Synopsis: Jones interviews JTCoyote on the recent DEA raid of his residence and how this relates to the federal InfraGuard program. They also touch on recent problems due to inappropriate comments on the Prisonplanet and Infowars websites.
//transcript begins approximately 1:40 into the 6/8/09 broadcast//
AJ: So now we go to JTCoyote joining us from Colorado. JTCoyote, in a nutshell, tell folks what happened.
JT: Well Alex, it was pretty crazy. It’s good talking with you, by the way.
AJ: Good having you on with us. Glad you weren’t killed by the SWAT team.
JT: I'll tell you, it could have turned ugly real quick. I’m a gunsmith. And I run my business out of my home. So…
AJ: Century 21 did well though. Stazi…
JT: They did their job under InfraGuard. It’s amazing how quickly they worked too. But any time a federal warrant is issued…they came in, they were two hours late, they came in. They were supposed to be one realtor and a buyer that was interested. Well it turned out to be like a convention of Century 21 real estate agents. And, they were interested…they came in…the one guy was interested in my telescope, another guy interested in my dog. And they fanned out all over the place.
AJ: That’s an excuse. They were running, probably, a black op. They get kickback goodies for whoever they rat.
JT: All they had to do was see something that they could say was. And the firearms were secondary. They saw by annealing apparatus in my lower bathroom where I anneal hundred-year-old cartridge cases to make them usable again for these old antique firearms. People like to shoot their old relics. And…
AJ: But they do describe in the warrant that guns were seen.
JT: Oh, yeah.
AJ: Whoa, my God. And this is…and it said this is consistent with a meth lab.
AJ: …that firearms mean you’re a meth lab.
JT: …in their head. So, this guy goes down and swears a complaint against me. And because he used that term, “meth lab”, that automatically brings in the DEA. So a federal warrant is issued. Now, the sheriff in the county, any time a federal warrant is issued, he has to honor that. And when he found out that it was me…I’ve known John for years. And he goes, “Oh, no. We’re not gonna have one of those in here. Not with him.”
AJ: Thank God you had a good sheriff who wasn’t drunk at the bar at night. He actually was watching the warrants coming across his desk like he’s supposed to.
JT: Exactly. John Minor is a constitutional sheriff par excellence. And he’s what everyone prays they have as a sheriff in their county. He was off-duty. He hadn’t slept. He’d been up…I mean the sheriff’s work is never done. And it was street clothes…him and the Chief of Police, Mark Hanschmidt. They both knew that this could go ugly because they all know what I do. And I keep loaded weapons around. We live in an area where the biggest drug bust in county history happened 2 years ago 2 blocks from my house. So we’re in that grey zone between commercial and residential. So, I’m like you, Alex. You got that .357 in the drawer there?
AJ: Yeah. Right here.
JT: You bet’cha. And I’ve got several of them. And my daughter, she’s pretty. And some of these young boys from south of the border…she’s pretty in that way. She’s…the Indian is favored in her. And she’s got stalkers. She’s 17 years old, you know? And we don’t know who’s gonna come through that door. So the problem here was the way the whole thing went down in town. They invented stuff. Did you read that incident report?
AJ: Oh, it was just absolutely insane. This is how America is. This is what they do. Listen folks. When workers are in your house now and see a bruise on your kid’s leg, you don’t know if a SWAT team’s coming because that’s the new…all of America is being converted to the Defense Department and the private agencies that the…defense contractors owning the red lights, threat fusion centers, the police training. Most of the new college grads are law enforcement related, literally. They’re converting everything over. So that’s how those realtors make their money is getting a cut off of who they rat out. So they just run around 24-7 tattling on people.
JT: …or if they can get a property. See, we were selling our house. That’s why they were here. If they can get a property condemned as a meth lab, they can pick it up for nickels in the dollar.
AJ: No, I know. For people that don’t know, this country has collapsed already. People just haven’t figured it out yet. It’s kind of like somebody dies next to you at the theater and at the end of the movie they guy’s sweeping up the popcorn and they go, “Sir, sir.” And they find out he’s dead. He’s been dead for 2 hours. The country’s pretty much dead. We might be able to defibrillate it with some shockers if we wake up now and do it. But it’s just total tattletale spies. News admits the kids are being trained to turn in their parents. This isn’t freedom. While the government ships in the heroin an cocaine in and pushes Ritalin and Prozac on the kids, JTCoyote.
JT: Umm, hmm.
AJ: But thank God the sheriff came. He told you, “Now the SWAT team’s coming around the door.” What happened next?
JT: Well, when he showed up, the dog started barking. He showed up. And Mark. knocked on the door. They were both dressed in street clothes with their sheriff’s blazers. Neither one of them was armed. They said, “JT, We gotta talk to you.” And I said, “Well, come on in. I’ll put on a pot of coffee.” They said, “No. We’re gonna have to talk outside.” And that’s when I knew something was up. John apologized profusely. It should’ve never gone that way had they contacted the Sheriff to begin with. And he says to me, “In about 2 minutes a DEA SWAT team is going to be searching your home.” And I laughed. I couldn’t believe it. And he gave the high sign. The boys came over. And John had prepped them. He says, “Look. They’re in my county. This is gonna be done my way.” And they were…
AJ: So anyways, they went around your house and came out, admitted nothing was there and…
AJ: And one of them shook your hands for doing reloading ‘cause a lot of cops are into guns.
JT: Well, you know. If you walk through my house, Alex, every room has at least 4 or 5 firearms leaning up against the wall.
AJ: ‘Cause you’re a gunsmith. You’re allowed to have your job. It’s what you do. You’re not evil.
JT: Exactly. Exactly. It’s what I do. And the guys…we sat around for about 20 minutes and we discussed what could have happened had the Sheriff not intervened.
AJ: They were still acting like they were your friends. ‘Cause they…the creeps admit they were recording you the whole time you were friendly talking to them.
JT: Yeah. The whole thing was going on. And that there was the questions…I just wanted to know if they were training real estate agents to identify meth labs. And the answer to that was yes. And this guy had gone through an 80-hour course. 80 hours. And he’s calling my reloading equipment a meth lab. Now what does that tell you about the level of instruction?
AJ: Well I would know what reloading equipment was in a half a second. I’ve seen it in so many rural homes…
AJ: …in my own family. But I guess, to them, a big cranking stamper, the parts, the casings. I guess it looked like drugs to him. But basically, if all you had in your house was American Idol and Janet Jamison videos, everything would’ve been OK.
JT: Yeah. //crosstalk//
AJ: You had guns and we all know that’s why this happened. And, yeah, they’re taking all these different industry people with InfraGuard and training them for anti-terror, anti-drug. You see these FBI ads about recruiting farmers to fight Al-Qaeda. Once they get to the meeting, it’s, “Does you neighbor have a well that’s not metered?”
AJ: “Is your neighbor smoking pot? Is your neighbor not paying taxes?” People show up to these anti-terror meetings and they find out the people are the terrorists. And they say, “Oh, We’re gonna tattle and spy on neighbors to fight Al-Qaeda.” ‘Cause that sounds reasonable. But once you get there it’s, “Does your neighbor spank their kids?” And I’ve shown those news articles and federal documents here on-air. This is what everything’s being converted to. Now what would’ve happened if the SWAT team would’ve come kicking in the door? Half the time they don’t even announce, “Police.” You would’ve been sitting there you said at your computer at night probably moderating Prisonplanet dot com forum.
JT: As a matter of fact, I was on Infowars deleting all kinds of stuff because of what you were talking about earlier. And that’s a whole different story.
AJ: So you’re on there deleting “Do this to the cops. Kill this. Kill that.” And here come the cops.
JT: Alex, the ones that get through are one percent of the ones that get posted.
AJ: Well it’s just insane.
JT: It’s insane. And for me, it’s exciting because I…at that time of the day.
AJ: No, no. I’m not griping at you and the three or four volunteer moderators. I’m saying I gotta get full time people here doing it or get rid of it because it’s like just FBI, people popping up, Secret Service here at the office, sopeanas and guys with guns and sun glasses…I mean it’s getting out of control. JTCoyote, stay right there, my friend. This is the GCN radio network. This could happen to any of you out there. I bet it’s already happened to a lot of you. We could take a lot of calls on that subject.
AJ: //Monologue edited regarding socially engineered erosion of Second Amendment// So, JTCoyote, thank God you weren’t killed in any of this.
JT: Thank God they didn’t hammer jack my front door because there would’ve been a couple of them going out too. Body armor not withstanding, I don’t bring a popgun to a canon fight.
AJ: To be clear. Because you’re saying you might not have known if it was police.
JT: Say again now.
AJ: You might not have known if it was police.
JT: Well, no. The direction they came in, I don’t have access to the view. I’ve got my computer set up where I can look out the front door but I can’t see the direction they came from. Plus I have a view of all 3 entrances into the house. And, Alex, I have a couple of firearms sitting here and they’re loaded and chambered. There’s no small children here so it purely…I’m a gunsmith. You grab one of my old antique rifles, and that’s enough to buy your…pay for your drug habit for a month because some of these are worth many thousands of dollars. This whole thing could’ve gotten ugly real quick. And the Sheriff knew that.
AJ: And it’s all because…He did those guys a favor, those DEA guys a favor. If you wanna stop the drugs, stop the government from shipping it in. You bozos know that.
The issue here is, JTCoyote, is that you can’t have the services…you can’t just have a realtor in your house. You can’t just have a plumber in your house. And not all of them are doing this but the big outfits generally are. It’s the big…
JT: Well there was deception there too Alex. You’ve gotta realize that our realtor was told that it would be one realtor and a hot prospective buyer. And it ended up being a group of Century 21 realtors. That right there is under false pretences. So we’re checking the legal ramifications of that because we have the conversation between out realtor and this guy on tape. It was on an answering machine. So this isn’t by any means over. These guys…there has to be some responsibility for people like realtors and carpet cleaners. If you’re gonna accuse somebody of something and somebody gets killed you need to pay. And…
AJ: They never do. They give them medals. JTCoyote, we appreciate the great work that you’re doing. But stay there one more minute. I want you to spend five minutes talking about how crazy it is trying to moderate Infowars dot com, Prisonplanet dot com, and Prisonplanet dot com dot forum.
AJ: //dialogue with Joe Bannister edited// JTCoyote, just finishing up in 2 minutes, tell folks how crazy, how many death threats, how many things you’ve got to erase off Infowars and Prisonplanet.
JT: Oh, buddy. Between last Thursday, when the Virginia shooting article showed up, and when mine showed up…you know, because a lot of people don’t like me because I will delete their stuff and anytime I see them, they’re gone. I probably deleted 500 posts off of Infowars alone. And of those, a good 20 percent were bordering on direct death threats against the cop or against me or against the realtor of all things in that article. And people forget that just because they’re anonymous doesn’t mean that they can’t be found. And when you make threats like that, you’re gonna be…you’re hurting the forum. Now the Prisonplanet forum, the regular chat forum, where we all started out here a couple of years ago, that runs itself because the people that we have in there…we can delete people and make sure they don’t come back. But the blogs are totally different, buddy. And…
AJ: No. I know. It’s absolute wild-west insane asylum.
AJ: And it drives the site. It’s really exciting and wild-west. And we’re using that to build everything. But at the same time you’ve gotta get some controls. JTCoyote, thank you for all the great work you do and God bless you.
JT: You’re welcome. God bless you too, buddy. And keep it up.
AJ: I’ll try. Alright, I’m gonna get into a bunch of economic news on the other side and we got Joe Bannister coming in studio.