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Author Topic: Putin calls on U.S. to set pullout date in Iraq(rock on Putin!)  (Read 1023 times)
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« on: October 20, 2007, 08:28:56 AM »

     
MOSCOW, Russia (CNN) -- Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday called on the United States to set a date for withdrawal from Iraq, saying the U.S. military campaign had become a "pointless" battle against the Iraqi people.


Russian President Vladimir Putin takes questions Thursday on his annual "call-in show."

 Putin used a live Russian TV and radio broadcast to criticize U.S. policy in Iraq, which he said was aimed in part at seizing oil reserves.

The Russian leader's latest broadside against U.S. foreign policy came during his annual question-and-answer session with the Russian people.

Putin said the American battle in Iraq was "useless" and "totally counterproductive" because it was against the Iraqi people.

Putin said he agreed with President Bush that U.S.-led coalition forces should only withdraw once the Iraqi government was in full control of the country.

However, he said the lack of a deadline for withdrawal meant there was no impetus for the Iraqi leadership to take control of the security situation. "It's totally unacceptable to keep occupation forces there forever," he added.

He also repeated his warning against U.S. efforts to put elements of a missile defense system in Eastern Europe and confirmed his plans to step down from the presidency next year.

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Broadcast on state-run television, the annual "call-in show," as it was termed in the Russian media, featured Putin answering questions put to him by Russians citizens.

Putin was asked about comments attributed to former U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright suggesting that Siberia had too many natural resources to belong to one country.

Putin called those remarks "a kind of political erotica" and compared the situation with Iraq.

"It's a small country which is not quite able to protect itself but which has tremendous oil reserves. So what's going on there? We see perfectly well that they're good at shooting but not too good at establishing order," he said.

The broadcast was well-received in Russia, where Putin has used the call-ins to project the image of a leader responding directly to voters' concerns.

One Muscovite said: "I've watched the news, and I liked what Putin said. I think he's a brave and noble man." E-mail to a friend

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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2007, 12:27:08 PM »

We're still talking about Putin, remember.  He's still as much in on it as ever.  Nothing's changed, only that he apparently needed to say something cute to address the war opposition in his country.  It was a great symbolic statement.
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2007, 03:35:26 PM »

You think hes in on it? I'm not saying I dont believe you, I'd just like to get some reasons behind it. The NWO has its currupt hands on every part of the world.
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2007, 12:38:08 AM »

Real Time w/ Bill Maher - Gary Kasparov bashes Putin Interview

8 min - Oct 21, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaEv9H0W2oA
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2007, 12:54:48 PM »

'Rock on Putin' ?
WTF does that mean?
Putins a smart one for sure, but as much of a state terrorist as Bush or Blair.
The apartment bombings etc prove that.
I find it a little disconcerting when ppl in the west praise Putin, including influential ppl in our movement, ie Tarpley.
One snakes as bad as another, but I guess when your in the pit, gotta choose the less venomous, thats Putin, for sure.
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2007, 11:24:13 PM »

You think hes in on it? I'm not saying I dont believe you, I'd just like to get some reasons behind it. The NWO has its currupt hands on every part of the world.
Globalist banking and fascist interests have been around in the Soviet Union since their financial support of the Bolsheviks' coup d'état in 1917 which was one of the factors leading to the creation of the Soviet Union in 1922.  It's not really anything we're not still seeing the fascists do even today: financing enemies to nurture conditions for war and arms spending, the only condition needed being the existence of a threat, real or assumed.  This is why the Cold War was a godsend for the bankers and fascists.  They got to spend enormous amounts of "free" government money on weapons R&D while having a convenient excuse in propagandizing the whole racket.

Skip ahead to the collapse of the Soviet Union and you'll find that it didn't "collapse" as in the story where we persevered and exhausted their efforts to "win" the Cold War.  What happened is exactly what's happening here in the States: people were ready for revolt because they learned that they had been regarded as slaves whose lives and incomes were the property of the state.  They were on the streets by the tens and hundreds of thousands in rebellion!  The elite were forced to pull the plug on the racket like some den of thieves setting fire to their hideout to hide the evidence.  We see similar behavior all the time on Wall Street, no?  How many corporations file for bankruptcy with board members retiring in luxury?  The trick is in pulling out before things get too rough -- you get to keep your winnings while not having to pay any debts back so it often ends up being nothing more than a bailout to retirement.

The Soviet Union was exactly such.  Unfortunately, the people didn't secure the government for their use and the fascists/globalists were allowed to come back in, privatize, and further plunder the people and economy under Yeltsin.  So, you had a country set up with these fanciful social programs that were really just tools for greater private profit and widening the gap between the lower and upper classes, you had rebellion against it, and then the elite established themselves again in the clothing of capitalism and democracy but with the bite of corporatism.  Welcome to America.

Anyway, after the collapse you had Yeltsin who liberalized the market and truly finished off the economy and the people.  We may look at Russia now and say, "Look at what Communism did," but it was Yeltsin that finished wiping out the middle class because, again, the conditions were set to allow corporate takeover not only in labor industries but in banking, too, through the Federal Reserve... I mean through the Central Bank of Russia. Roll Eyes  The Bank was greedy and the people suffered for it, just like here in the States.

Putin came next as Yeltsin's health deteriorated but he came riding in on the same horse Giuliani is trying to ride.  Starting in August, 1999, and continuing through much of September, a series of bombs were detonated in various cities, mostly in apartment buildings, killing nearly 300 and injuring more than 550.  These are called the 9/99 bombings (click).  They were immediately attributed to Chechen rebels and the rhetoric was very quickly built up by Putin for war against Chechnya.  What was possibly not intended to be the last bomb was discovered before detonation and prevented which provided some clues, if not proof, of who was planting them.

In a remarkable act of being completely unlike American civil bureaucrats, after only 48 hours the local police had apprehended the suspects.  Should it be any surprise that, upon apprehension, the suspects produced credentials from the Federal Security Service (FSB), the successor to the notorious KGB?  Surely Putin still had very strong contacts within the FSB after his 16-year career with the KGB.  On 23 Sep 99, the day after that bomb was discovered, Putin ordered an offensive against the Chechens, probably partly to distract from the investigation into the recently found bomb.

A couple years later, when the Bush regime began its offensive against the Afghans after 9/11, Putin was receiving orders from Washington about how to deal with the Chechens.  So now we know Putin is dancing on strings under the same hand as Bush.

That's enough out of me.  I'm spent for now.  You can read more about Putin and his cutting out the free press, killing of journalists, etc. here (click), to start.

Don't forget: the Communist Manifesto is nothing more than a propaganda tool for another form of big government.  Just because we want to kick the fascists out doesn't mean we need communists to fill their shoes.  I know nobody here wants that but I'm simply saying, when the time is right, we must secure ourselves as sovereign, free people and be ready to rule ourselves.  If we're not ready, they'll take over again.

For that reason, we need to be careful about who we pick as friends.  Don't be inviting Putin or just anybody over to your Ron Paul meetups just because he says something you agree with about ending the war! Shocked  And let's not see any more threads on Prison Planet saying how much people like Stark and Putin, ya know? Wink  Know who your friends are!
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2007, 11:35:41 PM »

Yeah, what finalfrontier said.
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2007, 07:54:27 AM »

Gorbatchev -> Jeltsin -> Putin
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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2007, 08:12:46 AM »

I think Putey wants to pressure the USSA into a war with him. Things are moving too slowly for these war lovers. It's kinda quiet now. He wants to use his BigBoy Toys.
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