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BANG! holocaust denial = 7/7 conspiracists are nuts !
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« Reply #121 on: June 30, 2009, 02:53:20 PM » |
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Not watching it either, but I wouldn't be surprised that the BBC would make us look like we're linked with Islamic Fundamentalists.
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« Reply #122 on: June 30, 2009, 02:54:06 PM » |
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Not watching it either, but I wouldn't be surprised that the BBC would make us look like we're linked with Islamic Fundamentalists.
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« Reply #123 on: June 30, 2009, 02:57:15 PM » |
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LOL, Alex has just been on . Now they say the evidence clearly shows the 4 muslims carried out these attacks .
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« Reply #124 on: June 30, 2009, 02:58:27 PM » |
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LOL, Alex has just been on . Now they say the evidence clearly shows the 4 muslims carried out these attacks .
LOL! What proof? Did i blink and miss it what a shocker - the govt dont want to comment ! keep spreadin that conspiracy theory guys ! |
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« Reply #125 on: June 30, 2009, 03:00:36 PM » |
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man, the tone of every single voice-over sentence (and the sneering way they're delivered) is so disturbing, so ominous, so corporate - they even mentioned Kollerstrom's Auschwitz article. it's like REAL (proper) propaganda for a mentally disabled populace... wow, the conclusion? we must WIPE OUT ALL CONSPIRACY THEORIES, and their originators. very, very worrying bullshit. EYES WIDE SHUT  |
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« Reply #126 on: June 30, 2009, 03:02:02 PM » |
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man, the tone of every single voice-over sentence (and the sneering way they're delivered) is so disturbing, so ominous, so corporate - they even mentioned Kollerstrom's Auschwitz article. it's like REAL (proper) propaganda for a mentally disabled populace... wow, the conclusion? we must WIPE OUT ALL CONSPIRACY THEORIES, and their originators. very, very worrying bullshit. EYES WIDE SHUT yeah - we are to blame for the muslims not trusting the govt . . . what the hell??? thing about mumbai attacks on ch4+1 now terror night. . . why? they up to something ? |
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« Reply #127 on: June 30, 2009, 03:06:39 PM » |
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I just watched a couple of Min's, its just as laughable as the other programmes in the conspiracy files series. They don't even try to give credible explanation's to all the coincidental evidence of staged attacks, instead they just parade around a group of "victims" of the evil conspiracy theorists rants. Interestingly there is also a Mumbai terror doc on channel 4.
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« Reply #128 on: June 30, 2009, 03:11:56 PM » |
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oh my god what a hitpiece...at least they actually interviewed the guy who said he saw metal being blown up and how he supported 7/7 truth. They said some people confirmed the bomb was on the train ... who are they?! ... Give evidence BBC... put the quote on screen ... thats what Alex would do. A paper exercise!? Lmao! A paper exercise which matched only two... not all three ... of the train stations ... how exactly would that send "hairs on the back of my neck standing up right"? ... they made no mention of the drills on 9/11 and OKC ... which is the main reason we find it so fishy ... instead they just showed hate emails ... which were probably sent by government operatives to discredit us. No mention of the bandaged man Obachike saw... no mention of obachike himself... Obligatory character attacks... blah blah ... Muad Dib and Shayler believe they're the messiah, kellerstroms a hollocaust denier.... No mention of the fact that the explosives were reported by several news outlets to be of military origin... Ooo... they said they wanna attack us ... see! they confessed!  |
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« Reply #129 on: June 30, 2009, 03:15:30 PM » |
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we knew what this would be - lets hoe some newbies saw it and will go watch ripple effect or search for alex jones -
thats the best thing to come from that
o my god i just had a flash
the big build up re meeting on 7/7 in b`ham central mosque
the way they made it seem the muslims are all pissed
something is coming and ripple effect will be cited as being the cause
then will come the clamp down !
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« Reply #130 on: June 30, 2009, 03:16:19 PM » |
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I was waiting the whole hour for that. The only two "conspiracy" advocates either believed they were Jesus or that Auschwitz was a holiday camp.
Then you have the token survivor who talks about hatemail and how conspiracy theorists hate the victims.
The ex-police commisioner (or whatever) also thinks doubters of the official conspiracy theory encourage terrorism.
I'm not surprised. I just think it's funny how they're so predictable and I mentioned the Auschwitz thing just a few seconds before they brought it up.
Douchebags.
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« Reply #131 on: June 30, 2009, 03:16:31 PM » |
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It was pretty abysmal, the bits that I watched, I'll watch the rest later.. If anyone wants to watch this propaganda there's a torrent here: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4982414 |
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« Reply #132 on: June 30, 2009, 03:18:36 PM » |
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There's a torrent here if anyone wants to see the propaganda and selective "debunking" by the UK government propaganda organ the BBC.
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« Reply #134 on: June 30, 2009, 03:20:40 PM » |
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A paper exercise!? Lmao! A paper exercise which matched only two... not all three ... of the train stations ... how exactly would that send "hairs on the back of my neck standing up right"? ... they made no mention of the drills on 9/11 and OKC ... which is the main reason we find it so fishy ... instead they just showed hate emails ... which were probably sent by government operatives to discredit us. Indeed. If it was so irrelevant then why was he all over TV talking about a thousand-strong company pushing a terror drill? I also love the way, 50 minutes in, they talk of Ripple Effect asif it was proved completely fraudulent based only on their opinion. Hacks. |
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« Reply #135 on: June 30, 2009, 03:22:16 PM » |
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« Reply #136 on: June 30, 2009, 03:23:10 PM » |
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lets re watch and de bunk their de bunking !
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« Reply #137 on: June 30, 2009, 03:24:50 PM » |
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What gets me is that even if the elite did just come out and say "Yea, we did it, and 9/11 too. So what are you going to do about it?"
Most people would shrug their shoulders and change channels on the tv!
So, why don't they just admit it? - - Probably because there is a percentage (a lot of them here on infowars) who would do something!? (Maybe that's why they are trying to criminalize everyone who can think?)
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« Reply #138 on: June 30, 2009, 03:25:39 PM » |
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lets re watch and de bunk their de bunking !
When a DIVX version comes out im probably gonna download it and make a video in response to it... simialr to david shaylers "9/11 and the british broadcasting conspiracy" |
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« Reply #139 on: June 30, 2009, 03:29:50 PM » |
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Did you not get what that was all about?
They are trying to turn ppl against us
to make them see us as something more than just nuts - to make ppl see us as instigators of terror - why else the big thing inc the date (7/7) about the meeting in bham central mosque between conspiracy theorists and muslims
they are trying to convince ppl we are insighting musilms with our anti govt spin,
and then something will happen
and this time it will be us to blame for firing up the muslims ! then they will clamp down on us !
RED ALERT PPL !!!! BIG GIANT RED FLAG WAVING !!!!!
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« Reply #140 on: June 30, 2009, 03:31:01 PM » |
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Man, that was fast. I can't watch it again though. Too painful.
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« Reply #141 on: June 30, 2009, 03:31:21 PM » |
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good !
anyone going to the meeting they mentioned in birmingham mosque this coming 7th?
wonder what happened at obachikes meeting?
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« Reply #142 on: June 30, 2009, 03:31:52 PM » |
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« Reply #143 on: June 30, 2009, 03:34:19 PM » |
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good !
anyone going to the meeting they mentioned in birmingham mosque this coming 7th?
wonder what happened at obachikes meeting?
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« Reply #144 on: June 30, 2009, 03:36:24 PM » |
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i could tell u but its gross so your better off not knowing - major messy disaster at home ! Had my tickets and all - told my mate in london to go but dont know yet if he did - not sure if they`d let him pick up my ticket since he didnt have my card !
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« Reply #145 on: June 30, 2009, 03:38:22 PM » |
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« Reply #146 on: June 30, 2009, 04:01:22 PM » |
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Did you not get what that was all about?
They are trying to turn ppl against us
to make them see us as something more than just nuts - to make ppl see us as instigators of terror - why else the big thing inc the date (7/7) about the meeting in bham central mosque between conspiracy theorists and muslims
they are trying to convince ppl we are insighting musilms with our anti govt spin,
and then something will happen
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« Reply #147 on: June 30, 2009, 04:03:07 PM » |
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Feck it i see the elephant and i`m gonna yell about it before it squashes everyone !
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« Reply #148 on: June 30, 2009, 04:07:39 PM » |
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Did you not get what that was all about?
They are trying to turn ppl against us
to make them see us as something more than just nuts - to make ppl see us as instigators of terror - why else the big thing inc the date (7/7) about the meeting in bham central mosque between conspiracy theorists and muslims
they are trying to convince ppl we are insighting musilms with our anti govt spin,
and then something will happen
and this time it will be us to blame for firing up the muslims ! then they will clamp down on us !
RED ALERT PPL !!!! BIG GIANT RED FLAG WAVING !!!!!
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« Reply #149 on: June 30, 2009, 04:13:42 PM » |
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This is getting scary... the whole thing with the policeman was basically arguing that conspiracy theorists detach muslims from the government making it less likely they will be able to uncover terrorist plots in advance... they're basically saying that conspiracy theories are dangerous and make terrorism less likely to be stopped ... thats a dangerous spin ... as if the nutjob stereotype wasnt bad enough now they are directly linking us with islamic terrorism.
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« Reply #150 on: June 30, 2009, 04:15:55 PM » |
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You should rename the other thread... "BBC predictive programming: 7/7 truthers promote islamic extremism" or something.
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« Reply #151 on: June 30, 2009, 04:16:10 PM » |
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i would love to be wrong on this
but i really think that is what that whole program was for . . . it certainly wasn`t a serious attempt to debunk the conspiracies - more an attepmt to draw attention to them for people who haven`t read about them yet !
If they are trying to diminish us it is because they are worried we are getting stronger !
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« Reply #152 on: June 30, 2009, 04:19:18 PM » |
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Yeh and the constant 9/11 comparisons linked 9/11 truth in aswell ... its just like Glenn Beck and his "von brunn was a hero to 9/11 truth" lie ... and the mention of Muad'Dibs arrest and Kellerstroms holocaust denial brings it all in full circle...
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« Reply #153 on: June 30, 2009, 04:20:35 PM » |
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round we go mate . . . round and round !
lets see what happens over this meeting on the 7th !
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i would love to be wrong on this
but i really think that is what that whole program was for . . . it certainly wasn`t a serious attempt to debunk the conspiracies - more an attepmt to draw attention to them for people who haven`t read about them yet !
If they are trying to diminish us it is because they are worried we are getting stronger !
and scootle - clever dont you think? because dangerous is a far worse label than nuts and they have powers to act against dangerous ppl, not so much nutty ppl !
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"Hopefully there will be people in the police service, the security service and in government who will realise how important conspiracy theories are. And how important it is… that every attempt is made to try and counteract them." But what if they are 'true'? Should every attempt still be made to try and counteract them even if they are true? BTW, I wanted to leave a comment on there but there's no input form to do so. Do they deliberately shield 'anonymous users'/'guests' from leaving a comment? I'm getting sick of all these bogus 'respected' newssites who insist they are so impartial and truthful yet I need to register on their goddamn site - which means they can put it into their big fat database, send the user information over to Lexis Nexis or some other service that will pay them money for it, and that will be data mined and cross referenced with all the other stuff that e-mail address lookup will reveal. All semantical games and psychological mindtricks in this article. Meanwhile, no real attempt is made to reinforce the flimsy story of the 'Official Conspiracy Theory' - which has holes so big you could drive a truck through it. But whatever. |
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« Reply #156 on: June 30, 2009, 04:37:55 PM » |
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Hey they posted it on BBC iPlayer really quickly...
Bet it gets posted on You Tube or Google Video really quick and does not get pulled for copyright violations. Will watch it now and let you know what I think.
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« Reply #157 on: June 30, 2009, 06:02:28 PM » |
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I'm really glad to read all over your posts, because to be quiet frank i found the movie deeply upsetting.
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It was the BBC hitpiece of 9/11 back in 2002 or so that first got me looking at 9/11 "conspiracy theories"...I wonder if this new one will have the same effect on people
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