The left-right paradigm going strong in UK; Tories heading for landslide

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This 'belongs' to the above Daily Mail Article


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Labour MPs' future under review - BBC

Prime Minister Gordon Brown has vowed to take "all the action that is necessary" to discipline Labour MPs who have "misbehaved" over expenses.

A so-called Labour "star chamber" is to discuss whether MPs under fire for expenses claims can seek re-election.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8069720.stm

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Star Chamber - Return to Tyranny

The abuse of power through the Star Chamber is often credited to the drafting of the 5th Ammendment to the US Constitution

The Star Chamber was abused by the Crown and was a major causus belli of the English Civil War.


  • Court sessions held in Secret
  • No Juries
  • No Indictments
  • No Witnesses
  • No Right of Appeal

A Star Chamber would represent an illuminati dream to falsify evidence, hire and fire, the elected members of Parliament.

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Star Chamber - Return to Tyranny

The abuse of power through the Star Chamber is often credited to the drafting of the 5th Ammendment to the US Constitution

The Star Chamber was abused by the Crown and was a major causus belli of the English Civil War.


  • Court sessions held in Secret
  • No Juries
  • No Indictments
  • No Witnesses
  • No Right of Appeal

A Star Chamber would represent an illuminati dream to falsify evidence, hire and fire, the elected members of Parliament.


I have no idea what a star chamber is.

Is it really held in secret?

WTF!

Are these b*stards ever going to learn?

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Gordon Brown today pledged to consider the idea of a U.S.-style 'recall' law for MPs that would allow voters to oust them if they stepped out of line.

The Prime Minister appeared to back the concept, which has gained ground in the wake of the row over MPs' expenses.
The public are furious they cannot force out representatives who have lined their pockets with taxpayers' money until the next election.

Mr Brown opened the door to the idea as he indicated plans to give power back to the people will be unveiled within weeks.
He declared he would consider anything that makes the political elite more accountable to citizens.

'By recall, redress and better representations, all local people can have far more influence on local budgets and local decisions, from policing to schooling,' he said.


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Reading between the lines he  doesn't actually say anything constructive. Its just a prepared statement by the spin doctors.

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Hi Weegie1.
Fellow Scot here.  ;)


 hi Raffles  thats at least 2 scots awake, just over 4.5 million to go ;)

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hi Raffles  thats at least 2 scots awake, just over 4.5 million to go Wink

One more here ;D.
For who can endure a doctrine which would allow only dentists to say whether our teeth were aching, only cobblers to say whether our shoes hurt us, and only governments to tell us whether we were being well governed? C.S. Lewis

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"On every street there's a nobody who dreams of being somebody.
He's a lonely forgotten man desperate to prove that he's alive."

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So what do you think of the "Return of the Star Chamber" ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Chamber

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So what do you think of the "Return of the Star Chamber" ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Chamber

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"The court was set up to ensure the fair enforcement of laws against prominent people, those so powerful that ordinary courts could never convict them of their crimes."
What use is 'law', if there are those deemed to be above it?

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"Court sessions were held in secret, with no indictments, no right of appeal, no juries, and no witnesses."
Citizen Smith want's to SEE justice!

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So what do you think of the "Return of the Star Chamber" ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Chamber

Looks like their trying to bring back the divine right of Kings. They've already had an MP arrested and his office searched without a warrant. Parliament is almost becoming irrelevant in power with the EU dictating everything. Looks like they are going to purge dissenters with removal over the expenses scandal and destroy any sovereignty the Parliament had left. Now if any M.P. speaks up about anything they will find some stupid expenses problem and have him removed by the Star Chamber. Just speculating on this Star Chamber but if it is an extra judicial court then they will use it on anyone they don't like to have them removed.
For who can endure a doctrine which would allow only dentists to say whether our teeth were aching, only cobblers to say whether our shoes hurt us, and only governments to tell us whether we were being well governed? C.S. Lewis

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 Hello to all the Scots here its encouraging to know that thereís people waking up everywhere.

 Is it possible Iíve met some of you already? I was at William Rodriguezís talk at Glasgow University and Webster Tarpley in Edinburgh.

 Thanks for the link to the Glasgow group, Iím going to register and Iíll pass on the link to a few others.

  Slainte Mhath ;D


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So what do you think of the "Return of the Star Chamber" ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Chamber

Well it makes a switch from COBRA meetings.  :-[

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Julie Kirkbride's £50,000 extension for brother

The Conservative MP and wife of Andrew MacKay used taxpayers’ money to fund a £50,000 extension to her constituency flat so that her brother could live in the property and employed her sister as a part-time secretary.




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Star Chamber in British History

http://www.britainexpress.com/History/tudor/star-chamber.htm

Court sessions were held in secret, with no right of appeal, and punishment was swift and severe to any enemy of the crown.

Charles I used the Court of Star Chamber as a sort of Parliamentary substitute during the years 1628-40, when he refused to call Parliament.


http://www.britainexpress.com/History/tudor/star-chamber.htm

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8069720.stm

Labour MPs' future under review - BBC

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The so-called "star chamber", which met for the first time on Wednesday, said in a statement it was "gathering evidence from all parties concerned" and the party would "make a further announcement when it has come to its conclusions".


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The Choice for Labour - Times Editorial

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/leading_article/article6374927.ece

The Labour party is about to suffer a serious electoral defeat.
The Cabinet now has a big decision to make - whether or not to act


A week today the country goes to the polls for European and local elections that will almost certainly result in an historic drubbing for Gordon Brown's Labour Party.

The likelihood is that Labour will end up at best as loser and at worst as a laughing stock. The Prime Minister is already working on how he plans to respond. Mr Brown is said to be weighing his options for a Cabinet reshuffle, discussing plans for political reform and putting the finishing touches to a national plan in the hope that he can restart the conversation about economic recovery. But it is not the set of choices before the Prime Minister that will command the most attention in the wake of electoral disaster. The vital choice lies with his Cabinet colleagues. This, if they choose to seize it, is their moment.

The likes of John Denham and Jack Straw, David Miliband and James Purnell, John Hutton and Hazel Blears, Geoff Hoon and Alistair Darling must spend the next week asking themselves what they will do in the event of a shattering defeat. Mr Denham has grown tired of being promised funds that never materialise. Mr Miliband and Mr Purnell are exasperated at being regular victims of the self-harming tendencies of Downing Street briefings. Ms Blears has not been the only member of the Cabinet to have something to say about the Prime Minister's performance on YouTube. Mr Darling has made his frustration plain, in private at least, about being made to sell plans handed to him by his next-door neighbour. It is open to them to translate these private frustrations into public action. The fact is that Cabinet members have the power and, within a few days, the opportunity to change Labour's course and they now has to decide.

They could choose action. This would involve a Cabinet minister (or ministers) resigning, voicing in public the frustration with Mr Brown's leadership that is common currency among them. Senior resignations would trigger a leadership contest that, with the slightly mysterious emergence of Alan Johnson as the likely winner, would lead in short order to a general election.

The disadvantage of this course is that the electorate may punish a party that changed its leader for a second time in the course of a single Parliament. It may be that every potential assassin fears the charge of disloyalty. But the advantages suddenly look very marked. The Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP) would surely breathe a sigh of relief that a senior colleague had finally dared to say what they all say in the tea rooms of the House of Commons. David Cameron's domination of the news cycle would end abruptly as attention shifted to Labour with a new leader and one final shot at renewal.

Of course, Cabinet members may choose not to act. This would involve closing ranks around Mr Brown on the ground that economic recovery will provide a political dividend. This would mean making an honest judgment that, for themselves, for their colleagues in the PLP, for the reputation of the Labour Party and for the sake of good government, they truly believe that Mr Brown offers the best leadership. It is hard to believe, for anyone familiar with the mood of Cabinet and senior Labour advisers, that they think that Mr Brown can deliver the best possible result for the party at the general election.
 
The question is now whether any of them is prepared to act. For a long while they have steadfastly maintained, at least in public, that the cost of removing the Prime Minister from office was greater than the benefit. Perhaps the verdict of the electorate will steel one or more of them to speak the truth about power. But doing nothing is itself a choice. Either way, Labour's future is not just Mr Brown's but the Cabinet's collective responsibility.

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Fall!

FAAALLL!



Senior resignations would trigger a leadership contest that, with the slightly mysterious emergence of Alan Johnson as the likely winner, would lead in short order to a general election.

Ugh. Isn't this the creep who wants to pour fluoride into our water supply? They must be desperate.

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Hot Sexy False "Reform"

  • Introduction of Fixed Term Parliaments
  • Dramatic Reduction in the number of MPs.
  • Curb the Influence on British politics of European Union & Human Rights Law
  • Local Referendums to deliver 'people power'
  • Limit the use of the royal perogative, and allow MPs a Free Vote.
  • Allow MPs not the Whips Office, to elect select committee chairmen and members
  • "Right of initiative" for the public to create new laws

Some of these proposals are simply laughable, if the public was not so gullible. The specific  measure i have in mind is the one claiming to curb the influence of british politics and european union. What does this sound bite mean exactly ?

Does the "Right of Initiative" allow the big corps and N.M. Rothschilds a simpler and more direct route to introduce a bill into parliament. Perhaps it is intended to amplify the hegalian dialectical reaction of the public to bring in diabolical legislation in the wake of some false flag event ?

Other such as the dramatic reduction of MPs just means every punter will be less well represented, and the number of MPs required to be blackmailed and bribed will be bought to a more manageable number. Can this really be described as a reform ?




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MPs Kirkbride and Moran quit over expenses claims - Guardian

Tory MP Julie Kirkbride and Labour's Margaret Moran to stand down over expenses furore

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/may/28/julie-kirkbride-margaret-moran-mps-expenses

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The final straw :
Expenses MP Julie Kirkbride finally stands down after a blizzard of new revelations.
- Daily Mail


Labour MP also quits Tory MP Julie Kirkbride poses for her pricey portfolio, which cost the taxpayer £1,040 

 The Bromsgrove MP gave in as yet more revelations emerged about her use of public money. Labour's Margaret Moran also announced her resignation today.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1187671/MPs-EXPENSES-Julie-Kirkbride-finally-stands-series-new-revelations.html


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wait a minute, these are the guys who put in the POLICE STATE in our country where you can't photograph anyone who's suspected of being at one time a cop, it's a felon.

there's CCTV all over our streets
there's SPEED CAMERAS all over our roads
yes, we already have the NO SMILING policy in UK, I'm kinda surprised they don't already have this in USA

these guys, these theiving politicians (oh, let's call it 'system abusers' for political correctness), want you in shackles for ease of corporate regulation.

ten down, few hundred to go as far as I'm concerned.

hang that parliament, and let's understand why we're doing it - TO TAKE BACK OUR PLANET FROM THE NEW WORLD ORDER.

grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Just watched some of "Question Time" on BBC 1 (aka Pravada-en-GB)

I AM SO ANGRY

Nothing but sad attempts to smear UKIP as 'Racist', which considering they have non-white candidates is ridiculous.

The powers that be seem terrified that the people will not vote for the false Red v Blue pardim.
They seemed determined to label any party outside that model as 'extremist'.

Well I am extremely angry !!!

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Just watched some of "Question Time" on BBC 1 (aka Pravada-en-GB)

I AM SO ANGRY

Nothing but sad attempts to smear UKIP as 'Racist', which considering they have non-white candidates is ridiculous.

The powers that be seem terrified that the people will not vote for the false Red v Blue pardim.
They seemed determined to label any party outside that model as 'extremist'.

Well I am extremely angry !!!


It's the BBC.
It's 'controlled media'.

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There are of course answers besides UKIP



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It's the BBC.
It's 'controlled media'.

Yup

Chaired by David Dimbleby --> Google him with Bullingdon Club (CLICK HERE)

By the way, Cecil Rhodes was a member of this exclusive club . . . .
As Quigley put it, the Brits dont go in for the 'mumbo jumbo', but they are all part of "The Order"

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Another Solution


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Just watched some of "Question Time" on BBC 1 (aka Pravada-en-GB)

I AM SO ANGRY

Nothing but sad attempts to smear UKIP as 'Racist', which considering they have non-white candidates is ridiculous.

The powers that be seem terrified that the people will not vote for the false Red v Blue pardim.
They seemed determined to label any party outside that model as 'extremist'.

Well I am extremely angry !!!


Man, I hate this scum. Words cannot describe how happy I'll be to watch hundreds of these pieces of filth lose their cushy jobs next year. I hope to see tears.



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Elliot Morley expected to be 13th MP to step down

 Elliot Morley, the former environment minister, is expected to become the 13th MP to step down in the wake of the expenses scandal.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5405492/MPs-expenses-Elliot-Morley-expected-to-be-13th-MP-to-step-down.html


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Hazel Blears should be thrown out of Cabinet, says Roy Hattersley

Hazel Blears and other ministers who avoided paying tax should be thrown out of the Cabinet,
 Roy Hattersley, the former deputy leader of the Labour Party, said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5403069/MPs-expenses-Hazel-Blears-should-be-thrown-out-of-Cabinet-says-Roy-Hattersley.html


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Ha! I was browsing Guido's blog and noticed a couple of familiar names in the UK political net rankings...

Latest Online Data Shows BNP Not Top
http://www.order-order.com/2009/05/latest-data-on-online-popularity-bnp-not-top/

http://www.order-order.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/hitwise-big.jpg


And on a slightly more on-topic note, I thought this was quite tasteful myself... ;D

Handy Anti-Politics Poster to Display on Lamp Posts
http://www.order-order.com/2009/05/handy-anti-politics-poster-to-display-on-lamp-posts/

EvadingGrid

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Ha! I was browsing Guido's blog and noticed a couple of familiar names in the UK political net rankings...

Latest Online Data Shows BNP Not Top
http://www.order-order.com/2009/05/latest-data-on-online-popularity-bnp-not-top/

http://www.order-order.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/hitwise-big.jpg


And on a slightly more on-topic note, I thought this was quite tasteful myself... ;D

Handy Anti-Politics Poster to Display on Lamp Posts
http://www.order-order.com/2009/05/handy-anti-politics-poster-to-display-on-lamp-posts/

"we are most amused"


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An intersting choice for the June elections:

http://no2eu.com/index.html
"On every street there's a nobody who dreams of being somebody.
He's a lonely forgotten man desperate to prove that he's alive."

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An intersting choice for the June elections:

http://no2eu.com/index.html

Looks to me Designed to fracture the UKIP vote.





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Could be right, but if they wanna stop Europe they're worth a look....
"On every street there's a nobody who dreams of being somebody.
He's a lonely forgotten man desperate to prove that he's alive."