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Author Topic: BBC hit piece on 7/7 actually confirms that Ripple Effect is 100% true!!!  (Read 50996 times)
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« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2009, 05:37:32 AM »

here's an interesting interview with Belgrano Enquiry's Nick Kollestrum:
http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?hl=en&q=Nick+Kollerstrom&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=il9DSsfeK9GrjAfgq_mtDw&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=307354145#

there are many who are debunking Nick Kollestrom, but he's the guy who's accompanying Obachike on the 7/7 presentation at the end of the month in London.

Obachike says this is conclusive 'cctv' footage that he was there, in Tavistock Square, on the day of the bus bombing. Blink, you'll miss it. But he's there.
http://www.the4thbomb.com/conclusive-obachike-cctv-evidence/
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« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2009, 12:34:34 PM »

Peter Power comments on the Documentary

79. At 09:33am on 26 Jun 2009, PGPOwer wrote:

Several months ago I supported the BBC team making the subsequently postponed 7/7 Conspiracy Files programme (now to be broadcast 0n 30 June) as I had the temerity to say on UK TV on 7 July 2005 that my company had that day also run an exercise involving simultaneous bombs on the London underground. A few days before so had more than one major London based origination and before that a BBC Panorama programme had done the same thing. The point being that the underground system in London has since 1885, been one of the most attacked structures in the UK apart from Belfast.

It follows that a company like ours that helps many organisations prepare for crises (a) always seeks to run one or more client based exercises and (b) will choose a scenario based on a realistic threat analysis. My comment on TV four years ago was intended to encourage others to do the same and at a time when the terrorist threat level remains very high to test their response in advance.

A message on this site dated 24 June mistakenly says that both 9/11 & 7/7 the respective governments were engaged in training simulations. The inaccurate assumption being our exercise that day was part of government training.

Regrettably there are many people who will always put conspiracy above coincidence and we still get menacing or otherwise nuisance emails and telephone calls every day.

Having already made available to the BBC our unexpurgated exercise material used in 2005 I look forward to this programme on 30 June and hope it will debunk some of the rather bizarre stories. However, I would still rather live in an open society where people can challenge official statements, but they in turn must be prepared to reconsider their assumptions if a cogent case is made to separate fact from fiction. I hope this will be the case next week.

Peter Power

post 79 at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2009/06/the_conspiracy_files_77.html#P82059290


 His point seems to be that it is quite normal for private companies to run practice drills simulating attacks on the London underground,perhaps there are terrorists everywhere.
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« Reply #42 on: June 26, 2009, 02:10:11 PM »

Peter Power comments on the Documentary

79. At 09:33am on 26 Jun 2009, PGPOwer wrote:

Several months ago I supported the BBC team making the subsequently postponed 7/7 Conspiracy Files programme (now to be broadcast 0n 30 June) as I had the temerity to say on UK TV on 7 July 2005 that my company had that day also run an exercise involving simultaneous bombs on the London underground. A few days before so had more than one major London based origination and before that a BBC Panorama programme had done the same thing. The point being that the underground system in London has since 1885, been one of the most attacked structures in the UK apart from Belfast.

It follows that a company like ours that helps many organisations prepare for crises (a) always seeks to run one or more client based exercises and (b) will choose a scenario based on a realistic threat analysis. My comment on TV four years ago was intended to encourage others to do the same and at a time when the terrorist threat level remains very high to test their response in advance.

A message on this site dated 24 June mistakenly says that both 9/11 & 7/7 the respective governments were engaged in training simulations. The inaccurate assumption being our exercise that day was part of government training.

Regrettably there are many people who will always put conspiracy above coincidence and we still get menacing or otherwise nuisance emails and telephone calls every day.

Having already made available to the BBC our unexpurgated exercise material used in 2005 I look forward to this programme on 30 June and hope it will debunk some of the rather bizarre stories. However, I would still rather live in an open society where people can challenge official statements, but they in turn must be prepared to reconsider their assumptions if a cogent case is made to separate fact from fiction. I hope this will be the case next week.

Peter Power

post 79 at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2009/06/the_conspiracy_files_77.html#P82059290


 His point seems to be that it is quite normal for private companies to run practice drills simulating attacks on the London underground,perhaps there are terrorists everywhere.

OMFG, I am hanging a picture of him with the above comment on the wall in my office so that I can stare at the completely scattered cockroaches as the scatter about when truth shines a light.

That is the funniest fricking thing I read in a long time, post that everywhere.  It is Pulitzer worthy information!
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« Reply #43 on: June 26, 2009, 03:12:37 PM »

Yeh... the officials just love to use the word coincidence don't they...

An amateur marksman gets of 3 shots with an old italian bolt action rifle in 6 seconds and scores two hits on a moving target including a head shot... creating 7 wounds in two people ... COINCIDENCE

Aload of training exercises  involving aircraft hijackings, false radar blips, planes crashing into buildings, doomsday planes in washington and NY and terrorism in NY on 9/11 ... COINCIDENCE

First 3 skyscrapers globally collapsing primarily due to fire in one day ... COINCIDENCE

All the cameras not working in the tunnel in Paris the night Diana died ... COINCIDENCE

An anti-terror exercise on 7/7 involving simultaneous bombs going off at the exact three trainstations as the actual attacks ... COINCIDENCE

Human history has defied impossible odds ... we should have made a bet...
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« Reply #44 on: June 26, 2009, 03:22:02 PM »

yeah, the ODDS of these coincidences ... didn't they go into something 10 ^ 35 or some insane number like that?

God is clearly on the N.W.O.'s side, eh?

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« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2009, 03:31:05 PM »

10^43 just for the 7/7 exercise coincidence... probably the biggest coincidence of them all is the fact that all these events have coincidences. There's not been one major event in the last century that hasnt been shrowded in coincidence... im pretty sure if u add up all the coincidences for each event... then take all the coincidences in all the events into account it will be summit like 1 in a googolplex ... the coincidences surrounding 9/11 alone would be more than a googol.
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« Reply #46 on: June 26, 2009, 03:31:50 PM »

Yeh... the officials just love to use the word coincidence don't they...

An amateur marksman gets of 3 shots with an old italian bolt action rifle in 6 seconds and scores two hits on a moving target including a head shot... creating 7 wounds in two people ... COINCIDENCE

Aload of training exercises  involving aircraft hijackings, false radar blips, planes crashing into buildings, doomsday planes in washington and NY and terrorism in NY on 9/11 ... COINCIDENCE

First 3 skyscrapers globally collapsing primarily due to fire in one day ... COINCIDENCE

All the cameras not working in the tunnel in Paris the night Diana died ... COINCIDENCE

An anti-terror exercise on 7/7 involving simultaneous bombs going off at the exact three trainstations as the actual attacks ... COINCIDENCE

Human history has defied impossible odds ... we should have made a bet...

Nice, concise, precise.
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« Reply #47 on: June 28, 2009, 06:19:38 PM »

Where does the BBC get off being the propaganda front for the us govt? What is their advantage to perpetuate propaganda lies?
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« Reply #48 on: June 28, 2009, 06:36:54 PM »

Where does the BBC get off being the propaganda front for the us govt? What is their advantage to perpetuate propaganda lies?

Wilson surrendered to Rothschild and Truman surrendered to Churchill at Potsdam, there is and has been no stinking "US government" since Theodore Roosevelt!

We all live under the unconstitutional conservatist bankstering corporate christian fascist usury mafia, it's criminal Pentagon standing army and it's MI6/CIA/Mossad enemy manufacturing propaganda dictatorships!

The MI6 manufactures enemies to extort wasteful loans for a helpless slave people to support massive useless destructive political war machinery that pays the parasite banksters huge profits for the costs of their own criminal conquests paid for by the slaves, and makes their agendas alone, no matter how perverse, destructive malignant and criminal, the only agendas.

Adopting the tools of tyranny to "fight it" is alway a total surrender to blind unreasoning fear!

It is a fools war, lost by the willing default of advanced surrenders.

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« Reply #49 on: June 28, 2009, 06:48:43 PM »

Wilson surrendered to Rothschild and Truman surrendered to Churchill at Potsdam, there is and has been no stinking "US government" since Theodore Roosevelt!

We all live under the unconstitutional conservatist bankstering corporate christian fascist usury mafia, it's criminal Pentagon standing army and it's MI6/CIA/Mossad enemy manufacturing propaganda dictatorships!

The MI6 manufactures enemies to extort wasteful loans for, and freedoms from their helpless slave people to support massive useless destructive political war machinery that pays the parasite banksters huge profits for the costs of their own criminal conquests paid for by the slaves, and makes their agendas alone, no matter how perverse, destructive malignant and criminal, the only agendas.

Adopting the tools of tyranny to "fight it" is alway a total surrender to blind unreasoning fear!

It is a fools war, lost by the willing default of advanced surrenders.


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« Reply #50 on: June 29, 2009, 02:14:52 AM »

Lest we forget this thing is on tomorrow !

So is that truth meeting in london.

some body here have the capability to record the thing on the beeb? for the ppl here who may not get to watch !
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« Reply #51 on: June 29, 2009, 02:57:25 AM »

It will probably be on the torrent networks shortly after. If it as bad as I'm pretty sure its gonna be im probably gonna download it and make a rebuttal video.
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« Reply #52 on: June 29, 2009, 09:53:53 AM »

Anyone who was planning to go to the event in London should check that it’s still going ahead. According to Indymedia the antifascist movement have complained to the Conway hall about Nick Kollerstrom speaking as he has made comments in the past about Holocaust denial.

 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/06/433062.html


According to Daniel Obachike site it’s still going ahead. 

http://www.the4thbomb.com/
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« Reply #53 on: June 29, 2009, 10:02:43 AM »

O great ... a holocaust denier... seriously WTF is up with british truthers? ... David Icke believes in Reptilians... David Shayler's a no-planer ... Daniel Obachike is overly paranoid... these people discredit themselves... pretty much the only sane one is Annie Machon.
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« Reply #54 on: June 29, 2009, 10:18:29 AM »

O great ... a holocaust denier... seriously WTF is up with british truthers? ... David Icke believes in Reptilians... David Shayler's a no-planer ... Daniel Obachike is overly paranoid... these people discredit themselves... pretty much the only sane one is Annie Machon.

What is holocaust denial?
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« Reply #55 on: June 29, 2009, 10:33:30 AM »

Daniel Obachike is HEALTHILY paranoid.

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« Reply #56 on: June 29, 2009, 10:44:26 AM »

O great ... a holocaust denier... seriously WTF is up with british truthers? ... David Icke believes in Reptilians... David Shayler's a no-planer ... Daniel Obachike is overly paranoid... these people discredit themselves... pretty much the only sane one is Annie Machon.

 It gets so much more interesting Daniel Obachike has said he will be presenting evidence that proves “we are change UK” are run by the MOD, the J7 forums have accused Nick Kollerstrom of plagiarising there work for his new book, and the antifascists are up in arms about Kollerstrom.

http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=17469&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

 Does anyone know which of this group aren’t spooks?

 All we need is someone to start a “no trainers group”
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« Reply #57 on: June 29, 2009, 12:56:06 PM »

I think it's quite clear that we should stop focusing on spectacles and concentrate on informing the people. Spectacles are the specialism of the powers that be. Spectacles are the circuses but the people need bread and food for thought. Wherever there is groupthink, big brother will be there. Individual think will bust his sorry ass.
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« Reply #58 on: June 29, 2009, 01:54:07 PM »

O great ... a holocaust denier... seriously WTF is up with british truthers? ... David Icke believes in Reptilians... David Shayler's a no-planer ... Daniel Obachike is overly paranoid... these people discredit themselves... pretty much the only sane one is Annie Machon.

Maybe that's one of the revelations we'll hear tomorrow. Daniel will declare himself the son of God.

Although I do like seeing the poorly named anti-fascists wound up, so it's swings and roundabouts really.
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« Reply #59 on: June 30, 2009, 05:40:06 AM »

This is from the makers of the Building 7 programme that some derided as a hit peice.Personally I thought anyone who watched it would have came away with plenty of questions to answer and that Richard Gage and Dylan Avery were given a fair hearing.At least tonights show might start people asking similar questions.
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« Reply #60 on: June 30, 2009, 09:04:38 AM »

BBC Shite: Unmasking the mysterious 7/7 conspiracy theorist

The amount of crap in the little video is plain journalism crap. They went all out on Character assasination too.

edit: would help if I can put the link in properly.
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« Reply #61 on: June 30, 2009, 09:44:03 AM »

I'm speechless... that video has actually rendered me speechless ... i cannot believe what I just watched ... its gonna be even worse than i thought...
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« Reply #62 on: June 30, 2009, 09:50:48 AM »

 Fact that they're even bothering to make a programme on this shows they're havin to make a response to those who've been questioning official story.Even if they attempt to uphold the Govt. narrative plenty of public watchin will be unconvinced.
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« Reply #63 on: June 30, 2009, 09:52:29 AM »

I'm speechless... that video has actually rendered me speechless ... i cannot believe what I just watched ... its gonna be even worse than i thought...

I think this video has tipped my final decision, and other recent crap, into continuing with my PP subscription come August.
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« Reply #64 on: June 30, 2009, 10:50:31 AM »

NEW - BBC propaganda "Hit Piece" on 7/7

BBC Radio Times review


DOCUMENTARY

7/7: The Conspiracy Files

Highlight Tuesday 30 June  9:00pm -   10:00pm  BBC2

The makers of the series separating fact from overheated fiction have produced this programme on England's worst terrorist atrocity.

There have been three official reports into the London bombings on 7 July 2005, but for a network of sceptics these are no more than a cover-up job for what they believe was a government conspiracy to frame British Muslims.

The programme was still being edited as RT went to press, but it promises to help defuse some of the wilful paranoia that flourishes online.
 
Radio Times reviewer - David Butcher

VIDEO Plus+: 2011

Subtitled, Widescreen, Audio-described

Directed by: Tristan Quinn
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« Reply #65 on: June 30, 2009, 10:55:43 AM »

Tristan Quinn

Tristan Quinn made Panorama: "Faith, Hate and Charity",

here is the retraction from the BBC Press Office
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2006/07_july/30/panorama.shtml

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Asked by Panorama's John Ware if the Commission's investigation in 2003 could be described as "rigorous", Kenneth Dibble, Director, Legal and Charity Services replies: "It was an investigation which followed a particular concern and focus."
 
Ware: "But it wasn't widespread?"
 
Dibble: "It wasn't in depth."




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« Reply #66 on: June 30, 2009, 10:59:24 AM »

Offical BBC Website Review



Nearly four years after the 7/7 bombings, England's worst terrorist atrocity, The Conspiracy Files investigates the conspiracy theories flourishing on the internet.

There have been three official reports into the bombings on 7th July 2005, which claimed the lives of 56 people and injured 784 others. The programme sees how conspiracy theories suggest four British Muslims were framed by the government, play on the fears of the Muslim community and spread a highly divisive and damaging message.

The Conspiracy Files: 7/7 examines the evidence in an attempt to separate fact from fiction.
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« Reply #67 on: June 30, 2009, 11:09:12 AM »

Come on folks....

Can you not imagine the out right lies and distortions of the truth about to be made ?

Govt sponsored TV show !
Taxpayer Funded !
Outrageous !
Get Mad !
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« Reply #68 on: June 30, 2009, 11:37:19 AM »

"Separating fact from fiction"

Yeh ... thats what they said about their first 9/11 piece... yet the entire thing was filled with people saying "conspiracy theorists need to believe theres more to it... it's their comfort blanket... they cant accept the fact that these things just happen" ... yeh ... coz believe 9/11 was a false flag makes me sleep soundly at night ...  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #69 on: June 30, 2009, 11:41:54 AM »

"Separating fact from fiction"

Yeh ... thats what they said about their first 9/11 piece... yet the entire thing was filled with people saying "conspiracy theorists need to believe theres more to it... it's their comfort blanket... they cant accept the fact that these things just happen" ... yeh ... coz believe 9/11 was a false flag makes me sleep soundly at night ...  Roll Eyes

Yup

Not going to interrupt my evening to watch garbage.
Def a job for BBC iPlayer.

If you live in america you need to use a proxy anonymizer that is based in the UK.
If your Infowars Staff PM me for access to one.


Mind you since its propaganda, no doubt it will be on Google Video and not get deleted...

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« Reply #70 on: June 30, 2009, 11:51:12 AM »

Everyone get your antibullcrap / anti-hypnotic-subliminal-messages goggles on and strap in. . . .  Cool

(how many times will you swear at the tv before this thing is done??  Angry Lips sealed Cry)

Its in the CONSPIRACY FILES it is bound to go along with the govt conspiracy ! It will have to so the beeb can keep getting all that lovely licence fee money !

Licence fee is what - 120 quid a year or something? per household (or per 5 tv`s)
I saw the other day the queen gets the equivalent of 69p from every person in the UK per year.
Not that i think she should get anything - but if the beeb is getting how many % more than the queen then it shows how valuable a tool the beeb is to the govt no Huh
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« Reply #71 on: June 30, 2009, 11:53:33 AM »

Haven't trusted the BBC since 2003, especially with these types of 'debunking' propaganda 'documentaries'. I'm sure PJW or Steve will have an interesting article to write tomorrow. Hopefully the program will draw the truely open minded people into checking out 7/7 Ripple Effect and making their own minds up. They should start supplying barf bags with TV licenses.
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« Reply #72 on: June 30, 2009, 11:55:04 AM »

A great drinking game ... drink everytime they use the words "conspiracy theory" or variations ... some of my friends did that for the history channel 9/11 hitpiece ... they almost died.
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« Reply #73 on: June 30, 2009, 12:00:04 PM »

LOL yeah i`m up for that scootle . . .  Cheesy

drink every time they say "according to the conspiracy nuts on prison planet". . . . LOL! We cannot expect this to be anything but laughable.

But, the fact they have made this may say more than what ever inane content it has.

(BTW on ch 4 same time is a thing about the mumbai attack - that might be interesting too - its on plus one so ya can catch both if your not laying on the floor pissed as a newt after the 7/7 thing that is . . .
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« Reply #74 on: June 30, 2009, 12:11:38 PM »

Where does the BBC get off being the propaganda front for the us govt? What is their advantage to perpetuate propaganda lies?

It's not for the US government. The same people who are in control of the US government control the UK government and the EU and all the other states that have a capital 'U' in it. Innit? It's all about unity and being united in a 'post-national' world.

that's why we call it the New World Order.
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« Reply #75 on: June 30, 2009, 12:13:04 PM »

 Unmasking the mysterious 7/7 conspiracy theorist

In the absence of a public inquiry into the 7 July bombings, conspiracy theories have filled the vacuum. One of the more inflammatory involves a man hiding behind an Arabic-sounding pseudonym taken from a sci-fi film starring Sting, says the BBC's Mike Rudin.

The 56-minute homemade documentary opens with a view from space and the words: "A message from Muad Dib".

What follows is a stream of allegations about the 2005 bomb attack on London. The film, entitled 7/7 Ripple Effect, accuses former prime minister Tony Blair, the government, the police and the British and Israeli security service of murdering the innocent people who died that day, in order to shore up support for the "war on terror".

The video has become an internet hit, hailed by conspiracy theorists and picked up by some Muslims in the UK as evidence that the official account of what happened that day is untrue.

The official version says four British Muslims blew themselves up in the UK's first suicide attacks, murdering 52 people and injuring 784 others.

But it took nearly a year for the official account to be published, and much of the evidence, such as CCTV and photographs, only came out slowly afterwards.

In that atmosphere conspiracy theories have flourished. A host of internet films now claim the government account is a deception.

7/7 Ripple Effect, released two years after the attacks, goes much further than just posing questions.

The narrator alleges the four men blamed for the bombings were in fact fall guys in a government plot to win support for the war on terror; they were tricked into travelling to London with rucksacks on that day.

CCTV that shows them arriving in London was supposedly just to incriminate them. The film claims that they were not on the trains that blew up.

It's alleged the three men blamed for the Tube bombings were in fact murdered by police at Canary Wharf, after government agents set off pre-planted explosives to frame them.

'Unbelievable' coincidence

Muad Dib's conspiracy video has been picked up and held up as truth. A copy of his film was sent to a survivor of the attacks and to the Chairman of the Birmingham Central Mosque, Dr Mohammed Naseem.

He has long harboured doubts about the government account. "The Ripple Effect is more convincing than the government statement," he says.

Dr Naseem made 2,000 copies of 7/7 Ripple Effect for the mosque. At Friday prayers he asked the congregation to raise their hands if they did not accept the government version - nearly the entire gathering did.

Muad Dib hangs much of his conspiracy theory on the fact that on 7 July 2005, there was a mock exercise preparing for a possible terror attack on the London underground, with a very similar scenario to what happened - three London stations. This he describes as "an unbelievable set of circumstances".
“ If people in mosques think the government is so antagonistic that they're willing to frame them for a monstrous crime, what does that do to levels of trust? ”
7/7 survivor Rachel North

But Peter Power, a former Scotland Yard police officer, says on 7 July, the exercise he ran was office-based and involved just six people from a publishing company.

That has not stopped him receiving hate mail from anonymous sceptics accusing him of "murder" and threatening "justice" with "no mercy".

Muad Dib did not send Peter Power a copy of 7/7 Ripple Effect, but when it was showed it to him, he found it "quite menacing [and] quite worrying".

He has now passed the DVD and the threatening e-mails to the Metropolitan Police. But Mr Power was frustrated because of the difficulty of prosecuting someone who hides behind a cloak of anonymity.

Dune clips

The Conspiracy Files 7/7, a BBC documentary, tracked Muad Dib down, eventually finding him in the small town of Kells in Ireland. He is in fact John Hill, from Sheffield.

His alias, Muad Dib, is a fictional character in the science fiction film Dune, a film starring Sting and Kyle MacLachlan about inter-galactic freedom fighting, from which he seems to draw inspiration.

Clips from the film - including the quote "The sleeper must awaken" - appear in 7/7 Ripple Effect.

Frank Herbert's series of Dune novels use Islamic concepts like "jihad" and other terms based on Arabic.

A document on Muad Dib's website reveals he believes he is the Messiah and that George Lucas wrote Star Wars after being told telepathically what to write, by the very "Force" to which the films refer.

John Hill has now been arrested and is facing extradition to the UK on a charge of perverting the course of justice for sending DVDs of 7/7 Ripple Effect to the judge and jury foreman in a trial linked to the attacks.

This hasn't stopped his film. Alex Jones, who runs an internet site and a US radio show devoted to conspiracy theories, claims that 7/7 Ripple Effect has been "just exploding all over the web" since Hills' arrest.

There have been two official reports into the bombing by the Intelligence and Security Committee. The government has always resisted calls for an independent public inquiry, and has decided not to actively counter conspiracy theories.

But there is concern that conspiracy theories are divisive and could alienate Muslims from the authorities. The former Metropolitan Police Deputy Assistant Commissioner, Brian Paddick, says action is needed to prevent further atrocities.

"Hopefully there will be people in the police service, the security service and in government who will realise how important conspiracy theories are. And how important it is… that every attempt is made to try and counteract them."

Rachel North, a survivor of the 7 July bombings, is troubled by the acceptance of conspiracy theories.

"If people in mosques think that the government is so antagonistic towards them that they're actually willing to frame them for a monstrous crime they didn't commit, what does that do to levels of trust? That is a problem for the government and for everybody in this country."

Mike Rudin is series producer of The Conspiracy Files 7/7

A selection of your comments appears below.

I have seen this film and the fact that the government has seen fit not to order a public inquiry into the worst terrorist attack on London since the IRA ceased hostilities is puzzling and disturbing in itself. Crackpot or not, the film comes across as credible and does pose some serious questions which of course have never been answered. The execution of JC de Menezes also adds to the disquiet and I wish I could say that the arrest of the film maker comes as a surprise. Logan McGeary, London

Well, I'm not into conspiracy theories but it happens to be completely true that the security services in both New York on 9/11 and London on 7/7 were running mock terrorist attack exercises. Make of that what you will. Mike, Corby

We need an inquiry, more than that, we deserve an inquiry. It's absence is indicative of a government that has become utterly obsessed with secrecy, despite all of it's empty promises and hot-air about 'transparency'. An inquiry would take the wind out of the sails of extremist conspiracy-theorists, but, time after time, the government tells us that we have no right to know why our fellow Britons were blown up and killed. Are they, perhaps, scared that an inquiry would establish, for once and for all, that those attacks were a direct response to the foreign policy of Blair? Dr Michael Swann, Thurso, Scotland

This is the same nonsense as the 9/11 conspiracy. People come out with idiotic statements and there are those impressionable minds that don't know any better who believe them. Take the moon landings. The very facts that are supposed to prove they didn't land, actually proves that they did. The conspiracy theorists simply do not understand basic physics. Paul, Lowestoft

It is interesting that both the 9/11 and 7/7 attacks occurred at times when the political leader of the nation was suffering in public opinion, and that both these attacks have enabled the governments involved to introduce draconian measures in the name of "security". Whilst I do not actually believe that the governments were directly involved in either of these attacks (or at least I pray they were not), I am not so sure that they did not consciously ignore critical intelligence and thus allow the events to come to pass. Bryan Wallbridge, Boston, Lincolnshire
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« Reply #76 on: June 30, 2009, 12:13:30 PM »

It's not for the US government. The same people who are in control of the US government control the UK government and the EU and all the other states that have a capital 'U' in it. Innit? It's all about unity and being united in a 'post-national' world.

"Anglo Empire " = english speaking superstate never discussed, but it does exist in practical terms.

America, Scotland, Australia, New Zealand etc.. all just component parts of this federation.
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« Reply #77 on: June 30, 2009, 12:15:01 PM »

Wow, sending the truth to a jury is tampering? Tampering laws were meant to discourage organized crime from intimidating jurists and prevent bribing of the jury by the rich.

Sending a video that questions the legitimacy of the official report on 7/7 is tampering. Could they be more obvious?
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« Reply #78 on: June 30, 2009, 12:16:44 PM »

Oh, I see this was in the 77 thread sorry. Is this the story he was mentioning minutes ago?
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« Reply #79 on: June 30, 2009, 12:26:32 PM »

"But Peter Power, a former Scotland Yard police officer, says on 7 July, the exercise he ran was office-based and involved just six people from a publishing company."

6 people? Wow. And he said the exercise involved the exact same trains and the exact same times. Six people? Are they X Men?
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