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Lucian Solaris
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« Reply #80 on: October 02, 2009, 10:29:22 AM »

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Tell me do windows people still "defrag" the hardrive ?
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Yes WinBlow$ $laves still defag...err defrag...

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« Reply #81 on: October 02, 2009, 10:30:30 AM »

TRSDOS rules!
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« Reply #82 on: October 02, 2009, 10:40:44 AM »

Tell me do windows people still "defrag" the hardrive ?


I think they are supposed to. I was reading Mens Health mag the other day my dad gave me... It recommended to defrag your Windoze system and then do it every couple months from there on out. Sucks for them!

So heres a story... My neighbor has XP... it took him 9.5 minutes to boot up. He only uses his system for email & ebay. I told him Ubuntu would be perfect for him. He agreed. I came over and first fixed his XP setup... getting the boot time down to 3 minutes. God, the man was thrilled. His wife was thrilled who also uses the computer for email. They thought I was a god or something. Serious. Told me to go into business for fixing their XP! Haha. They said all their friends have the same prob. Anyways, I did a dual boot of XP and Ubuntu on his system. Ubuntu booted up in like 22 seconds... They were amazed.

This guy thought his computer had died too. He was ready to buy a brand new system. Its like Windows has this shitty OS, to force you into buying a new OS from them every couple years. Like how US auto makers make some crap car so i t breaks down and you have to send it in for servicing all the time. Anyhow, they tried Ubuntu for a week and I found out they went back to XP becuase thats what they know. Duh. OK. Why? Because their email is through MSN. They click the "MSN" icon on the desktop and they can access their email and websites. It was just easier for them then clicking Firefox icon and typing in msn.com. OK, whatever, fine. A few months go by and I went over their house.... I saw them using Ubuntu and I asked what was up? They said XP was booting at 6 minutes and "really slow". On their own they figured out how to do Ubuntu and they love it now. And they never even call me for help. Sweet. They know how to download games, programs, etc. Im actually proud of them. I did make a big MSN icon on their desktop so they could just click it and get to their email. I also set up the toolbar links in Firefox for them... Life is great and they'll never touch Windows again.
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« Reply #83 on: October 02, 2009, 11:01:07 AM »

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I think they are supposed to. I was reading Mens Health mag the other day my dad gave me... It recommended to defrag your Windoze system and then do it every couple months from there on out. Sucks for them!

So heres a story... My neighbor has XP... it took him 9.5 minutes to boot up. He only uses his system for email & ebay. I told him Ubuntu would be perfect for him. He agreed. I came over and first fixed his XP setup... getting the boot time down to 3 minutes. God, the man was thrilled. His wife was thrilled who also uses the computer for email. They thought I was a god or something. Serious. Told me to go into business for fixing their XP! Haha. They said all their friends have the same prob. Anyways, I did a dual boot of XP and Ubuntu on his system. Ubuntu booted up in like 22 seconds... They were amazed.

This guy thought his computer had died too. He was ready to buy a brand new system. Its like Windows has this shitty OS, to force you into buying a new OS from them every couple years. Like how US auto makers make some crap car so i t breaks down and you have to send it in for servicing all the time. Anyhow, they tried Ubuntu for a week and I found out they went back to XP becuase thats what they know. Duh. OK. Why? Because their email is through MSN. They click the "MSN" icon on the desktop and they can access their email and websites. It was just easier for them then clicking Firefox icon and typing in msn.com. OK, whatever, fine. A few months go by and I went over their house.... I saw them using Ubuntu and I asked what was up? They said XP was booting at 6 minutes and "really slow". On their own they figured out how to do Ubuntu and they love it now. And they never even call me for help. Sweet. They know how to download games, programs, etc. Im actually proud of them. I did make a big MSN icon on their desktop so they could just click it and get to their email. I also set up the toolbar links in Firefox for them... Life is great and they'll never touch Windows again.
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« Reply #84 on: October 03, 2009, 07:49:20 AM »

Ubuntu could give OSX a run for its money in the near future IMO.
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« Reply #85 on: October 03, 2009, 08:13:56 AM »

Ubuntu could give OSX a run for its money in the near future IMO.

It could, but since it's not corporate and mainstream, chances are very likely that it will continue to be ignored by the corporate mainstream media. The only corporate mainstream media tech person I've seen give Linux fair coverage is Leo Laporte. Kim Komando has made very few mentions of Linux, and when she does, she talks bad about it. Plus, Komando has pretty much never had anything good to say about Macs. Kim Komando is a Microsoft shill, but it makes me wonder if she is a Microsoft shill only because she is a Clearchannel employee.

And Digg? They're too busy censoring/burying articles which are anti-Microsoft and pro-Linux. Why? Because Digg is pretty much bought off and paid off by Microsoft.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=113178.0

http://blogs.computerworld.com/digg_dug_buried_how_linux_news_disappears

http://digg.com/tech_news/Microsoft_DIGG_New_Partnership_Launches_MS_Press_Release

http://chasnote.com/2007/07/25/digg-microsoft-deal-announced/

http://mashable.com/2007/07/25/microsoft-digg-ads/

http://blog.digg.com/?p=89
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« Reply #86 on: October 03, 2009, 10:08:29 AM »

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Most of us complain about Windows....But most likely everyone uses it because its EASY to use than UNIX based OSs such as Solaris, AIX, HP-UX and etc....The easy UNIX based OS closest to Windows like applications is OS-X....

Personally, I dont like Windows, but I use it because its easier to install stuff....

I had used Solaris, and other UNIX OSs but that was a big heachache...
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Ahhh HaHaHaHahahaha!!!

Are you kidding me, every time I sit in front of a windows install to either fix it or even use it...

* Lucian Solaris shudders

I feel like I'm in a Play School themed straight jacket infested with bugs 'n worms! (pun intended)

The only thing worse than it is Mac!  How Apple created the most non-straight forward interface is beyond me.  I love my UNIX environments.  It's freedom, I can do as I please without resistance.  It is the full potential of my computer at my fingertips.  I can run programs on another system in my house and have the program window display on my laptop's screen!  I can configure and design my systems as I please.  Many small problems have been solved by the open source community, but it's like owning and maintaining a race car, you gotta know what you're doing under the hood!

It's like standing on the side of a mountain, 100+ miles from ass-backward society, with a river and plenty of trees, food available at the hunt, and a freakin' free energy powered mini-cabin fitted with an EcoloBlue, heater, freezer, radio equipment, and workshop to sleep/kill time in!  Linux freed my computing capabilities, and no game could ever buy me back into restrictive, "thou art retarded and we knoweth best" WinBlow$!


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« Reply #87 on: October 03, 2009, 10:44:23 AM »

Would you ever trust a vendor that sold an OS that allowed anyone by default to log in via telnet and delete any file ?

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« Reply #88 on: October 03, 2009, 07:34:09 PM »

The only time I ever use Windows is for Word Processing and special printer-related tasks. My printer works in Linux, but it's not quite as usable with the manufacturer's drivers as I'd like for specialized tasks. I have not found a word-processing solution that offers reasonable compatibility to Microsoft and a decent enough set of features yet in Linux. I guess we'll just have to give it more time.

I've used VirtualBox in the past, but I find it tends to get corrupted and you have to reinstall after a while, especially after a power loss. Can anyone recommend any better virtualization software?
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« Reply #89 on: October 04, 2009, 08:53:33 AM »

The only time I ever use Windows is for Word Processing and special printer-related tasks. My printer works in Linux, but it's not quite as usable with the manufacturer's drivers as I'd like for specialized tasks. I have not found a word-processing solution that offers reasonable compatibility to Microsoft and a decent enough set of features yet in Linux. I guess we'll just have to give it more time.

I've used VirtualBox in the past, but I find it tends to get corrupted and you have to reinstall after a while, especially after a power loss. Can anyone recommend any better virtualization software?

I don't know what the best virtualization software is. I can only give you a list of virtualization software so you can try them out and decide for yourself.

VirtualBox
Parallels Workstation
VMWare Player/Server
Win4Lin (this was the first one I used.....I used it back when I used Linspire 4.5 and Xandros 3.0)
QEMU/KQEMU
KVM
Bochs
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« Reply #90 on: October 05, 2009, 10:50:28 AM »

The only time I ever use Windows is for Word Processing and special printer-related tasks. My printer works in Linux, but it's not quite as usable with the manufacturer's drivers as I'd like for specialized tasks. I have not found a word-processing solution that offers reasonable compatibility to Microsoft and a decent enough set of features yet in Linux. I guess we'll just have to give it more time.

I've used VirtualBox in the past, but I find it tends to get corrupted and you have to reinstall after a while, especially after a power loss. Can anyone recommend any better virtualization software?

I use VirtualBox becuase Canon doesnt seem to support the open source arena with any drivers. My scanner is a pretty good one that also does slides in high quality. Id like to ditch this thing, but it was really expensive at the time it was purchased so I have to plug away and boot up XP in VB for now. In my experience of VB, Ive never had a prob except when needing to a do a major upgrade of VB you usually need to uninstall it before running the upgrade DEB file. It used to not work after a while when a new upgrade came out, requiring you to run some commands in the terminal, but I havent had to do that anymore. Try out the newest version and see how it works. Im pretty happy with it. You still cant do high demand 3D games or anything, but it still works great for most everything else.
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« Reply #91 on: October 05, 2009, 09:07:42 PM »

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LoL they really think anything anti-Google is Microsoft shilling?

Now I do believe Microsoft is guilty of what they accuse them of (hiring PR agents to shill teh intarwebz), but Google isn't 'not evil'!

yes, it is a fact that Microsoft pays shills good money to troll usenet, & online forums that discuss OS technology. they have been doing this since the days of Compuserve.
the "Windows 7" thread posted by chris2005
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=137649.0
is a good example. i read the whole thread in it's entirety & the OP (chris2005) is definetly a paid Microsoft evangelist. i have been following & documenting Microsoft's dirty tricks for 10 years. i have a lot of documentation as well as court exhibits.

I couldn't tell you if Roy is an actual Google shill, he could be like any one of us with an itchy conspiracy trigger finger against Microsoft.  Some people believe Google shits pure shiny white gold bricks for some reason.[/color]

Roy is not a shill. i frequent Boycott Novell regularly. Roy does post news articles regarding GNU/Linux use. Google just happens to be one of those companies that make extensive use of GNU/Linux

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« Reply #92 on: October 06, 2009, 12:41:39 AM »

It's possible he's just a mind-controlled zombie, and not a paid shill. Either way, he's on the side of evil. Anyone who supports Eugenicsoft is flirting with the dark side.
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« Reply #93 on: October 06, 2009, 08:39:29 AM »

The only time I ever use Windows is for Word Processing and special printer-related tasks. My printer works in Linux, but it's not quite as usable with the manufacturer's drivers as I'd like for specialized tasks. I have not found a word-processing solution that offers reasonable compatibility to Microsoft and a decent enough set of features yet in Linux. I guess we'll just have to give it more time.

I've used VirtualBox in the past, but I find it tends to get corrupted and you have to reinstall after a while, especially after a power loss. Can anyone recommend any better virtualization software?

I used Sun xVM Virtual Box to test custom distro builds, was ok.
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« Reply #94 on: October 06, 2009, 10:19:29 AM »

Other than Ubuntu, what would be a good linux OS to dive into for learning how the actual OS works underneath the GUI?

I was thinking Slackware, but I don't know about how to remaster the ISO to include a different window manager.
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« Reply #95 on: October 06, 2009, 10:44:32 AM »

It's possible he's just a mind-controlled zombie, and not a paid shill. Either way, he's on the side of evil. Anyone who supports Eugenicsoft is flirting with the dark side.

He could be paid indirectly too. Ive got a twitter acct and someone Im following posts some crap like "I just LOVE Windows 7. It does everything I want it to do. Its better than Mac or Linux!" and Im thinking... this is just some dumb gal who got paid to post that. But further research and messaging this gal (young, pretty,looks clueless IMO)... I bet she has never even seen a linux system. I bet you she doesnt even know someone who uses linux. How can she post what she posted? So I find out she has some blog and Microsoft has given her a free version of Windows 7 plus free Office to push their products on her blog! Of course she is going to love Windows..... Instead of paying $750, she gets it for free.

And here Im doing what shes doing for free too... on linux. Which I bet shes never seen before.
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« Reply #96 on: October 06, 2009, 11:34:40 AM »

Lightening through cable fried modem, routers, and ethernet cards in two computers. My computer in surge protector with along with cable damaged MB USB connections. Then week later several power outages finished MB.

In process of upgrading MB to dual core. Micosoft is not my friend although been there since 3.1 would part ways but have need of window's office. Looked at Ubuntu how does one best solve this and security issues during initial setup? Setup two operating systems? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.




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« Reply #97 on: October 06, 2009, 11:41:12 AM »

The only time I ever use Windows is for Word Processing and special printer-related tasks. My printer works in Linux, but it's not quite as usable with the manufacturer's drivers as I'd like for specialized tasks. I have not found a word-processing solution that offers reasonable compatibility to Microsoft and a decent enough set of features yet in Linux. I guess we'll just have to give it more time.

I've used VirtualBox in the past, but I find it tends to get corrupted and you have to reinstall after a while, especially after a power loss. Can anyone recommend any better virtualization software?

VMware server is free and very stable if you are having problems with Virtual Box.

Also, have you tried OpenOffice 3.1? It's completely compatible with Office 2007 documents.
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« Reply #98 on: October 06, 2009, 11:50:06 AM »

Lightening through cable fried modem, routers, and ethernet cards in two computers. My computer in surge protector with along with cable damaged MB USB connections. Then week later several power outages finished MB.

In process of upgrading MB to dual core. Micosoft is not my friend although been there since 3.1 would part ways but have need of window's office. Looked at Ubuntu how does one best solve this and security issues during initial setup? Setup two operating systems? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.






Are you looking to do a dual boot?
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot

Just install Windows OS first (makes it easier when you set up GRUB).

I'd split the harddrive 50/50 with the OSes to start out with.
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« Reply #99 on: October 06, 2009, 12:31:17 PM »

Are you looking to do a dual boot?
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot

Just install Windows OS first (makes it easier when you set up GRUB).

I'd split the harddrive 50/50 with the OSes to start out with.


Thanks, reed026 for link this is probably best route for now.
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« Reply #100 on: October 07, 2009, 02:33:13 AM »

He could be paid indirectly too. Ive got a twitter acct and someone Im following posts some crap like "I just LOVE Windows 7. It does everything I want it to do. Its better than Mac or Linux!" and Im thinking... this is just some dumb gal who got paid to post that. But further research and messaging this gal (young, pretty,looks clueless IMO)... I bet she has never even seen a linux system. I bet you she doesnt even know someone who uses linux. How can she post what she posted? So I find out she has some blog and Microsoft has given her a free version of Windows 7 plus free Office to push their products on her blog! Of course she is going to love Windows..... Instead of paying $750, she gets it for free.

And here Im doing what shes doing for free too... on linux. Which I bet shes never seen before.

That's more believable.
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« Reply #101 on: October 07, 2009, 02:37:38 AM »

VMware server is free and very stable if you are having problems with Virtual Box.

Also, have you tried OpenOffice 3.1? It's completely compatible with Office 2007 documents.

I've used it, but the compatibility is less than what I needed.
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« Reply #102 on: October 07, 2009, 09:27:36 AM »

He could be paid indirectly too. Ive got a twitter acct and someone Im following posts some crap like "I just LOVE Windows 7. It does everything I want it to do. Its better than Mac or Linux!" and Im thinking... this is just some dumb gal who got paid to post that. But further research and messaging this gal (young, pretty,looks clueless IMO)... I bet she has never even seen a linux system. I bet you she doesnt even know someone who uses linux. How can she post what she posted? So I find out she has some blog and Microsoft has given her a free version of Windows 7 plus free Office to push their products on her blog! Of course she is going to love Windows..... Instead of paying $750, she gets it for free.

And here Im doing what shes doing for free too... on linux. Which I bet shes never seen before.

Ain't that the truth.
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« Reply #103 on: October 07, 2009, 10:17:47 AM »

The funny thing is.... the only way she knows is to pay $750 for the software, like the Chris guy that was posting here. Didnt he state something like he buys all his software and he is proud of it? $750 is a lot of money for two pieces of software IMO. Hell, you could start up a company for $750 and become highly successful if you had the motivation. Heck! You could copy a lot of AJ dvds for $750 and wake A LOT of people up if you made the decision to switch to a free OS.

But my point is... the only way MOST people know is to pay up the yinyang for software (microsoft)... or even for computers (macs) and then they have to justify themselves by jumping into linux threads and bashing linux becuase they couldnt put the disc in the drive and run it. Ive been doing Ubuntu for 3, almost 4 years now and setting up a system NOW with 9.04 (or even 9.10) is far easier than it was when I got into it. I remember Redhat waaaay back in the day years and years ago at CompUSA for $50. I got a free disc of it at a computer show soon after and never did get it to work and that was the last of linux until I came across Ubuntu. Ive tried lots of different OS's since 4 years ago, but keep coming back to Ubuntu.

Im sure Chris paid another $900 for Photoshop, $1200 for his 3D max, $600 for his Huh , $150 for Norton, $1000 for all his games, and on and on....sheez... You could get a 1971 fixer upper Mach 1 super cobra Smiley ***AND*** pass out Alex Jones dvds!!!!!

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« Reply #104 on: October 07, 2009, 10:20:41 AM »

The funny thing is.... the only way she knows is to pay $750 for the software, like the Chris guy that was posting here. Didnt he state something like he buys all his software and he is proud of it? $750 is a lot of money for two pieces of software IMO. Hell, you could start up a company for $750 and become highly successful if you had the motivation. Heck! You could copy a lot of AJ dvds for $750 and wake A LOT of people up if you made the decision to switch to a free OS.

But my point is... the only way MOST people know is to pay up the yinyang for software (microsoft)... or even for computers (macs) and then they have to justify themselves by jumping into linux threads and bashing linux becuase they couldnt put the disc in the drive and run it. Ive been doing Ubuntu for 3, almost 4 years now and setting up a system NOW with 9.04 (or even 9.10) is far easier than it was when I got into it. I remember Redhat waaaay back in the day years and years ago at CompUSA for $50. I got a free disc of it and never did get it to work and that was the last of linux until I came across Ubuntu. Ive tried lots of different OS's since 4 years ago, but keep coming back to Ubuntu.

Im sure Chris paid another $900 for Photoshop, $1200 for his 3D max, $600 for his Huh , $150 for Norton, $1000 for all his games, and on and on....sheez... You could get a 1971 fixer upper Mach 1 super cobra Smiley ***AND*** pass out Alex Jones dvds!!!!!

YOU DECIDE!

Piracy is part of the Microsoft Marketing Strategy.

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« Reply #105 on: October 07, 2009, 10:29:04 AM »

Piracy is part of the Microsoft Marketing Strategy.

I have that on very, very, very, good authority.





sand it's not in the Wine strategy  Grin
Supposedly you can't run a pirated copy of PS in wine. However, I've never tried so I can't report on that.
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« Reply #106 on: October 07, 2009, 10:38:46 AM »

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There is nothing special about piracy.  The biggest anti-piracy measure (product keys/disc checkers) is broken in 95% of software out there by nice little hack-tools (keygens/patchers).  Software is pretty dumb, all you gotta do most of the time is put in the right code and viola!

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« Reply #107 on: October 07, 2009, 11:22:25 AM »

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Well there's one thing special about piracy:

It's not stealing.  There is nothing that is purchase-able that is permanently removed.  It is akin to walking into a dealership and using an exotic device to instantly clone one of their most expensive cars to drive off the lot.  Would buying a car then become a license to use intellectual property (the brand/design/shape)?  Piracy today is flat out not following information control codes, statutes, and social standards.  It's like claiming copyright on DNA/RNA, which is simply [thus far understood as] a biological instruction set.


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« Reply #108 on: October 10, 2009, 04:52:30 AM »

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Well there's one thing special about piracy:

It's not stealing.  There is nothing that is purchase-able that is permanently removed.  It is akin to walking into a dealership and using an exotic device to instantly clone one of their most expensive cars to drive off the lot.  Would buying a car then become a license to use intellectual property (the brand/design/shape)?  Piracy today is flat out not following information control codes, statutes, and social standards.  It's like claiming copyright on DNA/RNA, which is simply [thus far understood as] a biological instruction set.



Totally agree.
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« Reply #109 on: October 10, 2009, 06:29:01 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDiaQrZviyc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHO8l-Bd1O4

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8DF58E9C3BB72043&search_query=mac+windows+linux

mac vs windows vs linux...

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« Reply #110 on: October 10, 2009, 12:51:38 PM »

I've tried all the distros and Arch is the best for powerusers that know how it works under the hood and want the latest software.
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« Reply #111 on: October 10, 2009, 01:13:49 PM »

I've tried all the distros and Arch is the best for powerusers that know how it works under the hood and want the latest software.

What happens when you recompile a package ?
How does it handle the changed dependent software ?

Not that this problem is specific to Arch.

See Also : BSD Ports && Gentoo Portage System

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« Reply #112 on: October 10, 2009, 01:56:50 PM »

What happens when you recompile a package ?
How does it handle the changed dependent software ?

Not that this problem is specific to Arch.

See Also : BSD Ports && Gentoo Portage System


It uses a custom build system combined with a lightweight package manager connected to the best repositories.
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« Reply #113 on: October 10, 2009, 01:58:06 PM »

It uses a custom build system combined with a lightweight package manager connected to the best repositories.

My bad, it does use a "Ports style system".

What is a ports-like system?

'Ports' is a system used by *BSD, which allows source packages to be downloaded, unpacked, patched, compiled and installed. A 'port' is merely a small directory on the user's computer, named after the corresponding software to be installed, which contains a few files with instructions for downloading and installing an application from source, typically by navigating to the directory, or port, and doing 'make' and 'make install'. The system will then download, compile and install the desired software.
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« Reply #114 on: October 18, 2009, 09:53:15 AM »

Currently running Mint 7 XFCE as a live CD. For some reason it runs WAY faster than Xubuntu Jaunty and Infowars OS (which is based on Xubuntu Jaunty). I think I'm switching to Mint. Grin
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« Reply #115 on: October 18, 2009, 10:35:54 AM »

Currently running Mint 7 XFCE as a live CD. For some reason it runs WAY faster than Xubuntu Jaunty and Infowars OS (which is based on Xubuntu Jaunty). I think I'm switching to Mint. Grin

I have been running mint for some time now.
I will be looking for this "infowars OS" also.
(a link to the place I can download and burn would be nice...hint hint.)
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« Reply #116 on: October 18, 2009, 07:34:16 PM »

If you've got 6+ gig of ram, and a fast processor, u can check out the x64 version. Otherwise the 32 bit is fine.
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« Reply #117 on: October 18, 2009, 11:01:00 PM »

Of all the Linux distros I've tried, I like Mint the best.
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« Reply #118 on: October 19, 2009, 05:43:29 AM »

I have been running mint for some time now.
I will be looking for this "infowars OS" also.
(a link to the place I can download and burn would be nice...hint hint.)

It ain't much, but here goes.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9LI01VVL
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« Reply #119 on: December 08, 2009, 01:04:11 AM »

Black screen of death: At least they can keep the old BSOD acronym.
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