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Man Recalls Attack on USS Liberty
« on: June 08, 2009, 09:02:17 pm »
Today is the 42nd anniversery of the Attack on the USS Liberty by the Israelis

Check out the story at lagrandeobserver.com

Alex Jones should interview this guy.

http://www.lagrandeobserver.com/News/Local-News/La-Grande-man-vividly-recalls-attack-on-USS-Liberty

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Re: Man Recalls Attack on USS Liberty
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2009, 09:04:06 pm »
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Re: Man Recalls Attack on USS Liberty
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2009, 09:13:25 pm »
Today is the 42nd anniversery of the Attack on the USS Liberty by the Israelis

Check out the story at lagrandeobserver.com

Alex Jones should interview this guy.

http://www.lagrandeobserver.com/News/Local-News/La-Grande-man-vividly-recalls-attack-on-USS-Liberty



Bob Schnell was wounded but did not have time to feel pain.

Forty-two years ago this afternoon Schnell was one of 254 men aboard the U.S.S. Liberty, a non-combat intelligence gathering U.S. Navy ship 11 to 12 miles from the Sinai Peninsula.

Suddenly a quiet afternoon on the Mediterranean Sea became deafening. Rockets and 50-caliber machine gun bullets began raining from the sky, one of which ripped through Schnell’s right knee.
Schnell and his shipmates, some of whom had been sunbathing on deck, all were asking the same question between terrified gasps: What’s happening?

The ship’s crew members soon learned to their horror what was occurring, but four decades later nobody knows why.

Israel, a U.S. ally in the midst of its Six-Day War with Egypt, Jordan and Syria, was attacking the Liberty, a ship that had only four machine guns. The bombardment, which started at 1:30 p.m., lasted two hours.

The toll from bullets and rockets fired from Israeli planes and torpedoes launched from boats was devastating — 35 men were killed and 171 were wounded.

Schnell, who has lived in La Grande since 1969, talked about his injury.

“It did not hurt that much,’’ said Schnell, then a second class U.S. Navy communications technician.

Today he has plastic kneecap because of the bullet wound but considers himself among the most fortunate members of the Liberty’s crew.

“Most of those who were hurt were wounded much more seriously than I was.’’

Finally at 3:30 p.m. the Israelis pulled back. The battered Liberty was still afloat but had 800 holes from machine gun bullets.

“It was dead in the water,’’ Schnell said.

It was only able to crawl through the Mediterranean at a pace of 3 to 5 knots. It did not meet up with a fleet of U.S. Navy ships sent to rescue it until 7 a.m. the next day, 15 1/2 hours after the attack.

The wait was the longest of Schnell’s life as he and others, also ignoring injuries, did everything they could to help the wounded with limited medical supplies and personnel.

Schnell said he will never forget the sight of the fleet of U.S. ships.

“It was such a relief to see the American flags,’’ Schnell said.

The Liberty also had a clearly visible U.S. flag when Israeli planes opened fire the day before. The ship was clearly identified with 5-foot-tall letters on its front and 1- to 2-foot-tall letters on its stern. This makes the attack that much more inexplicable.

Israeli officials said that the attack was a tragic case of mistaken identity. They claimed that the Liberty was mistaken for the El Arish, an Egyptian cattle ship.

Schnell does not see how this was possible since the Liberty, which was in international waters, was not only clearly marked but 100 feet longer than the El Arish.

The days and years following the attack have been painful and frustrating for Schnell and his shipmates. They were frustrating because the magnitude of the incident was kept quiet by the U.S. government, which did not allow the survivors to speak about it for years.

“I was told that we absolutely could not talk about it. If we did, we were told we could be fined $100,000 and spend 20 years in the brig (military prison). Everybody else I know was also told this,’’ Schnell said.

News of the attack reached the United States through the international press. The U.S. government did not acknowledge it for years, Schnell said. The incident received limited press coverage and was often referred to as an “alleged attack.’’

The veil of secrecy was partially lifted in 1979 when a book by James M. Ennes Jr., “Assault On The Liberty’’ was published, bringing the tragic incident to light.

Ennes wrote of many theories for why the attack occurred. Schnell, who lauds Ennes’s book, has his own theory.

He said the United States, had provided Israel with extensive intelligence including photos from U-2 spy planes of Egypt’s military operations. In exchange, Israel had agreed to respect the United States’ request that Israel not expand its territory.

Israel, though, was violating the United States’ wishes during the war, taking Gaza Strip and Sinai Peninsula from Egypt, the West Bank from Jordan and the the Golan Heights from Syria.

Schnell said he believes Israel was afraid the Liberty crew would discover what it was doing and report it. The United States might have stepped in and prevented Israel from expanding its territory if this had occurred, Schnell said.

Israel felt it had to attack the U.S.S. Liberty, Schnell said he believes.

“They wanted to shut us down and shut us up,’’ Schnell said.

Ironically, Schnell felt much safer on the Liberty than he had months earlier when he was involved in the Vietnam War. Schnell was part of flight crews that flew 128 missions over North Vietnam.

His planes were shot down twice, both times over the Gulf of Tonkin. The first time five of the seven men in Schnell’s crew died. The second time all survived and were rescued.

Schnell, who grew up in Milton-Freewater, was honorably discharged from the Navy in 1968. He then returned to Northeast Oregon and enrolled at Eastern Oregon University, from which he graduated in 1971.

Schnell, now retired, knows of crew members who were not able to cope with the emotional aftermath of the attack and the frustration of not being recognized for what they endured. The emotional strain took a physical toll.

“The stress ate them up. It killed them at an early age. Some died in their mid-30s,’’ Schnell said.

The La Grande resident pauses momentarily when asked about the emotional fallout he has experienced.

“Yes, I’m bitter. I just cope,’’ Schnell said.

Talking about the incident is not a cathartic one for Schnell. He said that his best coping mechanism is pushing it out of his mind.

“I try not think about it.’’

Few things would make Schnell feel better than if there were a congressional investigation of the incident. He wants to know why the attack occurred and why the United States government has worked so hard to keep the incident quiet.

A congressional investigation would change this.

“I’d like for our government to acknowledge we existed and bring it into the public eye.’’

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Re: Man Recalls Attack on USS Liberty
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2009, 09:22:46 pm »
I was pleased to see this article on the fron page of our local paper today actually I was in shock when I read it not the usual news for these guys.

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Re: Man Recalls Attack on USS Liberty
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2009, 09:45:20 pm »
Our friends, the Israelis.

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Re: Man Recalls Attack on USS Liberty
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2009, 10:58:51 pm »

My heart goes out to these men and family. It does not however go out to the pols.

Its not simply UnAmerican and treason, its inhuman.

Blame Isreael, OK, but bear in mind our masters didn't give one twit about their own. Things have not changed, they still do not.

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Re: Man Recalls Attack on USS Liberty
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2009, 11:24:34 pm »
Jerome Corce(sp) covered it today, interviewed the ranking NCO below decks. Destroyed his life because Govt told him to shut up, everyone else said he was nuts. Want me to find the link?
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Re: Man Recalls Attack on USS Liberty
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2009, 11:27:29 pm »
I was pleased to see this article on the fron page of our local paper today actually I was in shock when I read it not the usual news for these guys.

Yeah, that's surprising.
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Re: Man Recalls Attack on USS Liberty
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2009, 03:56:56 am »
Jerome Corce(sp) covered it today, interviewed the ranking NCO below decks. Destroyed his life because Govt told him to shut up, everyone else said he was nuts. Want me to find the link?

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Re: Man Recalls Attack on USS Liberty
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2009, 04:26:07 am »
Our friends, the Israelis.

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Hell yeah! Go Israel! Go Go Go! We should let them bomb more of our ships and have Obama call the ship up and literally make farting noises into the phone and fake crying as it sinks to the bottom of the ocean.

The first time around with the Liberty wasn't quite insane enough.

Freakin' Guberment playing God.... Geez.

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Re: Man Recalls Attack on USS Liberty
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2009, 07:56:07 pm »
By June 8 1967 Israel already occupied all Sinai peninsula and IDF were at the Suez Canal. This was not a secret and the whole world knew it.So to think Israel attacked USS Liberty because they wanted to hide their advance on the front is ridiculous.On the other hand Bob Schnell said attack on ship was 2 hour long,so it is very interesting to know from him how the WWII ship sustained such enormous attack and managed to stay aflot.That what the Congress will ask him,he want the Congressional investigation right?So the Congress will ask questions what he was doing during attack,where he was, to claim such things about for how long the ship was under attack,and he must answer where he was,and what he was doing. The article said he was a pilot during Vietnam war so the Congress will ask him question how much ammunition the fighter plane must have in order to constantly fire for whole 2 hour without brake and he must answer to the Congress.
It is very interesting to read that the sailors were enjoying the beautiful day and sunbating.What a wonderful and peacefull picture right,when the war was just 14 miles away.So here is the answer to his question why Israel attacked the ship,because the ship was in the area of war of 100 miles that Israel declared,and USA did not tell Israel that american ship was there.The mission was a secret not only to Israel,but for many is americans too. This is the answer ,and by the way USS Liberty was look like military ship,especially to the pilot who was flying above.

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Re: Man Recalls Attack on USS Liberty
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2009, 08:16:19 pm »
By June 8 1967 Israel already occupied all Sinai peninsula and IDF were at the Suez Canal. This was not a secret and the whole world knew it.So to think Israel attacked USS Liberty because they wanted to hide their advance on the front is ridiculous.On the other hand Bob Schnell said attack on ship was 2 hour long,so it is very interesting to know from him how the WWII ship sustained such enormous attack and managed to stay aflot.That what the Congress will ask him,he want the Congressional investigation right?So the Congress will ask questions what he was doing during attack,where he was, to claim such things about for how long the ship was under attack,and he must answer where he was,and what he was doing. The article said he was a pilot during Vietnam war so the Congress will ask him question how much ammunition the fighter plane must have in order to constantly fire for whole 2 hour without brake and he must answer to the Congress.
It is very interesting to read that the sailors were enjoying the beautiful day and sunbating.What a wonderful and peacefull picture right,when the war was just 14 miles away.So here is the answer to his question why Israel attacked the ship,because the ship was in the area of war of 100 miles that Israel declared,and USA did not tell Israel that american ship was there.The mission was a secret not only to Israel,but for many is americans too. This is the answer ,and by the way USS Liberty was look like military ship,especially to the pilot who was flying above.

this was a joint zionazi project fr the queen bitch. it involved both israel and us at the highest levels. everything you say is true, but the israeli pilots reported seeing the american flag and refused to fire. they were told they would spend their life in jail if they did not fire. they purposefully made the most ridiculous attempt to sink the ship (people really believe that the israeli pilots of the time could not sink a ship). But by doing that they of course caused horrendous suffering to those on board.

Now there could be an argument made to say that the israelis were given info that egypt would be flying the US colors and it was a sneak attack, but given that the nazis founded israel and given their history with ringeworm children, trying to make excuses for the zionazis on the top (who are just knights to the british empire) and only laying blame on the nazi president of the US (who was also acting on behalf of the queen bitch like when he allowed Harriman/Rockefeller/Bush to blow JFK's brains out) is a bit biased IMO.
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Re: Man Recalls Attack on USS Liberty
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2009, 03:53:46 am »
At the National Cryptologic Museum at NSA, Ft. Meade MD. We have a memorial display for the USS Liberty.

If you go to the website you will find lots of information and documents about the USS Liberty.

http://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic_heritage/museum/index.shtml

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Re: Man Recalls Attack on USS Liberty
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2010, 12:45:03 am »
The dark face of Jewish nationalism
http://www.redress.cc/zionism/asabrosky20100312

Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former director of studies at the US Army War College says that the military brass now know that Israel and those traitors within our nation committed the 911 attack.

http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/2010/03

Very important info, our government leaders have dual citizenship to Israel and now their part in 9/11 has been exposed, with Mossad behind 9/11 as well as rogue factions in the US government.

This is key to ending the Tyranny and New World Order, if you want to know the guilty you only have to look to the pushers of the New World Order they have already revealed themselves. Its time to take action and get our country back and cleanse our government of the traitors.

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Man Recalls Attack on USS Liberty
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2012, 11:44:43 am »
Oh no.....this isnt anti-semitic.  Remember, most jews in Israel today are Ashkenazi.  They are NOT semites. 

Second, the USS Liberty attack is JUST now getting publicity.  These assholes went and shot our guys to shit when we were there to help them.  They waited till the sailors were all out on the deck of the Liberty sun bathing and then strafed the ship with their jets, following it up with torpedos. 

The problem is the Israelis couldnt sink the LIBERTY

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Re: Man Recalls Attack on USS Liberty
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2012, 07:43:56 am »
   This Year has Marked the 45th Anniversary of the Disgraceful Attack upon USS Liberty

   There should be an Investigation into what Happened upon the 8th of June 1967
 
   Also there should be a Monument to the Disgraceful Attack upon USS Liberty itself and
   for any Political Cover Ups to be Brought to Public Light

   Liberty America  :)