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« on: October 21, 2007, 09:46:35 AM »

Weapons expert Dr David Kelly was assassinated, an MP claims today.

Is murder still a crime, or has it been sanctioned to kill if the person has information contrary to the Governments actions.
The invasion of Iraq in this case.

But corageous and loyal  NNorman Baker resisted the OFFICIAL report, and as it turns out he was correct. To keep him quiet the MP has admitted it was a assassination.

The murderers and their masters will walk, they are covered, spin after spin, blame the terrorist, or Osman,its that simple. Just as it has been with soldiers in Iraq who have spoken against the war, Mr.Tillman for example.

Are the authorities out there hunting the culprits, no chance. You can bet if it was one of the Elites own, they would relentlessly scourge the country hunting him down..
What does that make us, nothings to them, pissants, time for a wake up call.
They are parasitic sociopaths, and we know that. Our lives are worth less than that of chopped liver.




Weapons expert Dr David Kelly was assassinated, an MP claims today.

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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2007, 11:24:44 AM »

Even with all the glaring discrepancies in the so called "official explanation" which lean towards Dr Kelly being murdered, why is it the police and indeed Lord Hutton ignored this evidence?  The only rational explanation is that it serves the British Establishment interests to do so.  Whatever the explanation they are yet again proven to be the criminals we know they are for perverting the course of justice!

Although, Norman Baker has stopped short of outright accusing the British government of ordering this hit, it seems clear that what he openly states and what he privately believes is a different matter entirely.  He even went so far as to say he has more information on this but would not disclose it for fear of endangering his informant's life (and very likely his own).   

One thing that still bugs me is why his family are so quiet about the whole affair?  Only recently the family of David Kelly appealed for him to be allowed to rest in peace following the news that he was likely murdered.  Why are they so adamant for this matter to remain closed as would you not want a thorough investigation if a loved one was found dead in mysterious circumstances?  It is more chilling given the fact that shortly before his death Dr Kelly predicted he would likely be found "dead in the woods" and maybe he told his family that in such an event they should remain silent for their own safety.   

With so many other unusual deaths of high profile people in the UK over the last 10 years, (Robin Cook & Diana to name but two) we are living in very dangerous times!   Shocked

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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2007, 12:31:32 PM »

Even with all the glaring discrepancies in the so called "official explanation" which lean towards Dr Kelly being murdered, why is it the police and indeed Lord Hutton ignored this evidence?  The only rational explanation is that it serves the British Establishment interests to do so.  Whatever the explanation they are yet again proven to be the criminals we know they are for perverting the course of justice!

Although, Norman Baker has stopped short of outright accusing the British government of ordering this hit, it seems clear that what he openly states and what he privately believes is a different matter entirely.  He even went so far as to say he has more information on this but would not disclose it for fear of endangering his informant's life (and very likely his own).   

One thing that still bugs me is why his family are so quiet about the whole affair?  Only recently the family of David Kelly appealed for him to be allowed to rest in peace following the news that he was likely murdered.  Why are they so adamant for this matter to remain closed as would you not want a thorough investigation if a loved one was found dead in mysterious circumstances?  It is more chilling given the fact that shortly before his death Dr Kelly predicted he would likely be found "dead in the woods" and maybe he told his family that in such an event they should remain silent for their own safety.   

With so many other unusual deaths of high profile people in the UK over the last 10 years, (Robin Cook & Diana to name but two) we are living in very dangerous times!   Shocked




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Only recently the family of David Kelly appealed for him to be allowed to rest in peace following the news that he was likely murdered.  Why are they so adamant for this matter to remain closed as would you not want a thorough investigation if a loved one was found dead in mysterious circumstances?

Your right,his daughter in law said that the reason there was no blood at the scene was it soaked into the ground.That is wrong because the pathologists proved that the blood was still in his body.Only one artery was cut and experts say that artery would shoot up his arm,get compressed and seal itself.It would take days to die of bloodloss from that wound,not hours.He only had 1/3rd the amount of painkillers,needed to kill him,in his system so that had no bearing.Surely the family know this information so why are they reacting in this way.Cowardice is my opinion!.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/letters/story/0,3604,1131833,00.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/hutton/story/0,13822,1372077,00.html

As the paramedics say when you cut an artery you can lose up to 6 pints of blood.He would have been covered because it spurts like a fountain.The artery Kelly cut was the ulnar artery which is surrounded by tendons and only one other person died that way in 2003.Paramedics see this every day,they knew straight away this did not add up.Kelly also sent a cryptic message by e-mail that day.

I will wait until the end of the week before judging - many dark actors playing games .
Thanks for your support I appreciate your friendship at this time .
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David

Who were these dark actors,i,m sure his family know full well.
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2007, 12:32:37 PM »

It seems the only people who dont believe he was murdered is Dr.David Kelly's family.  Everyone else knows.

Personally I saw him speaking about his findings when he was shot down publically and shortly after was found dead.  My first reaction was exclaiming he had been murdered.  This was before I began studying anything about 911 and the New World Order.  

If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck and walks like a duck and talks like a duck....a rose is a rose no matter how much it stinks.

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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2007, 02:08:05 PM »

Kelly's family will have had the frighteners put on them.

Accidents can happen, that sort of thing. A litany of every weakness each family member possesses will be kept on file, sympathetic assurances given of the states' discretion; support offered if any member appears `fragile'.

Frustrating as it may be, the UK establishment is still able to portray itself as simply befuddled over iraq to at least enough of a degree to actually avoid being rounded up for high treason.

& these are the ONLY 2 choices. Either round them up for high treason (& place them on the scaffold), or by default, if their crimes are NOT considered SUFFICIENTLY clear cut by ENOUGH social forces, they continue to remain in power. There is no middle way.

So. The verdict of murder re Kelly, would threaten to add to the critical material piling up on their position, to the degree that if not in & of itself decisive (however much combustible material has built up, Revolutions generally require a particular catalyst to kick them off), at least it would show them to a tiny degree to be the murdering scum that they are (the MPS are little more than goto biys really). & people be inclined to talk in such situations, one thing leads to another.

It's nothing personal, it's only business.

But their REAL fear is that the 94 year old Skull & Bones in the closet becomes more widely known eg re the following JFK LIBRARY link
http://www.jfklibrary.org/Historical+Resources/Archives/Reference+Desk/John+F.+Kennedy+Miscellaneous+Information.htm
Executive Order 11110:
“On June 4, 1963 President Kennedy signed this virtually unknown Presidential decree, which had the authority to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest, essentially putting the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank out of business. The order returned to the federal government, specifically the Treasury Department, the Constitutional power to create and issue currency without going through the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank. President Johnson reversed the order shortly after taking office in November, 1963. Some conspiracy theorists believe this executive order was the cause of President Kennedy's assassination.”



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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2007, 01:11:13 PM »

I'm reading a book called The Assassins, by Oliver North. It was written in 2005. It starts on the date of October 14,2007 when the oil fields get bombed and the Royal Saudi are murdered. The US gets together 100 Assassins to seek and kill the ones responsible. I'm at the part where they are getting together these people. I found it very interesting that he started the book with a two year ahead date. There are Russians and Iranians that are hiding in a base in Mexico called Lourdes. Supposedly closed. Coming from Ollie I wonder if this is really a plan, to skyrocket gas and start WWIII. I go to The Salvation Army and yardsales for used books, for 50 cents, I grabbed it.
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2007, 08:39:52 AM »

Today, the Daily Mail serialised Norman Baker's major new book in which he reveals the results of his year long investigation into the death of weapons inspector David Kelly - and why he believes the scientist was murdered after exposing Tony Blair's lies over Iraq.  He also claims the Hutton Inquiry into Kelly's death was just part of the cover-up.  The article is listed below:   

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=489167&in_page_id=1770
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Travesty of the truth: Was the Hutton Inquiry into David Kelly's death just part of the cover-up?

Even before I published the results of my investigation into the death of David Kelly, I knew what the reaction of senior politicians and commentators would be. Not another conspiracy theory!" they always cry when confronted with anything that challenges the orthodox explanation of events. "Such things don't happen in Britain." Of course not. After all, it's not as though a Bulgarian dissident could be murdered at a London bus stop with a ricin-tipped umbrella, an Italian with close links to the Vatican be left hanging from Blackfriars Bridge, or a Russian dissident be poisoned with radioactive - polonium-210 at a sushi bar in Piccadilly, is it?  Roll Eyes

Those who seek to discredit my year-long inquiry into Dr Kelly's death, and my belief that he was murdered, will no doubt point to the findings of the Hutton Inquiry. Costing £1.68million and hearing evidence from nearly 100 witnesses — from members of Dr Kelly's family to Tony Blair — this confirmed the official view that the scientist's death was suicide. Yet, as we will see, the truth was hardly like to come out in this travesty of a process. It was highly unconventional — not least in the way it was instigated.

At the time the body of the UK's leading weapons inspector was found in a wood on Harrowdown Hill in Oxfordshire on the morning of July 18, 2003, the Prime Minister was aboard an aeroplane en route from Washington to Tokyo. Yet by the time he touched down in Japan, he had already announced there would be a inquiry into the circumstances of the death, led by Lord Hutton, formerly Lord Chief Justice of Northern Ireland. This, no doubt, took the heat out of a very difficult situation for Mr Blair but, even so, the speed of the appointment startled many. Government wheels normally grind slowly.

According to journalists accompanying the then Prime Minister, he turned for advice during the flight to two of his closest allies: Charlie Falconer, the recently appointed Lord Chancellor, and his old Svengali, Peter Mandelson. Mr Mandelson would certainly have been well acquainted with Lord Hutton from his stint as Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. And yet when I tabled a Parliamentary question about his involvement in the appointment, I was told simply: "Mr Peter Mandelson played no part." As this was completely at odds with the recollections of a number of journalists I had spoken to, I requested the background material used to draft this answer. Noticeably absent from this material was any record of Mr Mandelson having been contacted to ask him for his recollections. So it is unclear how the answer that he "played no part" could be quite so definitive.

Whoever was behind the decision, Brian Hutton was the ideal appointment for those looking to help the Prime Minister out of a dangerous spot. He had only ever chaired one public inquiry — into the diversion of a river — but in his career as a judge he had always shown himself supportive of the forces of law and order and sympathetic towards the authorities. On his appointment, he said that the Government had promised him "full cooperation". But the hearing was compromised from the start. Unlike a full statutory inquiry — the setting up of which would have required Parliamentary debate, something the Government was keen to avoid — Lord Hutton's inquiry had no formal powers.

The Lord Chancellor argued that its informal nature would give Lord Hutton "flexibility of form" in conducting the inquiry as he felt appropriate. That might better be described as the abandonment of procedures and safeguards essential in establishing the truth. Witnesses could not be compelled to attend, and — since no one was required to give evidence under oath — they could not be found guilty of perjury if they lied. Moreover, Lord Hutton had sole control over which witnesses were called, what documents were or were not produced and, to a large extent, what questions were asked or left unasked.
This was all the more alarming since Lord Hutton's inquiry took the place of a properly constituted coroner's inquest.

What did Nicholas Gardiner, the independent coroner in whose jurisdiction Dr Kelly's body was found, think of this very unusual departure? Not much, the evidence suggests. Mr Gardiner had opened an inquest into Dr Kelly's death on Monday, July 21 — three days after the body was found. Subsequently he was told by the Lord Chancellor that it should be adjourned to "prevent duplication" because Lord Hutton would now be looking into the matter, effectively supplanting him. Clearly concerned about the informal status of the Hutton inquiry, Mr Gardiner wrote to the Lord Chancellor on August 6, suggesting that he might continue with his own inquest. His letter, which I have seen, makes plain that he was unhappy at the way he was being marginalised.

"As you will know a coroner has power to compel the attendance of witnesses. There are no such powers attached to a public inquiry. "If I do adjourn, I would be unable to resume, if at all, until after the public inquiry has been concluded and thus would not be in a position to assist Lord Hutton." This was indeed the position, but it seems not to have worried Lord Hutton, who throughout his inquiry appeared unconcerned about what Mr Gardiner might or might not be doing or thinking.

Mr Gardiner's protests seem not to have been well received by the Lord Chancellor, who wrote back in blunt terms, insisting that he adjourn the inquest and not resume unless "an exceptional reason" arose. It was reluctantly agreed that Mr Gardiner could first take evidence from the pathologist Dr Nicholas Hunt and the forensic analyst Alex Allan, but he was asked to "keep the proceedings as short as possible" and take evidence in writing "so far as the Coroners' Rules allow".

The coroner was, it seemed, being bundled off the case. More to the point, he was effectively being asked to cut corners in his own procedures. Such pressure from a Government minister on a coroner is highly unusual. On the basis of this truncated inquest, the coroner concluded that Dr Kelly had committed suicide by slitting his wrist and taking an overdose of coproxamol painkillers.

It is surely troubling that such a conclusion could have been based on this rushed process — especially as Alex Allan would later tell the Hutton Inquiry that Dr Kelly did not have enough coproxamol in his body to kill him. This meant that one of only two witnesses at this peculiar inquest would presumably disagree with the contents of the death certificate that arose from it.

As for Dr Hunt, his appointment as pathologist was curious from the outset. Given that this was an extremely high-profile death commanding front-page headlines, Mr Gardiner might have been forgiven for employing the most experienced person he could find. Instead he chose Dr Hunt, who had been on the Home Office's register of approved forensic pathologists for only two years. And whatever assessment of the cause of death he gave when the coroner originally opened his inquest on July 21, he clearly had a change of heart in the days that followed. In his letter of August 6 to the Lord Chancellor, Mr Gardiner says that "the preliminary cause of death given at the opening of the inquest no longer represents the final view of the pathologist".

We are not subsequently told in what way the pathologist had changed his mind. Nor was Dr Hunt asked about this when he appeared before the Hutton Inquiry the following month.

Worryingly, the pathologist was not subject to any cross-examination, despite the curious aspects of the case. Nothing is mentioned about the onset of rigor mortis, for example, though this is surely a key indicator for ascertaining time of death. Nor do we learn whether a full battery of tests were done on the lungs, the blood, the heart or the soil — all vital in determining whether Dr Kelly might have been over-powered and poisoned, or whether he really could have bled to death after cutting his wrist, given the small amount of blood at the scene. On that last question, it would surely have been helpful to know how much blood was left in Dr Kelly's body — but Dr Hunt's report does not even provide a measure of this. These are all crucial pieces of forensic evidence that are simply missing. 

Why were they not produced, and why did neither Lord Hutton nor James Dingemans, the inquiry QC, seek to elicit them? And why, when Dr Hunt himself made interesting observations were they not followed through, but instead left hanging in the air?

At one point, for instance, he was asked if there were any signs of a third-party involvement in Dr Kelly's death. His answer was intriguing. "The features are quite typical, I would say, of self-inflicted injury, if one ignores all the other features of the case." What were these other "features"?  Shocked

We do not know because Dr Hunt was not asked. Instead, Mr Dingemans asked him if there was anything further he would like to say on the circumstances leading to Dr Kelly's death. "Nothing I could say as a pathologist, no," he replied.  Again, it was an enigmatic answer. Did no one think to ask him what he meant by this remark?

If Dr Kelly's death was indeed murder, covered up to resemble suicide, not many need have known the truth. But some in authority may have suspected. Very much against etiquette, Dr Hunt broke ranks on Channel 4 News in March 2004 to call for the coroner's inquest to be reopened.

It is possible to surmise that perhaps Lord Hutton was told the truth, and was asked to go along with the cover story for the sake of the country, although there is, of course, no evidence to this effect. Certainly, I challenge anyone to say that the suicide verdict was settled "beyond reasonable doubt" on the basis of the evidence presented to Lord Hutton's inquiry.

On the contrary, the most sensational death of the year, and one of the most politically sensitive deaths in recent British history, was investigated to a less rigorous standard than would have been applied to any sudden or violent death subject to a normal inquest.

Lord Hutton himself does not accept that criticism. (obviously)

Judges rarely comment on cases over which they have presided, but — perhaps stung by criticism of his performance — Lord Hutton has done so. In a letter to me, he asserted: "You are under the misapprehension that my inquiry was not a rigorous investigation into the cause of Dr Kelly's death and into the question whether it was suicide or murder. "The question was fully and thoroughly investigated."

Yet this assurance is brought into significant doubt by Lord Hutton's own hitherto little-noticed contribution to a highly specialist legal publication, The Inner Temple Yearbook for 2004/5. In it, he wrote: "At the outset of my inquiry it appeared to me that a substantial number of the basic facts in the train of events which led to the tragic death of Dr Kelly were already apparent from reports in the press and other parts of the media. "Therefore I thought that there would be little serious dispute as to the background facts… I thought that unnecessary time could be taken up by cross-examination on matters which were not directly relevant."

In other words, Lord Hutton appears, to a large degree, to have made up his mind in advance. This perhaps explains why so many aspects of evidence appear to have been overlooked throughout the inquiry, not least when it came to the conduct of the police. Anyone reading the transcripts of their evidence is left with a feeling of dissatisfaction, even unease.

After Dr Kelly's death, for example, the Daily Mail received a number of letters and telephone calls reporting that there were men in black clothes on Harrowdown Hill early on in the morning, significantly before Dr Kelly's body was officially found. After plotting the positions of his officers, Assistant Chief Constable Michael Page told the inquiry he was satisfied that the men in question were police officers, but we are not told their names or what they were doing there. As to the officers who gave evidence, they seemed unable to agree on such basic details as how many of them were at the scene, and their testimony also conflicted with that of civilian witnesses.

Two members of the search party that first found Dr Kelly said that he was sitting propped up against a tree. They made no mention of a knife. Yet by the time we come to the testimony of the police officers, we are told that he was lying on his back and that there was a knife beside him.  Clearly someone was mistaken or some adjustment was made to the scene. 

This supports my view that someone wanted to make Dr Kelly's death look like suicide — but Lord Hutton seemed unperturbed by these anomalies.

He suggested in his final report that where the police officers disagreed among themselves, this suggested that they were honest because otherwise they would have colluded beforehand to produce identical stories. Had their accounts been consistent, would Lord Hutton then have concluded that the officers were, therefore, not revealing all they knew? Clearly not. The implication of such an approach is that, no matter what the police said, Lord Hutton was going to believe it.

When his final report was published, it was its political conclusions that captured the headlines. These would, of course, provoke widespread derision and anger, as he cleared the Government of virtually everything, and came down like a landslide on the heads of the BBC. 

In all the fuss, the question of whether Lord Hutton had properly investigated the death of David Kelly was completely overlooked. Clearly, though, Thames Valley Police were happy with the result. Roll Eyes

When Assistant Chief Constable Michael Page retired last year, the eulogy at his farewell dinner was given by none other than Lord Hutton himself. I learned of this from a police officer who declared himself very surprised that Lord Hutton should have been in attendance.

I asked Lord Hutton for a copy of what my contact had described as his "long and fulsome" speech but he was unable to provide me, with one, telling me that his comments had been impromptu. Lord Hutton himself has also retired. His inquiry into the death of David Kelly was his last major endeavour and is what he will always be remembered for, but it must not be allowed to be the last word on the subject.

David Kelly was a good man and we owe it to him to set aside the farce of the Hutton Inquiry, and create a new process that examines this matter officially, openly and with the rigour we are entitled to expect.

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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2007, 04:24:44 AM »

Blair 'knew Iraq had no WMD'

TONY BLAIR privately conceded two weeks before the Iraq war that Saddam Hussein did not have any usable weapons of mass destruction, Robin Cook, the former foreign secretary, reveals today.

By David Cracknell, Political Editor
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18676.htm

11/05/07 "The Times" -- -- John Scarlett, chairman of the joint intelligence committee (JIC), also "assented" that Saddam had no such weapons, says Cook.

His revelations, taken from a diary that he kept as a senior minister during the months leading up to war, are published today in The Sunday Times. They shatter the case for war put forward by the government that Iraq presented "a real and present danger" to Britain.

Cook, who resigned shortly before the invasion of Iraq, also reveals there was a near mutiny in the cabinet, triggered by David Blunkett, the home secretary, when it first discussed military action against Iraq.

The prime minister ignored the "large number of ministers who spoke up against the war", according to Cook. He also "deliberately crafted a suggestive phrasing" to mislead the public into thinking there was a link between Iraq and Al-Qaeda, and he did not want United Nations weapons inspections to be successful, writes the former cabinet minister.

Cook suggests that the government misled the House of Commons and asked MPs to vote for war on a "false prospectus".

He also reveals that Blair earlier gave President Bill Clinton a private assurance that he would support him in military action in Iraq if action in the UN failed "and it would certainly have been in line with his previous practice if he had given President Bush a private assurance of British support".

Cook's long-awaited diaries, published in book form as Point of Departure, are the first memoir of any member of Blair's cabinet. His disclosures are likely to lead to renewed calls for a judicial inquiry into the legitimacy of the war.

The Hutton inquiry into the death of Dr David Kelly has dealt only with the question of what the government believed ahead of publication of its Iraq dossier in September 2002 and whether Downing Street hardened intelligence reports to make the threat from Saddam seem more compelling.

Cook today opens a new controversy. He says that just days before sending troops into action, Blair no longer believed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction ready for firing within 45 minutes, the claim the prime minister had repeatedly made when arguing the case for war.

Cook reveals that on February 20 this year he was given a briefing by Scarlett. "The presentation was impressive in its integrity and shorn of the political slant with which No 10 encumbers any intelligence assessment," Cook writes in his diary. "My conclusion at the end of an hour is that Saddam probably does not have weapons of mass destruction in the sense of weapons that could be used against large-scale civilian targets."

Two weeks later, on March 5, Cook saw Blair. At the time the government was still trying to get a fresh UN resolution and Cook was still in government as leader of the Commons.

Cook writes: "The most revealing exchange came when we talked about Saddam's arsenal. I told him, 'It's clear from the private briefing I have had that Saddam has no weapons of mass destruction in a sense of weapons that could strike at strategic cities. But he probably does have several thousand battlefield chemical munitions. Do you never worry that he might use them against British troops?'

"[Blair replied:] 'Yes, but all the effort he has had to put into concealment makes it difficult for him to assemble them quickly for use'."

Cook continues: "There were two distinct elements to this exchange that sent me away deeply troubled. The first was that the timetable to war was plainly not driven by the progress of the UN weapons inspections. Tony made no attempt to pretend that what Hans Blix [the UN's chief weapons inspector] might report would make any difference to the countdown to invasion.

"The second troubling element to our conversation was that Tony did not try to argue me out of the view that Saddam did not have real weapons of mass destruction that were designed for strategic use against city populations and capable of being delivered with reliability over long distances. I had now expressed that view to both the chairman of the JIC and to the prime minister and both had assented in it.

"At the time I did believe it likely that Saddam had retained a quantity of chemical munitions for tactical use on the battlefield. These did not pose 'a real and present danger to Britain' as they were not designed for use against city populations and by definition could threaten British personnel only if we were to deploy them on the battlefield within range of Iraqi artillery.

"I had now twice been told that even those chemical shells had been put beyond operational use in response to the pressure from intrusive inspections. I have no reason to doubt that Tony Blair believed in September that Saddam really had weapons of mass destruction ready for firing within 45 minutes. What was clear from this conversation was that he did not believe it himself in March."

Cook asks: "If No 10 accepted that Saddam had no real weapons of mass destruction which he could credibly deliver against city targets and if they themselves believed that he could not reassemble his chemical weapons in a credible timescale for use on the battlefield, just how much of a threat did they really think Saddam represented?"

He raises "the gravest of political questions. The rules of the Commons explicitly require ministers to correct the record as soon as they are aware that they may have misled parliament. If the government did come to know that the [United States] State Department did not trust the claims in the September dossier and that some of even their top experts did not believe them, should they not have told parliament before asking the Commons to vote for war on a false prospectus?"

Cook decided not to publish his diaries ahead of last week's Labour conference in Bournemouth. Had he done so, his revelations would have ensured Blair received a much tougher ride from activists, many of whom are deeply uneasy about the war.

He reveals that in the months leading up to the war Downing Street aides, including Alastair Campbell, Blair's former director of communications, and Jonathan Powell, his chief of staff, were obsessed with not falling out with Washington.

Cook discloses that several cabinet ministers had held misgivings about the war, not just himself and Clare Short. At a cabinet meeting in late February 2002, Blunkett asked for a discussion on Iraq and Cook received cries of "hear, hear" from cabinet colleagues when he argued that Arab governments regarded Israel, not Iraq, as the real problem for the Middle East. Cook records it was "the nearest thing I've heard to a mutiny in cabinet".

His diary entry of March 7, 2002, a year before the war, says that Blunkett and Patricia Hewitt, the trade secretary, raised objections at cabinet.

"A momentous moment. A real discussion at cabinet. Tony permitted us to have the debate on Iraq which David [Blunkett] and I had asked for. For the first time that I can recall in five years, Tony was out on a limb."

According to Cook, Blunkett asked Blair: "What has changed that suddenly gives us the legal right to take military action that we didn't have a few months ago?"

Hewitt warned Blair: "We are in danger of being seen as close to President Bush, but without any influence over President Bush."

But the prime minister was "totally unfazed" and, when Hewitt again raised objections at cabinet the following month, Blair refused to be boxed in, telling colleagues: "The time to debate the legal base for our action should be when we take that action."

Cook reveals that Bush had wanted to hold a crucial war council with Blair in London on the weekend before the invasion of Iraq, a move that would have been a public relations disaster given public hostility to the war. Blair persuaded Bush to hold the summit in the Azores instead.

By September last year most of the cabinet had fallen into line. At cabinet on September 23, before parliament was recalled from its summer break, Cook says: "Personally I found it a grim meeting. Much of the two hours was taken up with a succession of loyalty oaths for Tony's line."

He says only Estelle Morris, then education secretary, "bravely" reported public disquiet that Britain was simply following Bush.

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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2007, 06:32:36 PM »

Robin Cook ex UK Foreign Office Minister died after leaving the Labour Party over the Weapons of Mass Destruction debacle.

The BBC First reported he had died of a broken neck on Ministry of Defence property in the middle of nowhere

Later on the BBC retracted that story saying he died of a stroke

This is another Diana Prince of wales stroke David Kelly Murder that has been overlooked

Further investigation is needed I know but can anyone here shed more light 
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2007, 04:56:50 AM »

You may wish to peruse http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/

They probably have info about this. Bit frosty mind.
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