Officials: Arson Conspiracy that killed and caused more than $1 Billion costs

[ObserveantNoServant]

Oh yeah just wait until Tomorrow Afternoon around 3 or 4pm EST and those Santa Ana Winds will be whipping that fire all over the place again like Tuesday......

Remember the Fire Fighters are no longer "fighting" the Fire...... They are on Salvage duty and protecting assests and valuable resources....... House's and all the woods are just going to burn and burn and burn........... No one is going to put them out, They have announced they will let it take it's course and whatever is incinerated too bad.......


Guess we'll see by the end of Alex's Broadcast Tomorrow.........

[Biggs]

they are saying that 880,000 people are now under mandatory evacuation orders.

[ManMs0808]

Sane, does the terminator really have the same photo guy as Bush had on 9-11? and the middle picture  of the terminator was taken by the same photographer as Bush had pictures taken  on 9-11?

[Dig]

Sane, does the terminator really have the same photo guy as Bush had on 9-11? and the middle picture  of the terminator was taken by the same photographer as Bush had pictures taken  on 9-11?

I have called his office for a statement, they said they would get back to me

[ObserveantNoServant]

Looks like the Fires are whipping back up as the morning progresses

[ManMs0808]

wow 1,000,000, evacuated, yep the fires are still burning this morning , hopefully no winds today . We will see

[HighSea]

It blows my mind how this large of an area can suddenly start on fire, all at around the same time, and they have no explanation!? I kept hearing "The fire jumps from house to house" and they had some guy explain how the plants on the hills are dry/waxy. This is a staged event. At the same time I am very concerned for the people affected. 

[Dig]

Listen to the Death Culture adjectives used for illuminati exctasy:

AMAZING

AWESOME

INCREDIBLE

MAGNIFICIENT

CNN-The most trusted name in sensationalization of tragedy

[Dig]

"It's like a bomb went off. It's like shock and awe. It is shock and awe," she said.

Can anyone check into MONSANTO?

[ManMs0808]

Hi Sane, stupid question, I know, but can you explain Monsanto a little more? So I can understand more what you would like help with?

[Murray Von Hayek]

Why don't they seed some clouds for rain to come douse the fires?

I live in the middle of all this and I knew from Sunday on that this was a lie. We have a major housing crisis in So. Cal. All the fires were burning in wealthy areas. The dollar is down. The stock market is down. The insurance industry is down.
 Bush and Naziscumsinegger are grandstanding like they are doing something. I'll tell you one thing I don't believe in coincedence when the government is involved or has an opportunity to be.

[Dig]

Hi Sane, stupid question, I know, but can you explain Monsanto a little more? So I can understand more what you would like help with?

dude, just wiki them.

Or watch this:
Monsanto in full color (not one has ever gone to jail)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3evAtxHTNE&mode=related&search=

or check out these sites:
http://www.heureka.clara.net/gaia/orange.htm
http://www.mindfully.org/Industry/Reign-Of-Chemistry-5jan53.htm
http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPerson.php?id=3035&name=Bodies-and-Evidence
http://mathaba.net/news/?x=564345
http://southasia.oneworld.net/article/view/134483/1/

[Dan]

I looked up Monsanto on Wiki.  About half way down the page, it turns into a really dark history of the company and the many different issues it is blamed for causing.  I would have posted it here, but it is way too much.  Just Wiki it.  I am sure that you already know all of this Sane.  I have not heard of it until you mentioned it.  I got something else to check out now.

Dan

[Dan]

Keep on your toes people.  I just realized that most people are turning their attention to the Cali fires.  That is all well and good.  Keep on the facts coming out of there.  Just do not turn your backs on Bush and his goons.  Watch for the old bait and switch.  I got a bad feeling about this.  They are going to try to do something while the attention is diverted to the fires.

Keep your eyes open.

Dan

[Dig]

WHERE WAS THIS GUY IN THE PAST 2 WEEKS?


Arson, murder charges filed in deadly Calif. fire
Suspect Raymond Lee Oyler pleads not guilty, could face death penalty   
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15526610/
Updated: 7:03 p.m. ET Nov 2, 2006[almost one year to the day]

RIVERSIDE, Calif. - Authorities on Thursday filed murder and arson charges carrying the death penalty against a man suspected of setting a Southern California wildfire last week that killed five firefighters. The suspect, Raymond Lee Oyler, 36, pleaded not guilty through his attorney. Oyler did not speak during his afternoon court appearance in Riverside.  Oyler, from nearby Beaumont, was already under arrest on suspicion of setting two other wildfires over the summer. The blaze was the deadliest for firefighters since July 1994, when 14 were killed near Glenwood Springs, Colo., according to the National Interagency Fire Center statistics. Prosecutors charged Oyler with five counts of murder, 11 counts of arson and 10 counts of use of an incendiary device. The charges include seven fires in June, one in July, one in September and two in October. District Attorney-elect Rod Pacheco said Oyler will also face two so-called special circumstances, one alleging murders committed during arson and another alleging multiple murders. Authorities did not immediately disclose a motive.

Death penalty possible punishment
The charges are punishable by life in prison without parole or the death penalty. Authorities will decide in the next 60 days which sentence to seek, Pacheco said. “The feelings of the surviving family members of the victims will be consulted and be given great weight by our office in what is always a difficult decision,” he said. A woman who answered the phone at the home of Oyler’s mother said she had no comment. The fire was stoked by Santa Ana winds as it swept southwest through the San Jacinto Mountains west of Palm Springs. The flames overran the fire crew, destroyed 34 homes and charred more than 60 square miles before being contained Monday.
______________________________

Man quizzed on Calif. blaze as 5th victim dies
Suspect in 2 earlier fires called a person of interest in deadly arson
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15428042/
Raymond Lee Oyler was arrested on charges of setting two wildfires during the summer.

Updated: 4:16 p.m. ET Nov 1, 2006

BANNING, Calif. - A man arrested on charges of setting two wildfires this summer is also considered a person of interest in the Southern California mountain fire that claimed the lives of five firefighters. Raymond Lee Oyler, 36, was arrested Tuesday at his mother’s home in Banning on two counts of arson linked to June wildfires in the Banning Pass area and two counts of possessing fire-making materials, according to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department. Oyler, of Beaumont, was not named as a suspect in the deadly wildfire that started last week and roared across more than 60 square miles, but he is considered a person of interest. He remained in custody Wednesday in lieu of $25,000 bail. Prosecutors were deciding whether to file criminal charges before a court hearing set for Thursday, said Ingrid Wyatt, spokeswoman for the Riverside County district attorney’s office. Investigators interviewed Oyler on Friday and searched his home Monday, the sheriff’s department said. No other details were released and it was not known if he had a lawyer. At the home of Oyler’s mother, a woman slammed the door Wednesday and screamed: “We don’t want to talk to nobody, comprende?” Four U.S. Forest Service firefighters died last week as they tried to protect a house from wind-driven flames in the San Jacinto Mountains, 90 miles east of Los Angeles.

Fifth firefighter dies
A fifth firefighter, Pablo Cerda, 23, of Fountain Valley, died Tuesday evening at Arrowhead Regional Medical Center in Colton. He had suffered burns over 90 percent of his body when the flames swept over the crew. “He was a great fighter,” Dr. Dev Gnanadev said outside the hospital.  “In the end we did talk to the family and gave them an option of taking him to the operating room again for further surgeries, knowing his prognosis is very, very poor, and they decided to let Pablo go,” he said. Several Forest Service firefighters left the hospital with tears in their eyes. “Today, more sadness is added to our almost unbearable grief,” said Jeanne Wade Evans, the San Bernardino National Forest supervisor. The fifth death made it the greatest loss of firefighters in a single incident while battling a wildfire since 14 were killed in July 1994 near Glenwood Springs, Colo., according to the National Interagency Fire Center statistics. Cerda was in only his second year of fighting fires for the Forest Service. He had planned to begin studying to become a paramedic. The other victims were the engine captain, Mark Loutzenhiser, 43, of Idyllwild; Jason McKay, 27, of Apple Valley; Jess McLean, 27, of Beaumont; and Daniel Hoover-Najera, 20, of San Jacinto.

[Dig]

I looked up Monsanto on Wiki.  About half way down the page, it turns into a really dark history of the company and the many different issues it is blamed for causing.  I would have posted it here, but it is way too much.  Just Wiki it.  I am sure that you already know all of this Sane.  I have not heard of it until you mentioned it.  I got something else to check out now. Dan

The Corporation-Monsanto

10 min - Apr 12, 2007 -    (18 ratings)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nwqqG_5-3k

More here: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=11320.0

And here: http://mindprod.com/politics/asbestos.html

[Dig]

Keep on your toes people.  I just realized that most people are turning their attention to the Cali fires.  That is all well and good.  Keep on the facts coming out of there.  Just do not turn your backs on Bush and his goons.  Watch for the old bait and switch.  I got a bad feeling about this.  They are going to try to do something while the attention is diverted to the fires.

Keep your eyes open.

Dan

Dude, what are they going to try?  We already know everything.  They are openly saying they want to kill 80% of us.  The government has an 11% approval rating.  We no longer believe their bullshit and anything they do will be met with non-compliance, inquiry, exposure of Rockefeller/Rothschild/Beatrice/Clinton/Cheney/Pelosi/Bush murders, and skepticism.

[Dig]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119316935837768734.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

October 2003: Near San Diego; 273,000 acres; 4,847 structures destroyed; 15 deaths. Cause: 'Accidentally' started by a hunter. It was among 15 wildfires that killed 22 people, destroyed 3,640 homes and blackened 750,000 acres of Southern California over two weeks.

November 1993: Malibu area of Los Angeles County; 18,000 acres; 323 homes destroyed; three deaths. Cause: arson. It was among more than 20 that killed four people, destroyed more than 1,000 homes and consumed 193,814 acres over two weeks.

[Dig]

Since Arnold has been Governor there have been some serious arson fires and the most mysterious tanker truck explosions known to man.  These 'acts of god [snake-god?]' have allowed him to funnel hundreds of millions with inflated transportation and emergency funding.

Does this guy really think he is in an action movie battling a snake-god?

[ManMs0808]

California Fires--- Al Queda Attack-----FoxNews!

[Riian]

The news is NOTHING BUT CA FIRES. 

I'm keeping my senses sensitive to any other news that the gov might try to slippppppppppp by.

[ManMs0808]

Thats for sure, now they can sliiiiiiiippppppp something by now, we will be watching and listening, notice we wont hear it on the news , with so much coverage now on the fires. 

[Dig]

Thats for sure, now they can sliiiiiiiippppppp something by now, we will be watching and listening, notice we wont hear it on the news , with so much coverage now on the fires. 

If you guys are counting on the Satanic AOL Company, General Electric, or Murdoch to inform you about something important to you, then we are not doing our job.

Here are some news sites:
http://rawstory.com/
http://alternet.org/
http://truthnews.us/
http://wearechange.org/

This is the same psyops they did during the Minnesota Bridge False Flag attack (they blamed it on bird shit-I think not) 100 hours straight, no commercials with the same visual.  It is an MK Ultra technique to shift the country's conversations from 9/11 and Ron Paul to fear and shock.

But there is only so many times we can be shocked before we awakened from the mind control.

[ManMs0808]

Youre' soooo right Sane ,these are the only TRUE NEWS SITES!!! thank-you

[Riian]

If you guys are counting on the Satanic AOL Company, General Electric, or Murdoch to inform you about something important to you, then we are not doing our job.

Here are some news sites:
http://rawstory.com/
http://alternet.org/
http://truthnews.us/
http://wearechange.org/

This is the same psyops they did during the Minnesota Bridge False Flag attack (they blamed it on bird shit-I think not) 100 hours straight, no commercials with the same visual.  It is an MK Ultra technique to shift the country's conversations from 9/11 and Ron Paul to fear and shock.

But there is only so many times we can be shocked before we awakened from the mind control.

Oh don't worry Sane   I know how the media works.  Gotta' keep our eyes on the alternative news sites as well as the mainstream.  Recognize the spin when you can and understand the way everything is connected.

[wafer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43rgB93AvSM

This is not a test
of the emergency broadcast system
When Malibu fires and radio towers
Conspire to dance again
And I cannot believe the Media Mecca
They're only trying to peddle reality
Catch it on Prime Time
Story at nine
The whole world is going insane

[ManMs0808]

Hi Riian,(newbie here) , Plz elaborate on "Recognize  the spin when you can and understand the way everything is connected.  

[Dig]

Youre' soooo right Sane ,these are the only TRUE NEWS SITES!!! thank-you

no they are not, there are at least 1,000 others that are just as good.  Plus they are all over the world.  Turkey, France, Britain, Mexico, Russia, Spain, Italy, Australia, Canada, etc.

[Dig]

This whole thing is nuts, we have known about the ease at which fires can be created in Califormia for the past 50 years with death and destruction being billions.  Do you think in 50 years someone would have gridded off the potential hot spots so that these things are maintainable?

[ManMs0808]

Yes, I think someone would have gridded off potential hot spots, for sure, they are saying the fires were started by downed power lines , or reckless people, or thrown cigarettes, with the wind, (possible) but also unlikely considering who and what we are dealing with.

[Dig]

Yes, I think someone would have gridded off potential hot spots, for sure, they are saying the fires were started by downed power lines , or reckless people, or thrown cigarettes, with the wind, (possible) but also unlikely considering who and what we are dealing with.

Yeah criminal negligence + over 50% of the fires are arson....looks like the gubernator loves f**king death and chaos.

No wonder why he wears a skull and bones next to his penis.



Wasn't his father an SS officer?




I wonder how the new homeless feel about the generational love of death and chaos their governor has.

[Dig]

Published on Monday, October 6, 2003 by The Free Press (Columbus, Ohio)
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1006-08.htm
Siege Heil: The Bush-Rove-Schwarzenegger Nazi Nexus and
the Destabilization of California

by Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman
 

George W. Bush's grandfather helped finance the Nazi Party. Karl Rove's grandfather allegedly helped run the Nazi Party, and helped build the Birkenau Death Camp. Arnold Schwarzenegger's Austrian father volunteered for the infamous Nazi SA and became a ranking officer. Together, they have destabilized California and are on the brink of bringing it a new Reich. With the Schwarzenegger candidacy they have laid siege to America's largest state, lining it up for the 2004 election. The Bush family ties to the Nazi party are well known. In their 1994 Secret War Against the Jews, Mark Aarons and John Loftus use official US documents to establish that George Herbert Walker, George W. Bush's maternal great-grandfather, was one of Hitler's most important early backers. He funneled money to the rising young fascist through the Union Banking Corporation. In 1926, Walker arranged to have his new son-in-law, Prescott Bush---father of President George Bush I, grandfather of George Bush II---hired as Vice President at W.A. Harriman and Company. Prescott became a senior partner when Harriman merged with a British-American investment company to become Brown Brothers Harriman. In 1934 Prescott Bush joined the Board of Directors of Union Banking. The bank helped Hitler rise to power. It also helped him wage war. As late as July 31, 1941---well after the Nazi invasion of Poland---the U.S. government froze $3 million in Union Banking assets linked to Fritz Thyssen. Thyssen was noted in the American press as a "German industrialist and original backer of Adolph Hitler." Loftus writes that Thyssen's "American friends in New York City [were] Prescott Bush and Herbert Walker, the father and father-in-law of a future President of the United States." That would be the current president's father, George Herbert Walker Bush, also the former CIA director.

On October 20, 1942, the U.S. government ordered the seizure of Nazi Germany's banking operations in New York City, which were under the direction of Prescott Bush. The government seized control of Union Banking Corporation under the Trading with the Enemy Act. The liquidation yielded a reported $750,000 apiece for Prescott Bush and George Herbert Walker. The book, The Splendid Blonde Beast: Money, Law and Genocide, goes into exhaustive detail on Bush-Harriman Nazi money laundering. More recently, Michael Kranish covers the same Bush-Nazi relationships in The Rise of the Bush Family Dynasty published in the Boston Globe. Loftus documents that "Prescott Bush knowingly served as a money launderer for the Nazis. Remember that Union Bank's books and accounts were frozen by the U.S. Alien Property Custodian in 1942 and not released back to the Bush family until 1951." Often ignored are the Bush family's post-World War II dealings with former Nazis. John Foster Dulles, who had worked with the Bush family in the Harriman Company in laundering money for Nazi Germany, was Dwight Eisenhower's Secretary of State. His brother Allen became CIA director.

As Martin Lee documents in The Beast Reawakens, American intelligence recruited numerous top Nazis to spy on the Soviets during the Cold War. Many established connections to the Bush family that had helped finance their original rise to power. In 1988 Project Censored, in its top award, noted "how the major mass media ignored, overlooked or undercovered at least ten critical stories reported in America's alternative press that raised serious questions about the Republican candidate, George Bush, dating from his reported role as a CIA 'asset' in 1963 to his presidential campaign's connection with a network of anti-Semites with Nazi and fascist affiliations in 1988." Investigative reporter Russ Bellant established ties between the Republican Party and former Axis Nazis and fascists. In 2000 and 2001 the Columbus Alive published a series of articles documenting further links between Bush, Sr. and the Rev. Sun Myung Moon and his own fascist networks in Japan and Korea. Karl Rove has parallel ties. The shadowy Rove serves as "Bush's Brain" in the current White House. He is the political mastermind behind the California coup, and is now in the headlines for outing Valerie Plame, the CIA wife of Ambassador Joseph Wilson. A consummate strategist, Rove may have outed Plame in retaliation for Wilson's failure to back up the Bush claim that Saddam Hussein was buying nuclear weapons materials in Africa. According to some published reports, as many as seventy CIA operatives have been put at risk by Rove's retaliatory strike. According to Wilson, and to Retired U.S. Navy Lt. Commander Al Martin (www.almartinraw.com), Rove's grandfather was Karl Heinz Roverer, the Gauleiter of Oldenburg. Roverer was Reich-Statthalter---Nazi State Party Chairman---for his region. He was also a partner and senior engineer in the Roverer Sud-Deutche Ingenieurburo A. G. engineering firm, which built the Birkenau death camp, at which tens of thousands of Jews, Gypsies, dissidents and other were slaughtered en masse.

Rove, who has been based in Utah and associated with the Mormon Church, is widely viewed as the chief engineer of the current Bush administration. He and Tom DeLay are attempting to force the Texas legislature to redistrict its Congressional delegations, adding seven sure seats to the Republican column. By controlling the state houses in New York, Florida, Texas and California, the GOP would have a lock on the four largest states in the union, and thus the ability to manipulate vote counts and strip voter registration rolls in the run-up to the 2004 election. Rove is a prime behind-the-scenes mover in the Schwarzenegger campaign. On May 1, 1939, a year after the Nazis took control of Schwarzenegger's native Austria, his father Gustav, voluntarily joined Hilter's infamous Strumabteilung (SA), "brown shirt" stormtroopers. This was just six months after the brown shirts played a key role in the bloody Kristallnacht attacks on Germany's Jewish community. The Vienna daily Der Standard noted recently that "Gustav, a high-ranking Nazi, brought up the bespectacled, rather frail boy with an iron fist and quite a few slaps in the face." Arnold's father favored a Hitler-style mustache in photos. On October 3, ABC News broke the story of Schwarzenegger's 1977 interview in which he was asked whom he admired. Schwarzenegger replied, "I admire Hitler, for instance, because he came from being a little man with almost no formal education, up to power. I admire him for being such a good public speaker and for what he did with it."

To cover himself, Schwarzenegger has made substantial donations to the Los Angeles-based Wiesenthal Center, which tracks down ex-Nazis [and shills for the Military Industrial Complex]. Arnold has also renounced Hitler [and also has orgasmic fantasies of being Hitler]. But he has not renounced his friendship with fellow [mass merderer] Austrian Kurt Waldheim, the one-time head of the United Nations with known Nazi ties [and known nazi kills and tortures]. The book Arnold: An Unauthorized Biography, documents Arnold toasting Waldheim, who had participated in Nazi atrocities during World War II, at his wedding to Maria Shriver. "My friends don't want me to mention Kurt's name, because of all the recent Nazi stuff and the U.N. controversy," Arnold said. "But I love him and Maria does to, and so thank you, Kurt." On May 17, 2001, Schwarzenegger also met with Kenneth "Kenny Boy" Lay of Enron at the Peninsula Hotel in Los Angeles. Through the utility deregulation plan signed into law by Pete Wilson, Schwarzenegger's chief advisor, California was destabilized, bankrupting the state government and opening the door for Tuesday's recall election. Lay has been George W. Bush's chief financial backer, and a close associate of Karl Rove's. According to Bob Woodward's Bush at War, Bush attended a New York Yankees game soon after the September 11 World Trade Center disaster. He wore a fireman's jacket. As he threw out the first pitch, the crowd roared. Thousands of fans stuck out their arms with thumbs up. Karl Rove, sitting in the box of Yankee owner George Steinbrenner, likened the roar of the crowd to "a Nazi rally." He would know.

[Dig]

Military Industrial Complex is flying Predator Drones into California.

MARTIAL LAW WILL BE RUN BY COMPUTERS!!

[ManMs0808]

OH now they are pleased with the disaster response, what a joke, why werent they pleased with the response in Katrina? for obviously a few different reasons. Anyway, Terminator is a NAZI skull and bones creep. wonder what they will do next? oh ya I forgot WWWIII, I was thinking wonder what they will do here next, but their might not be anything here next, because it will be war with Iran, but also a war between the Illuminati, and the chinese secret socities, could be here to. A whole other story here about the fires in California. Exactly how they were started, but again, like 9-11, has to be investigated, and proven. and documented. So, alot of investigating is in order here to check up on The ol terminator.

[geetardiva]

Seasonal firefighters had been laid off

By Bill Dedman
Investigative reporter

Every fall, the state of California declares the official end of the fire season. Sometimes the fires don't get the message.

Joe Mackey, a seasonal firefighter for CalFire, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, got a call Oct. 12 telling him he wouldn't be needed any more this year.

"They told me I'm getting laid off. Turn my gear in the next day," Mackey said. "They didn't really give me any notice."

On Tuesday, with fires threatening thousands of homes, the state backtracked, declaring the obvious: The fire season is back on.

"They have rescinded the fire season throughout California, and they are able to hire back all fire personnel," Patti Roberts, spokeswoman for the Governor's Office of Emergency Services, told msnbc.com Tuesday afternoon. "I can't say that they have all been rehired, but they can be rehired."

CalFire has about 1,400 seasonal employees in addition to 3,800 permanent staff, according to its Web site. It was not immediately clear whether all of the seasonal firefighters had been terminated before the Southern California fires broke out, or how many would actually be brought back. An official at one fire station said callbacks were happening unit by unit.

Mackey, 31, has been with the department since 1998, moving from station to station as needed. He was most recently stationed in the Chico area of Northern California, north of Sacramento, but said he would be fighting the fires in Southern California if he hadn't been laid off.

‘People don't understand’
"People don't understand that some fire departments are just summertime fire departments," he said. "We work from May to October or November. People ask, 'Why aren't you down there?' They hear on the news that they're shorthanded. I tell them I got laid off."

It's not the first time that a huge fire has happened after the firefighters are sent home. The Paradise Fire, which killed two people and destroyed 221 homes, was in October 2003. The Cedar Fire, which killed 14 people and destroyed more than 250 houses and commercial buildings, started the same month and burned into November.

"Every year, there's a possibility with the Santa Ana winds," Mackey said. "Some years they get lucky and there's only a few fires. The summer has preheated all this vegetation and there's drought, and then you get this spark and it's out of control."

Wife writes of frustration

Mackey’s wife, Laine, who sent an e-mail to msnbc.com on the layoffs, is beside herself over the situation.

"This happens every year," she said. "The Santa Ana winds help fuel huge fires that cause evacuations and millions in damage, all at the same time that the state cuts the budget and lays off thousands of firefighters, while Southern California is burning.

"We are struggling to find work and struggling to find a medical insurance company who will cover a recovering cancer patient like myself before our last 30 days is up. Yet now the state of California is in emergency and it's their own damn fault, as it is every year.

Firefighters who could be helping fight the fires and providing for their own families at the same time."
© 2007 MSNBC Interactive

URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21443093 /

[huckleberryhound]

I just read this article from July 2003 that was posted on Drudge. 

"The FBI alerted law enforcement agencies last month that an al-Qaeda terrorist now in detention had talked of masterminding a plot to set a series of devastating forest fires around the western United States."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-07-11-alqaeda-fire_x.htm

Could it be that Al-CIA-da is responsible?

[ManMs0808]

I would say NO not likely, Al Queda hardly(man in cave again?) , more like Arnold the terminator. Some input here Sane?

[Dig]

I would say NO not likely, Al Queda hardly(man in cave again?) , more like Arnold the terminator. Some input here Sane?

yeah sure al-qaeda is the all purpose boogie man.

al-qaeda poisons food - NOT! it is our gov

al-qaeda poisons water supply - NOT it is our gov

al-qaeda is in Iran - NOT it is shiia

al-qaeda is responsible for "clean skin" terrorism - NOT, BS excuse to use serveillance on all Americans

al-qaeda starts forrest fires - NOT, but they can be used to blame it on if people see that this was arson like all the others.

If Drudge Report is publishing it then it was purposefully leaked by Neo-Cons

[ManMs0808]

SANE, When(today) and where did you hear about the predator Drones flying into California? Are these drones used to help run computers?

[Dig]

SANE, When(today) and where did you hear about the predator Drones flying into California? Are these drones used to help run computers?

CNN, 2x they are running it every hour