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« on: July 05, 2009, 04:41:30 PM »

Mythbusters Misrepresenting Destructive Power Of Thermite



By Anthony Lawson
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Is it just me, or does anyone else think that the Mythbusters, hosted by the Discovery Channel, were directed to lay down some sand to try and dilute the effect on the public that recent revelations about thermite might have had? Revelations which indicated that thermite and thermate may have been used in the destruction of the Twin Towers and WTC7?
 
The episode in question has only just reached my cable operator, but a section of it is available on YouTube, and, by the time I watched it so had 45,262 others, which is also a bit odd. Why? Because many other Mythbusters episodes, posted by private individuals (this was posted by "Crashdance22") have been removed, due to copyright infringements, so why has this episode remained unscathed since November 16th, 2008; nearly eight months ago? Check it out.
 
Mythbusters Toast 1/2 Ton Of Thermite
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPAYZMzGMwQ
 
Here's another interesting thing to ponder. When using dangerous substances, the Mythbusters usually employ ex-FBI explosives expert, Frank Doyle, to make sure that everything is done properly, mostly from a safety perspective. But he is conspicuous by his absence from this episode. Even though thermite is not an explosive, Jamie Heinemann points out that care should be taken when mixing its ingredients, otherwise it could auto ignite.
 
Some interesting material about Frank Doyle can be found here:
http://www.hipmama.com/node/13866   
and also here: http://www.forensicsrus.com/page2.html
 
Including this paragraph:
 
January, 2007, Frank traveled to Israel to conduct research through the Institute of Terrorism Research and Response. For several weeks, he made contact with top level members of the Israel Police, Hebrew University and military prosecutors of the Israel Defense Force studying their counter terrorism methods. Specific areas include post blast investigation techniques, suicide and bus bombings, and mass casualty responses for Hadassa and Brazilai Medical Centers, Magen David Adom medical transport, ZAKA, Natâ¤l Center of Forensic Medicine and Israel Police K-9 training center. Meetings were also held with laboratory and bomb technician personnel to study incidents and their procedures. The Gaza crossing, Kassam and Katusha rocket attack sites were visited. This liaison and contact with these resources continues. Do you watch the Discovery Channel on TV? Well, Frank serves as the explosives consultant to the "MythBusters" TV show. He has been involved in producing 26 episodes which air frequently.
 
 
Could it be that Frank Doyle was kept out of this episode, to avoid any suggestion of bias? Here is my reason for thinking that this is quite likely: Frank Doyle, of all people, would know that the way the venerable Mythbusters carried out this particular bit of myth busting was absurd, and proved nothing about the destructive capabilities of this substance, when used correctly.
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2009, 04:46:22 PM »

I was wondering that too when I first watched it ... and the debunker shills did throw that in our faces as soon as it aired so its possible... the funny thing about it is is that when debunkers claim thermite can't demolish a building they are also implying fire cant either... regardless of thermites destructive power its obviously more violent than ordinary fire... so if thermite can't demolish a building then fire DEFINATELY can't!
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2009, 04:49:25 PM »

good post ........ mythbusters is on to pacify the masses  Wink Wink Wink
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2009, 04:58:15 PM »

have you guys taken the time to listen to this interview from red ice it give you another deeper level of meaning on the buildings falling

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/07jul/RIR-090702.php
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2009, 05:29:25 PM »

Thermite Vs. Thermate... You can also increase the reaction greatly by micronizing the particles adding catalysts etc... So this home brew wasn't all that special.
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2009, 06:00:59 PM »

yeah we are talking about advanced nano thermite not something made at home.
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2009, 06:58:14 PM »

I was wondering that too when I first watched it ... and the debunker shills did throw that in our faces as soon as it aired so its possible... the funny thing about it is is that when debunkers claim thermite can't demolish a building they are also implying fire cant either... regardless of thermites destructive power its obviously more violent than ordinary fire... so if thermite can't demolish a building then fire DEFINATELY can't!
hahaha, so true
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2009, 07:22:10 PM »

"Jamie Heinemann points out that care should be taken when mixing its ingredients, otherwise it could auto ignite."

It takes a lot of heat to light thermite. Usually magnesium ribbon is required to start it off or a chemical reaction. You can throw matches in it all day as well as gasoline and it more than likely will not get hot enough to ignite.
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2009, 07:54:28 PM »

One thing the Mythbusters video did display was the cascading effect that burning thermite has on metal.

Say, were did we see molten metal on structural supports before AND after a controlled demolition?
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2009, 09:08:09 PM »

I thought that was pretty impressive, the reason it didn't cut the car is because the molten metel flows vertically, just poured straight through the roof and lost most its energy pooled on the ground. If the stuff was painted on a vertical surface (like a vertical iron beam) it would couse it to wilt like a burnt match.
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