My Daughter in vaccine brain washing attempt at school !!!!!!!

[phasma]

So my daughter came home from school yesterday, and as usual I asked her about her day.

She told me she had no lessons all afternoon because they held a "special assembly" for girls.

Basically all girls aged 12 - 16 were jammed into the school hall while some woman went on, for 3.5 hours, about the new cervical cancer vaccine !
The woman (im attempting to find out who the hell she is) told them out and out lies and disinfo, there was much of it but the best ones for purposes of illustration of how twisted this was are:
"I had cervical cancer, it near killed me. Iv`e had the vaccine, and I`m ok now"
"Everyone else is having it, some people might think you are dirty if you dont have it as you will be able to spread disease"
and
"thousands of girls have had it, no one has had any problem except for a sore arm"

WTF!!!! Uk ppl, beware - they are taking this show on the road, coming to a school near you soon !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ghost in the Machine]

these fckers are pure evil... 

[Mike Philbin]

they're just COMPARTMENTALISED GOONS in a Fascist Eugenics agenda.

we must EDUCATE these misguided people - that'll be more efective.

[phasma]

Thank god my daughter has sense, i talked to her about the vaccine, told her IMO its not safe, and not necessary right now (she is 14) and that many ppl have gotten sick, and that this has not really been tested and we dont yet know the long term effects of inserting man made genetics sequences into your system.
She does not want the vaccine. She is spreading the truth to her friends, but their parents are all for it i think !

they're just COMPARTMENTALISED GOONS in a Fascist Eugenics agenda.

we must EDUCATE these misguided people - that'll be more efective.

Thats true - but she must know she`s telling lies, vaccination post infection will not make you ok !
(BTW read ya email mike)

[Mike Philbin]

with this cervical cancer issue - isn't PROTECTED SEX the best way to avoid cancer?

I mean it, one problem that wasn't mentioned with the FREE SEX FOR ALL ethos of Brave New World is the infection rate. But why does having sex cause cervical cancer? What is the real cause of cervical cancer? Like Breast Cancer, isn't it all environmental?

I bet it is.

[phasma]

with this cervical cancer issue - isn't PROTECTED SEX the best way to avoid cancer?

I mean it, one problem that wasn't mentioned with the FREE SEX FOR ALL ethos of Brave New World is the infection rate. But why does having sex cause cervical cancer? What is the real cause of cervical cancer? Like Breast Cancer, isn't it all environmental?

I bet it is.

Some of it is enviromental, some of it is genetics. Some of it is caused by HPV (human papiloma virus) which is what this stupid vaccine is aimed st, BUT
The vaccine only protects for two years (accordig to them) and then you need boosters, so since the legal age for sex is 16, why are they jabbing this into 12 year olds!!!
Advocate safe sex, Its got to be better, half the girls interviewed on some ch 4 prog thought they could have sex minus condons because they were protected from disease ! (??)

[heavyhebrew]

3.5 hours of school time wasted so the school could hawk vaccines to children without prior consent from parents?

Not good. Not good at all.

Present the time wasted as the reason when you complain to the school board. And the lack of prior consent. Then mention you will be talking to attorneys for negligence on the schools part. Don't do anything about vaccines with the board until after consultation with an attorney. Or the board will dismiss your problem by dismissal by conspiracy nut.

[phasma]

3.5 hours of school time wasted so the school could hawk vaccines to children without prior consent from parents?

Not good. Not good at all.

Present the time wasted as the reason when you complain to the school board. And the lack of prior consent. Then mention you will be talking to attorneys for negligence on the schools part. Don't do anything about vaccines with the board until after consultation with an attorney. Or the board will dismiss your problem by dismissal by conspiracy nut.

Good advice, thanks ! So pissed at this, i haven`t done anything yet, i want to be calm and coherent when i call them not ranting ! I had no idea this was going on, outrageous !

[heavyhebrew]

You might want to call around and see if you can get a free consultation with an attorney BEFORE you confront the school and school board.

Nothing makes a bureaucrats veins run ice cold than for a citizen to show up with their attorney in tow.

And bureaucrats and other official types do negligent, malicious, illegal stuff all the time.

Oh and if you get lucky, next election cycle, run for the board.

[phasma]

You might want to call around and see if you can get a free consultation with an attorney BEFORE you confront the school and school board.

Nothing makes a bureaucrats veins run ice cold than for a citizen to show up with their attorney in tow.

And bureaucrats and other official types do negligent, malicious, illegal stuff all the time.

Oh and if you get lucky, next election cycle, run for the board.

Its the blatant lies she was peddling that have my back up most ! A word to the wise - everyone they are going to start this next round of vaccines in october !

[Mike Philbin]

Everyone, they are going to start this next round of vaccines in october !

Nationally.

[Kilika]

Sounds like it's time you got educated as much as you can about that Gardisil vaccine.

Ask the school if they are aware that even the US FDA withdrew their support for that vaccine. They now dispute the makers claims...

http://www.naturalnews.com/Report_HPV_Vaccine_0.html

[phasma]

Nationally.

Yes all over the UK.

Leo - i wasn`t aware they had withdrawn support, thanks !

[Mike Philbin]

Leo - i wasn`t aware they had withdrawn support, thanks !

Yeah, you'd imagine MSM might be concerned enough about our safety to REPORT SUCH A REVELATION, no?

[phasma]

Yeah, you'd imagine MSM might be concerned enough about our safety to REPORT SUCH A REVELATION, no?

Here goes another letter to the editor  . . .

[Mike Philbin]

apparently, the Daily Mail is one of the remaining independents ... not too sure about the Guardian, though they did spill the BIlderberg beans this year....

[phasma]

Yeah. the mail is ok (ish)

This is outrageous. I have told the school that she is not to be given this thing, if they try to give it to her i will pursue whomever tries using every one of the laws available.
It is assault for a start.

Its so twisted. 3 plus hours of gardasil is good, have the injection . . . gardasil is good . . . trust us . . .

everyone with a daughter ask your kids schools when they are planning to hold these "information sessions" and be ready to pull your kids out of it, or atleast let them know its all lies before they go !

[phasma]

Its so wrong, I am gonna start writing an article about the safety of the vaccine (or otherwise) and push them through everybodies door locally.

Getting to the parents by brainwashing the kids !

[Novus Ordo]

My 15yr old come home with the same consent form a couple of days ago.
Please please don’t go up against them.
Don’t run the risk of ostracising your daughter at such an important developmental stage in her life.
Simply sign the right hand box ’I do NOT consent to my daughter having the vaccine.’
The only reason you should put as to why is,
Your having it done privately.

[Libertarian Perspective]

Can I ask which school is this if you don't mind, so I can write an e-mail to thats chool exposing their lies and propaganda and pointing out that the HPV vaccine is not safe and in fact, most vaccines are unsafe.

[Libertarian Perspective]

Please please don’t go up against them.
Don’t run the risk of ostracising your daughter at such an important developmental stage in her life.
Simply sign the right hand box ’I do NOT consent to my daughter having the vaccine.’
The only reason you should put as to why is,
Your having it done privately.

I feel you SHOULD stand up for tyranny and for liberty, show these eugenicist bastards that we are not their slaves and we will wake up and defeat their evil plans! 

[jshowell]

How much do you think Merck paid the school superintendent to have one of their snakeoil salewomen corral the young ones?  Do you think the superintendent knew he was selling his soul for some paper?

[phasma]

My Daughter does not want this injection, she says she has no interest in boys right now, so how is she going to get this disease?

I will stand against them and i will not tick having it done privately. I will enclose a letter telling them why i will not consent to my daughter having an as yet untested (FDA unapproved), new vaccine that has the potential to do serious harm. This will not upset my daughter or single her out from her friends. She is more informed than most of her friends parents! simply bowing your head and signing their forms allows them to get away with this behaviour in the first place ! You will also get harrassed by your GP if you tick the privately box, and then what will you do?

Ticking this box is the easy way out. It allows them to make up figures on up take as they assume you have no problem with the vaccine. It does serious harm to our rights to fight against this thing. It boosts their "uptake" figures !

I am waiting now to hear from her school as to whom the health care spokes person was , i will then contact them before i do anything else. Her school is in Liverpool. I want to gather as many facts as i can before i send any form of complaint.

[El Scampio]

Thanks for this post Phasma. I have a daughter too of 12 so I will expect she will hvae the same brainwashing sermon inflicted on her.

Can you recommend some good research on Gardasil I can print out please?

[phasma]

Thanks for this post Phasma. I have a daughter too of 12 so I will expect she will hvae the same brainwashing sermon inflicted on her.

Can you recommend some good research on Gardasil I can print out please?

I am researching alot and once i write my letter i will post it here for all to use / edit as a template or what ever

[Geolibertarian]

they're just COMPARTMENTALISED GOONS in a Fascist Eugenics agenda.

we must EDUCATE these misguided people - that'll be more efective.

The attempt to educate must certainly be made, but those making this attempt must realize ahead of time the likelihood that, in doing so, they'll merely be casting "pearls before swine."

       http://propagandamatrix.com/forum/index.php/topic,5068.0.html

[Novus Ordo]

My Daughter does not want this injection, she says she has no interest in boys right now, so how is she going to get this disease?

I will stand against them and i will not tick having it done privately. I will enclose a letter telling them why i will not consent to my daughter having an as yet untested (FDA unapproved), new vaccine that has the potential to do serious harm. This will not upset my daughter or single her out from her friends. She is more informed than most of her friends parents! simply bowing your head and signing their forms allows them to get away with this behaviour in the first place ! You will also get harrassed by your GP if you tick the privately box, and then what will you do?

Ticking this box is the easy way out. It allows them to make up figures on up take as they assume you have no problem with the vaccine. It does serious harm to our rights to fight against this thing. It boosts their "uptake" figures !

I am waiting now to hear from her school as to whom the health care spokes person was , i will then contact them before i do anything else. Her school is in Liverpool. I want to gather as many facts as i can before i send any form of complaint.

“I will stand against them and i will not tick having it done privately.”

You must have a different form to me? Mine simply has two boxes a ’YES’ to consent on the left and  ’NO’ on the right?

The last paragraph on the back of the accompanying letter ..
“what if my daughter wants the vaccination but, as her  parents, we’d rather she didn’t have it?”
You should discuss this with your doctor or nurse to get more advise. The decision is legally hers as long as she understands the issues in giving consent but the nurse would much rather have your permission as well. It is important for your daughter’s future to appreciate that having the vaccination now will protect her from the most common cause of cervical cancer for many years to come.

So in other words wait till we get her in a corner on the day of the jabs!

If you go on holiday with holiday insurance and you loose your big expensive diamond ring in the sea or at least you think you did you leave the insurance company little room to move other than paying you some compensation. The more information you give them the more room you give the insurance company to move.
Obviously your not going to have it done privately its about getting them to go away I’ve suggested to my daughter that such a little white lie might benefit her in the long run as well1

Anyway look its like bloody stepford wives around here so good luck with your fight!
Might I suggest you contact a few private schools and grammar schools I have it on good authority there’s a lot that “wont be inviting ’big farma‘, on this occasion I wonder why that is?

Hopefully just signing the ‘ I DO NOT CONSENT!’ will be enough but I’ve told my daughter she’s having the day off also, when it comes to jab day! And if they just drop ‘jab day’ on her, she's to call me and I’ll come pick her up.

Total none compliance is key when it comes to this kind of gangster.

[phasma]

I have told the school she is not to have it, i have told my daughter if they try to force it on her to yell no i do not consent and to run the hell outta school if need be and call me.

The problem is they will not just go away. Have you ever tried not going for a smear? My friend didnt want one (she was a virgin, they would not let her be) they threatened to kick her out of the GP practice if she didnt have it.

You have to let them know in no uncertain terms that you will not tollerate it, why you will not tollerate it, and what action you will take if they try to force it on your daughter, or try to get her to verbally consent by arguing with her (did you read of that case in scotland? They had her in the room, she said she didnt want it, they asked her why, she told them and in the middle of her explanation, they just jabbed her with it - through her uniform !!! I do not know what happened in that case, it all went very quiet !)

[Ceara]

Excuse me, I don't mean to take away from the main topic of this conversation.  But why is there school in July?  Is it year-round school?  

Been a while since I've been in school, but we always had summers off with school term ending either the end of May or first week of June.

Still it's terrible they are touting the injection to young girls.  I have a niece that's 14 and I worry about her.  She lives in Texas.  

Keep up the good work at spreading the truth.

[Mike Philbin]

in UK, school ends late-July, returns early September, mostly.

Excuse me, I don't mean to take away from the main topic of this conversation.  But why is there school in July?  Is it year-round school?  

[Novus Ordo]

Ticking this box is the easy way out. It allows them to make up figures on up take as they assume you have no problem with the vaccine. It does serious harm to our rights to fight against this thing. It boosts their "uptake" figures !

Just to add
Under the ‘yes’ on the left and ‘no’ on the right boxes it states..

If, after discussion, you and your daughter decide that you do NOT want to have the vaccine, it would be helpful if you would give the reasons for this on the back of this form (and return it to school).

Sorry I’m not going to be that helpful!
Verbally telling them I’m sorting it privately is for round 2 (if round 2 comes that is)
That might quickly evolve into a discussion about the definition of the word ‘private’ but as I’ve already stated hopefully it wont come to that.

[phasma]

They want you to tell them so they can come up with an argument against your comments.

You could just say no and not fill in any helpful comments
or
You could write arguments against which they cannot argue! Off the top of my head,
The number of serious ADR`s (adverse drug reactions)
The age of you daughter and the fact that she is not sexually active
The FDA withdrawal of approval (Given they ok crap like fluoride its really something for them to do this)
The fact that there are no longitudinal test results
The fact that it is made of replicated DNA in a lab, and the Fact that we have no idea how this will behave in the body over time !

Feel free to add to this one and all !

[Novus Ordo]

They want you to tell them so they can come up with an argument against your comments.

Do you think I’m not aware of this?
Do you actually have the consent form?

[phasma]

They sent it out 4 months ago yes, when they vaccinated all the year 8 girls.

At that point i sent it back with no, and sent a letter with my feelings as they stood then. They "lost it" and sent me another form last week. Form looked slightly different to earlier form - i just handed it back and said you have had my form, answer is no.

[Novus Ordo]

(did you read of that case in scotland? They had her in the room, she said she didnt want it, they asked her why, she told them and in the middle of her explanation, they just jabbed her with it - through her uniform !!! I do not know what happened in that case, it all went very quiet !)

Let me put another way …
“screw the truth movement”
when it come to my daughters health and well being!
It’s her body and her choice first and foremost!

All I’m interested in right now is what will make this go away as quickly as possible, in every respect.
So she can concentrate on what’s really important at this stage in her life.
She not going to get suddenly jabbed in the arm if she tells them “its being sorted already, talk to my parents”

[phasma]

Let me put another way …
“screw the truth movement”
when it come to my daughters health and well being!
It’s her body and her choice first and foremost!

All I’m interested in right now is what will make this go away as quickly as possible, in every respect.
So she can concentrate on what’s really important at this stage in her life.
She not going to get suddenly jabbed in the arm if she tells them “its being sorted already, talk to my parents”

Hopefully so.
You just have to make it clear to the school that any attempts to talk your daughter round or jab her will result in a major sh1t storm on therm !
As you say our kids health comes first in this of course !
Keeping her off on jab day might be advisable, thats if we are made aware of the actual "day".

[Novus Ordo]

They sent it out 4 months ago yes, when they vaccinated all the year 8 girls.

I thought they couldn’t start till they were 9 yrs old ?
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/50593.php

It’s amazing that we’re actually having this conversation really, what a shitty world we’re leaving them.

[phasma]

I thought they couldn’t start till they were 9 yrs old ?
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/50593.php

It’s amazing that we’re actually having this conversation really, what a shitty world we’re leaving them.

Year 8 girls is the equivalent of 2nd year seniors when i was at school.
I know, its outrageous.

[Scootle]

Is this the vaccine that they mercilessly used Jade Goody to promote?

[phasma]

Is this the vaccine that they mercilessly used Jade Goody to promote?

the very same !