Why were flights 11, 175, 93, and 77 not being used 9 months prior to 911 ?

[nirosive]

This was posted on the dailypaul this morning

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/97122

Why were flights 11, 175, 93, and 77 not being used 9 months prior to 911 ?
Posted June 22nd, 2009 by sentinel

According to a Freedom of Information Act reply from the U.S. Bureau of Transportation Statistics, the last known pre-9/11 flights for three of the four aircraft involved in the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 took place in December, 2000, nine months before the attacks. No pre-9/11 flight information is available for these planes during 2001.

No pre-9/11 final flight information was provided for American Airlines flight 77 (N644AA).

U.S. Code of Federal Regulations requires carriers to provide on-time data for their commercial aircraft on a monthly basis.

Title 14 � 234.4 Reporting of on-time performance.

(a) Each reporting carrier shall file BTS Form 234 �On-Time Flight Performance Report� with the Office of Airline Information on a monthly basis ... and shall contain the following information:

(1) Carrier and flight number.
(2) Aircraft tail number.
(3) Origin and Destination airport codes.

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[agentbluescreen]

SO!!!








According to this, all THREE of Congosleazeball Rice's "Jets as missiles" warcraft were taken out of service on December 30th or 31st of 2000! This means that the Sept 11th Daniel CHapter 8 Show flights were the first flights for all three specially prepared and long "derelicted" 9/11 aircraft, on the day they were all, quite coincidentally, suddenly restored to active service after a mysterious 9 month hiatus from flight duty!

This is an inside job smoking gun yet again!

[gunDriller]

plus Bush-Cheney didn't take office until Jan. 20, 2001, or thereabouts, so that
indicates that the 9-11 perpetrators had tentacles in the Clinton administration
too.

or were just working extra-governmentally, unbeknownst to Billy C.

[KiwiClare]

http://www.911blogger.com/node/20456
According to a Freedom of Information Act reply from the U.S. Bureau of Transportation Statistics (BTS), the last known pre-9/11 flights for three of the four aircraft involved in the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 took place in December, 2000, nine months before the attacks, while no pre-9/11 final flight information was provided for American Airlines flight 77 (N644AA).

However, a discovered searchable online BTS database produces the following search results for three of the four 9/11 aircraft on September 10, 2001:

AA 11 departs San Francisco (SFO): AA 09/10/2001 0198 (flight number) N334AA (tail number) BOS (destination) 22:04 (wheels-off time)

UA 175 departs San Francisco (SFO): UA 09/10/2001 0170 (flight number) N612UA (tail number) BOS (destination) 13:44 (wheels-off time)

UA 93 departs San Francisco (SFO): UA 09/10/2001 0078 (flight number) N591UA (tail number) EWR (destination) 23:15 (wheels-off time)

[Mike Philbin]

Jones & Bermas were roasting this sweet tenderloin over the coals last night on the show.

Sorta damning evidence is flooding in from all sides now.

Litigate.

[smoofness2k8]

I am just a pig in shit over comments like the caller that mentioned this said that he spoke with AA executives (that were his close personal friends/ on AJ's show today (tuesday 23)) that said that they lost NO PLANES OUT OF THEIR FLEET that day..  zomg!!!  now how did 4 commuter planes with exactly 25% occupancy (with no family or friends waiting for them at the airports) just crash and yet no loss to AA's fleet...??

[John Galt]

I am just a pig in shit over comments like the caller that mentioned this said that he spoke with AA executives (that were his close personal friends/ on AJ's show today (tuesday 23)) that said that they lost NO PLANES OUT OF THEIR FLEET that day..  zomg!!!  now how did 4 commuter planes with exactly 25% occupancy (with no family or friends waiting for them at the airports) just crash and yet no loss to AA's fleet...??

And now we're learning that American Airlines recently changed their Wikipedia entry to state that Flights 11 and 77 never flew on 9/11.

WikiScanner discovered that American Airlines changed their Wikipedia entry to state that Flights 11 and 77 never flew on 9/11. Original entry was:

Two American Airlines aircraft were hijacked and crashed during the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack: American Airlines Flight 77 (a Boeing 757) and American Airlines Flight 11 (a Boeing 767).

New entry is as follows and it includes the bolded text below:

Two American Airlines aircraft were hijacked and crashed during the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack: Flight 77 (a Boeing 757) and Flight 11 (a Boeing 767).

Although these flights were daily departures before and a month after September 11, 2001. Neither flight 11 nor 77 were scheduled on September 11, 2001. The records kept by the Bureau of Transportation Statistics (www.bts.gov/gis/) do not list either flight that day.

--Wikipedia

Here's the proof: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=50132865

Here's the blog post that discusses the development:
http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2009/06/american-airlines-exposes-bushs-big-lie.html

Maybe its time to consider some of what the no planers have been saying.

~jg

[smoofness2k8]

And now we're learning that American Airlines recently changed their Wikipedia entry to state that Flights 11 and 77 never flew on 9/11.

http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2009/06/american-airlines-exposes-bushs-big-lie.html

Maybe its time to consider some of what the no planers have been saying.

~jg

Please put on your NOMEX to resist the flames...

[John Galt]

Please put on your NOMEX to resist the flames...

Yeah, I know

But I'll go wherever the truth leads me. I already believe that Flight 77 DID NOT hit the Pentagon. Now I question what hit the WTC North Tower, if not Flight 11. No matter what, I'm pretty near certain both towers and building 7 fell due to the thermite and bombs, not jet fuel.

~jg

[KiwiClare]

And now we're learning that American Airlines recently changed their Wikipedia entry to state that Flights 11 and 77 never flew on 9/11.

http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2009/06/american-airlines-exposes-bushs-big-lie.html

Maybe its time to consider some of what the no planers have been saying.

~jg

At that link it points to the evidence which indicates a global hawk was flown into the Pentagon.  

[smoofness2k8]

At that link it points to the evidence which indicates a global hawk was flown into the Pentagon.  

Which obviously wasn't hi-jacked... 

[Mike Philbin]

plus Bush-Cheney didn't take office until Jan. 20, 2001, or thereabouts, so that
indicates that the 9-11 perpetrators had tentacles in the Clinton administration
too.

or were just working extra-governmentally, unbeknownst to Billy C.

Your (our) government(s) MAY have been taken over by corporate bankers in the 1930's or so...  I just wonder what the f**k we've all been voting for this last seventy-odd years.

[smoofness2k8]

Your (our) government(s) MAY have been taken over by corporate bankers in the 1930's or so...  I just wonder what the f**k we've all been voting for this last seventy-odd years.

We have been deciding over 2 candidates that the bankers have presented as the best 2 options to lead our dying country....

[Stan]

One of the peeps on 911blogger raised an interesting point. Does this mean the flights were out of service or that all 2001 data prior to 9/10 was seized by the FBI?

It's certainly another smoking gun if the former is true.

[agentbluescreen]

Actually Scootie posted a believable debunking of this over on propagandamatrix the other day:

Guys, this story has been debunked ... the airlines must have only filed their information on a yearly basis at the end of each year or something and not done it at the end 2001 coz of the attacks.. the flights were used many times during 2001 as noted by people on the JREF forum.


Go to the BTS inquiry page.

Check "All statistics".

Flight 175 regularly flew out of San Francisco, so choose that as the Origin Airport.

Choose United Airlines as the airline.

Check September for the month.

Check All Days to see information for all of September.

Check 2001 for the year.

Click Submit. And wait (that's a big query).

When it comes back, use your browser to search for Flight 175's tail number, N612UA. And look! It flew out of SF on the 1st, the 5th, the 7th, and the 10th, and (surprise surprise) there are no further flights.

N612UA aka Flight 175 at JFK in April 2001: http://www.airliners.net/photo/168079/L/
Same plane at LAX, August 2001: http://www.airliners.net/photo/United%20Airlines/Boeing%20767-222/0188174/L

N334AA aka Flight 11 at O'Hare in July 2001: http://www.airliners.net/photo/American-Airlines/Boeing-767-223-ER/1502300/
In Stockholm, August 2001: http://www.airliners.net/photo/American-Airlines/Boeing-767-223-ER/0188142/

N644AA aka Flight 77 at Miami in Feb 2001: http://www.airliners.net/photo/American-Airlines/Boeing-757-223/0982095/
At Boston in August 2001: http://www.airliners.net/photo/American-Airlines/Boeing-757-223/0982095/

N591UA aka Flight 93 at Newark on September 8th, 2001: http://www.airliners.net/photo/United-Airlines/Boeing-757-222/0188157/

Regardless of other coincidences these three planes would have had to have logged less than 100 hours of flight time in that 9 month period not to have been re-inspected and filed any other inspection reports, and that is still rather suspicious regardless of any prior re-appearances in the fleet records closer to  9/11/2001

For instance they were not inspected for 270 days after Dec 30th 2000! So if they did 5 day 2 X 3 hour flights (6 hours a day minimum) in any regular scheduled duty, they would have had to have flown 38 weeks X 30 hours = 1,140 hours!

This particular "debunking" only shows less than a week of flight prior to their appointments with destiny.
 

[Jackson Holly]

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How does this relate to the earlier information that the 911 planes were not 'removed from the fleet' after the attacks?

[agentbluescreen]

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How does this relate to the earlier information that the 911 planes were not 'removed from the fleet' after the attacks?

I dunno I was just concerned with the accuracy of the original FOIA disclosure that shows the planes were "last 100 hour inspected" in Dec 2000.  How on earth they could still be around after 9/11 is a total weirdness, you'd think they'd at least disguise them or get them new reg codes.

[luckee1]

At that link it points to the evidence which indicates a global hawk was flown into the Pentagon.  

What the hell is  uniformed military men doing working on a civilian aircraft?  

[KiwiClare]

What the hell is  uniformed military men doing working on a civilian aircraft?  

That picture is supposed to be of a global hawk, which is a remotely-controlled military plane, I believe, [1] painted to look like a civilian plane - some believe a global hawk hit the Pentagon.  The photo  didn't have a caption on the website it was on [2].  The paint work on the little plane looks like the handiwork of a graphic artist and not real - a fake photo?

[1] http://www.fas.org/irp/program/collect/global_hawk.htm
[2] http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2009/06/american-airlines-exposes-bushs-big-lie.html

[vCFy7W3SFb]

that's a very poor photo shop if i ever saw one