Disinfo blog claims daniel estulin was a participant to bilderberg 2009

[stangrof]

i was unable to confirm it with other sources and i don't want to go to quick and unfair conclusion; It is, however strange, they might try to buy him up, i don't know
her is the list so far
1- Robert Zoellick, président de la Banque Mondiale( world bank )
2- Tim Geithner, Secrétaire au Trésor des Etats-Unis
3- Jo Ackermann, patron de la Deutsche Bank
4- Jean-Claude Trichet, président de la Banque Centrale Européenne (boss of european central bank)
5- Miguel Ángel Moratinos, ministre espagnol des Affaires Etrangères ( spain, foreign minister)
6- Richard Holbrooke, envoyé spécial des Etats-Unis pour l’Afghanistan et le Pakistan
7- Jose Manuel Barroso, président de la Commission Européenne boss of the E U
8- La reine Sophie d’Espagne (sophie, queen of spain )
9- La reine Beatrix des Pays-Bas ( queen of netherlands )
10- Carl Bildt, ministre suédois des Affaires Etrangères ( sweden foreign minister)
11- Daniel Estulin, journaliste espagnol spanish journalist
12- Dora Bakoyannis, ministre grecque des Affaires Etrangères ( greece foreign minister )
13- Larry Summers, directeur du National Economic Council des Etats-Unis.

i am sorry , it is in french
http://bellaciao.org/fr/spip.php?article85915

[EvadingGrid]

Odd

One wonders if some one is trying to destroy his reputation.
On the other hand we know he has been put under a lot of pressure this past year.

[stangrof]

Odd

One wonders if some one is trying to destroy his reputation.
On the other hand we know he has been put under a lot of pressure this past year.

estulin is completly unknown in france, his book has not been translated so far in french so i don't see why that site would smear him but with those big boys, you never know where the hit comes from!

[Satyagraha]

This smells like a hit job on Estulin. It makes it more 'credible' that it was published in France. (GASP! It MUST be true - those French guys don't know about Estulin!!!)

When US-based British agents were trying to get the US into the 2nd world war, they published disinfo in foreign publications that would be filtered back to the US as 'evidence'. Old technique. Too bad people might believe this.

[Mike Philbin]

in the INFOWAR remember, there is a war on for your mind.



personally, I can't see how Daniel Estulin being invited can HELP the Bilderbergs...

[Jackson Holly]

Very odd, indeed. Jim Tucker did seem surprised that Estulin was not there (on the ground).

Also, let's not forget how the Rockefeller's tried to enlist Aaron Russo.

I don't know what to make of it ... let's hope it is a bogus report.

[Mike Philbin]

Daniel Estulin's not on the official leaked list (surprisingly)

http://www.wacholland.org/en/news/bilderberg-2009-attendee-list

[Djævlen]

I thought that Alex said the Estulin was laying low (or getting out completely) with regards to Bilderberg because he had so many death threats against him and his family.

[mr anderson]

Very odd, indeed. Jim Tucker did seem surprised that Estulin was not there (on the ground).

Also, let's not forget how the Rockefeller's tried to enlist Aaron Russo.

I don't know what to make of it ... let's hope it is a bogus report.

He didn't make it to Chantilly, Virginia either and he said that he and his family received death threats and the main priority whilst still working on Bilderberg from Spain was his family.

[EvadingGrid]

Dis-Info - IMHO

[Mr Grinch]

Thats total disinfo, unsourced blog from what appears to be a socialist leaning site. (I cant read/understand much french)

[Parentsfortruth]

He was just on the Corbitt report about this year's Bilderberg conference. I'm sure this site is disinfo. His exposé is not helping Bilderberg, and I'm sure he wouldn't be invited by them.

[stangrof]

As it is the only site giving his name, it must be a mistake or worse, i sent them an email asking for explanations and sources. Wait and see.

[stangrof]

They published a new and complete list today and estulin doesn't appear anymore. I guess it was a mistake . If it was a dirty trick, it is busted anyway, i am still waiting an answer to my email.
http://bellaciao.org/fr/spip.php?article86031

[Jackson Holly]

Stangrof:

Excellent work, following up on this ...

[darsie]

Jack Blood interviewed Daniel Estulin last week and he reiterated that he wouldn't be attending this year's Bilderberg meeting. Mentioned that he relies for information on two inside sources.

[EvadingGrid]

Dis-Info - IMHO

Not changed my mind
 

[Q]

I find it inconceivable that these "sources" are able to contact Estulin or Tucker without the full knowledge of NSA/GCHQ and the rest. This is controlled release of information - like all these "declassified" documents.

Why? Maybe they're telling us that what they say will happen, happens..to condition people that that's how it goes and it's pointless to resist..I don't know why actually.

What I do know is that these leaks are deliberate and it's ridiculous to claim otherwise.

[Bastet777]

I find this all a bit suspecious. Why would a French site want to discredit Estulin? Makes little sense. What I do know is that Estulin calls Prisonplanet.com "crazies" at the very end of this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW8DCYn1OoY

Maybe they got to him. Stranger things have happened.

[Bastet777]

in the INFOWAR remember, there is a war on for your mind.



personally, I can't see how Daniel Estulin being invited can HELP the Bilderbergs...

This may be one damn good reason why

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=107348.0

[Bastet777]

estulin is completly unknown in france, his book has not been translated so far in french so i don't see why that site would smear him but with those big boys, you never know where the hit comes from!

Actually,. the book has been translated in 48 languages and French is among them.

[Satyagraha]

I find this all a bit suspecious. Why would a French site want to discredit Estulin? Makes little sense. What I do know is that Estulin calls Prisonplanet.com "crazies" at the very end of this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW8DCYn1OoY

Maybe they got to him. Stranger things have happened.

Maybe he has a contractural obligation to 'distance' himself from PP to keep Halcyon revenues up...? Selling out?

[Bastet777]

Maybe he has a contractural obligation to 'distance' himself from PP to keep Halcyon revenues up...? Selling out?

That's one possibility. I think we should look into Halcyon further for any odd connections . Another possibility is that his family could have been threatened and 'they' have demanded that PP be debunked in some way. I find it hard to imagine his book actually being made into a film. Far too dangerous to their agenda it would seem. I would be love to see the end result of that because if it's anything like the book, doubt they will let it get produced. Unless of course, they change the plot to suit their own needs. The timing of it all is suspect. Bilderberg meeting, distancing from AJ and now a film....

It would be truly sad if it turned out that he somehow betrayed us. I have been listening to recent/past interviews he did with Alex and Alex really seem to like and trust him as did I.
 

[stangrof]

Actually,. the book has been translated in 48 languages and French is among them.

Yes, i checked it, i was wrong. I must say that there is a french book on bilderberg ( Faits et chroniques interdits au public : les secrets de Bilderberg), written in 2004 by Pierre de Villemarest ( http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_de_Villemarest#Ouvrages ), that author was a french resistant in WW2 then became a member of counter intelligence. He realised that "the cold war" was fake, resigned and start digging in the "underworld", he wrote a lot of books and articles. He died last year.So i must admit that when i listen to mr Estulin, i am not really impressed.
For those who understand french here is an interview on video of him
http://www.ipernity.com/doc/stangrof/4896865/

[mr anderson]

Maybe he has a contractural obligation to 'distance' himself from PP to keep Halcyon revenues up...? Selling out?

Or he was referring to the tools on this forum who have knee-jerk reactions within minutes of anything being posted.

READ: http://www.prweb.com/releases/Bilderberg_Group_Meeting/Daniel_Estulin/prweb2453144.htm

...Using a purported participant list, a "smear" campaign has seemingly been launched against Estulin. On a French "left-wing" website (www.bellaciao.org/fr/), and then posted in English on a populist forum in the US http://forum.prisonplanet.com), it is claimed that Estulin was a known participant in this year's conference. "Hardly," said Estulin, who laughed at the prospect, saying that the Group has tried many things to keep him from reporting on its activities, but had never asked him to attend.

So he was referring to the forum and not Prisonplanet.com the alternative news websites.

He was referring to parrots on this forum who regurgitate this cointelpro bullshit within minutes of hearing it.

JUST like the fake George Noory fight they tried to start between him & Alex Jones.

I'll share a saying with you, you cointelpro pricks and parrots..'Harden the f**k up'.

[EvadingGrid]

Or he was referring to the tools on this forum who have knee-jerk reactions within minutes of anything being posted.

READ: http://www.prweb.com/releases/Bilderberg_Group_Meeting/Daniel_Estulin/prweb2453144.htm

So he was referring to the forum and not Prisonplanet.com the alternative news websites.

He was referring to parrots on this forum who regurgitate this cointelpro bullshit within minutes of hearing it.

JUST like the fake George Noory fight they tried to start between him & Alex Jones.

I'll share a saying with you, you cointelpro pricks and parrots..'Harden the f**k up'.

Well said

I vote a few Troll - 'Kick and Ban' - Warnings - are issued.

[Mike Philbin]

we all know who the trolls are so let's do it

 

[Bastet777]

Or he was referring to the tools on this forum who have knee-jerk reactions within minutes of anything being posted.

READ: http://www.prweb.com/releases/Bilderberg_Group_Meeting/Daniel_Estulin/prweb2453144.htm

So he was referring to the forum and not Prisonplanet.com the alternative news websites.

He was referring to parrots on this forum who regurgitate this cointelpro bullshit within minutes of hearing it.

Look Slave,

Don't you dare judge those of us that rather than blindly accepting anything that is dished out to us, hook, line and sinker, rather than investigate the matter further and get to the truth. Your the one with the "knee-jerk reaction". So sorry, if this doesen't jive well with your naive rose-tinted perception of the world. Not all of us choose to blindly accept everything. Not all of us chose to remain ignorant. Noone is sacred here and we should not accept blindly what ever someone tells us, Alex Jones included. Look, I am just as much a fan of Estulin as the next person, does not mean I am not peeved by his egomaniacal remark on this video that does nothing but be a diservice to the truth movement. So "counterpro" or what have you, ahh, that would be you. For trying to stifle our freedom of speech here on this, last time I checked, free forum. Could it be your a NWO shill?  See how stupid that sounds...

[Bastet777]

we all know who the trolls are so let's do it

 

Wow,

Rise of the Fourth Reich indeed!! Does not matter a fig what you think. Ban me if you like, it only matters what AJ thinks.

[Bastet777]

Or he was referring to the tools on this forum who have knee-jerk reactions within minutes of anything being posted.

READ: http://www.prweb.com/releases/Bilderberg_Group_Meeting/Daniel_Estulin/prweb2453144.htm

So he was referring to the forum and not Prisonplanet.com the alternative news websites.

He was referring to parrots on this forum who regurgitate this cointelpro bullshit within minutes of hearing it.

JUST like the fake George Noory fight they tried to start between him & Alex Jones.

I'll share a saying with you, you cointelpro pricks and parrots..'Harden the f**k up'.

Where in this report does it state that he was referring to prisonplanet forum? YOu are making this up! He said prisonplanet were "Crazies", he did not say "prosonplanet forum", anyway you slice it, it's f**ked up. Sorry dude, truth is a bitch.

[Bastet777]

 I just got through listening to Estulin on Alex Jones today. Terribly convienient timing.. I imagine that AJ called him to the show particulary due to this contrevorsy, to clear it up or air it out. Or he could have contacted AJ, not sure. It is obvious the two were referring to this particular post in their discussion today. And so Estulin gives this as the reason he called prisonplanet crazies. Again, convienent.
Here is my final analysis of this issue if anyone cares: It is most likely that Estulin's slip of the tongue on that British Video was a result of ego and nothing more. It is doubtful he has sold out to them. However, having said that one must understand why anyone can be suspect  because if you study the history of the Illuminati,. they were major decievers and infiltrators. Often posing as exactally what they were against, such as Jesuits or Priests. ( whom they despised, they were Rationalists afterall.)They infiltrated the Freemasons to suit their own ends. They were genius of deception. All of us put up walls of denial when we are attacked with unsavoury truths. So AJ could be doing this now to excuse Estulin of his tongue slip, and is telling himself that instead he" plugged " prisonplanet. I love you ALex but I cannot be certain this is the case, please always keep your guard up. We all need to work together I realize and Estulin has done invaluable investigative work on the subject of the Bilderberg. Myself, personally, I am not trying to forment a divide between AJ and Estulin. I cannot speak for anyone else.  We need all the people we can get to fight these tyrannts. It's just that I am skeptical of everything and everybody. I have studied this issue for 20+ years and the result is that I have learned, more often than not, truth is stranger than fiction, esp. where Bilderberg, Illuminati etc. are involved. I am a newbie here and I am sorry if I have offended anyone, lest of all AJ. I highly respect him and his work. My "kneejerk" reaction and perhaps that of others was out of loyalty, not malice.

[mr anderson]

Where in this report does it state that he was referring to prisonplanet forum? YOu are making this up! He said prisonplanet were "Crazies", he did not say "prosonplanet forum", anyway you slice it, it's f**ked up. Sorry dude, truth is a bitch.

Where in this report does is state he was referring to Alex Jones, Kurt Nimmo, Paul Watson, Jason Bermas, Aaron Dykes?

And not referring to the Prisonplanet.com comment section or Prisonplanet forum?

YOUR making this up. Parrot.

[Bastet777]

Where in this report does is state he was referring to Alex Jones, Kurt Nimmo, Paul Watson, Jason Bermas, Aaron Dykes?

And not referring to the Prisonplanet.com comment section or Prisonplanet forum?

YOUR making this up. Parrot.

And what if I told you that I have information that may prove otherwise?

[mr anderson]

And what if I told you that I have information that may prove otherwise?

Lmao...

Do share it with us Sherlock.

Although Alex said he won't care for people trying to start a fight between them because he knows Daniel and the work he's done.

[mr anderson]

And what if I told you that I have information that may prove otherwise?

Lmao...

Do share it with us Sherlock.

Although Alex said he won't care for people trying to start a fight between them because he knows Daniel and the work he's done.

When your ready of course..

[Mike Philbin]

edge of my f**king seat*

*not

[Bastet777]

edge of my f**king seat*

*not

Nevermind. Your all right. Estulin walks on water.

[Mike Philbin]

edge of my seat means, show the f**king info you promised. Pliease.

[Bastet777]

edge of my seat means, show the f**king info you promised. Pliease.

I am reluctant to get involved further since I may be accused of being a countel-intell, divide and conquer shill. It's just that I have recieved some personal emails from Estulin and he is mad at AJ and says all kinds of BS about him, like that he thinks is bullcrap that he was used in the Obama Deception without his permission, etc. etc.. Then he goes on his show yesterday plugging his book and movie and acting like all is just fine.(and in my opionion acted like a bit of a pompous ass.) I just don't trust two-faced people. Sorry. But honestly, this is between Alex and Daniel. I just tend to feel protective of Alex that is all. But in the end, guess it's really none of my buisness. Hope the two works things out. We sure as hell need a great mind like Estulin on our side. The fight against these NWO people is so colossal. Just hope this is still the case. I'
m sure it is and all this pettiness will blow over. Just hope Estulin does not let his ego get the best of him with his "hollywood people" and all. Success can breally change people and not always for the best.

[Bastet777]

edge of my seat means, show the f**king info you promised. Pliease.

Also, I am concerned as hell at what Hollywood will make out of the Estulin book. You know there are NWO people in some of the major studios. (Don't know specifically about Halcyon.) They may dilute and dumb down the subject and flat out make it all seem like some complete farce in the end,like they did with Angels and Demons. (ya, Illuminati are just a fabrication of some renegade Priests minds.) This will set us back years and make a mockery out of anyone seeking the truth about these motherf...ckers. And the "action figures" won't help. No way Jose will they let a movie out about the Bilderbergs unfiltered. Trust me, I am an actress myself, I am part of this world and with few exceptions the big boys are often on 'their' side or one of 'them'.