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« on: July 05, 2009, 08:55:57 AM »

So I just saw the new Transformers movie. Two things really popped out at me. There were 2 very 'current' references made in the movie both of which seemed akward and out of place. First there was a reference to Obama being airlifted out of Washington. And later on there was a quick reference to swine flu. Both of these topics are relatively current yet the Transformer movie is only out now which means some post editing was obviously done to the movie just before release specifically to add these 2 very awkward and obscure references.
1) When Obama's name was mentioned it would have made much more sense and been less awkward just to say 'the president is being airlifted..'. Why make a very specific reference in a movie like Transformers to a real life current day president whom has only been in office for a few months? This was the only reference made to Obama during the whole movie so it was very out of place. All other references made to the president were made as just that.. 'the president'- which makes a lot more sense and is more appropriate to the context of the movie.
2) The swine flu reference was made when the main character(I forget his name) met up with his former Sector 7 acquaintance whom is now retired and working in a butcher or deli shop of some sort. The former Sector 7 guy took him to his secret room to view some secret files. As they're entering the secret room they quickly pass by some butchered pigs and an odd reference was made by the main character- something to the effect of 'ewww swine flu'. Very out of place. Had nothing to do with anything going on in the movie. It's also worth mentioning that when the character said this line you didn't actually see his face saying it which is probably because the line was added in post production. Again. A very current day reference which contributed nothing, yet only seemed to awkwardly interrupt the flow of the movie.

The point? Why were awkward yet intentional one time references made to both Obama and the swine flu? During initial production of this movie the swine flu and Obama(as president) weren't even existant which means they obviously took the time to add these lines in post production or at least very late in production. But why? Were these just very innocent references added in to make the movie more 'current' or is someone specifically trying to tells us something about Obama and swine flu?
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2009, 09:36:23 AM »


Great post/comment....

No conspiracy theory here..... we are watching an agenda in motion.  The pre-conditioning is so obvious that it's embarrassing.  I can't even imagine the blisstards are missing this. 

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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2009, 09:38:25 AM »

Probably another hidden in plain view like the 9/11 and the lone gunman and various others.
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2009, 09:48:17 AM »

Considering what may transpire within the next couple of months regarding swine flu it's potentially the equivalent of some big budget bluckbuster movie making obscure references to Bush and the World Trade Centers a couple of months prior to 9/11
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2009, 09:52:40 AM »

Did anyone see the Colonial flag? It was in the wierd guy's basement with his "files".

It was so damn obvious they played his kookyness up and oooohhh Colonial flag in his "Secret" basement.



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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2009, 09:58:14 AM »

Considering what may transpire within the next couple of months regarding swine flu it's potentially the equivalent of some big budget bluckbuster movie making obscure references to Bush and the World Trade Centers a couple of months prior to 9/11

I have been watching the news close and they say swine flu will really start killing in the winter as they expect it to grow and be much worse and the reports about the UK will infect about 100000 per day and is out of control they claim. One thing is for sure is we haven't heard the end of this swine flu.

But yeah its funny all the movies that have NWO references and more..

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http://www.scotsman.com/latestnews/Swine-flu-to-infect-100000.5425945.jpg
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2009, 10:08:32 AM »

Did anyone see the Colonial flag? It was in the wierd guy's basement with his "files".

It was so damn obvious they played his kookyness up and oooohhh Colonial flag in his "Secret" basement.





Yes that's another thing. They were playing hard on the notion of conspiracy theorists being spineless kooks who believe everything they see on the internet. Early on in the movie the main character Sam(I think that's his name) is moving out from his parents house to attend college. His new roomates in the college dorm just happen to be a bunch of rag tag interent conspiracy theorists one of whom makes a reference to the effect of 'everything on the interent is real.'
One of the conspiracy theorists befriends Sam early on and stays throughout the rest of the movie serving no purpose to the movie, character development, or even the plot itself. Of course his character turned out to be a spineless coward in the face of 'real life' action.
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2009, 10:12:11 AM »

Also in the movie, when Optimus Prime is giving a teleconference with a general, that weasel guy comes in from the 'presidents' request and simply takes over the whole operation.  And starts demanding answers and what not, I just shook my head at the ridiculousness.
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2009, 10:35:28 AM »

Yes that's another thing. They were playing hard on the notion of conspiracy theorists being spineless kooks who believe everything they see on the internet. Early on in the movie the main character Sam(I think that's his name) is moving out from his parents house to attend college. His new roomates in the college dorm just happen to be a bunch of rag tag interent conspiracy theorists one of whom makes a reference to the effect of 'everything on the interent is real.'
One of the conspiracy theorists befriends Sam early on and stays throughout the rest of the movie serving no purpose to the movie, character development, or even the plot itself. Of course his character turned out to be a spineless coward in the face of 'real life' action.
Ohhhhhhhhhh I know!!!!!!!! I just murmured "Oh for f**k sake, here we go".

What was the site about again? Something stereotypical.
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2009, 10:47:04 AM »

Ohhhhhhhhhh I know!!!!!!!! I just murmured "Oh for f**k sake, here we go".

What was the site about again? Something stereotypical.

They had some kind of website where they posted conspiracy videos and that kind of thing. The situation was presented where they were trying to gain recognition releasing the latest conspiracy video before any other website could beat them to it as if to marginalize 'conspiracy' websites as some sort of competative pissing contest amongst internet kooks trying to make a name for themselves.
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2009, 10:56:31 AM »

It appears to have been a hamfisted way of keeping the movie 'current'. Michael Bay isn't known for his subtlety and I think it was a bad idea, personally.

Also, at least one of the writers is a closet conspiracy theorist. That would explain the character Sam met in college. Roberto Orci was probably channeling himself.
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2009, 11:01:59 AM »

And of course as with any big time blockbuster movie the military industrial complex influence was overwhelming.
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2009, 11:06:08 AM »

I just saw the movie yesterday.  It was very superficial (dialog and acting) and there were quite a few NWO references.  There was the swine flu joke and the whole idea that the American President runs the world.  The Autobots only deal with the American President, as if no other country has any say at all....  Very strange.  The NEST team is made up of Brits and Americans.  No Russian, Chinese, etc...

I was never really into the Transformers so to me, the movie is a rental....  My son wanted to see it and that's why I went.

Watching the trailer for the G.I. Joe movie left me uninspired too.  That movie is going to suck!!!  I had high hopes for G.I. Joe, but in the trailer the movie looks cheesy!!!
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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2009, 11:11:32 AM »

...and there were quite a few NWO references.  There was the swine flu joke and the whole idea that the American President runs the world.  The Autobots only deal with the American President, as if no other country has any say at all....  Very strange.  The NEST team is made up of Brits and Americans.  No Russian, Chinese, etc...


Good point. That didn't even occur to me.
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2009, 11:14:57 AM »

And of course as with any big time blockbuster movie the military industrial complex influence was overwhelming.

Bump.  The whole movie seems to be an ad for GM and the military with low brow and stereotype jokes thrown in.   
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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2009, 11:22:59 AM »

Bump.  The whole movie seems to be an ad for GM and the military with low brow and stereotype jokes thrown in.   

And the rest. I'm surprised the little gremlinbots didn't have brand names plastered all over them.
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« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2009, 12:22:30 PM »

1) When Obama's name was mentioned it would have made much more sense and been less awkward just to say 'the president is being airlifted..'. Why make a very specific reference in a movie like Transformers to a real life current day president whom has only been in office for a few months? This was the only reference made to Obama during the whole movie so it was very out of place. All other references made to the president were made as just that.. 'the president'- which makes a lot more sense and is more appropriate to the context of the movie.
2) The swine flu reference was made when the main character(I forget his name) met up with his former Sector 7 acquaintance whom is now retired and working in a butcher or deli shop of some sort. The former Sector 7 guy took him to his secret room to view some secret files. As they're entering the secret room they quickly pass by some butchered pigs and an odd reference was made by the main character- something to the effect of 'ewww swine flu'. Very out of place. Had nothing to do with anything going on in the movie. It's also worth mentioning that when the character said this line you didn't actually see his face saying it which is probably because the line was added in post production. Again. A very current day reference which contributed nothing, yet only seemed to awkwardly interrupt the flow of the movie.

i had a similar response watching the 1998 movie Armageddon.  at the beginning, when asteroids are raining down, what the people on the ground in New York City see is explosions.  then, in the midst of stereotypical references like an Asian couple who just want to "go shopping", 2 references are made - one to terrorism, the other to Saddam Hussein.

given that the movie was released about 3 years before 9-11 and 5 years after the 1993 WTC bombing, those references in the movie seem like propaganda.  the references are to Islamic terrorism, in the context of "Armageddon".

incidentally, it was also Ben Affleck's first 'big' movie.  he does a very good job playing one of the hero's who, literally, save the earth.
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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2009, 03:46:48 PM »

i had a similar response watching the 1998 movie Armageddon.  at the beginning, when asteroids are raining down, what the people on the ground in New York City see is explosions.  then, in the midst of stereotypical references like an Asian couple who just want to "go shopping", 2 references are made - one to terrorism, the other to Saddam Hussein.

given that the movie was released about 3 years before 9-11 and 5 years after the 1993 WTC bombing, those references in the movie seem like propaganda.  the references are to Islamic terrorism, in the context of "Armageddon".

incidentally, it was also Ben Affleck's first 'big' movie.  he does a very good job playing one of the hero's who, literally, save the earth.
I noticed that too. The cab driver with his head out the window saying "We at war, Saddam Hussein is bombing us".
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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2009, 03:54:22 PM »

i had a similar response watching the 1998 movie Armageddon.  at the beginning, when asteroids are raining down, what the people on the ground in New York City see is explosions.  then, in the midst of stereotypical references like an Asian couple who just want to "go shopping", 2 references are made - one to terrorism, the other to Saddam Hussein.

given that the movie was released about 3 years before 9-11 and 5 years after the 1993 WTC bombing, those references in the movie seem like propaganda.  the references are to Islamic terrorism, in the context of "Armageddon".

incidentally, it was also Ben Affleck's first 'big' movie.  he does a very good job playing one of the hero's who, literally, save the earth.

FYI - a youtube video showed a scene from 1998's "The Big Lebowski" - it was the scene where the characters were getting their bowling stuff from behind the counter. When you put this scene in slow motion, there were subtle references to 9/11, the Iraq war, AND Saddam getting captured. I mean this guy did a great job studying this scene.

Also - I believe it was in 1997 or so when Robert Stack/"Unsolved Mysteries" put out an episode over how McVey/Nichols were seen with an IRAQI prior/during the OKC bombing, only for this Iraqi to elude authorities and go back to his country. Again - more predictive programming.
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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2009, 04:19:58 PM »

Another movie coming out that has predictive programming is surrogates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwTJ7mCcFoY

Basically a future world where everyone lives their life vicariously through robots while they are plugged in to computers, it's for their safety  Roll Eyes. At the end everyone who is plugged in is switched off (killed). I've heard Alex talk about how the NWO actually plans to have everyone plugged in to a literal Matrix and they will sell it as being for everyone's safety it will end war etc, then they can just kill everyone off with the flick of a switch.
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« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2009, 04:47:18 PM »

FYI - a youtube video showed a scene from 1998's "The Big Lebowski" - it was the scene where the characters were getting their bowling stuff from behind the counter. When you put this scene in slow motion, there were subtle references to 9/11, the Iraq war, AND Saddam getting captured. I mean this guy did a great job studying this scene.

Can you provide a link to this youtube movie, I can't find it w/ all the other Big Lebowski videos on the internets.
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« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2009, 04:53:14 PM »

Can you provide a link to this youtube movie, I can't find it w/ all the other Big Lebowski videos on the internets.
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It's that one with MANY parts to it - "9/11 hidden in Hollywood". I can't remember the part it's on, but I'll go ahead and link you to part 1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L1k8AxGe4g

Like I said, you do NOT see it in fast motion. The guy who made the video was able to go over it in slow motion, and point it all out. OTOH - he could have been out-thinking himsef.
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« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2009, 05:01:36 PM »

Im tellin' u! it literally scared my jeans off! i was sitting there with my pants around my ankles trembling in terror after they used the actual presidents name. and all those military scenes just made it worse. im thinking to myself "Danger Will Robinson, Danger!" i swore to myself if Sam Whitwickey pulled out a genetically modified apple and took a bite out of it i was going to leave the theater. but luckily i got to finish the movie although now i have been completely brainwashed by the NWO.
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« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2009, 05:09:51 PM »

Also - I believe it was in 1997 or so when Robert Stack/"Unsolved Mysteries" put out an episode over how McVey/Nichols were seen with an IRAQI prior/during the OKC bombing, only for this Iraqi to elude authorities and go back to his country. Again - more predictive programming.

Funnily enough, Robert Stack voiced Ultra Magnus in the cartoon.
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« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2009, 08:05:02 AM »

Im tellin' u! it literally scared my jeans off! i was sitting there with my pants around my ankles trembling in terror after they used the actual presidents name. and all those military scenes just made it worse. im thinking to myself "Danger Will Robinson, Danger!" i swore to myself if Sam Whitwickey pulled out a genetically modified apple and took a bite out of it i was going to leave the theater. but luckily i got to finish the movie although now i have been completely brainwashed by the NWO.

Lol, man, did you get a ticket for public indecency? What would've been really scary is if Sam pulled out an apple and it turned into a decepticon lol.
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« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2009, 09:00:43 AM »

I watched transformers 2 the other day and noticed these exact parts in the film.
Very,very weird indeed.
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« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2009, 10:33:53 AM »

I watched Transformers 2 last night and thought that was weird when the "conspiracy" kid mentioned swine flu. Weird. Absolutely no relevance whatsoever. F****** subliminals!
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« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2009, 09:13:49 AM »


Anyone else notice that they have fit the Transformer story to the Annunaki Mythology?

At one point Sam and his girlfriend are seen with this symbol directly between them...




Interesting.  Does anyone come up with original ideas anymore?
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« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2009, 10:04:12 AM »

Anyone else notice that they have fit the Transformer story to the Annunaki Mythology?

At one point Sam and his girlfriend are seen with this symbol directly between them...




Interesting.  Does anyone come up with original ideas anymore?

Ya, I didn't realise it referred to the myth of Annunaki though. I knew it was something!  Wink
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« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2009, 10:12:47 AM »

Anyone else notice that they have fit the Transformer story to the Annunaki Mythology?

At one point Sam and his girlfriend are seen with this symbol directly between them...




Interesting.  Does anyone come up with original ideas anymore?


What is Annunaki Mythology and what does that symbol mean?
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Go to you tube and watch some videos on Zecharia Sitchin.  Nibiru.  Planet X.  Here's a really interesting look at the Annunaki...

the History of Satanism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTcF-7opGLU

Sitchin is never mentioned, but much of the first half is based on his writings.
 

The symbol, according to Sitchin, represents Nibiru.  I believe it has another meaning in Egypt, but in popular UFO culture it is recognized as a Sumerian symbol of Nibiru.  The Sun's dark Nemesis...a brown dwarf that violently disrupts our solar system at very long intervals.

Stargate is a similar story.  Alien masters creating men as slaves.  Then there was an uprising.
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