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« on: October 19, 2007, 07:12:13 AM »

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/10/robot-cannon-ki.html

Robot Cannon Kills 9, Wounds 14
By Noah Shachtman October 18, 2007 | 11:00:00 AMCategories: Ammo and Munitions, Drones, Guns   
 We're not used to thinking of them this way.  But many advanced military weapons are essentially robotic -- picking targets out automatically, slewing into position, and waiting only for a human to pull the trigger.  Most of the time.  Once in a while, though, these machines start firing mysteriously on their own.  The South African National Defence Force "is probing whether a software glitch led to an antiaircraft cannon malfunction that killed nine soldiers and seriously injured 14 others during a shooting exercise on Friday."

SA National Defence Force spokesman brigadier general Kwena Mangope says the cause of the malfunction is not yet known...

Media reports say the shooting exercise, using live ammunition, took place at the SA Army's Combat Training Centre, at Lohatlha, in the Northern Cape, as part of an annual force preparation endeavour.

Mangope told The Star that it “is assumed that there was a mechanical problem, which led to the accident. The gun, which was fully loaded, did not fire as it normally should have," he said. "It appears as though the gun, which is computerised, jammed before there was some sort of explosion, and then it opened fire uncontrollably, killing and injuring the soldiers."

Other reports have suggested a computer error might have been to blame. Defence pundit Helmoed-Römer Heitman told the Weekend Argus that if “the cause lay in computer error, the reason for the tragedy might never be found."

The anti-aircraft weapon, an Oerlikon GDF-005, is designed to use passive and active radar, as well as laser target designators range finders, to lock on to "high-speed, low-flying aircraft, helicopters, unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV)  and cruise missiles."  In "automatic mode," the weapon feeds targeting data from the fire control unit straight to the pair of 35mm guns, and reloads on its own when its emptied its magazine.

Electronics engineer and defence company CEO Richard Young says he can't believe the incident was purely a mechanical fault. He says his company, C2I2, in the mid 1990s, was involved in two air defence artillery upgrade programmes, dubbed Projects Catchy and Dart.

During the shooting trials at Armscor's Alkantpan shooting range, “I personally saw a gun go out of control several times,” Young says. “They made a temporary rig consisting of two steel poles on each side of the weapon, with a rope in between to keep the weapon from swinging. The weapon eventually knocked the pol[e]s down.”

According to The Star, "a female artillery officer risked her life... in a desperate bid " to save members of her battery from the gun."

But the brave, as yet unnamed officer was unable to stop the wildly swinging computerised Swiss/German Oerlikon 35mm MK5 anti-aircraft twin-barrelled gun. It sprayed hundreds of high-explosive 0,5kg 35mm cannon shells around the five-gun firing position.

By the time the gun had emptied its twin 250-round auto-loader magazines, nine soldiers were dead and 11 injured.

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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2007, 07:15:11 AM »

WTF!

and they want to use unmanned fleets of weaponized planes in the US.

Are there similar incidents of robotic malfunctions spraying death all around?
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2007, 07:19:45 AM »

Video: Robo-Weapon's Scary Twist
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/10/video-robo-weap.html
By Noah Shachtman October 18, 2007 | 10:59:00 AMCategories: Drones, Guns, Video Fix 
 

The tragedy in South Africa that killed nine soldiers isn't the first time a robotic weapon has spun out of control.  Here's a video I obtained a few years back, showing a XM-151 Remote Weapons Station emptying its magazine of .50-caliber bullets -- and then turning towards the camera, looking for new targets to nail. I'm told -- but cannot confirm -- that this footage was shot during a demonstration for VIPs, and that several members of Congress would've been in serious jeopardy, had the weapon not run out of ammo.


Remote Weapon, Out of Control

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7poF0M7H5M
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2007, 07:23:08 AM »

Software glitch investigated as possible cause of deadly robot cannon incident
http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/18/software-glitch-investigated-as-possible-cause-of-deadly-robot-c/
Posted Oct 18th 2007 4:13PM by Donald Melanson

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According to ITWeb, the South African National Defense Force is now investigating the possibility that a software glitch may have been the cause of deadly anti-aircraft cannon "malfunction" that left nine soldiers dead and 14 seriously wounding during an exercise last Friday. The robot cannon in question is an Oerlikon GDF-005 which, as ITWeb points out, was apparently "not designed for fully automatic control," yet that is just how it was operating in this case, although Oerlikon itself reportedly played no role in the upgrades. While Defense Force spokesman Kwena Mangope apparently isn't going any further than to describe the incident as a "mechanical problem," both the police and a Board of Inquiry are now looking to get to the bottom of the matter, although there's no word as to when they expect to report their findings.
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2007, 07:24:03 AM »

RCWS - Remote Controlled Weapon Station

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dkucHUxwH4
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2007, 07:28:20 AM »

(future news article)

'Officials are saying it was a computer glitch which caused a robotic machine gun weapons platform to malfunction and open fire on the crowd of peaceful demonstrators yesterday, killing 250 men, women, and children. Spokesman for the police department says he is not sure how the rubber bullets were replaced with armor-piercing incendiary rounds...'
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2007, 07:40:12 AM »

(future news article)

'Officials are saying it was a computer glitch which caused a robotic machine gun weapons platform to malfunction and open fire on the crowd of peaceful demonstrators yesterday, killing 250 men, women, and children. Spokesman for the police department says he is not sure how the rubber bullets were replaced with armor-piercing incendiary rounds...'

How could you forget the DU?

I can see the same article below the one you mentioned in the same publication...

New 'Peacemaker' robotic system accidently turns 1,000 elderly patients at an area retirement center into swiss cheese.  Apparently one of the thousands of customer service representatives pressed the red button instead of the orange button on the remote access controller located in an indian call center.  The manufacturer has issued a statement that shows their responsiveness by letting all customers know they can send a letter to receive a new "green" button to replace the "orange" one.  The manufacturer feels that the new color codes should decrease the recent rise in similar malfunctions over the past 6 months.
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2007, 09:56:08 AM »

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/10/robot-cannon-ki.html

Robot Cannon Kills 9, Wounds 14
By Noah Shachtman October 18, 2007 | 11:00:00 AMCategories: Ammo and Munitions, Drones, Guns   
 We're not used to thinking of them this way.  But many advanced military weapons are essentially robotic -- picking targets out automatically, slewing into position, and waiting only for a human to pull the trigger.  Most of the time.  Once in a while, though, these machines start firing mysteriously on their own.  The South African National Defence Force "is probing whether a software glitch led to an antiaircraft cannon malfunction that killed nine soldiers and seriously injured 14 others during a shooting exercise on Friday."

SA National Defence Force spokesman brigadier general Kwena Mangope says the cause of the malfunction is not yet known...

Media reports say the shooting exercise, using live ammunition, took place at the SA Army's Combat Training Centre, at Lohatlha, in the Northern Cape, as part of an annual force preparation endeavour.

Mangope told The Star that it “is assumed that there was a mechanical problem, which led to the accident. The gun, which was fully loaded, did not fire as it normally should have," he said. "It appears as though the gun, which is computerised, jammed before there was some sort of explosion, and then it opened fire uncontrollably, killing and injuring the soldiers."

Other reports have suggested a computer error might have been to blame. Defence pundit Helmoed-Römer Heitman told the Weekend Argus that if “the cause lay in computer error, the reason for the tragedy might never be found."

The anti-aircraft weapon, an Oerlikon GDF-005, is designed to use passive and active radar, as well as laser target designators range finders, to lock on to "high-speed, low-flying aircraft, helicopters, unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV)  and cruise missiles."  In "automatic mode," the weapon feeds targeting data from the fire control unit straight to the pair of 35mm guns, and reloads on its own when its emptied its magazine.

Electronics engineer and defence company CEO Richard Young says he can't believe the incident was purely a mechanical fault. He says his company, C2I2, in the mid 1990s, was involved in two air defence artillery upgrade programmes, dubbed Projects Catchy and Dart.

During the shooting trials at Armscor's Alkantpan shooting range, “I personally saw a gun go out of control several times,” Young says. “They made a temporary rig consisting of two steel poles on each side of the weapon, with a rope in between to keep the weapon from swinging. The weapon eventually knocked the pol[e]s down.”

According to The Star, "a female artillery officer risked her life... in a desperate bid " to save members of her battery from the gun."

But the brave, as yet unnamed officer was unable to stop the wildly swinging computerised Swiss/German Oerlikon 35mm MK5 anti-aircraft twin-barrelled gun. It sprayed hundreds of high-explosive 0,5kg 35mm cannon shells around the five-gun firing position.

By the time the gun had emptied its twin 250-round auto-loader magazines, nine soldiers were dead and 11 injured.


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Its deja-vu allover again. reminds me of the first model they presented in the movie ROBOCOP.
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2007, 04:09:11 PM »

How could you forget the DU?

I can see the same article below the one you mentioned in the same publication...

New 'Peacemaker' robotic system accidently turns 1,000 elderly patients at an area retirement center into swiss cheese.  Apparently one of the thousands of customer service representatives pressed the red button instead of the orange button on the remote access controller located in an indian call center.  The manufacturer has issued a statement that shows their responsiveness by letting all customers know they can send a letter to receive a new "green" button to replace the "orange" one.  The manufacturer feels that the new color codes should decrease the recent rise in similar malfunctions over the past 6 months.

Ha! That sounds about right.

The scary part? Take these killbots, combine them with nanotechnology and AI, and life will surely imitate art...
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2008, 04:45:30 PM »

I seem to have forgotten:  What was it that brought The Terminator about?
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