Does Zeitgeist support Islam by Default?

[Freddy]

This blog made me very curious:

Does the Zeitgeist Movement support Islam?
http://zeitgeistmovementsupportsislam.blogspot.com

The blog discusses how this person, originally a ZG supporter, tried to start a thread at the Zeitgeist forum about sharia-banking.  He/she was attacked for even criticizing Islam. And it just got really weird from there as forum members abused the guy a bit and the mods locked the thread and banned the guy.  It was really odd how and why they did it.  After reading the blog & some of the posts I think they guy was probably on to something and the ZG movement people didn't like it. I thought more people should be made aware.

* I wasn't sure exactly where best to post this so, if a mod moves it please pm me a message so I'll be able to find it.

[Unintelligable Name]

Islamd, Buddhism, on and on are good. Why? It has to do with what they are able to recognize as their messiah, or so it seems to be.

[BaronVonBongo]

No it doesn't. Zeitgeist supports the rejection of all forms of dogmatic 'Old World' religion. The theosophists/New Agers would call it the piscean age.
They cosy up to the religious, showing tHeir shared ethical underpinings, yet undermining the religious faith. By taking upon themselves the compatible doctrines and dogmas of old religion they intend to put the majority of peoples into a spiritual flux in which, through government policy and media properganda they can push them, through their deepest ideological urges to reject the 'yoke' of these systems. What they do though is replace it with the yoke of of the One World Government. The objective is to make this palatible to the vast majority.
Religiously speaking we are talking Anti-Christ/Dajaal.
This is not speaking irrationally, it is self pofessed by the movement implicit troughout all theosophical tracts and treatsies. Yes the so called world teachers, prime amongst them Maitreya. Buddhism for real rejects any such notion.

http://www.westernbuddhistreview.com/vol1/new_age.html

The UN worringly is where these agendas are being put into print and international law/policy. It only takes a google search to find about the theosophists high links to the UN and the integral nature of their philosophy in forming UN policy.

UN Declaration of the Principals of Toleration

http://www.un-documents.net/dpt.htm#article-1

1.3 Tolerance is the responsibility that upholds human rights, pluralism (including cultural pluralism), democracy and the rule of law. It involves the rejection of dogmatism and absolutism and affirms the standards set out in international human rights instruments.

Whilst there are enough sugar coated words in this tract to make it seem hard to reject as it always had for me, this is the turd in the punchbowl.

Check this on the UNs spiritual agenda for the Earth Charter.

http://www.contenderministries.org/articles/earthcharter.php

THE PROBLEM IS THAT THESE RELIGIONS ARE NOT COMPATIBLE. WHILST WE SHOULD LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS, WE DO NOT NEED TO BELIEVE THAT RELIGION IS THE SOURCE OF ALL EVIL AND WAR. THE WARS OF THIS LAST CENTURY HAVE BEEN FOUGHT ALONG ANTI RELIGIOUS IDEOLOGICAL, ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL AGENDAS. TE PUPPET MASTERS DEFLECT FROM THEMSELVES BY PROMOTING OLD RELGION TO BE THE CAUSE.

[Dok]

zeitgeist is a religion, theosophy/technocracy, heck they even had a Maitreya open ZA.  what a joke.

[agentbluescreen]

The supreme and invincible power of the Undivided unity of All Loveliness and All Belovedness Itself and  Their only-begotten Heir, Our Savior Jesus Christ, the only King EVER, the light of the universe that rules Their All will destroy and condemn all who worship the false idols of established corporate gnosticisms,  gnostics false prophets, false teachers, books and all other false teachings, eternally erasing them all from the book of All Lives Itself!

Be very careful what you worship and repent for the sins of your former false "religionisms"!  

They sent us Our Savior to atone for the abominations of desolation of the noble templar G_d imprisoning Leviticans! His sacrifice was to pay for the sins of the false blood and burnt offerings of noble-fascist Jewry, and the falsely graven-idol false Levitican 'laws" of the Sadducee's falsely contrived idols of graven-image "scripture" that were the "REAL" unfaithful to G_d alone sins of the unfaithful Jews! This is why the false templar abomination of desolation, the idolatrous Jerusalem Temple, "G_d prison" of the false-sinful noble Levitican G_d-ransomers, was destroyed by Christ!!

40 Jesus said, "A grapevine has been planted outside of the Father, but being unsound, it will be pulled up by its roots and destroyed."

71 Jesus said, "I shall destroy this house, and no one will be able to rebuild it."

101 Jesus said, "Whoever does not leave his father and his mother as I do cannot become a disciple to me. And whoever does not love his father and his mother as I do cannot become a disciple to me. For my mother gave me my body, but my true Mother gave me life!.


There are 11 commandments (including love thy neighbor as thyself) follow them exactly and only them alone!  

None other teaching is of G_d!

Anything graven in addition to or contrary to those 11 Commandments else-wise is bound to be idolatrous!

A "bible" or "torah" or "koran" is merely a history book, nothing more!

[agentbluescreen]

What;s the difference between my true Christianity and your racist-eugenic fascist 'house-ghost' corporate religionisms?

I worship, praise and adore All Love Itself the one true monotheistic G_d alone, and proclaim Them and Their divine heir Our Savior, the only King ever, not to be tyrants but the innate pure eternally creative and abundant morality of All Loves Themselves!

The All Itself -forgiving!

You, sad enslaved-to hatred losers, worship falsely anointed false idols of graven corporatist "books", which falsely place themselves and their falsely ennobled minions between you and that charitably inalienable forgiveness!

30 Jesus said: "Where there are two, they are not without G_d, and when there is one alone, I say, I am with him.

[Dok]

What;s the difference between my true Christianity and your racist-eugenic fascist 'house-ghost' corporate religionisms?

I worship, praise and adore All Love Itself the one true monotheistic G_d alone, and proclaim Them and Their divine heir Our Savior, the only King ever, not to be tyrants but the innate pure eternally creative and abundant morality of All Loves Themselves!

The All Itself -forgiving!

You, sad enslaved-to hatred losers, worship falsely anointed false idols of graven corporatist "books", which falsely place themselves and their falsely ennobled minions between you and that charitably inalienable forgiveness!

30 Jesus said: "Where there are two, they are not without G_d, and when there is one alone, I say, I am with him.

whats the difference between True Biblical Christianity and you??

Everything.

[agentbluescreen]

whats the difference between True Biblical Christianity and you??
Everything.

there is no such thing as a "true bible"  RoTFLMAO!

Worship your false-noble master, the Warlord James's plagiarized, exclusionary version of the Constantinian gnostic slave book (with it's false hell owning noble male warlord god and gay satan god) into the false hell to which it condemns you! Your book is a sea of lies!

When your eternal life which is the Loveliness and Belovedness contained in your soul is extinguished by the persecutions, hatreds and vile contempts you regurgitate promote and preach against others out of your gnostic-corporate dogma book, you shall wonder why your life just ends!

I will worship G_d alone follow the 11 Commandments ALONE and return to eternal life within Them by loving all I may reach in every way possible, as my Savior instructed me, regardless of my concern for any or all of their sins - even yours!

Hatred is the destructive evil of the bestial satanic human false choices of this world, it is never of G_d!

[Dok]

there is no such thing as a "true bible"  RoTFLMO

Worship your master James's slave book into the false hell to which it condemns you! When your eternal life which is the Loveliness and Belovedness contained in your soul is extinguished by the persecutions, hatreds and vile contempts you regurgitate promote and preach against others out of your gnostic-corporate dogma book, you shall wonder why your life just ends!

I will worship G_d alone follow the 11 Commandments ALONE and return to eternal life within Them by loving all I may reach in every way possible, as my Savior instructed me, regardless of my concern for any or all of their sins - even yours!

Hatred is the destructive evil of the bestial satanic human false choices of this world, it is never of G_d!

you keep telling yourself that, say hi to Maitreya for me. 

[agentbluescreen]

you keep telling yourself that, say hi to Maitreya for me.  

You contain the inalienable charitable forgiveness that is our only King ever and not a tyrant within you! If you refuse to find Him within you, you will be destroyed!

Your true G_d is not to be found in the graven images of a quaint old perverted gnostic history book!

70 Jesus said, "If you bring forth What Is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth What Is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you."

Praise, obey and adore All Love Itself and you cannot ever do, think nor act wrongly!

...and no, the selfish 'eros' of lust is not the "love" that I speak of!

[xTruthSeekerx]

so you worship just love? talk about false idols and your denying the trinity with your gnostic bs

[Dok]

You contain the inalienable charitable forgiveness that is our only King ever and not a tyrant within you! If you refuse to find Him within you, you will be destroyed!

Your true G_d is not to be found in the graven images of a quaint old perverted gnostic history book!

70 Jesus said, "If you bring forth What Is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth What Is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you."

Praise, obey and adore All Love Itself and you cannot ever do, think nor act wrongly!

...and no, the selfish 'eros' of lust is not the "love" that I speak of!

John 3
3Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

[Dok]

You contain the inalienable charitable forgiveness that is our only King ever and not a tyrant within you! If you refuse to find Him within you, you will be destroyed!

Your true G_d is not to be found in the graven images of a quaint old perverted gnostic history book!

70 Jesus said, "If you bring forth What Is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth What Is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you."

Praise, obey and adore All Love Itself and you cannot ever do, think nor act wrongly!

...and no, the selfish 'eros' of lust is not the "love" that I speak of!

Gal 1
 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

 9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

 10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

 11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

 12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.



2 Peter 1
 19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

[agentbluescreen]

so you worship just love? talk about false idols and your denying the trinity with your gnostic bs

Jesus spoke of the Heavenly Union between All Loveliness and All Belovedness Themselves who are the original, creative "antecedent causalities" (or "the original causes that are mutually their own reasons") that produce the infinite effect of the origin of the universe, consisting as containing attractive forces (Their supreme beingness beyond any mere, creature-humanity or sexuality) as spiritually being BOTH His "Father" AND His "Mother"!

We know the G_dhead is "two" or "dualistic" in attractive creative nature by virtue of the Divine Conversation (YMVH) that was given to Moses by THEM as their "name"! In English their divine name is:

As "I Shall Be that:" "I Shall Be"  they are both the subjects and objects of an eternally indivisible united committed 6th dimensional inter-relationship of equals that cause the attractive, creative 5th dimension of gravitation (the G_d force) of their Holy Spirit to be manifest between them which is their manifest omnipresence in The All Itself that IS THEM! (and us)

Being made in "their image and likeness" has nothing to do with the mere eros of bestial sexuality! When THEY said "Let US make mankind in OUR image and likeness" they were speaking of two forms of All Life Itself.

One is the mortal macro-microscopic image of themselves reflected in the image of our "elect of all creation" intelligent-being producing DNA image.

The other is the spiritual image of the Holy Grail or the "chaff" of our spiritual "soul's" loving contents! Our own intellectual Loveliness and Belovedness which is our eternal salvation and the "good fruit" of our lives that returns us to their Divine Garner in eternal creative joy with and back to THEM!

Sex, viagra and fertility drugs does not create human life, only G_d does, for only THEY can give that elect being's intellect the kernal of their conscious life-organizing Loveliness and Belovedness!

Read of John the Baptist, the most honored and revered prophet of Yeshua! He explained the miracles of loving forgiveness and our eternal salvation perfectly.

The third part of the "Trinity" is the Heir of Their Holy Spirit and the only-begotten Son of Their Union the only King ever Yeshua- or Jesus Christ.

So there's "Your Trinity" albeit a bit more complicated and far more perfect that the grossly nobly distorted and heretical hell owning male warlord on a cloud with a bad-boy biatch named satan version of your corrupted gnostic dogma books!

Philosophers and theologians discern four kinds of love, the last two of which are merely names for lust: agape, philia, eros and physio.

Of the four, eros is considered the most egocentric, focusing on care only for the self.
Yet another objection to eros and erotic representation is that it fosters a subject/object relationship in which the object of desire is mere projection of the needs of a desiring "subject".  Erotic engagement paradoxically BOTH individuates and de-individuates the desirers.

Eros is merely lustful, desirous or covetous and thus does not even have to be sexual in nature. Eros can be interpreted as a love for someone whom you love more than the philia, love of friendship. It can also apply to dating relationships as well as marriage, in it's sexual sense. Love as eros is considered more base than philia (friendship, respect and dutiful service) or agape (self-sacrificing love).

Physio simply refers to sexual gratification itself or the mere conjugal acts often called "lovemaking".

Philia is a dispassionate pseudo-virtuous, "corporate" type of love, a concept developed by Aristotle, in sharp contrast to Plato's foolish attempts to define all love as passionately erotic. It includes "loyalty" to friends, family, pets and community, and requires virtue, sharing or equality and familiarity. In ancient texts, philos denoted a generally discriminatory type of non-sexual love, used for love between family, between friends, a desire or enjoyment of an activity, as well as between a more broadly defined range of "lovers".

Agape is the truly spiritual, charitable, kind, selfless, supportive and self-sacrificial unconditional love that in all ways resembles the affection one has for oneself. This is the love Christ, contrary to the discriminatory "Philia" of Aristotle,  ordered us all to always show to all our neighbors!

[xTruthSeekerx]

say hi to Maitreya false prophet

[Modzilla_Kicker]

This thread has a blend of philosophy and prosody that is beyond the beauty of many poetry that i've ever read. And by the way, Zeitgeist is against all the three monotheistic faiths. "The Arrivals", one of many heavily censored videos, purports to be partially a rebuttal of Zeitgeist's attack on religion in general, and Christianity and Islam in particular.

The Arrivals pt.50 (The Arrival of Jesus The Messiah): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In7X-2RXmZg&feature=PlayList&p=3B74693223AB8F80&index=50

[Dok]

This thread has a blend of philosophy and prosody that is beyond the beauty of many poetry that i've ever read. And by the way, Zeitgeist is against all the three monotheistic faiths. "The Arrivals", one of many heavily censored videos, purports to be partially a rebuttal of Zeitgeist's attack on religion in general, and Christianity and Islam in particular.

The Arrivals pt.50 (The Arrival of Jesus The Messiah): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In7X-2RXmZg&feature=PlayList&p=3B74693223AB8F80&index=50

thats not true Zeitgeist is expecting the arrival of all three in the form of the Maitreya.

[agentbluescreen]

say hi to Maitreya false prophet

Far from it, I'm just a voice in the wilderness, reading history to you my friend.

This is the voice of a prophet:

Psalm 23:

25     My praise shall be of You in every congregation:
           I will show my Love of You before those that fear You to be a tyrant.

26     The poor and destitute shall be filled and be satisfied:
           they shall praise G_d that seek G_d: Your loveliness and belovedness shall endure eternally.

27     All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto G_d
           and all the offspring of all nations shall adore You.

28     For the universe is G_d:
           and They are the divine governance of all being.

29     All they that be fat upon earth shall be filled and worship:
           all they that go down to the dust shall bow before G_d: and none other can keep alive a soul.

30     He shall serve G_d;
           all before shall be accounted to G_d by the sacrifice of His life.

31     Then He shall come, and shall enforce His righteousness
           unto a new people that shall then be born, because G_d had done this.


77 Jesus said, "It is I who am The Light which is above them all. It is I who am The All. From me did The All come forth, and unto me did The All extend. Split a piece of wood, and I am there. Lift up the stone, and you will find Me there."

[Dok]

Far from it, I'm just a voice in the wilderness, reading history to you my friend.

This is the voice of a prophet:

Psalm 23:

25     My praise shall be of You in every congregation:
           I will show my Love of You before those that fear You to be a tyrant.

26     The poor and destitute shall eat and be satisfied:
           they shall praise G_d that seek G_d: Your loveliness and belovedness shall endure eternally.

27     All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto G_d
           and all the offspring of all nations shall adore You.

28     For the universe is G_d:
           and They are the divine governance of all being.

29     All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship:
           all they that go down to the dust shall bow before G_d: and none other can keep alive a soul.

30     He shall serve G_d;
           all before shall be accounted to G_d by the sacrifice of His life.

31     Then He shall come, and shall enforce His righteousness
           unto a new people that shall then be born, because G_d had done this.

Gal 1
 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

 9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

 10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

 11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

 12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.



2 Peter 1
 19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

[agentbluescreen]

Probably Forged Letter to the Galatians 1

 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: (since you fail to heed my lies alone)

 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. (since my hateful 6 god version makes no sense in the context of Christ's commandments)

 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. (now he speaks of himself as a god too - 7 gods then! AND --- ignore any goddam "Angels" too!! LOL)

 9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. (now this 'we' god that is the living Paul-god, the 7th god, accurses people too! So "He" this 7th Paul-god is a warlord-god and satan-god in one, so- 8 gods?)

 10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. (so what is this Ceasar god bullshit in Romans?)


2 Peter 1
 19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Odd you should quote to me the proselytizing of the Roman traitor who was excommunicated from the Hebrew Apostolic faith, the Satan and Caesar worshipping Roman spy and tax collection agent Saul of Tarsus, who was not even an Apostle and never likely even met Our Savior!

Your corporate-gnostic Episco-Paulian Constantinian-bishop murdering false Dogma Book false-idol worshipping fascism is certainly most laughable and amusing!


This is where the Archbishop of Alexandria and his two Bishops were murdered by the Roman Corporate gnostics at Nicaea in 325 AD and the Logoi of Thomas the Apostle, Christ's brother were burned and if you read halfway down the page in this Nicene Murder Confession you will encounter the reasons why the Roman Corporatists of Antioch sided with the Tyrant Warlord Constantine against true genuine Hebrew Christianity!

Here is the corporate witches cauldron of heresies where the Paulinist "Six God Stew" your Constantinian gnostic-corporate "bible" teaches you to worship was brewed!

Using the false, politically contrived non-reasons given in the Murder Confession (halfway down the page at THE LETTER OF THE SYNOD IN NICAEA TO THE EGYPTIANS)  please explain how any of them are "Christian" or in accord with your belief in Jesus Christ?

THEY ARE ALL HERESIES!

It was unanimously agreed that anathemas should be pronounced against his impious opinion and his blasphemous terms and expressions which he has blasphemously applied to the Son of God,
saying

"he is from things that are not", and (G_d is a human warlord?)
"before he was begotten he was not", and (was He "resurrected twice" or reincarnated?)
"there once was when he was not", (is a "Son" not begotten?)

saying too that

by his own power the Son of God was capable of
evil and goodness, (then why tempt Him?)

and calling him
a creature and a work. (Jesus Christ was not born, suffered and died as a human creature?  nor a labor of G_d?)

Find out more about your G_d and Our Savior from his own beloved Apostle Thomas in accordance with the good advice peter gave you above at:

http://www.murple.net/thomas/thomas_coptic.html

You sinfully worship a noble-corporate gnostic history book of masonic-noble lies, heresies and half truths,  not Our G_d nor Our Savior and only King ever's teachings!

[xTruthSeekerx]

you have no idea whyat your even talking about it's hilarious

[netizen_x]

whats the difference between True Biblical Christianity and you??

Everything.

Christianity based on a book. What a joke! Talk about perverted justice and the perverted teachings of Christ. You should get down on your knees and repent Schnabelvonrom.

[Dok]

Odd you should quote to me the proselytizing of the Roman traitor who was excommunicated from the Hebrew Apostolic faith, the Satan and Caesar worshipping Roman spy and tax collection agent Saul of Tarsus, who was not even an Apostle and never likely even met Our Savior!

Your corporate-gnostic Episco-Paulian Constantinian-bishop murdering false Dogma Book false-idol worshipping fascism is certainly most laughable and amusing!


This is where the Archbishop of Alexandria and his two Bishops were murdered by the Roman Corporate gnostics at Nicaea in 325 AD and the Logoi of Thomas the Apostle, Christ's brother were burned and if you read halfway down the page in this Nicene Murder Confession you will encounter the reasons why the Roman Corporatists of Antioch sided with the Tyrant Warlord Constantine against true genuine Hebrew Christianity!

Here is the corporate witches cauldron of heresies where the Paulinist "Six God Stew" your Constantinian gnostic-corporate "bible" teaches you to worship was brewed!

Using the false, politically contrived non-reasons given in the Murder Confession (halfway down the page at THE LETTER OF THE SYNOD IN NICAEA TO THE EGYPTIANS)  please explain how any of them are "Christian" or in accord with your belief in Jesus Christ?

THEY ARE ALL HERESIES!

Find out more about your G_d and Our Savior from his own beloved Apostle Thomas in accordance with the good advice peter gave you above at:

http://www.murple.net/thomas/thomas_coptic.html

You sinfully worship a noble-corporate gnostic history book of masonic-noble lies, heresies and half truths,  not Our G_d nor Our Savior and only King ever's teachings!

Its odd that you fit the definition of a cult. You are saying you know better than God, you have fun with that sport. Paul was speaking of YOU.

[Dok]

Christianity based on a book. What a joke! Talk about perverted justice and the perverted teachings of Christ. You should get down on your knees and repent Schnabelvonrom.

what would you base your christianity on?? Your feelings? do you know better than God? or maybe your heart? Yes you know more than God. 

[netizen_x]

Odd you should quote to me the proselytizing of the Roman traitor who was excommunicated from the Hebrew Apostolic faith, the Satan and Caesar worshipping Roman spy and tax collection agent Saul of Tarsus, who was not even an Apostle and never likely even met Our Savior!

Thank Christ he never met the saviour. He would have killed him on the spot. And these biblical fundamentalists who are the exact mirror image of Islamic fundamentalists have to recourse to quoting everything before and after the gospels to support their arguments for 'Christianity'.

ie. Before the gospels = everything Jesus preached against. After: the hijacking of the faith by Roman authorities and every regime thereafter.

They can quote their asses off about everything before and after and have nothing of the spirit of Christ - tongues flapping in the wind.

[Dok]

Thank Christ he never met the saviour. He would have killed him on the spot. And these biblical fundamentalists who are the exact mirror image of Islamic fundamentalists have to recourse to quoting everything before and after the gospels to support their arguments for 'Christianity'.

ie. Before the gospels = everything Jesus preached against. After: the hijacking of the faith by Roman authorities and every regime thereafter.

They can quote their asses off about everything before and after and have nothing of the spirit of Christ - tongues flapping in the wind.

ahh, but Paul did meet Christ.

Gal 1
 10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

 11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

 12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

[netizen_x]

ahh, but Paul did meet Christ.

No, he didn't

[Dok]

No, he didn't

can you prove that?? No.. oh oK, guess well take Gods word over yours.

Gal 1
 10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

 11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

 12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

[netizen_x]

can you prove that?? No.. oh oK, guess well take Gods word over yours.

Gal 1
 10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

 11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

 12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

So you say Paul is God. You are a Paulian, not a Christian.

[netizen_x]

what would you base your christianity on?? Your feelings? do you know better than God? or maybe your heart? Yes you know more than God. 

Mark 13

9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them. 10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations. 11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

True faith is faith in God, not faith in a book.

[Dok]

So you say Paul is God. You are a Paulian, not a Christian.

where did i say Paul is God?? Trying to put words in my mouth?

Jesus picked Paul.

GAL 1
 12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Acts 9
 4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

 5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

 6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.


James, Cephas and John accept Paul.
GAL 2
 9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

 

And Peter really endorses Paul,
2 Peter 3:15-16

 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

 16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.


Im a Christian.

[Dok]

Mark 13

9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them. 10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations. 11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

True faith is faith in God, not faith in a book.

Romans 10:17

 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

[netizen_x]

where did i say Paul is God?? Trying to put words in my mouth?

Jesus picked Paul.

You obviously have no knowledge of history or the bible. Paul was a persecutor of Christians who eventually infiltrated the movement. You quote Paul's words as the word of God. That makes you a Paulian.

Paul and Jesus never met.

[Unintelligable Name]

Yet another derailed thread, courtesy of Bible quoters and their nitpickers.

It lasted about 4 posts... not too terrible but I think we can do a lot better.

[netizen_x]

Yet another derailed thread, courtesy of Bible quoters and their nitpickers.

It lasted about 4 posts... not too terrible but I think we can do a lot better.

  I'm not supporting Zeitgeist. It's just I can't stand funda-mentalists of any variety. They follow books instead of using their brains and hearts.

[Dok]

You obviously have no knowledge of history or the bible. Paul was a persecutor of Christians who eventually infiltrated the movement. You quote Paul's words as the word of God. That makes you a Paulian.

Paul and Jesus never met.

Its you who dont know the word of God.

Acts 9
 4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

 5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

 6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

[Dok]

Yet another derailed thread, courtesy of Bible quoters and their nitpickers.

It lasted about 4 posts... not too terrible but I think we can do a lot better.

Oh i agree, but any chance to attack a christian and they take it.