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« Reply #360 on: July 01, 2009, 09:49:04 PM »

Hey man, before I woke up I was a STRONG supporter of whatever the government said or did. I mean like neo-con/neo-lib status. I was not one to throw my mother under the bus, but when you wake up you really get a different perspective on things. Now there is a possibility that they woke up and you are actually throwing them under the bus because of some pristine condition that the truth movement has?  C'mon it is an open movement it is like Ron Paul's message of promoting freedom and the rights of individuals (there are neo-cons and neo-liberals that support the ron paul message and no one is alienated).

Seems like you have some personal issue with what you were shown on TV (which is hardly the truth) concerning who he is.  You are right, I have no clue and may be missing something because I do not watch MTV. He did apologize for the past 2.5 years of wasting people's time.  Why not just let it play out.  I mean WTF power does he have over you. So what if in 6 months he says that the truth movement is bullshit. We know it isn't, who cares. Right now he is allowing people to start investigating the truth movement, that has got to be a good thing.

Like I said earlier, once awake always awake. You could not go back to sleep if you wanted to and either could I.  If he has some long term plan to "infiltrate" good luck. There is nothing to infiltrate here, it is random discussions alerting people to the truth about tyranny, neo-feudalism, master/slave relationships, social architectures, propoganda, mind control, false flag operations, and the constitution. Let him "infiltrate", I would like to see that happen.

I really hate looking at the truth movement as some exclusive club where only those without sin can get in.  If that was the case I would never be able to post a single thing. And we should be prepared for thousands of more people like him to be waking up.  Even the king of England had to admit that the world was round.  This is truth and eventually everyone will know what is going on. Be prepared for even the most shallow person in the world to wake up. We should be expanding the tent and not limiting it.

SANE IS BOMB!!! ON F_CKIN POINT BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

although I loathe the jocks waking up.......grrrrrrr   j/k LOL
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« Reply #361 on: July 01, 2009, 09:49:38 PM »


But they have both risked their Hollywood fame and fortune by spreading the Truth to millions of new people.  How many of you doubters would honestly have the guts to do what they just did?



I'd really like to believe that, but unfortunately, I know that hollywood people can be, well, disingenuous when it comes to religion or politics sometimes. I guess I'm jaded, lol.

Same here.

I have to say, Spencer sounds pretty genuine to me. Heidi sounds a little bit like a space case and she seems to be parroting what her parents told her growing up.




This absolutely could be the case, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I really like their personalities but I'm not putting the idea away yet that they might be nothing BUT that: TV Personalities. Time will surely tell with these two. I hope they start actually getting active with WeAreChange LA chapter (http://wacla.org/) and waking some of their friends up but if all that comes from this is cheap potshots from Joel McHale and Perez Hilton about Alex or infowars, I guess we'll know.
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« Reply #362 on: July 01, 2009, 09:55:23 PM »

cheap potshots and whatever else happens BRINGS MORE PEOPLE TO INFOWARS.

engage!, engage!,engage!,engage!,engage!,engage!,engage!,engage!,engage!,engage!,engage!
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« Reply #363 on: July 01, 2009, 10:04:23 PM »

I'd really like to believe that, but unfortunately, I know that hollywood people can be, well, disingenuous when it comes to religion or politics sometimes. I guess I'm jaded, lol.

This absolutely could be the case, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I really like their personalities but I'm not putting the idea away yet that they might be nothing BUT that: TV Personalities. Time will surely tell with these two. I hope they start actually getting active with WeAreChange LA chapter (http://wacla.org/) and waking some of their friends up but if all that comes from this is cheap potshots from Joel McHale and Perez Hilton about Alex or infowars, I guess we'll know.

ok here we go....


WTF happened to river phoenix anyway?

What happened to Heath Ledger?

How healthy was the Olson twins' childhood?

What happened to the childhood of the heir to the Barrymore fortune?

There are thousands of stories like this.

HOLLYWOOD EATS THEM UP, SUCKS THE BLOOD OUT OF THEM, AND SPITS THEM OUT.

The predictive programming of "American Idol" and other such nonsense ensures a fertile stock of slaves from which to put into the meat grinder. We are spoon fed it from cradle to grave. The reason I do not watch MTV is because I cannot even understand WTF is going on. I tried watching some "fear show" where a friend sets up another friend to be involved in a scenario that would constitute a bona fide act of terrorism, gruesome murder, child abuse, etc. then after the friend pisses their pants they say "just kidding". I mean what has happened to my country, this obvious demoralization and dehumanization of our youth is supposed to be entertainment?

These people in the limelight that get pushed into the meat grinder by their family, friends, peer pressure, or their own programing are used like the horse in Animal Farm.  If just a few people in Hollywood really came out full throttle on truth, wow! "Day of the Locust" would seem like a nursery rhyme.

Give them some space to breathe in here, let them know they can come on in the water is fine.
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« Reply #364 on: July 01, 2009, 10:06:52 PM »

C'mon sane!! You didn't like the picture???  Grin
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« Reply #365 on: July 01, 2009, 10:11:09 PM »

C'mon sane!! You didn't like the picture???  Grin

cynthia mckinney in an israeli prison, suz getting extradited across the globe while her babies are still with Arkansas DHS, Murdoch CEO screaming for bloggers to be arrested, carbon derivatives bubble passed the house, newly awakened truthers getting flamed on the very forum committed to waking up millions... don't you think the MSM/MJ crap is distracting enough?
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« Reply #366 on: July 01, 2009, 11:08:08 PM »

cynthia mckinney in an israeli prison, suz getting extradited across the globe while her babies are still with Arkansas DHS, Murdoch CEO screaming for bloggers to be arrested, carbon derivatives bubble passed the house, newly awakened truthers getting flamed on the very forum committed to waking up millions... don't you think the MSM/MJ crap is distracting enough?


Fair enough... I'm not debating an MJ death or a photo of MJ... it was simply a good ol' fashioned laugh or a smile... anything that lightens the mood nowadays is welcomed in my books... I do understand your point, though.

*back to serious mode*

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« Reply #367 on: July 02, 2009, 01:51:10 AM »

"and gun ownership. Yeah, that sounds like Jesus."

ok, now where is that picture I am looking for?

I'm pretty sure the disciples were tooled up, but I guess they were evil though.
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« Reply #368 on: July 02, 2009, 01:54:28 AM »

cheap potshots and whatever else happens BRINGS MORE PEOPLE TO INFOWARS.

engage!, engage!,engage!,engage!,engage!,engage!,engage!,engage!,engage!,engage!,engage!

Exactly.  Whatever it takes to spread the information.  Alex doesn't need these people after going this far without them.  The hour is far too late to get all "choosey" about who is and isn't allowed in.
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« Reply #369 on: July 02, 2009, 01:55:07 AM »

Seriously, half the people commenting on the Jezebel article think that Heidi is scared that the human race is going to go extinct because of the current depopulation trends. Lol look at this one.


"Heidi, the world is not in "declining population" or whatever. Yes, in some nations in the developed world--a rather small fraction of the humans currently alive on this planet, actually--many people have the luxury of delaying parenthood, planning it according to finances/personal preference, or avoiding it altogether.

This DOES NOT MEAN that humans are dying out. Far from it. In fact, last I checked, we're reproducing pretty rapidly. There are lots of places on this planet where women don't HAVE the luxury of deciding when to have their first child, or when to delay that decision, or when to avoid it entirely. They would probably LOVE to have the freedoms we have--to be able to buy birth control, to be able to say no to unprotected sex with their partner--but they don't have that option. And so there are nearly seven billiion of us, and counting."

They are all completely ignorant of the overall context of what Heidi was saying, which was the broader subject of eugenics.  That's what I hate about the majority of people who haven't woken up.  Most aren't even willing to try to understand or aren't even willing to take a look at the information.  They would rather live in ignorance because it's more comfortable.  Not to mention the many who are probably afraid of the manufactured social stigma of believing in "conspiracy theories."

Yeah, I saw another post which made a similar assumption but I just closed the window after reading this one. I couldn't find a single redeeming quality in the comment section, and the site itself appears to be a lost cause.
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« Reply #370 on: July 02, 2009, 02:19:43 AM »

ok here we go....


WTF happened to river phoenix anyway?

What happened to Heath Ledger?

How healthy was the Olson twins' childhood?

What happened to the childhood of the heir to the Barrymore fortune?

There are thousands of stories like this.

HOLLYWOOD EATS THEM UP, SUCKS THE BLOOD OUT OF THEM, AND SPITS THEM OUT.

The predictive programming of "American Idol" and other such nonsense ensures a fertile stock of slaves from which to put into the meat grinder. We are spoon fed it from cradle to grave. The reason I do not watch MTV is because I cannot even understand WTF is going on. I tried watching some "fear show" where a friend sets up another friend to be involved in a scenario that would constitute a bona fide act of terrorism, gruesome murder, child abuse, etc. then after the friend pisses their pants they say "just kidding". I mean what has happened to my country, this obvious demoralization and dehumanization of our youth is supposed to be entertainment?

These people in the limelight that get pushed into the meat grinder by their family, friends, peer pressure, or their own programing are used like the horse in Animal Farm.  If just a few people in Hollywood really came out full throttle on truth, wow! "Day of the Locust" would seem like a nursery rhyme.

Give them some space to breathe in here, let them know they can come on in the water is fine.

You know what, sane? I think you're right. Those people were waking up in costa rica, and they tried to recondition them, heidi got sick, spencer cried foul, then the NBC execs got mad and put the damage control/smear campaign mechanism in place.
flashback to 2006
SHOPPING WITH -- Lauren Conrad and Heidi Montag; Blond Ambition Comes in Flats or Heels

By LOLA OGUNNAIKE
Published: June 11, 2006

LAUREN CONRAD, the star of ''The Hills,'' a new MTV reality series, trolled for shoes recently at the Santa Monica outpost of Fred Segal with her best friend and co-star, Heidi Montag. It was shortly before ''The Hills'' began its run, and the two women were relishing not having to look prime-time perfect.
When the show begins, Ms. Conrad, 20, said, inspecting a baroque pair of Guillaume Hinfray sandals, ''then you have to start really worrying about everything you wear, because you know you might be photographed.'' She checked the price on a pair of black flats. ''Five hundred dollars,'' she said. ''I bet you could get them cheaper at a dance store.''
A Cognac-colored pair of Chloé platform sandals caught her eye. ''We used these during a shoot, and all the models kept falling,'' she recalled. ''I was like, 'Ha ha, I have on flats.' ''
Three years ago, Ms. Conrad was one of eight well-to-do teenagers chosen to star in ''Laguna Beach: The Real Orange County,'' which chronicled the daily lives of the young and indulged in Southern California. The show became a huge success, and MTV placed a bet that ''Laguna'' fans would want to watch Ms. Conrad navigate her charmed post-high-school life in a spinoff. She has left home and attends fashion school in Los Angeles, where she shares a luxury apartment with Ms. Montag, and has landed a coveted internship at Teen Vogue.
'' 'The Hills' is to 'Laguna Beach' what 'Melrose Place' was to 'Beverly Hills 90210,' '' said Tony DiSanto, one of the show's executive producers. ''But it wasn't like we said, 'Hey, we need a spinoff. Let's come up with something.' We just thought it would be cool to watch as L.C. entered into this new phase in her life.''
Training cameras on the pretty and pampered has proved a winning formula for MTV. Shows like ''My Super Sweet 16'' (overzealous teenagers planning $200,000 birthday parties), ''Tiara Girls'' (pageant queens in $3,000 gowns) and ''Cribs'' (a hipper version of ''Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous'') have been solid hits. The second season of ''Laguna Beach'' averaged 3.2 million viewers an episode, an impressive number in the cable world. ''The Hills,'' which made its debut on May 31, is already off to a strong start, Mr. DiSanto said. According to MTV, the season premiere reached more than 2.9 million viewers and was the most-watched show on television for the 8 p.m.-to-11 p.m. slot among viewers 12 to 24 years old, a prized demographic.
''We're ecstatic about that number,'' Mr. DiSanto said. ''It puts the show right up there with 'Laguna' and the other major hits we've had.''
When L.C., as Ms. Conrad's sun-kissed friends call her, starred on ''Laguna,'' she doubled as the show's narrator, recapping the previous episode before every show. Off screen, getting her to elaborate is like trying to extract a stubborn molar. Does she enjoy having her life captured for mass consumption? ''It's become normal,'' she said, shrugging resignedly. ''I've spent the last two years of my life doing it, so it's not weird to me.''
In fact, it is her wide blue eyes, which she plays up with heavy liner and mascara, that do most of the talking. ''She internalizes a lot, so with L.C. it's all about reading her face,'' Mr. DiSanto said. ''If you look at her face you can always tell what she's thinking and feeling.''
Ms. Montag, by contrast, is anything but shy and retiring. While Ms. Conrad sits quietly, her roommate easily commands the conversation, breezily discussing boy troubles, her love of Replay denim and her fashion influences. ''I love how the Olsen twins dress, and I also like Jessica Simpson and Sienna Miller's style,'' she said. Britney Spears, however, did not impress her. ''She's trying way too hard,'' she said.
In something of a surprise, Ms. Montag, 19, is emerging on ''The Hills'' as the most compelling figure to watch -- as those with no filter often are. In the first episode she bombs during a meeting with an adviser at the Fashion Institute of Design and Merchandising. Her sole ambition, she tells her interviewer, is to be a ''Party P.R. girl.'' Then, by Episode 2, which appeared on Wednesday, she was flirting with the idea of dropping out (''I just don't think school is for everybody'') for a job as a junior assistant to an event planner. ''I'm spontaneous and crazy and very unpredictable,'' Ms. Montag said by phone from Los Angeles last week. ''I'm in a different mood every second. I love going out to clubs. This is who I am.'' ...


Did the presence of cameras help Ms. Conrad? ''If I didn't like her, she definitely would not have gotten an internship, regardless of what the cameras wanted,'' Ms. Love said. ''She had to pass the test.'' Ms. Love also came to know Ms. Montag, but did not appear as impressed by what she described as her gregariousness. ''She's bouncy, very energetic,'' she said before dropping the diplomacy. ''Heidi needs a leash.''
Ms. Montag, who plans to channel all that energy into acting classes, hopes her ''Hills'' work will lead to a film career. Ms. Conrad has no such ambitions, though she has received a few offers, despite her admitted lack of talent. ''People who watch the show assume that we're acting, so when I would go in to read for a role, they would always be like, 'Huh, wait a minute,' '' she said with a laugh. ''I can't even read a script. I've tried and it's painful to watch.''
She maintained that ''The Hills,'' like ''Laguna Beach'' before it, is not scripted. Still, fans have dedicated umpteen hours in chat rooms to debating the veracity of ''Laguna,'' and Ms. Conrad is well aware that ''The Hills'' will meet similar scrutiny. Her response would seem to be foolproof: She's no actress. ''Scripts are corny and predictable,'' she said. ''Real life is always better.'' (Which is a total lie, it was totally scripted)

now, fast-forward to 2009
http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/07/spencer-pratt-heidi-pratt-montag-im-a-celebrity-get-me-out-of-here-nbc-hospitalization-costa-rica/
Spencer's Got it All Wrong
Posted Jun 7th 2009 5:19PM by TMZ Staff
Folks behind the scenes at "I'm a Celebrity ... Get Me Out of Here!" are going after Spencer Pratt something fierce. A source is saying...

-- Spencer and Heidi Pratt quit the show last Monday, and stayed in hotels for three days.

-- There were no critters in the "lost chamber" (an isolated room Speidi entered for the show), other than the usual bugs in Costa Rica.

-- They were indoors at all times protected from the elements, even though other cast members have been sleeping outside in daily thunderstorms.

-- They were never in any danger and they slept most of the time.

-- No one is being held against their will.

We're told Spencer is sayin it's all BS ... they were effectively tortured and he's planning on suing NBC.

Stay tuned (just the way NBC wants it!).




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NEW YORK — Another celebrity has bailed out of the Costa Rican jungle set of "I'm a Celebrity ... Get Me Out of Here!"
Stephen Baldwin says he exited the NBC show over the weekend because he received more than 125 insect bites in eight days.

In a statement, he says the bites were so bad he had an extreme allergic reaction that caused him to lose sleep and 22 pounds.
The actor says he will continue to work on behalf of his chosen charity LOVE 146, which fights child sex slavery and exploitation.
"I'm a Celebrity" ends on Wednesday.

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Heidi & Spencer -- Tortured?
Posted Jun 7th 2009 10:35AM by TMZ Staff
Heidi Pratt was tortured by NBC to the point she was "convulsively throwing up" -- that's what some people on the set of "I'm a Celebrity ... Get Me Out of Here!" are telling TMZ.
We've learned Heidi was rushed to the hospital and diagnosed with a gastric ulcer, after being held with hubby Spencer Pratt in a dark room for a day and a night with only water, rice and beans. It was designed as punishment because they left the show. One cast member described their treatment this way: "It's the same as Guantanamo Bay."

And get this ... a cast member tells us NBC execs tried to convince Heidi to stay on the set rather than take an ambulance to a hospital for treatment. She has now left the hospital and is on meds.

We're told some of the cast members want to quit, but their passports have been taken away and they are under guard.

Paul Telegdy, NBC's Exec VP of Alternative Programming, told Ryan Seacrest about holding Heidi and Spencer in isolation as punishment, adding, "... They are now going to be examined, and their value system utterly deconstructed ... These people really are going to bare their souls."

We're told Spencer has fired his lawyer (who wanted him to stay on the show) and is now planning to sue NBC over the show.

Spencer and Heidi now want out ... for good ... but there's a problem -- they signed a contract with NBC to do the show.

NBC reps did not return our calls ... so far.

Stay tuned ...

(Producers fire back at heidi and spencer):
http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/07/spencer-pratt-heid-pratt-montag-i%27m-a-celebrity-get-me-out-of-here-hospitalization-food-water-torture-nbc/ (doesn't work for some reason)

http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/22/heidi-pratt-spencer-pratt-im-a-celebrity-get-me-out-of-here-costa-rica-nbc-al-roker-speidi/
Speidi to NBC - We Just Can't Quit You
Posted Jun 22nd 2009 1:19PM by TMZ Staff
In the "We've Been Used" department -- the hateable duo that quit "I'm A Celebrity ... Get Me Out of Here!" and then threatened to sue the show is coming back.

Heidi and Spencer are in a first class torture chamber (seats 1A and 1B) right now ... heading back to Costa Rica.

So the whole Al Roker feud, was a giant ruse -- we think.

Looks like they would rather deal with spiders than lose their coveted spot on the C-list.








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Heidi and Spencer Pratt have repeatedly quit NBC's I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here!, but Heidi's hospitalization seems to have ended the couple's run on the show for good.
"What we can say at this time is that Heidi went to a hospital in San Jose, Costa Rica Saturday evening because she was not feeling well," a representative for the couple said in a statement Monday. "She has been released from the hospital and is doing well. The couple remains in Costa Rica."
The show required the couple to stay in the "lost chamber" as a condition of their return to the competition after they repeatedly quit. Although the cameras showed Spencer and Heidi fending off various spiders and jumping often after hearing strange noises, they emerged from the chamber the following morning in good spirits.
Much of Monday night's episode featured Heidi and Spencer promoting their spirituality. Spencer spoke of prophetic dreams and claimed he was on a spiritual fast, and Heidi shared her lifelong dreams of becoming a missionary. Spencer even chose not to "Spence out" when Janice Dickinson compared Heidi's singing to a "drowning cat." But the religious talk rubbed some of the contestants the wrong way.
"I'm not going against Christianity, but this became Jesus camp," NBA veteran John Salley told viewers. "I've got Heidi praising the lord, Stephen [Baldwin] praising the lord, and Spencer — who I needed to be the old Spencer — is now born-again Christian."
It was after all this that Heidi began vomiting repeatedly and complaining of violent stomach pain. Spencer took his wife to the on-site medics, who started an IV and transported Heidi to a San Jose hospital. Although Dickinson suggested that the illness was the latest in a string of "calculated" acts, doctors determined that Heidi was suffering from a gastric ulcer or gastritis. The show's producers then informed the rest of the camp that Speidi would no longer participate in the competition.
In another development, Frances Callier — the remaining half of comedy duo Frangela  — quit the competition, explaining, "you can't separate Abbot and Costello." Her comedy partner, Angela Shelton, was voted out by the viewers last Thursday.
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BlueSeed1: Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:45 pm CDT
Good riddance. never return to network tv again.these two are a complete joke. I spit on the next network that is pathetic enough to give these two losers any form of tv time. hopefully I wont need to do any spitting.
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Chappel: Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:39 pm CDT
I'll be disappointed if they leave the show because I'm really looking forward to seeing someone kicking Spencer's a**. Though it will be a relief not to have to hear Heidi "sing" again.
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Chappel: Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:04 am CDT
Actually, the doctor said Heidi was probably suffering from a gastric ulcer OR gastritis... which is much less serious. This diagnosis was made, because they couldn't find anything wrong with her, solely on the basis of her saying her stomach hurt. If she had been lying through her teeth ( to get out of the show once their contractual obligation had been met) the diagnosis would have been the same.

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Green eyes: Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:03 am CDT
Evening.... So for whatever reason my husband wanted to see this show. As of right now im taking a pill for the headache i  got whatching tonight show. Here the thing... i may enjoy seening  some parts of it but all this talk about church issues. Well it drove me NUts,  I believe everybody has a right to have faith. As a personal Choice i dont go to church myself....  as i was thinking about toss my t.v out the door. Due to all the crying and whinning about how sad their life is. Their adults and most of them have more money then most of people whatching them. So i say suck it up and get over it... that one couple from the hills are full of bullsh@@. The are just not real  and all this crying and yelling about god and  bad spirit 's coming out?  It  their need to be seen and last i heard.. it you believe 100% in the above faith your humble and carry high morals value.  so let keep it fair and leave such subjects to one self, otherwise i can tell you a lot of people who dvr this show will only fast forward the rain of  ooh.. why me's and holy information. Who knows all the yelling about such  a subject might EVEN offend True Believes who live it everyday with a quiet dedication. Otherwise i think i just make my husband whatch such a show in another room... or hide the remote from him. I see how it goes.
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star168: Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:19 am CDT
Can't we just ditch them in Costa Rica or where ever they are?!  Seriously!  Strand them someplace so that we don't have to hear or see them or their "reps" ever again!
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lizzybelle: Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:38 am CDT
star168, I have been saying that for the longest......leave them there. Nobody will care.

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beemer86: Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:58 am CDT
what is their claim to fame?? I've never heard of these people
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DonMI: Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:19 am CDT
I watched this show just once and swore I'd never watch again so long as those idiots were on it.  Now, I might tune in again.....if I'm really, really bored for something to do!  The Pratts are living proof that you don't have to be poor to be white trash!

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ctheslayer: Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:44 am CDT
While I've been pretty adamant about my distain for 15 minute celebrities like Speidi, I'm amused by some of the comments that were made about their religious beliefs. Regardless of whether they were faking it, I somehow suspect that viewers and participants wouldn't have been complaining had it been Will Smith's "Scientology camp" or Madonna's "Jewish Mysticism camp," both of whom are very outspoken about their beliefs but I don't see them criticized like the few outspoken Christian actors there are out there.
Just my .02.
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darclyte: Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:51 am CDT
Last night's episode was the best one yet.  Spencer and Heidi, while obnoxious about religion, weren't boorish a-holes.  Sanjaya seems like a really good dude, and is game for just about anything.  The celebs are serious about their charities (which each spoke about and NBC finally identified last night) and each claim that when things get hard out in the jungle they just think about the money that they're raising for their charities and it makes it all worth it.  Also, the video of what really happened with Heidi proves that all of the hot air coming from them and their people about how they were abused by NBC and it's NBC's fault that Heidi got sick proved that Heidi and Spencer probbaly brought the illness on her by doing a "spiritual fast" and not drinking enough bottled water.  The funnies part was that Daniel Baldwin was the voice of reason throughout the episode.  When Daniel Baldwin is the voice of reason...you know the other people must be nuts.
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tthip: Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:21 am CDT
If a celebrity falls in a forest and no one cares. Does anyone anywhere care?
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journay2: Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:43 am CDT
All I have to say about this farce is that I am a believer and Heidi & Spencer give God a BAD name!  Enough already.
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jimmy: Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:53 am CDT
does anyone else think that this whole thing is being filmed in some empty airplane hanger somewhere?  Capicorn 1  come to mind?
and Now I know why Sanjaya is there.........because he finally found a singer someone that would make him sound good.    
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Zinger314: Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:53 am CDT
The "leader" challenge last night was the most hilarious thing in any reality show.
 
"Ok...no one won. There is no leader."

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deeannek: Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:54 am CDT
 I have only caught bits and pieces of this show and only because we have had  some crappy weather and need to check on local warnings.  Heidi and Spencer are annoying and as for the religion talk, I feel like they are making fun of Chrisitianity. Come on baptized by a Baldwin? WTH is that about?  Did anyone hear Heidi say (after vomiting ) she felt cleansed. Ew!
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Peter Bella: Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:20 am CDT
Personally, I think the whole Spiedi drama is staged, poorly executed, and a publicity stunt.  Not to mention ridiculous.  Additionally, neither of them are very good actors.  I am glad they are gone and truly hope that this little stint has somewhat deflated their “celebrity” status.  Truth-be-told, apart from their tabloid poses, I really don’t know what they are actually famous for.  They are the type of celebs that chases the paparazzi, rather than the other way around.
 I can’t believe nobody is talking about Janice!  Other than the fact that she is a royal pain – how scary does that woman look without makeup!  All I can say is YIKES!  She belongs on a public service poster warning people about plastic surgery gone bad.
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journay2: Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:02 pm CDT
Jimmy, I have to agree with you.  I had the thought that the foliage, dirt, etc. is all staged.  They keep showing clips of 'gators/crocs and all, and while I believe those things are there, I don't think the 'celebrities' are anywhere near them.  Not buying it for a minute.
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Chappel: Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:04 pm CDT
"Peter Bella: Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:20 am PDT
... I can’t believe nobody is talking about Janice!  Other than the fact that she is a royal pain – how scary does that woman look without makeup!  All I can say is YIKES!  She belongs on a public service poster warning people about plastic surgery gone bad."
 
I hear 'ya. That is one butt-ugly woman. She'd look a lot better if she had just let nature take its course instead of multiple visits to Dr. Frankenstein's laboratory.

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wrstlgirl: Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:08 pm CDT
Does anyone else out there feel like their being punked!  I mean seriously.  And Janice, she is just mean.

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Annette45: Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:29 pm CDT
Ding dong, the whack-jobs are gone!
I was channel-surfing last night, trying to find something to watch (found a good test pattern on 73.  Geez, summer tv is dead!), and watched, PERHAPS, ten seconds of this cr*p.  Longest, most painful ten seconds of my life.  Losers go home and stay there!  Crawl back to the obscurity that you so richly deserve!  (Except for Sanjaya - the kid's kind of sweet and perky.)
And yeah, I can't believe a Baldwin was sounding sensible either.  What's up with that?
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NBC Exec: Speidi "Are Everything That's Wrong with America"
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Hell hath no fury like an NBC executive scorned.

After enduring Spencer Pratt and Heidi Montag's back-and-forth shenanigans on I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here! three times, an NBC exec says the couple's third return to the Costa Rican jungle won't be without consequences.

"They are everything that's wrong with America... they are insincere, lazy, entitled and they claim the devil has possessed them," Executive Vice President of Alternative Programming Paul Telegdy tells Ryan Seacrest. "They are back and this time they are contrite... yeah, right. What they don't realise is that they are now going to be examined and their value system utterly deconstructed. They are going to spend the night somewhere in isolation and guarded with lots of surprises... but not traditional reality [stunts]."

Pratt and Montag saw their Twitter prayers answered Wednesday when NBC brought them back to the Costa Rican jungle to earn their way back onto the show. First, Speidi must sleep with actual spiders and other creepy crawlers in a vermin-infested chamber. Their fellow cast members must also vote them back into camp.

To keep the manufactured suspense going, Speidi's fate (and supposed suffering) was not revealed Thursday and will now be decided Monday.

The series did see a cast change Thursday when Angela V. Shelton — one half of comedy duo Frangela — was the first contestant voted off, downsizing the women's team to four members: Frances Callier, Janice Dickinson, pro wrestler Torrie Wilson and Patti Blagojevich, wife of former Illionois governor Rod Blagojevich.

Patti Blagojevich faces her own drama with the show: The children's cancer charity she chose to compete for, Bear Necessities, has rejected her winnings from the show because her husband was charged with threatening to withhold state money from a children's hospital, NBC Chicago reports.

"Children's [Memorial] is one of our long-time partners," said Bear Necessities spokeswoman Courtney Krupa. "We're just trying to be cautious."
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Heidi Pratt was hospitalized in Costa Rica this weekend for a stomach infection after she and her husband, Spencer, were sent to an isolation chamber as part of the reality competition I'm a Celebrity ... Get Me Out of Here! , according to reports.
After repeatedly vomiting, Heidi was rushed to a local hospital with a gastric ulcer, her sister-in-law, Stephanie Pratt, told E!  "She thought she was dying," she said.
Neither NBC nor TVGuide.com's production insider would comment on Heidi's reported hospital stay, but producers denied that she was ever placed in jeopardy on the show.
Heidi checked out of the hospital on Sunday and is now recovering in a hotel in Costa Rica, a source told Access Hollywood.
Heidi and Spencer's isolation experience was videotaped in full and will be detailed during Monday's special two-hour episode — as will the couple's overall fate with the show.
Also to be revealed will be the surprise quitting of a third contestant, according to our production source.
The Pratts were sequestered on Thursday in the "Lost Chamber" after they tried to quit the competition several times during the first week. The couple agreed to the punishment after they pleaded to come back to the show in which celebrities are dropped in the heart of the Costa Rican jungle to test their survivor skills, before viewers get the chance to vote them out.
Spencer's sister, Stephanie, claimed via Twitter that Heidi had been "locked in a dark room for 3 days w no food." She later told E! News that bugs were lowered in through the roof and onto the couple in the pitch black. "They treated them like they were criminals or terrorists," Stephanie Pratt said.
Although the conditions were intended to be uncomfortable, a setside source said the Pratts only spent 14 hours in the chamber, with food and water. They also slept through most of their isolation time, and emerged from the chamber in good spirits.
I'm a Celebrity's production company, ITV Studios, said in a statement that "all allegations of the celebrities being deprived of food and water are completely untrue."
All "press reports at this time are untrue. ITV has been producing this format around the world for many years and the health of the celebrity participants are of the utmost importance," according to the statement. "A medic and a doctor are present at the location at all times for all participants."

Sounds like cast and crew of “I'm a celebrity...Get me out of here!” were waking up and so NBC decided to do damage control.
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Heidi and Spencer Pratt are still in Costa Rica -- but not by choice.

Sources tell TMZ the detestable duo wanted to fly out last night, but couldn't get clearance from a doctor to fly. Heidi was diagnosed with a gastric ulcer after she claims she was "tortured" by the producers of "I'm a Celebrity ... Get Me Out of Here!"

The production company behind the show says Speidi's claims are all BS -- and the tape will prove it.


(what's interesting is that their torture claims were met with the same criticism and scrutiny that the journalists who claimed prisoner abuse at abu graib had ; they poke fun at the fact that the conditions of the set were so bad that 3 people wanted to walk away saying it was torture, claim that they were “asleep most of the time”, “weren't exposed to the elements”, and that there “were always doctors present”)

(also good to point out is the fact that the church of scientology does the same thing when people try to separate themselves financially from the “church”:http://virtualreview.org/china/zoom/815922/scientology-prison-camps-punishment-and-torture)

What really happened in costa rica?

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« Reply #371 on: July 02, 2009, 02:55:52 AM »

^ Holy Shit it is like Jonestown MK Ultra experiments for celebrities...peer pressure, sleep deprivation, creating antagonists/protagonists, pain/relief scenarios, torture.

All from General Electric (controlled by her majesty Queen ElizabethII) who received the biggest most secretive bailout from our unborn childrens' labor.

WTF, how can they not wake up? And they will be surrounded by body snatcher drones 24/7 to pull them away from the truth.

Sick shit, thanks for the post.
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« Reply #372 on: July 02, 2009, 03:06:14 AM »

^ Holy Shit it is like Jonestown MK Ultra experiments for celebrities...peer pressure, sleep deprivation, creating antagonists/protagonists, pain/relief scenarios, torture.

All from General Electric (controlled by her majesty Queen ElizabethII) who received the biggest most secretive bailout from our unborn childrens' labor.

WTF, how can they not wake up? And they will be surrounded by body snatcher drones 24/7 to pull them away from the truth.

Sick shit, thanks for the post.


WTF

After just watching Evidence of Revision - Part 5 with RFK and Sirhan Sirhan MKULTRA stuff.... this is all too familiar!!! Jesus, I knew that Heidi and Spencer would be attacked by the media... but DAMN.... tortured??? This is barbaric!!!

I hope Spencer sues the living shit out of NBC!!! Pieces of scum elitist fcuks!

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« Reply #373 on: July 02, 2009, 01:54:00 PM »

^ Holy Shit it is like Jonestown MK Ultra experiments for celebrities...peer pressure, sleep deprivation, creating antagonists/protagonists, pain/relief scenarios, torture.

All from General Electric (controlled by her majesty Queen ElizabethII) who received the biggest most secretive bailout from our unborn childrens' labor.

WTF, how can they not wake up? And they will be surrounded by body snatcher drones 24/7 to pull them away from the truth.

Sick shit, thanks for the post.

exactly...thank you. been at this all night researching it.
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« Reply #374 on: July 02, 2009, 02:14:32 PM »

"... They are now going to be examined, and their value system utterly deconstructed ... These people really are going to bare their souls."
Paul Telegdy, NBC's Exec VP of Alternative Programming

Yeah, this guy traffics in souls of many, I'm assuming.
This guy should change his name to lucifer.
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« Reply #375 on: July 02, 2009, 04:56:19 PM »

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I LOVE KING JESUS!

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« Reply #376 on: July 02, 2009, 04:56:44 PM »


I LOVE KING JESUS!

Ok, I'm sorry, I had to. Grin
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« Reply #377 on: July 02, 2009, 05:09:23 PM »

Btw, Spencer and Heidi always wanted, tried to be patriotic. They were supporting John McCain, were Christians, they were photographed posing with guns. They thought patriotism was waving an American flag made by slaves in Bangladesh. Through Alex' films they finally got a real purpose, real issues, they got a chance to evolve from their token textbook patriotism to something real. I have to credit and respect them for that. But also respect to the man AJ for putting these movies out in the first place.

Oh and Alex should have that music producer on that gave them the video.
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« Reply #378 on: July 02, 2009, 05:13:53 PM »

They are taking a lot of heat in the comments box on the US Magazine link.
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« Reply #379 on: July 02, 2009, 05:19:06 PM »

Btw, Spencer and Heidi always wanted, tried to be patriotic. They were supporting John McCain, were Christians, they were photographed posing with guns. They thought patriotism was waving an American flag made by slaves in Bangladesh. Through Alex' films they finally got a real purpose, real issues, they got a chance to evolve from their token textbook patriotism to something real. I have to credit and respect them for that. But also respect to the man AJ for putting these movies out in the first place.

Oh and Alex should have that music producer on that gave them the video.

yeah, I'll bet that guy's cool.  I just pick on people that are cheesy for the sake of cheesiness.
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« Reply #380 on: July 02, 2009, 06:04:38 PM »

"The idea was that those who direct the overall conspiracy could use the differences in those two so-called ideologies [Marxism/fascism/socialism v. democracy/capitalism] to enable them [the Illuminati] to divide larger and larger portions of the human race into opposing camps so that they could be armed and then brainwashed into fighting and destroying each other."

- Myron Fagan –

Keep this in mind the next time a celebrity or popular guest have an opinion about the state of the world. We have to remain focused on the real issues. The truth remains constant, nothing will sustain against it, nothing. I'm glad to see these 2 speak out against tyranny.
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« Reply #381 on: July 02, 2009, 06:10:43 PM »

I have considered this interview closely over the past two days before commenting on in. This is either the most perfectly crafted media psy-op I have ever seen, or completely legitimate and genuine interview. I believe in the work of Alex Jones and I have seen the truth of his message manifest itself first-hand. But as far as Heidi and Spencer Pratt are concerned, the integrity of their work remains in question.

That being said, truth affects the lives of everyone. Perhaps Heidi and Spencer's privilege in their careers lends credibility to their actions involving speaking out about the New World Order. Also, people who are not Christians do not openly espouse the grace and blessings of Jesus Christ.

I am sorry that Congressman Paul managed to get assaulted by Bruno. I really enjoy the media establishment humiliating and destroying a man's public image in such a way. Especially, when that man has the character and record as Congressman Paul. Ron Paul should be championed in the streets as the only true Constitutionalists left. He should be the President of the United States of America. And everyday that he is not, I weep for the future.

Because there's no time left.
 
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« Reply #382 on: July 02, 2009, 06:18:14 PM »

I have considered this interview closely over the past two days before commenting on in. This is either the most perfectly crafted media psy-op I have ever seen, or completely legitimate and genuine interview. I believe in the work of Alex Jones and I have seen the truth of his message manifest itself first-hand. But as far as Heidi and Spencer Pratt are concerned, the integrity of their work remains in question.

That being said, truth affects the lives of everyone. Perhaps Heidi and Spencer's privilege in their careers lends credibility to their actions involving speaking out about the New World Order. Also, people who are not Christians do not openly espouse the grace and blessings of Jesus Christ.

I am sorry that Congressman Paul managed to get assaulted by Bruno. I really enjoy the media establishment humiliating and destroying a man's public image in such a way. Especially, when that man has the character and record as Congressman Paul. Ron Paul should be championed in the streets as the only true Constitutionalists left. He should be the President of the United States of America. And everyday that he is not, I weep for the future.

Because there's no time left.
 

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« Reply #383 on: July 02, 2009, 06:22:04 PM »

I like these two more and more. Maybe I am falling for the trick who knows but it is exciting to see young people learn and grow. Just by going by what they are saying they really seem genuine and I suppose it all could be an act but I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. I am not a Christian in the traditional sense of the word meaning that I belong to some Christian denomination and am eager to condemn every other religion to eternal hell but I can recognize the divinity in Jesus Christ so the bible thumping of Heidi doesn't bother me in fact I enjoy seeing especially young people get excited about spirituality, God  and realizing there is more to life than endless materialism. More power to them as far as I am concerned. I hope the Lord protects them and blesses them and they can help to wake up young people all over.
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« Reply #384 on: July 02, 2009, 06:23:02 PM »

What does THIS mean, guys?
Viacom board of directors members sure are busy:

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2009/07/02/ap6612936.html



Sumner Redstone's stake in WMS Industries shrinks
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NEW YORK -- Billionaire Sumner Redstone has further reduced his stake in slot machine maker WMS Industries Inc. to less than 1 million shares, according to a regulatory filing by the company on Wednesday.

Redstone, who controls media conglomerate Viacom Inc. ( VIA - news - people ), now holds 966,999 common shares of the Waukegan, Ill.-based company. That brings his stake to just under 2 percent of the 48.9 million shares outstanding as of April 24.


Last July, Redstone's stake totaled 4.6 million, or 9.1 percent.

Redstone has been struggling with a debt crisis at his movie theater company, National Amusements Inc., that forced him to sell off $233 million in Viacom Inc. and CBS Corp. ( CBS - news - people ) nonvoting shares in October.

In May, National Amusements completed the restructuring of $1.46 billion of debt and pledged substantially all of its assets as collateral. The agreement with lenders pushes back the debt's maturity to the end of 2010.
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Deal chatter heats up in Hollywood
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NEW YORK (Reuters) - Dealmaking in Hollywood could get hot and heavy in coming months as movie studios explore ways to fight tumbling DVD sales and distribute entertainment in new formats.

Even as the recession squeezes financing from Wall Street banks and funds, the deal chatter has picked up because studios have already cut expenses and are looking for new growth opportunities for their movies, TV series and other content.

Viacom Inc's Paramount Studios is in early talks with several studios, including News Corp's Fox and Sony Corp's Sony Pictures, to cut costs by combining DVD manufacturing and distribution operations, a source familiar with the matter told Reuters on Tuesday.

Time Warner Inc, which owns the Warner Bros studio, is considering a bid for DreamWorks Animation SKG Inc, according to Variety columnist Peter Bart.

And Liberty Media Corp chief John Malone told shareholders last week that Sony Pictures and privately held Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer could be up for sale soon.

"What we're hearing is everybody's talking to each other on how to get joint ventures and structure costs," said veteran investor Mario Gabelli, whose Gamco Investors owns Viacom stock. "It's driven by how do you reduce costs, how do you raise financing, how do you distribute products globally."

With little hope of DVD sales picking up -- as online and mobile technologies change the way people view entertainment -- media bankers expect consolidation, but say more studios will prefer to combine units or strike partnerships and joint ventures rather than buy each other outright.

Traditional M&A may raise the hackles of antitrust regulators since there are only six major studios and a handful of smaller players, one banker said. "Studios will tend toward creating JVs to bring them together so that there is some pricing power over content," the banker added.

Acquisitions could also present integration challenges on the theatrical side of the business because of different movie production schedules, a second banker said.

"Everyone thinks studio consolidation makes a lot of sense," said a third banker. "There is tremendous overhead that can be reduced. But it's difficult given the egos and personalities involved."

Media moguls, from movie titans Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Katzenberg to overlords Sumner Redstone and Rupert Murdoch, have been invited to attend an annual retreat in Sun Valley, Idaho, next week, where they may well plot deals.

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Bankers and analysts say cable companies like Comcast Corp could make a play for the rich content libraries that studios own. Comcast, the No. 1 U.S. cable operator, already owns a stake in MGM, which also counts private equity firms Quadrangle and Providence Equity Partners among its owners.

A fourth media banker suggested that Lions Gate Entertainment Corp could be a good fit for Comcast because it could transform the independent studio's wealth of content into a cable network.

All four bankers requested anonymity because they do business with these studios or their parent companies.
Gamco analyst Chris Marangi said the popularity of video-on-demand could spur Time Warner Cable Inc and Cablevision Systems Corp to seek more content deals but added these smaller cable operators were unlikely to want to buy a studio and get into content creation themselves,

Some said Paramount itself could be up for sale some day.

"Despite the enormous success of "Transformers," Paramount has been a drag on Viacom earnings from the perspective of Wall Street analysts," said David Molner, managing director of Screen Capital International, which has conducted more than $7 billion in media and entertainment financing.

Molner, a former Paramount executive, added that Viacom has scaled down the studio's operations "to an extent that disposing of it today would be a lot more thinkable than several years ago when it was a bigger entity."

He said News Corp, Sony or Time Warner could absorb the trimmer Paramount if it were in play, while Lions Gate and the debt-ridden MGM are unlikely suitors.

Bankers generally see the major studios as possible buyers, and smaller rivals like Lions Gate, MGM and Dreamworks Animation as potential targets.

Most of these studios trade at about 6 to 7 times earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization, the fourth banker said, adding that the value of MGM is at par or below its total debt of $3.7 billion.

Investor Carl Icahn tussled with Lions Gate earlier this year, calling its expenses extremely high and seeking board seats. Icahn was also rumored to be buying up MGM debt with the goal of forcing a merger of Lions Gate and MGM, but any such plan has not seen the light of day.

Gabelli said investor activism was tough in the movie business because studios are usually owned by huge conglomerates. "Nobody's going to pressure Murdoch to do anything or Sumner Redstone or Jeff Bewkes," he said, referring to the heads of News Corp, Viacom and Time Warner.

Rather, media companies are taking the initiative in dealmaking among movie studios as they search for new sources of profit or seek to dispose of ill-fitting assets.

(Additional reporting by Sue Zeidler and Gina Keating in Los Angeles; Editing by Tiffany Wu and Steve Orlofsky)
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« Reply #385 on: July 02, 2009, 06:25:39 PM »

^ he should do what NBC/Universal did... demand a $50 Billion Bailout (under the cover of GE capital of course)
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« Reply #386 on: July 02, 2009, 07:13:51 PM »

its good to have exposure but i hope this does not back fire because spencer and heidi act really weird.
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« Reply #387 on: July 02, 2009, 07:23:16 PM »

its good to have exposure but i hope this does not back fire because spencer and heidi act really weird.

especially heidi. I'm sorry, but she just sounds like the cheerleader in high school who's all of a sudden trying to be friends with the nerdy kid in school...it's just so bizarre.
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« Reply #388 on: July 02, 2009, 08:01:53 PM »

It is funny to see people say that Spencer and Heidi are villains or they act weird etc. and they are basically basing this information of the reality show The Hills. These reality shows are basically just a modern version of soap operas and there is not anything that real about them but they are made to appear as if they bear some resemblence to real life. What Spencer and Heidi are like in real life how does anyone know? I am certainly not going to judge them by how they are presented on a "reality tv show".

This may very well be a clever attempt to lump the truth movement in with a celebrity couple that is percieved by the public as crazy or something so I can understand having concerns about that but I am just going to go by what Spencer and Heidi say when they are interviewed by Alex. So far I find them to be interesting to listen to and again that could all be an act but if this turns out to be a spoof than Alex is going to look really stupid and even look like a sellout on some levels. Sure Heidi has gone off on a bible thumping type tangent but I have no problem with people that get excited about their religion just as long as they don't turn into religous tryants and try to force their religion on everyone else. I can't help but root for them after listening to them but then again maybe this whole thing is designed to create that type of response from idiots such as myself.
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« Reply #389 on: July 02, 2009, 08:17:08 PM »

It is funny to see people say that Spencer and Heidi are villains or they act weird etc.

 I can't help but root for them after listening to them but then again maybe this whole thing is designed to create that type of response from idiots such as myself.

sad that we have to think in so many different directions. Roll Eyes
I have no opinion on these two, I do not do tv...but they 'sounded' genuine on the show.
While people get bent out of shape over vocal Christians (she was a bit over the top)
it was refreshing to hear them stand by their faith and  ADMIT they used to be people
impressed with shiny trinkets and baubles until they realized what the actual  REALITY  is .
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« Reply #390 on: July 02, 2009, 08:25:29 PM »

Fox News RedEye: Speidi for 9/11 TROOTH

July 02, 2009

Red Eye w/ Greg Gutfeld.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3ZU6Uqf2gc


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« Reply #391 on: July 02, 2009, 08:40:30 PM »

dude!

its backfiring



its turning into a guilty by association thing...

the media refers to them as idiots and now they (the media) are using their image to make the 911 movement look stupid...
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« Reply #392 on: July 02, 2009, 08:46:53 PM »

dude!

its backfiring



its turning into a guilty by association thing...

the media refers to them as idiots and now they (the media) are using their image to make the 911 movement look stupid...


Dont fall for their bull shit. They would attack anyone that came out like this. These scum bags would attack their own mothers.   The attack peoples character because they can not attack the points made. BECAUSE THEY ARE TRUE!!!! Never forget that the 911 truth movement was started by and for victims and family members.  Keep your head up they only attack when you are over the target.  Wink
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« Reply #393 on: July 02, 2009, 08:53:08 PM »

dude!

its backfiring



its turning into a guilty by association thing...

the media refers to them as idiots and now they (the media) are using their image to make the 911 movement look stupid...

settle down, dude. we're all gonna either hang together or die separately...the cold hard truth of the matter is that EVERYONE'S playing the game of "risk" here: the globalists DEFINITELY have a lot to lose right now, but then again, so does the media, and so do we. Everyone does. That's why things are getting so uber-dramatic and weird, now--because the gloves are starting to come off in the infowar, and people are being tested, and we need to really start getting ready to go toe to toe on air with the media for real debates, not this cute forum stuff, or they'll use their disinfo tactics to clobber us whenever we try to call in to shows, and they'll try to, as alex said, "throw the wet blanket on the fire of the truth movement". If us "terrorists" aren't gonna get our habeus corpus, we might as well try to strongarm the media with our dollars into at least letting us defend ourselves on-AIR to get the story straight.

We have to start figuring out how to counter the MSM or we're toast.
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« Reply #394 on: July 02, 2009, 08:55:02 PM »

of course i don't fall for their tactics but i am just saying that other people will. Specially people who barely know anything about 911 and other nwo topics. Yes fox news is stupid for saying that it is an insult to 911 victims family members, like you said "Never forget that the 911 truth movement was started by and for victims and family members"
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« Reply #395 on: July 02, 2009, 08:56:00 PM »

dude!

its backfiring



its turning into a guilty by association thing...

the media refers to them as idiots and now they (the media) are using their image to make the 911 movement look stupid...

LOL IM SORRY BUT THAT GIF IS HILARIOUS!
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« Reply #396 on: July 02, 2009, 08:59:28 PM »

haha i know that is why i posted it...

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« Reply #397 on: July 02, 2009, 09:02:01 PM »

Spencer and Heidi were on again today in the last half hour of the show.

Excellent follow up interview!

In case anyone missed it...

You can download and fast forward to the end to listen.
http://rss.nfowars.net/20090702_Thu_Alex.mp3
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« Reply #398 on: July 02, 2009, 09:03:44 PM »

Fox News RedEye: Speidi for 9/11 TROOTH

July 02, 2009

Red Eye w/ Greg Gutfeld.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3ZU6Uqf2gc




omg - red eye?

Greg Gutfeld?

talk about reverse backfire! anything out of his mouth is a bona fide lie, everybody knows that.
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« Reply #399 on: July 02, 2009, 09:06:00 PM »

of course i don't fall for their tactics but i am just saying that other people will. Specially people who barely know anything about 911 and other nwo topics. Yes fox news is stupid for saying that it is an insult to 911 victims family members, like you said "Never forget that the 911 truth movement was started by and for victims and family members"



The MSM has lost all credibility. You need to spread the truth with your lips face to face with people. Fox degrading a whole movement with stupid puppets does nothing. To the People that still believe this is normal:  you know what we don't want you and we don't need you, the NWO will need an army of morons to hide behind anyhow.
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