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« on: May 31, 2009, 06:17:25 PM »

Alan Watt and others have often talked that part of the plan, through the estrogen hormones leaking into the plastics, is to upset the previous male/female established order - in other words, feminize the boys and masculize the girls. We have also established this is part of the reason why the Y chromosome is disappearing (translation: when it has disappeared, say goodbye to 'man') and why girls are entering puberty when they are five (although the hormones injected into the milk also is to blame). Sperm banks worldwide are reporting record losses.

But here it comes: how do we get these 'boys' to look even more like 'hermaphrodites'? In other words, a boy that looks more like a girl than he does a boy? Well, enter Japan - they are at the forefront there. They have a gameshow - where boys are transformed (through extensive makeup) into girls - and the results are impressive. I mean, go check it out yourself - it's CREEPY:

JUST AS A REMINDER - ALL THE GIRLS YOU SEE BELOW ARE REALLY 'BOYS'



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJA4Wy6s9fc&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXvtrpSimxg&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4OPAJR3xsE&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1YKQp2Cbmc&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puamENGN1Tk&feature=related



When a simple make-up job can have such an impressive effect, you've got to wonder how far they can push this? And you've got to wonder what the combined effect must be on the males in Japan who are subject to this television show - when they see this, they want to look 'prettier', more 'feminine' THAN 'feminine'. You can already see this in the US and the western world, but the Japanese just push it to the ultimate degree. I seriously think this is what the elite want - it is part of their 'perception is reality' strategy - if it LOOKS like a girl, then it is a girl. When I tell you nobody is watching you, then nobody is watching you. It's this new-agey 'there's no reality but what I say it is'.

And it isn't just Japan. Search on Youtube and you can find the same gameshows (crossdressing dudes) in Korea and China. And the 'best' Japanese male models even got the chance to do a catwalk previously reserved only for women.
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2009, 06:20:56 PM »

Beam me up Scotty!
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2009, 06:22:36 PM »

A worldwide society of androgenous fascists. I just don't fit into this time in history.
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2009, 06:29:06 PM »

Try reading the manga or anime.  The way the guys are drawn you think that are girls. 
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2009, 07:21:17 PM »

Try reading the manga or anime.  The way the guys are drawn you think that are girls. 

Here's a mind blower - this pin-up girl from the Japanese videogame series Ridge Racer obviously looks great, but it can be a real mind-blower when you figure out THE GUY WHO DESIGNED HER ADMITS HER FACE IS BASED ON HIS OWN. Imagine a designer having erotic fantasies when he's away from his wife and children, working hard debugging and programming in an anonymous office building, and then relieving his primal urges by programming a virtual pin-up girl and putting his 'own face' on it. Sociologists could write a whole book on it.

http://virtualwomen.blogspot.com/2006/11/thats-not-woman-thats-man-baby.html

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Reiko Nagase is part man. It seems that the Japanese developer who"birthed" Reiko couldn't locate a woman's face for "her", so he had a quick shave, conducted a spot of eyebrow plucking, and scanned his own head in. Not since The Crying Game have we felt so strangely compelled to give our respective mothers a call.

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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2009, 07:25:38 PM »

Here's a mind blower - this pin-up girl from the Japanese videogame series Ridge Racer obviously looks great, but it can be a real mind-blower when you figure out THE GUY WHO DESIGNED HER ADMITS HER FACE IS BASED ON HIS OWN. Imagine a designer having erotic fantasies when he's away from his wife and children, working hard debugging and programming in an anonymous office building, and then relieving his primal urges by programming a virtual pin-up girl and putting his 'own face' on it. Sociologists could write a whole book on it.

http://virtualwomen.blogspot.com/2006/11/thats-not-woman-thats-man-baby.html




I saw a movie about that called Silence of the Lambs.
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2009, 10:30:41 PM »

Try reading the manga or anime.  The way the guys are drawn you think that are girls. 

How many Manga/Anime have you actually read/watched?

I've only seen a small few that were like that.
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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2009, 10:35:21 PM »

Those people must be up to something... hmmm
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2009, 10:42:35 PM »

Here is the thing about television. It is voluntary. So if it is putting out garbage and you watch it then you get what you deserve.
Liberty, it works both ways. Better they allow this than not. Why? Because it is a slippery slope down the censorship slide.

How many Manga/Anime have you actually read/watched?

I've only seen a small few that were like that.

SSSHHH! These are the same guys who if they went to Tokyo and saw the typical newsstand and what exactly they sold out in the open they would be horrified. Androgynous crossdressers? Man that is so tame compared to some of the anime niches.

Of course, the flip side of it is that when you pressure cook your society like the Japanese have, you get all kinds of weird stuff. And I mean weird. Walking down the street in Osaka or Tokyo is like taking a really good psylocibin trip the first time you go there. You have to really broaden your scope of thought to understand the Japanese when you come from the West. Television? That is just the beginning of the weird in Japan.
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2009, 11:10:33 PM »

How many Manga/Anime have you actually read/watched?

I've only seen a small few that were like that.

Depends on the genre most of the time. Shojo anime is all about the pretty boys as is anything shonen-ai (boy love as in boy on boy action written for girls...and guys of that persuasion). Fantasy anime also has its collection of bishonen (pretty boys), but there are truly manly men in anime and manga. Look at shows like Berserk, Bastard, Cowboy Bebop, most of the Gundam series...there's lots of manly men, too. And it's not like the women are any more realistic than the men--boobs don't come that big in real life (especially if you're looking at hentai {porn} manga and anime).

If you think this game show is new for Japan, however, check out Miyavi (good music btw) who definitely down with the gender bend as well as Gackt. There is a whole genre of music and subculture dedicated to the men who are prettier than women thing in Asia--it is based more in Japan to my knowledge, however.

Also something to think about, Japan is rather heavy/extreme when it comes to aesthetic. Their art is an example of this as well as things such as ikebana (flower arranging) or kabuki (no naturalism in that make up job...). If you go as far as the geisha (which merely means woman of art), then every act, everything you wear, every word you speak is art. Heck, Asia turned killing into an art form--look at martial arts. While I agree these extreme examples are good poster children for how the NWO screws with our heads, it is not surprising to see it come from Japan.

Here is the thing about television. It is voluntary. So if it is putting out garbage and you watch it then you get what you deserve.
Liberty, it works both ways. Better they allow this than not. Why? Because it is a slippery slope down the censorship slide.

SSSHHH! These are the same guys who if they went to Tokyo and saw the typical newsstand and what exactly they sold out in the open they would be horrified. Androgynous crossdressers? Man that is so tame compared to some of the anime niches.

Of course, the flip side of it is that when you pressure cook your society like the Japanese have, you get all kinds of weird stuff. And I mean weird. Walking down the street in Osaka or Tokyo is like taking a really good psylocibin trip the first time you go there. You have to really broaden your scope of thought to understand the Japanese when you come from the West. Television? That is just the beginning of the weird in Japan.

Agreed. And agreed about the weird.

Japan really is a repressed culture in so many ways--bound by a very strict culture code. Hell, you can't NOT be confining class wise because of the way the language is structured. There's what?--at least 6 different forms of "I" which varies based on your gender, age, and level of politeness within a conversation. The body language etiquette is also of equal caliber. In a strange way it makes sense that an extreme level of refinement that functions as confinement within communication results in extreme art. I respect their art, even though you get extreme examples like this one.

On the up side, seeing how much you can change the exterior of person, it made me philosophize on what really is the core of masculine and feminine which I think is the question many of these demonstrations are calling forth. Women who are unhappy with demands put upon them acting like men to try to not be seen as a sex object. Meanwhile, men are dressing like women so they don't have to maintain an impossible facade of the always put together man. I think for the men, it's a desire to have some sort of freedom to show "weakness" as in openly express emotion. I could be wrong. Usually if people are outwardly challenging gender roles, it's trying to fulfill a need that isn't being met. Women learned to dress like men to "be seen" as equals. Now, there is little difference in how men and women dress and women are more unhappy than ever. Is there a connection? I think it's bigger than just who wears the lipstick, but there is something trying to be communicated here.
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2009, 11:21:54 PM »

it's as if you guys think this is something new?

let's say males have been playing female roles in kabuki since the 1600s.
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2009, 11:27:01 PM »

Japanese have wierd fetishes Tongue

not all of them...but some, some...
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2009, 11:39:26 PM »

Japanese have wierd fetishes Tongue

not all of them...but some, some...

Every society has its own weird fetishes. 

Check out some German sheisse videos if you want weird (and you want to get nauseous)...
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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2009, 11:41:13 PM »

um like 2 girls ...... 1 .....
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2009, 01:41:35 AM »

Here's a mind blower - this pin-up girl from the Japanese videogame series Ridge Racer obviously looks great, but it can be a real mind-blower when you figure out THE GUY WHO DESIGNED HER ADMITS HER FACE IS BASED ON HIS OWN. Imagine a designer having erotic fantasies when he's away from his wife and children, working hard debugging and programming in an anonymous office building, and then relieving his primal urges by programming a virtual pin-up girl and putting his 'own face' on it. Sociologists could write a whole book on it.

http://virtualwomen.blogspot.com/2006/11/thats-not-woman-thats-man-baby.html



How you know he is married and with kids?
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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2009, 02:19:12 AM »

Alan Watt and others have often talked that part of the plan,

What exactly is 'the plan' , what are they up to ?
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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2009, 07:34:53 AM »

How many Manga/Anime have you actually read/watched?

I've only seen a small few that were like that.
Try this anime series

Fruit Basket

One of the main characters is Yuki Sohma is guy but the girls ask him to where a dress for a charitable cause.

Another of the characters Momji, dresses in the girls school uniform, even though he is a guy.

It was a funny series but lines of boy/girl were certainly blurred.

I will post some more up later.





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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2009, 07:50:48 AM »

Another manga

ai wo utau yori ore ni oborero

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaue_Rosen


Not all manga/anime is like this.  You have some excellent series like Ghost in the Shell.  But every now and then you come across so anime that makes you do a double take and ask if the main character is a boy or girl.

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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2009, 08:21:11 AM »

Another manga

ai wo utau yori ore ni oborero

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaue_Rosen


Not all manga/anime is like this.  You have some excellent series like Ghost in the Shell.  But every now and then you come across so anime that makes you do a double take and ask if the main character is a boy or girl.

BTW - just so you know... it's admitted Ghost In The Shell was based on Arthur Koestler's 'Ghost In The Machine' book. Arthur Koestler was the 'freak' who worked together with Bertrand Russell for the British intelligence agencies to promote 'certain' convictions/ideas (Alan Watt even claims that Arthur Koestler worked with Stalin to devise the Ukranian genocide starvation plan, though I have yet to conform this). In his book 'Ghost In The Machine', he talks about the need to make 'homo maniacus' less dangerous by attacking the 'neo cortex' - that means damaging it.  A nice guy I'm sure you'll agree - not to mention he raped women.

And in another game/book/movie, Parasite Eve, the mitachondrial DNA theory is explored. In that game/book, a woman claims at a certain point she is mitachondrial Eve, which would make her the grandmother of all living beings. Then it basically devolves into a horror story - mitachondrial 'Eve' goes around New York absorbing everything she comes in contact with - humans, animals, you name it - she triggers the mitochondria into releasing a burst of energy or whatever and that turns them into a grotesquely misshaped monster she can then absorb. This is the stuff that has these nutcases who follow the Glenn Kealey information all hyped up - they believe their DNA is 'better' than yours, and to prove it, you have to give Mr Kealey a thousand bucks or so so you'll get your place in his version of 'heaven'.  So this guy is mitachondrial Adam to Parasite Eve's 'mitachondrial Eve'.

No, I'm not kidding. The Outlaw forums is where these guys usually reside. And one of them - Matterik - has his own channel dedicated where he tries to prove 'Kealey's theories' - such as growing your hair as a spiritual antenna and whatnot. It would be funny if it weren't such a huge bloody waste of time that could be better spent actually talking to people about real issues and not looking like a nutcase, but I guess that's what COINTEL does to people.

It's too bad, because that guy - Matterik - was imparting some genuine information a year ago before he went totally nuts with this bull.
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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2009, 12:00:25 PM »

BTW - just so you know... it's admitted Ghost In The Shell was based on Arthur Koestler's 'Ghost In The Machine' book. Arthur Koestler was the 'freak' who worked together with Bertrand Russell for the British intelligence agencies to promote 'certain' convictions/ideas (Alan Watt even claims that Arthur Koestler worked with Stalin to devise the Ukranian genocide starvation plan, though I have yet to conform this). In his book 'Ghost In The Machine', he talks about the need to make 'homo maniacus' less dangerous by attacking the 'neo cortex' - that means damaging it.  A nice guy I'm sure you'll agree - not to mention he raped women.

And in another game/book/movie, Parasite Eve, the mitachondrial DNA theory is explored. In that game/book, a woman claims at a certain point she is mitachondrial Eve, which would make her the grandmother of all living beings. Then it basically devolves into a horror story - mitachondrial 'Eve' goes around New York absorbing everything she comes in contact with - humans, animals, you name it - she triggers the mitochondria into releasing a burst of energy or whatever and that turns them into a grotesquely misshaped monster she can then absorb. This is the stuff that has these nutcases who follow the Glenn Kealey information all hyped up - they believe their DNA is 'better' than yours, and to prove it, you have to give Mr Kealey a thousand bucks or so so you'll get your place in his version of 'heaven'.  So this guy is mitachondrial Adam to Parasite Eve's 'mitachondrial Eve'.

No, I'm not kidding. The Outlaw forums is where these guys usually reside. And one of them - Matterik - has his own channel dedicated where he tries to prove 'Kealey's theories' - such as growing your hair as a spiritual antenna and whatnot. It would be funny if it weren't such a huge bloody waste of time that could be better spent actually talking to people about real issues and not looking like a nutcase, but I guess that's what COINTEL does to people.

It's too bad, because that guy - Matterik - was imparting some genuine information a year ago before he went totally nuts with this bull.

I had heard that Ghost in the Shell was based on Ghost in the Machine.  Did not know all the back history, thanks for the information. Doesn't surprise though based on the dialogue.  One the things I definitely took away from the Ghost in the Machine is be very careful what you plug your mind into.  The NWO spends alot of time and money looking for ways to control our thoughts and perceptions.  There iis definitely a War for your Mind!!
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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2009, 10:16:28 PM »

I was thinking of how this topic is picking at leafs in someone else's pool when their is half a sequoia in ours...

Ever heard of this now scrapped thing?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/17/national/main656181.shtml

Makes you wonder whats in TX water....
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