properties, multi-use urban complexes, multinational distribution facilities, suburban business parks, and foreign trade zones.
www.rockgroupdevelopment.com

Rockefeller Group Business Centers, Inc., provides fully staffed and furnished premier executive suites and offices. Tenants can rent offices by the day, week, month, or other convenient terms. Accommodations feature the most complete, technologically advanced office environments in prominently known and prestigous locations.
www.rgbc.com

Rockefeller Group Investment Management, LLC., is a newly created subsidiary that will ultimately coordinate all investment management activities for The Rockefeller Group and will raise funds to underwrite a greatly expanded real estate development program.
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2009, 10:52:16 PM »

We could always just call him at the number listed by the California State Bar website.  I wonder if Nick will show us his birth certificate. 

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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2011, 01:25:54 PM »

anyone find him
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« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2011, 07:18:42 AM »

Here is is contact information.
Feel free to give him a call. Say your studying the rockefeller family tree and your intrested in interviewing him.
http://investing.businessweek.com/businessweek/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=759648&privcapId=21813173&previousCapId=205573&previousTitle=NOKIA%20OYJ
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« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2011, 07:55:22 AM »

what do you bet RAND planned the whole op
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« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2011, 11:34:26 AM »

see also the background history of RAND:  
Origins of RAND - Tuxedo Park - Alfred Lee Loomis  

http://www.rand.org/about/history/
In May 1946, the first RAND report appeared, Preliminary Design of an Experimental World-Circling Spaceship
http://www.rand.org/pubs/special_memoranda/SM11827/

Geithner laughed at in his speech in China this weekend ...

Currently we have the "Pacific Council" with Nick Nicholas Rockefeller ...

Nicholas Rockefeller

http://www.nicholasrockefeller.org/

His clients include several multinational companies and many succesful technology ventures throughout the world.

His securities practice includes litigation before the United States Supreme Court and a number of his transactions have been featured in leading periodicals. He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, the International Insitutute of Strategic Studies, the Advisory Board of RAND,

the Pacific Council on International Policy, the Committee on Foreign Relations in Los Angeles, the Western Justice Center, and has served as a participant in the World Economic Forum and the Aspen Institute. He is a member of the Board of Visitors of the Law Schools of the University of Oregon and Pepperdine University and is active in the affairs of his alma mater, Yale University. He recently chaired a panel at the United Nations on E-Commerce and is a co-author of "Economic Strategy and National Security."


Nicholas Rockefeller, Mao Dong Sheng, Nicholas Matzorkis, William Choi

Also we will touch on the current Rockefeller front groups since the  "Institute of Pacific Relations (IPR)",  the "U.S. Asia Pacific Council". Also Paulsons favorite foundation "The Nature Conservancy" and "Wildlife Conservation Society"  which he given 100 million to and has pledged his 700 million dollar fortune and his son sits as a trustee.

It also shows why someone like Vinod (Vinnie) Aggarwal would be invited to Bilderberg to "consult" on strategy and his connection to Paulson's close relationship to China and connections to Kissinger (associates).


http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Rockefeller_Nicholas_13197185.aspx

http://www.hawaiipoliticalinfo.org/?q=node/272

Aaron Russo on Crisis in American Freedom
Nick Rockefeller does exist, although he seems to prefer anonymity to fame. Information on him a few months ago on the Pacific Council website, but that seems to no longer be available there, is that he is a permanent member of the Council on Foreign Relations, and is a co-author of Economic Strategy & National Security: A Next Generation Approach, which is a Council on Foreign Relations book. A look at Amazon's website locates the book, but Nicholas Rockefeller is not listed as an author. The Pacific Council was "Founded in 1995 in partnership with the Council on Foreign Relations, . . ."

Nick is a China specialist. You can see a photo of him and read briefly about his background here.


Warning ---> Wild speculation to follow....

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Did Rockefeller/NBC/RCA/Time-Life/VOA Create & Manage "Cold War" As PsyOp/Hoax To Hide Huge Rockefeller Tech Transfers To USSR?



WHY ARE THESE MEN (Rockefeller & Kosygin) LAUGHING? in l964? So soon after the "Cuban Missile Crises" and the "Kennedy Assassination".  Some media experts have always suspected that "War of The Worlds" was just a "test market" for content to see how gullible the US audience was to the power of marketing suggestion.  The "Radi0-Play was so successful, it appears Rockefeller and a handful of PsyOps experts created "Cold War of the Worlds" PsyOp scripts years in advance, and published via NBC, Time, Time-Life, CBS and the Movies.

Under the "pretense" of the Cold War, Rockefeller created a "diversion" of the Aerospace Industry as a Cover for hundreds of Billions of Dollars of Trade with Russia and China, as he Electrified both Russia and Parts of China, then built their railroads, Military Industrial Infrastructure and finally their Aerospace and Space systems.  Why NASA? Why Aerospace?

The Rockefeller family has had a "hate-hate" relationship with the Federal Government ever since Ulyses S. Grant stopped John, Sr. from peddling "oil poison" and "Seneca Oil or Snake Oil" in Pennsylvania.  In fact, the US Govt forced Rockefeller, GE and Westinghouse to create RCA organization as a Trust, when the Govt found out Rockefeller was selling "oil" to the UK Navy behind Congresses back and he was trying to sell the Navy's most secret weapon...the Wireless Patents...to the British Navy.

True to his "family's form"...David Rockfeller, may well have continued the family tradition of aiding and abetting the enemies of Democracy in some of the greatest "technology exchanges" since the "Masons" started building Cathedrals.

successful addition to creating the Cold War as a giant "Media Hoax", K G Harr, Jr and  C D Jackson..a leading PsyOp Warfare Expert, wrotes scripts for BioWarfare Hoax.  also It appears that David Rockefeller had the world by the tail.  Even the "Nazca Lines" in Peru and wild stories about UFO's in Roswell and stories about "Russian Evil" may ALL well be part of an elaborate Post-War ruse.

Roswell wouldn't be the first Ruse, created by a Secret Nixon/Eisenhower White House, PsyOp Group, to hide Nelson Rockefeller's $500 Billion sale to Russia of the entire(?) NASA Space Program?  It would appear that NBC, Time, Life and others may have willing participants in hiding the "real USSR" behind a "PsyOps Curtain of DisInformation" to keep Rockefeller's "Trillion Dollar Baby"...a complete secret.

NASA/US ACE/ SigInt were faking Russian "broadcasts"  newscasts?  Part of a "hoax" to Create A "Cold War" called Operation Scar Tissue. (Working File!)  The only drawback is, transferring even "legal" Aerospace Technology also transferred the US Army Corps Infrastructure, Signals and Satellite Technology necessary to manage the systems.  With the Russians in control of our "Communications Back Door"..heaven only knows what they could do with it..such as Shut down the FAA computers, at will which are also part of the US ACE Signals System.

NASA-base PsyOps, even as early as l960, were directed from the Nixon/Eisenhower/Rockefeller White House, "Special Information Group" created by Karl Harr, Jr., Sarnoff , Cutler and J D Jackson of NBC, Time-Life, Fortune..et al.   The past 50 years of History may be "Summarized" by Rockefeller's global manipulations to secure a "monopoly" in the Aerospace and Nuclear industries. (Working Theory).  In fact, Rockefeller was made the Director of the Special Information Group, by Eisenhower.  Because Eisenhower appeared not to Trust the OSS.

 So who was/is Robert Cutler.  Mr. Cutler, was National Security adviser from l953 to 1955.  But who is he REALLY?  Well, Mr. Cutler was VERY active in the "physical psy ops" or "media".  If you read the book "The Day After Roswell" by Philip Corso (a regular on coast to coast?)

Mr. Corso claims that the exact same Robert Cutler, was the person who disseminated the UFO Technology harvested from the l947 Roswell Crash.  I'll bet that if you look at the Roswell coverage  you're going to see a connection between the story and "Time, Inc"; "Time Life"? anyone? Roswell as PSYOP! To infer that the Russians were leaps and bounds ahead of us.  

It seems that Kennedy may have been standing in the way of Rockefeller's "technology sharing" ideas that US military, commercial, industrial complex had insisted on. Johnson, ever the corrupt politician, couldn't wait until Kennedy committed "political suicide" by refusing to approve the deal of the millenia!

What was the "deal of the millenia". Well, let's see..the "Johnson Space Control Center in Houston"? (Built for him by the US Army Corps of Engineers as a Special Thanks!) wasn't that the deal...along with how many hundreds of millions of dollars in Johnson's pocket?

Well, it's all water over the "hoover commission" now. But if you look at that shy bashful..almost lovingly modest smile..embarrassed grin that says.."it's too much". It's the same look my "spouse" has when I give her too much on Christmas. You see, it appears that Johnson sent David (Missing But Un-Dead) Rockefeller and the head of the "Hillary"/Chase Manhattan Bank to give Kosygin the "GREAT NEwS".

What was the GREAT NEWS? WELL, that silly old irishman hadn't been dead too long and Johnson was in a mood to share his "space" program.  Kennedy promised America we would go to the moon and beyond.  It appears the entire "Aerospace" campaign was just a "political nod" and "thank you" to Rockfeller for his "discretion" in refusing to publicize JFK's indiscretion.

It would also appear that this photo commemorated the 1st face-to-face with any American (and I use that term, loosely) since Kennedy refused Kosygin's 1st ever phone call on the "Red Phone" in the White House.  Kosygin was main Soviet Parliament member that took brunt of Kennedy's wrath about Cuba along with threats to "nuke" during the Bay of Pigs (aka "Pre-Kennedy-Assasination-Plot).
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Excellent find... Between  Dulles, Harriman, Meyer - JFK was foobar...

They originally wanted the UN Building on the west coast at Moraga - I'm trying to remember who owned all the land back then, it wasn't Rockefeller but another early Bilderberger. Possibly  Crown- Zellerbach ( now International Paper IP )

Moraga now has many gated communities and many Government types living there....
Update - No it was a Standard Oil Crony  Donald Rheem , so yes Rockefeller owned the Moraga California - UN intended Land.....
 
http://www.wjasper.com/Moragahistory.html
Moraga's History
...
While the Moraga Land Association, Hooper and lastly the Moraga Company had been actively buying and developing most of the rancho over all these years, the only parcel that Carpentier never owned, the Williams parcel, had undergone a number of changes. It had changed hands twice -- first to the Lucas family and then to two young women who had a proposed residence for homeless children built upon it.

It was purchased in 1934 by Donald Rheem, the son of a former President of Standard Oil of California. He added to the estate and ultimately bought 1,650 acres of rancho land which he developed into the Rheem center in 1954 and surrounding subdivisions. The estate, now known as the Hacienda de las Flores, was bought by the Christian Brothers in 1961, the Moraga Park and Recreation Authority in 1973, and the Town of Moraga in 1977.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=Moraga.ca&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

for background:
Bilderberger's in the Kennedy Administration  



JFK Addresses UN

Alger Hiss at UN conference 1945

John F. Kennedy attended the San Francisco conference at which fifty founding
... plus Poland — signed the Charter of the United Nations on June 26, 1945

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/facts-about-john-f-kennedy.html
Interesting Facts About John F Kennedy
... An author before being elected President, he wrote the book 'Profiles in Courage' for which he won the Pulitzer Prize. JFK, an avid reader, was a big fan of James Bond and read Ian Fleming's books. ... . After he retired from the military service as a full lieutenant in March 1945, he worked for a newspaper for several months writing about the United Nations Conference on International Organization in San Francisco, the Potsdam Conference and the British elections of 1945.

The Sequoia Seminars - 1954 - LSD Therapy - History
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKmeyerC.htm

Mary and Cord Meyer on their wedding day (1945)
Cord Meyer
...
On 21st July, 1944, a Japanese grenade was thrown into his foxhole. He was so badly injured that when he was found he was initially declared to be dead. In fact, his commanding officer sent a telegram to his parents announcing he had died. Although he lost his left eye he was eventually well enough to be sent home. Soon afterwards his twin brother, Quentin, was killed at Okinawa.

While recovered in New York City Meyer met the journalist, Mary Pinchot. The couple married on 19th April, 1945. The couple then went to San Francisco to attend the conference that established the United Nations. Cord went as an aide to Harold Stassen, whereas Mary, who was working for the North American Newspaper Alliance at the time, was one of the reporters sent to cover this important event.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rheem,_California
Rheem (also, Rheem Valley[1] and Rheem Center[2]) is an unincorporated community in Contra Costa County, California. It is located 7.5 miles (12 km) north-northwest of Danville,[2] at an elevation of 587 feet (179 m).

The place was named after its developer, Donald I. Rheem, the son of William Rheem, President of Standard Oil Company

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Rheem
William S. Rheem (1862 – April 19, 1919[1]), aka W.S. Rheem, was an important civic figure in the politics of early Richmond, California in addition to being president of Standard Oil.[1]
...
Rheem arrived in Richmond after finding a spot for a new refinery to replace an existing and unexpandable location in Alameda.[2] He picked a spot in the Point Richmond District along the Potrero Hills and the Marshlands

VF-32 Outlaw's Bandits  (Est 1 Jun 1943, Dis 13 Nov 1945) (F6F-3/5)

http://www.maam.org/flightsim/news/tbm_langley.htm


WWII Ace - Navy Cross - Cinqpaq Rear Admiral Ed Cobb Outlaw - tells the truth about Vietnam:

Carriers in combat the air war at sea - Vietnam - By Chester G. Hearn

Rolling Thunder - Cambodian supply depots off limits - SOVIET SA-2 SAM sites shot down 115 american planes
"We were restrained to carrying out a campaign which seemed designed NOT to win" because RUSSIAN technicians might be killed.
McNamara did not allow pilots to attack any installation where MIG's were based.

Soviet SA-2 SAM


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-75_Dvina
The S-75 Dvina (Russian: С-75; NATO reporting name SA-2 Guideline) is a Soviet-designed, high-altitude, command guided, surface-to-air missile (SAM) system. Since its first deployment in 1957, it has become the most widely-deployed and -used air defense missile in history

This system first gained fame when an S-75 battery shot down a U-2 overflying the Soviet Union in 1960. Later, North Vietnamese forces used the S-75 extensively during the Vietnam War to defend Hanoi and Haiphong
...
In 1965 North Vietnam asked for some assistance against the US's airpower, which they were essentially defenseless against at the time. After some discussion it was agreed to supply the PAVN with the S-75. The decision was not made lightly, because it greatly increased the chances that one would fall into US hands for study. Site preparation started early in the year, and the US detected the program almost immediately on April 5, 1965. While military planners pressed for the sites to be attacked before they could become operational, their political leaders refused, fearing that Soviet technical staff might be killed.[citation needed]
 
On July 24, 1965, a USAF F-4C aircraft was shot down by an SA-2.[3] Three days later, the US responded with Operation Iron Hand to attack the other sites before they could become operational. Most of the S-75 were deployed around the Hanoi-Haiphong area and were off-limits to attack (as were local airfields) for political reasons. President Lyndon Johnson announced on public TV that one of the other sites would be attacked the next week. The Vietnamese removed the missiles and replaced them with decoys, while moving every available anti-aircraft gun into the approach routes. The tactic worked, causing American casualties.

http://www.vnafmamn.com/Valiant_Anloc.html
  It should be noticed that the ARVN ground forces at An Loc have been armed with the "humble" M-72s (no good for firing at Soviet heavy battle Tanks, it works only when firing at the right spot and with luck) and home-made, modified anti-tank "mines." Why? Because at this difficult phase of Vietnam war, Uncle Sam was in the process of pulling out. No more Yankee ground troops around, but only the advisory teams. And now, brace yourselves, you are descending into hell: Battle of An Loc.  April 1972

NORTH VIETNAMESE COMMUNISTS' TANKS DESTROYED AROUND AN LOC

http://www.wellesley.edu/Polisci/wj/Vietimages/nva-tank.html

A North Vietnamese tank crashes through the gates of the Presidential Palace in Saigon on April 30, 1975

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons_of_the_Vietnam_War

A U.S. Army M.P. inspects a Soviet AK-47 recovered in Vietnam in 1968.

http://ussintrepidfcmassociation.org/intrepidfighteraces.aspx
Outlaw, Edward C., Cdr., VF-32, USS Langley (CVL-27), CO USS Intrepid (CVA-11) - 6
Born 1914 in Greenville, NC; Public Schools, Goldboro, NC.; USNA '35, Retired, Durham, NC '69.

Flight Training, Pensacola '37-'38. USS Enterprise, Scouting Squadron 6.  '42 deployed to Pacific as XO (VC-11) flying F4F (Wildcats).  
Led flight of 54 from Fiji to Guadalcanal to re-enforce Marine Corps.  He served there as leader of the Navy Fighter Group.  
'43 formed VF-32 as CO.  Deployed on USS Langley .  
April 29, '44, he led a flight of 8 Hellcats on a pre-dawn fighter sweep over Truk atoll; at dawn sighted a flight of aout 36 Japanese Zeroes flying at 10,000 ft in column of V's; first pass his flight flamed 8; then, exercising perfect discipline "Holly" Hills (4 kills) led his division to "high cover" where they accounted for seven of the enemy.  
Cdr. Outlaw shot down 5 and 1 probable, fellow Ace, Dick May got 3 and Outlaw's wingman 4.  
Total for this brief action was 22 victories and 6 probables.  

The action took place in less than ten minutes and was declared by COMNAVAIRPAC to be "a perfect example of air combat and air discipline."

Subsequently, he served three times in Pentagon; as CO of USS Duxbury Bay and USS Intrepid; as CO Air Group Six (Coral Sea);
CO Heavy Attack Squadron five (NucWpns).
Selected to rank of Rear Admiral and served as Commander Naval Aviation Safety Center;
Commander Carrier Division One and Task Force 77 of Vietnam '64-'65 where he directed first sustained attacks;
Commander CARDIVS 16 and 20 and Commander Hunter-Killer Force, Atlantic Fleet.

His last assignment was as Commander Fleet Aircraft Mediterranean/CTF-67/ and Maritime Air Mediterranean (a NATO orgnization of which he was the first commander).  
Decorations: Navy Cross, Legion of Merit (3), DFC (3)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_People's_Air_Force

1964-1974 (North Vietnam)
...
The North Vietnamese Air Force (NVAF) received its first jet fighter aircraft, the MiG-17 in February 1964, but they were initially stationed at air bases in Communist China, while their pilots were being trained. On February 3, 1964, the first fighter regiment No. 921 "Sao Do" was formed (Trung Đoàn Không Quân Tiêm Kích 921), and on August 6 it arrived from China in North Vietnam with its MiG-17s.[2] On September 7, the No. 923 fighter regiment "Yen The", led by Lt. Binh Bui, was formed. In May 1965, No. 929 bomber squadron (Đại Đội Không Quân Ném Bom 929) was formed with Il-28 twin engine bombers. Only one Il-28 sortie was flown in 1972 against Laotian forces.

The North Vietnamese Air Force's first jet air-to-air engagement with U.S. aircraft was on April 3, 1965. The NVAF claimed the shooting down of one US Navy F-8 Crusader, which was not confirmed by US sources, although they acknowledged having encountered MiGs.[2] Consequently, April 3 became "North Vietnamese Air Force Day". On April 4 the VPAF (NVAF) scored the first confirmed victories to be acknowledged by both sides. The US fighter community was shocked when relatively slow, post-Korean era MiG-17 fighters shot down advanced F-105 Thunderchief fighters-bombers attacking the Thanh Hoa Bridge. The two downed F-105s were carrying their normal heavy bomb load, and were not able to react to their attackers.[2]

In 1965, the NVAF were supplied with supersonic MiG-21s by the USSR which were used for high speed GCI controlled hit and run intercepts against USAF strike groups. The MiG-21 tactics became so effective, that by late 1966, an operation was mounted to especially deal with the MiG-21 threat. Led by Colonel Robin Olds on January 2, 1967, Operation Bolo lured MiG-21s into the air, thinking they were intercepting a F-105 strike group, but instead found a sky full of missile armed F-4 Phantom II Phantoms set for aerial combat. The result was a loss of almost half the inventory of MiG-21 interceptors, at a cost of no US losses. The VPAF (NVAF) stood down for additional training after this setback.

http://www.1stcavmedic.com/jane_fonda.htm
Jane Fonda sitting on an NVA anti-aircraft gun were really her


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalbanking12.htm
The best enemy Money can Buy - Antony Sutton

Americans killed by US made weapons in the Korea and the Vietnam war

“In Korea we have direct killing of Americans with Soviet weapons. The American casualty roll in the Korean War was 33,730 killed and 103,284 wounded… The 130,000-man North Korean Army, which crossed the South Korean border in June 1950, was trained, supported, and equipped by the Soviet Union, and included a brigade of Soviet T-34 medium tanks (with U.S. Christie suspensions). The artillery tractors were direct metric copies of Caterpillar tractors. The trucks came from the Henry Ford-Gorki plant or the ZIL plant. The North Korean Air Force has 180 Yak planes built in plants with U.S. Lend-Lease equipment. These Yaks were later replaced by MiG-15s powered by Russian copies of Rolls-Royce jet engines sold to the Soviet Union in 1947.”
...
“Who were the government officials responsible for this transfer of known military technology? The concept originally came from National Security Adviser Henry Kissinger, who reportedly sold President Nixon on the idea that giving military techno­logy to the Soviets would temper their global territorial ambitions. How Henry arrived at this gigantic non sequitur is not known. Sufficient to state that he aroused considerable concern over his motivations. Not least that Henry [Ford] had been a paid family employee of the Rockefellers since 1958 and has served as International Advisory Committee Chairman of the Chase Manhattan Bank, a Rockefeller concern.”

“Some years ago research strongly suggested that the Soviets had no indigenous military transport technology: neither motor vehicles nor marine diesel engines. Yet about 80 percent of the weapons and supplies for the North Vietnamese were transported by some means from the Soviet Union. The greater part of these Soviet weapons went to Vietnam by Soviet freighter and then along the Ho Chi Minh trail on Soviet-built trucks…

Update: Forgot the Soviet RPG


http://vietnamwar-guns.com/shop/product_details.php?p=53
Operating principle: Gas-operated launcher that can fire 6mm BB shot shells, 40mm airsoft/movie prop grenades, nerf-rockets and other types of gaming suited harmless "soft projectiles".

RPG-7 History
Soviet RPG-7 (or Chicom copy Type-69)was a common multi-purpose heavy weapon system for NVA and Vietcong who used it in direct firesupport, anti-armour, anti-helicopter and bunker busting roles.

Soviet RPG-7 was used by VC and NVA from 1967 onwards and was particularly effective against aluminum hullled M113 APCs. It's main role was, however, anti-personnel. Easy-to-use, lightweight and powerful RPG-7 and it's variants are still used world-wide.

All of these weapons were 40mm and capable of penetrating up to 6" of armour at ranges of 100 - 500 meters. Sights consisted of simple iron sights or optional more sophisticated range finding optical sight.

Oh before the RPG-7 was the RPG-2:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPG-2
The RPG-2 was the first rocket-propelled grenade launcher designed in the Soviet Union.


North Vietnamese troops with RPG-2 (B-40), 1968.


In the following archive is contained the nine books listed below by Antony C. Sutton. These are apparently all the books by Sutton available online.

Antony-C-Sutton-Books.zip
http://uploading.com/files/2d217991/Antony-C-Sutton-Books.zip/
http://depositfiles.com/en/files/jf8gxppnz
http://www.zshare.net/download/8476756275f9ee8b/
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=45Y0553H
http://rapidshare.com/files/440837732/Antony-C-Sutton-Books.zip
http://hotfile.com/dl/94283716/9339d2b/Antony-C-Sutton-Books.zip.html


Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development, 1917 to 1930 (Stanford, Cal.: Hoover Institution, 1968), Vol. 1 of 3.
Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development, 1930 to 1945 (Stanford, Cal.: Hoover Institution, 1971), Vol. 2 of 3.
Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development, 1945 to 1965 (Stanford, Cal.: Hoover Institution, 1973), Vol. 3 of 3.


Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution (New Rochelle, N.Y.: Arlington House Publishers, 1974).
Wall Street and FDR (New Rochelle, N.Y.: Arlington House Publishers, 1975).
Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler (Sudbury, Suffolk, U.K.: Bloomfield Books, 1976).
America's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull & Bones (Billings, Mont.: Liberty House Press, 1986).
The Best Enemy Money Can Buy (Billings, Mont.: Liberty House Press, 1986).
Trilaterals Over America (Boring, Oreg.: CPA Book Publishers, 1995).
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Rockefeller meets Kruschev, Waldorf Astoria Tower, Sep 18 1959
It doesnt look very cold


Churchill, Harriman, Stalin
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