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« on: May 15, 2009, 09:39:21 PM »

Ok, now lets see how much this forum supports free speech...

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A summary of the censorship in the alternative media. Thank you Rob Kall, for supporting free expression and for giving me a platform for my articles.

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Fear and Censorship Rampant In "Patriot" Community
By Martin Hill
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"He that sees another in error, and endeavors not to correct it, testifies himself to be in error" -Pope St. Leo I

Let me preface this by saying that I have never been obsessed or fixated on 'zionist' or "Jews vs. Arab" topic, as so many seem to be today. I was not concerned with Jews or zionists, or muslims, and had never even met a Jew until I was probably in my 20's. I was raised in an upper middle class Catholic home in Southern California. The topic is an interesting one, though, particularly regarding people's fear of touching the subject. I am all for free discussion of any topic. Nothing should be verboten. The recent response to a topic I helped create has been fascinating to say the least.

I am very much against threatening anyone for their speech. This applies to neocons, leftists, 'patriots', or anyone else. Keep in mind I was instrumental in getting coverage on the Michael Reagan issue, when he threatened 9/11 truther Mark Dice on the radio. I even called Reagan up personally and we discussed it, and I told him he was wrong. That as well as many other aspects of this were covered on Clearchannel's KFI Los Angeles, Infowars, PrisonPlanet, etc. Here is the index page of some of that coverage. http://libertyfight.741.com/DiceHandelIndex.html

Now onto the current controversy. It all started last month when I was listening to the INFOWARS stream via my cell phone, and caught a very disturbing exchange between Jason Bermas and a caller. I wrote an article about it on Op-Ed News a few days later entitled 'InfoWarrior' Jason Bermas: Jew Critics Are 'Anti-Semites' Who Should Hang Or Electrocute Themselves (4-19-09)
I also posted the audio of the call on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y3DkO1VX4g

I also posted it on Michael A. Nystrom's website DailyPaul.com, which is a popular site for Ron Paul supporters. After the topic garnered 3 pages of replies from members, the daily paul froze the topic, preventing anyone from responding further, thus pushing it off the front page, off the website and down the memory hole. See: 'InfoWarrior' Jason Bermas: Jew Critics Are 'Anti-Semites' Who Should Hang Or Electrocute Themselves  http://www.dailypaul.com/node/90298?page=2

A few days later Bermas and Jones replied about my op-ed piece and youtube vid. Here is their response, Bermas and Alex Jones Respond To the Jewish Controversy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgiH2BkwdX4 part 1
and part 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx2PMWmy3SI

 Jones and Bermas also responded to the original caller himself when he called in. Their response to the caller seemed nearly as innapropriate as Bermas's first response, and seemed to make the situation worse. I posted the article about their response, as well as the vid, on Op-Ed News: Bermas & Alex Jones Respond To The Jewish Controversy on April 23, 2009. http://www.opednews.com/populum/diarypage.php?did=12996

Since the original topic had generated so much interest, I also posted the follow up on the Daily Paul only to have it immediately removed. I was also immediately permanenently banned from the DailyPaul.com without reason. I guess Nystrom, the owner of the Ron Paul adulation site does not support free expression and intellectual discussion any more than Bermas does.

The owner ot Op-Ed News, however, Rob Kall, ( http://www.opednews.com/author/diary/author2.html ) who I believe is Jewish, did not remove my articles. Mr. Kall should be commended for giving people the opportunity to publish and discuss articles. He obviously is nothing like the paranoid politically-correct control freaks that abound everywhere else on the net, even in the purported 'patriot community'.

Mike Rivero of WhatReallyHappened.com has posted at least two of my videos that I know of, including Rest in Peace Pete Nosan. ( http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/rest-peace-pete-nosan )Pete was a friend of mine and a tax freedom advocate who served as Restore the Republic CA Chapter leader. He tragically killed himself last year after the IRS came to his job and threatened him). Here is the cache from his site,( http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:EKzHGtwhdFUJ:whatreallyhappened.com/content/rest-peace-pete-nosan+rest+in+peace+pete+nosan&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us ) in case Rivero denies or erases it.

I have included Rivero on my mailing list for some time. Granted, he did not ask to be on my list, but as a popular alternative site who lists his contact info and published my material, I assumed he wanted to recieve the occasional articles/ vids that I send out. A few weeks ago Rivero posted my video interview ( http://whatreallyhappened.com/category/911  ) of a Muslim USMC Vet Fired From Job For 9/11 Truth Sign. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xMCAURzKuk ) However, after I sent Rivero the article and videos from Bermas & Alex Jones Respond To The Jewish Controversy, ( http://www.opednews.com/populum/diarypage.php?did=12996 ) all further e-mails I sent to him have been returned. He apparently blocked me from all further contact; which is certainly his perogative, but is very revealing. Did daring to mention the "J word" cause him to block me? Apparently.

Meanwhile, on the other end of the spectrum, and I almost hate the give this guy publicity, but someone named Eric Hufschmid scoured my website, and posted photos of me and my teeth on his website, alleging I am a 'zionist protector' "jew" "dog" "neanderthal", simply because I link to some Alex Jones material on my website. ( http://erichufschmid.net/Veteran-terrorists.html ) He claims Jews have a gap between their teeth. For the record I had braces in high school and the gap was completely closed, but it came back when I stopped wearing the retainer. Go figure. By the way, I am half Italian, as well as English/German/Dutch and a lifelong Catholic.

Someone posted the topic at the Prisonplanet.com forum, and so far, to their credit, they have allowed the topic and discussion to remain. Whoops! As I write this, I just clicked on the topic and see that it has now also been removed. Here is the google cache of that topic: Jason Bermas: Jew Critics Should Hang themselves ( http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:-pSaogL9wWQJ:forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php%3Ftopic%3D104796.400+jason+bermas+jew+critics+should+hang+themselves&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us ) Prisonplanet forum member 'Protean' started that thread which had hundreds of replies, going on for at least 11 pages. I do not know if Protean has been banned from the site. The original url of that topic was forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=104796.400 - 98k [google search] http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=active&q=jason+bermas+jew+critics+should+hang+themselves

Jeff Rense, ( http://rense.com/ ) who recently had a fallout with Alex Jones ( http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=active&q=Jeff+rense+alex+jones ) and was removed from GCN, linked to the original youtube video a few days ago. It had had about 2300 views before Rense linked to it, and now has 17,714 views and 634 comments.

The same day Rense posted the original video, a Texe Marrs article entitled Do The Jews Own Hollywood And The Media?, ( http://www.rense.com/general85/ownh.htm )(5-9-9) which was critical of Bermas' response without naming him, was posted on Rense.com.
Here are some videos of Texe Marrs with Jason Burmas 2009-03-05 pt 5/5  ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8duX5rrJmKk )and here.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8cyjvDWby4&feature=related   I heard that Texe Marrs discussed this Bermas fiasco on his radio show, but I haven't heard it. ALex Jones has invited Texe Marrs onto his show as a guest for years, as well as selling his books and videos on Infowars; so it would be interesting to hear them discuss this entire issue candidly. Cudos to Texe Marrs for having the guts to address this issue.

There is also a youtube clip here, entitled Jason Bermas & Alex Jones called out as Zionist Shills described as an: "Excerpt from RBN Radio with Michael Collins Piper and Guest: Mark Glenn. Two callers expose Jason Bermas & Alex Jones as the Zionist Shills that they are, and talk about the recent controversy with Bermas telling a caller on his show, who brings up Jewish influence on the media, to kill himself." I have not heard that clip yet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEqMu3UeVwM

And that is all, for now. The fallout from this fiasco seems to have grown far and wide. I stick to my original response, which was that the comments were grossly innapropriate and out of line, especially from Alex Jones websites, which purport to come from a Christian and freedom-loving perspective. Christians and patriots do not threaten or advocate the death, murder of suicide of anyone. it really is as simple as that.

May peace be with you all.

"When they sin, rebuke them in the presence of all that the rest also may have fear" 1 Timothy 5:20

"Without me you can do nothing" John 15:5

 
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2009, 09:54:30 PM »

OHHH THIS AGAIN?

sigh,,,

totaly rick rolled with the thread title,,heh  got me,,thnx
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2009, 10:00:18 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2009, 10:01:15 PM »

WTF does this have to do with this message board?

 Huh
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2009, 10:05:18 PM »

WTF does this have to do with this message board?

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hey monkeypox,,this thread and your name made me think of something


las vegas churches accept gambling chips,,chips are taken to casinos of origin and cashed in,,,this is done by chip monks

religion,,and your name,,haha

im feelin a lil dizzy right now,,think its time for me to stop the posting for the night
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2009, 10:09:17 PM »

OHHH THIS AGAIN?

sigh,,,

totaly rick rolled with the thread title,,heh  got me,,thnx

Well it seems like many of you are still missing the point and this does a good job explaining the whole story in it's entirety.

So let me see...you read all of this and you still think Bermas was right to censor and ask people to electrocute themselves? Calling for population control of those who point out the obvious?

There have been a plethora of radio hosts who have exposed Jason for his censorship and hatefulness. There have been a plethora who have proved that the Jews control the media. Jason the coward still has not responded, nor has he offered an apology.

People like this cannot be trusted. And I feel sorry for people who still support him for they truly cannot think and quite frankly its downright scary.

I think they call it LEMMINGS DISEASE
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2009, 10:14:36 PM »

hey monkeypox,,this thread and your name made me think of something


las vegas churches accept gambling chips,,chips are taken to casinos of origin and cashed in,,,this is done by chip monks

religion,,and your name,,haha

im feelin a lil dizzy right now,,think its time for me to stop the posting for the night


Crack is whack, man.

 Grin
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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2009, 10:16:51 PM »

Crack is whack, man.

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Wow, now there's a rebuttal. I'm stumped.

ROFL
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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2009, 10:17:14 PM »

Crack is whack, man.

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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2009, 10:19:32 PM »

Wow, now there's a rebuttal. I'm stumped.

ROFL

Uh, it wasn't a "rebuttal", and it wasn't directed at you.

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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2009, 10:21:11 PM »


Someone posted the topic at the Prisonplanet.com forum, and so far, to their credit, they have allowed the topic and discussion to remain. Whoops! As I write this, I just clicked on the topic and see that it has now also been removed. Here is the google cache of that topic: Jason Bermas: Jew Critics Should Hang themselves ( http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:-pSaogL9wWQJ:forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php%3Ftopic%3D104796.400+jason+bermas+jew+critics+should+hang+themselves&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us ) Prisonplanet forum member 'Protean' started that thread which had hundreds of replies, going on for at least 11 pages. I do not know if Protean has been banned from the site. The original url of that topic was forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=104796.400 - 98k [google search] http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=active&q=jason+bermas+jew+critics+should+hang+themselves


You mean this thread? It's still here - just moved.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=26252.msg633118#msg633118

And yeah, I even double check things here.. Guess I'm pretty cynical anymore.
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2009, 10:25:42 PM »

Uh, it wasn't a "rebuttal", and it wasn't directed at you.

 Roll Eyes

Well I consider this serious. There was a previous thread and it was lumped under Faux Controversies/UFOs...calling for people to kill themselves and population control just for stating that Jews control the media is very wrong. Jason is using intimidation, censorship and violent tactics to suppress people from telling the truth. He obviously can only handle so much truth and he suppresses this truth. Now tell me, what is so faux about that? Or what makes this a problem with this forum? Are people just supposed to accept this laying down? Well not me bub.
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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2009, 10:27:26 PM »

ahh,,my post was more to point out that i really didnt care,,and i was tricked into clicking the link

but truth be told to me it really doesnt matter who controls the media,,yellow orange black pink purple,,its their agenda that concerns me,,this is a pissing contest over vocabulary words ie,,jew vs zionist or whatever and i could really give a rats ass,,i quit worrying about vocabulary years ago

and again as for the caller its been stated bout a million times that the call was cut ,,well ,,on one occasion anyway,,soo,,


yeah,,i would agree,,racists should go hang their selves. and i think if you put it in context thats basically what he was saying

But i may be wrong,,i have been before
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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2009, 10:28:37 PM »

You mean this thread? It's still here - just moved.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=26252.msg633118#msg633118

And yeah, I even double check things here.. Guess I'm pretty cynical anymore.

Yes and I see you left this little part out and that is what the admin's changed the title too, or rather what the lumped it under:

Topic: I am not an anti-semite, I just blame jews for everything (Title Modified)

So the truth is just a bit much for this forum? Or was it the free speech and the truth? I'm really confused here...
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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2009, 10:30:20 PM »

ahh,,my post was more to point out that i really didnt care,,and i was tricked into clicking the link

but truth be told to me it really doesnt matter who controls the media,,yellow orange black pink purple,,its their agenda that concerns me,,this is a pissing contest over vocabulary words ie,,jew vs zionist or whatever and i could really give a rats ass,,i quit worrying about vocabulary years ago

and again as for the caller its been stated bout a million times that the call was cut ,,well ,,on one occasion anyway,,soo,,


yeah,,i would agree,,racists should go hang their selves. and i think if you put it in context thats basically what he was saying

But i may be wrong,,i have been before
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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2009, 10:31:33 PM »

Yes and I see you left this little part out and that is what the admin's changed the title too, or rather what the lumped it under:

Topic: I am not an anti-semite, I just blame jews for everything (Title Modified)

So the truth is just a bit much for this forum? Or was it the free speech and the truth? I'm really confused here...


No I didn't leave anything out intentionally. I'm not taking a side - but on that page, the title is the same as in the cache on Google, but it was different at first yes. But I can change the title when I reply... like in this message. So I dunno..
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« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2009, 10:31:51 PM »

ahh,,my post was more to point out that i really didnt care,,and i was tricked into clicking the link

but truth be told to me it really doesnt matter who controls the media,,yellow orange black pink purple,,its their agenda that concerns me,,this is a pissing contest over vocabulary words ie,,jew vs zionist or whatever and i could really give a rats ass,,i quit worrying about vocabulary years ago

and again as for the caller its been stated bout a million times that the call was cut ,,well ,,on one occasion anyway,,soo,,


yeah,,i would agree,,racists should go hang their selves. and i think if you put it in context thats basically what he was saying

But i may be wrong,,i have been before

wow, racists should hang themselves...and do you support the population control part? I would be willing to bet that most people have  little bit of racism in them...so that means you would support population control on a very large scale I presume? Do you support the so-called hate crimes bill too? I'm just wondering what kind of people I'm dealing with here.

I don't like racism but I sure don't think they should hang themselves-everyone can be cured or just plain grow up.
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« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2009, 10:35:11 PM »

This dead horse is being whipped yet again.

So are you really ready for truth?

Rehashing this J-word issue is boring now.  You got your point across.  The rebuke is noted.  Are you going to let this one issue derail you from the movement?  Or are you trying to derail the movement with the constant harping of this issue?  What is your aim?  Are you looking for an apology?  Why?  There has much ranting already and tons of writings about it.  Pat yourself on the back for making the point and getting 1000+ views!  Now kindly move on, we have other things to do.  That big ole article you posted, proved false, you were not censored, you were just censured.
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« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2009, 10:35:43 PM »

wow, racists should hang themselves...and do you support the population control part? I would be willing to bet that most people have  little bit of racism in them...so that means you would support population control on a very large scale I presume? Do you support the so-called hate crimes bill too? I'm just wondering what kind of people I'm dealing with here.
If you're racist, and willing to harm others because of their race... yes, you can hang yourself and I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. The hate crime bill I do not agree with. I do not support population control on any scale. Quit being a little whiny kid and MAN UP. Put on your big boy pants already!
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« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2009, 10:38:04 PM »

wow, racists should hang themselves...and do you support the population control part? I would be willing to bet that most people have  little bit of racism in them...so that means you would support population control on a very large scale I presume? Do you support the so-called hate crimes bill too? I'm just wondering what kind of people I'm dealing with here.

I don't like racism but I sure don't think they should hang themselves-everyone can be cured or just plain grow up.

You really like stirring the shit, don't you?
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« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2009, 10:41:39 PM »

OMG, that has to be the record post?  WOW.  It would take me a week or more to go through all that.

lol, checked Protean's posts for that time/date that was on the google cache posted. No - didn't read that far Smiley No way I got time to read everything here - not even close.
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« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2009, 10:42:13 PM »

This dead horse is being whipped yet again.

So are you really ready for truth?

Rehashing this J-word issue is boring now.  You got your point across.  The rebuke is noted.  Are you going to let this one issue derail you from the movement?  Or are you trying to derail the movement with the constant harping of this issue?  What is your aim?  Are you looking for an apology?  Why?  There has much ranting already and tons of writings about it.  Pat yourself on the back for making the point and getting 1000+ views!  Now kindly move on, we have other things to do.  That big ole article you posted, proved false, you were not censored, you were just censured.

Here is my issue: the post should not have been moved. Period. Jason proved to me that he is a hater himself and that he is only interested in so much truth. I find that to be common these days. My other main issue is that NO ONE person or race is immune to be exposed if they set out to do evil. That's it. Bottom line. And what do I see? I see all this resistance to anything Jewish/Zionist and i say let go of the old canards and let the info ride if it's legitimate. Follow the truth. Connect the dots. Follow the money to the top no matter who it is that you discover along the way, no matter what race or creed-go with it.
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« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2009, 10:46:22 PM »

Here is my issue: the post should not have been moved. Period.

The Mods move posts all the time if they feel there is a more appropriate place for them.  I've had a ton of mine moved.  So what?  Why are you getting so upset about it?
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« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2009, 10:46:50 PM »

Here is my issue: the post should not have been moved. Period. Jason proved to me that he is a hater himself and that he is only interested in so much truth. I find that to be common these days. My other main issue is that NO ONE person or race is immune to be exposed if they set out to do evil. That's it. Bottom line. And what do I see? I see all this resistance to anything Jewish/Zionist and i say let go of the old canards and let the info ride if it's legitimate. Follow the truth. Connect the dots. Follow the money to the top no matter who it is that you discover along the way, no matter what race or creed-go with it.

I personally have no issue with questioning stuff here even. But on the same hand - I think Jews are involved in the NWO. So are Germans, British, French, Italians, Spanish, Russians, Chinese, ... etc Smiley

But really, I dunno how 'exclusive' the top layer is. But I liken their structure to the mob, it's identical and perhaps the whole concept was a Jew's idea - but you can't damn the whole race for that. Any more than I hold all German's "guilty" for what Hitler did.

So yeah - no doubt - no race is immune. Actually; I think every race has had their hands in this 'evil' of wanting to control others at one time or another. Can't think of any culture or race that hasn't controlled 'slaves' at some point.
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« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2009, 10:49:03 PM »

Who is the hater here?  Jason is not bringing this $h1T up again.  Are you obsessed with Jason

The moderators can move the post as they see fit.  They are the moderators you are not.  The theme of the thread required movement.

If the caller would have said 90 % of Blacks.... the same reaction would have ensued.  would you have posted and obsesed about it?  no.  because it is taboo to say such a thing against blacks.

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« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2009, 11:09:26 PM »

wow, racists should hang themselves...
 if they wanna


and do you support the population control part? I would be willing to bet that most people have  little bit of racism in them...
im racist against the trash of every race,,,killers,,stealers and rapists,,i would have to agree here their population should be reduced.

so that means you would support population control on a very large scale I presume? ---  SEE ABOVE


Do you support the so-called hate crimes bill too? I'm just wondering what kind of people I'm dealing with here.----I DONT SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT SHRINKS FREE SPEECH,,PERIOD, I MAY NOT LIKE STEALERS KILLERS AND RAPISTS BUT MINIMIZING THEIR SPEECH ACCOMPLISHES VERY LITTLE IF ANYTHING

I don't like racism but I sure don't think they should hang themselves-everyone can be cured or just plain grow up.------WHILE I WOULD AGREE ITS NOT THE THOUGHTS THAT DO HARM (if thats sorta what you were saying here),,ITS THE ACTIONS,,STEALING KILLING AND RAPING ARE ACTIONS,,PIECES OF GARBAGE THAT PERFORM THESE ACTIONS SHOULD HANG THEIR SELVES,,,DOESNT REALLY MATTER WHAT COLOR THEY ARE TO ME,,,NOT AT ALL

ADJ   1.   racist        being biased or having a belief or attitude formed beforehand; "a prejudiced judge"

i have a belief and attitude formed that the above mentioned trash of every race should not be tolerated (stealers killers and rapists)

this post may seem off topic but its not because you brought up racist and i doubt you took a minute to consider all the definitions of the term.

(i know its coming)so since i called myself a racist above should i hang myself? no,,call me a hypocrite if you want,,doesnt bother me but i would never consider the ACTIONS mentioned above based on ones color or creed.

for the record im also racist against red fire trucks i think they should all be yellow,,im also racist against blue police cars i think they should all be black to match their thug uniforms,,and im racist against those red and black microwaves,,they just creep me out. Smiley

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« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2009, 11:14:27 PM »

The Mods move posts all the time if they feel there is a more appropriate place for them.  I've had a ton of mine moved.  So what?  Why are you getting so upset about it?

I personally have a problem when people change the name of a post from 'InfoWarrior' Jason Bermas: Jew Critics Are 'Anti-Semites' Who Should Hang Or Electrocute Themselves  to Topic: I am not an anti-semite, I just blame jews for everything (Title Modified)

Do you see the difference or is it just me?

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« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2009, 11:20:46 PM »

I personally have a problem when people change the name of a post from 'InfoWarrior' Jason Bermas: Jew Critics Are 'Anti-Semites' Who Should Hang Or Electrocute Themselves  to Topic: I am not an anti-semite, I just blame jews for everything (Title Modified)

Do you see the difference or is it just me?

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« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2009, 11:30:02 PM »

Hey, if the shoe fits......

Ahh..I see. Let's get something straight. The caller never came off as a racist. Jason blew this out of proportion so that it would fit his agenda. His agenda it appears is to make anyone who expose evil Zionists or evil jewish leadership or evil klans as racists and haters, you know "anti-semites''.  Jason clearly comes off as a zionist shill.

Point and case...another caller called in on May 7th to quote from the book the Synagogue of Satan that you can buy at Texe Marrs site. This is the man (Texe Marrs) that married Alex and his wife btw and I'm sure you know it. Texe supports this book. Well what does Bermas do when the guy quotes from the book? He hangs up on him and tells him "thanks for the anti-semitism' sir.

To begin with this AS is an over-used word. the guy felt as if he could call in the show and share this piece of info with Jason, figuring that in alternative radio all views are respected and not ridiculed. Nothing the guy said was overboard. Jason clearly wants to suppress this info.

The zionist jews in the minds of many, many, many in the alternative media are clearly at the top and if not the top of the NWO, a major element of it. So this is info that needs to be heard and not suppressed. Jason CLEARLY suppresses it and that can only make him a shill or give the appearance of a shill.

It's the opinion of many that the 9-11 movement was infiltrated since the beginning, and the message was to go a certain way. But now that missing links (see the video on google too on that note!) are bringing the zionists into the fold, there has been a huge divide in the 'truth' movement. It's beginning to look more like a bowel movement. If we are true to the truth, we investigate all and allow it to take us wherever it leads. some do not want to do that for some strange reason.
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« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2009, 11:36:55 PM »

Ahh..I see. Let's get something straight. The caller never came off as a racist. Jason blew this out of proportion so that it would fit his agenda. His agenda it appears is to make anyone who expose evil Zionists or evil jewish leadership or evil klans as racists and haters, you know "anti-semites''.  Jason clearly comes off as a zionist shill.

Point and case...another caller called in on May 7th to quote from the book the Synagogue of Satan that you can buy at Texe Marrs site. This is the man that married Alex and his wife btw and I'm sure you know it. Texe supports this book. Well what does Bermas do when the guy quotes from the book? He hangs up on him and tells him "thanks for the anti-semitism' sir.

To begin with this is an over-used word. the guy felt as if he could call in the show and share this piece of info with Jason, figuring that in alternative radio all views are respected and not ridiculed. Nothing the guy said was overboard. Jason clearly wants to suppress this info.

The zionist jews in the minds of many, many, many in the alternative media are clearly at the top and if not the top of the NWO, a major element of it. So this is info that needs to be heard and not suppressed. Jason CLEARLY suppreses it and that can only make him a shill or give the appearance of a shill.
After I rebuke you with this one, I'm going to bed. You say that "Nothing the guy said was overboard."  WRONG Nothing he said was overboard that was AIRED. It was dropped and cut off 12 seconds prior to the call ending... meaning we only heard a part of the segment of his call.... he went off using racial slurs and the such, hence Jasons rant (deserved or not, the caller fueld him with ANTI-SEMETISM... yes, again i'll repeat it ANTI-SEMETISM)

Please, lets put this one to bed.... cuz I'm tired... and I'm going to bed myself!

Night kiddies
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« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2009, 11:37:34 PM »

And btw this is not about 'post counts' or any crap like that. I am true to the truth, and not an egomaniac. I DESPISE EGOS, and there are too many in this 'movement' to count. Makes me want to vomit to tell you the truth.
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« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2009, 11:40:34 PM »

I personally have a problem when people change the name of a post from 'InfoWarrior' Jason Bermas: Jew Critics Are 'Anti-Semites' Who Should Hang Or Electrocute Themselves  to Topic: I am not an anti-semite, I just blame jews for everything (Title Modified)

Do you see the difference or is it just me?

When somebody acts like a punk shill, the light deserves to be shined on them.

The moderators really f**ked that thread up so bad that nobody can read it.

Well. I'd like to know what Alex has to say about Bermas saying that.

EDIT: Actually I started that thread, since it was posted on Rense. I read Rense, as well as lewrockwell, and cofcc, as far as independent news is concerned.
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« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2009, 11:41:44 PM »

After I rebuke you with this one, I'm going to bed. You say that "Nothing the guy said was overboard."  WRONG Nothing he said was overboard that was AIRED. It was dropped and cut off 12 seconds prior to the call ending... meaning we only heard a part of the segment of his call.... he went off using racial slurs and the such, hence Jasons rant (deserved or not, the caller fueld him with ANTI-SEMETISM... yes, again i'll repeat it ANTI-SEMETISM)

Please, lets put this one to bed.... cuz I'm tired... and I'm going to bed myself!

Night kiddies

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« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2009, 11:44:22 PM »

The moderators really f**ked that thread up so bad that nobody can read it.

Well. I'd like to know what Alex has to say about Bermas saying that.

EDIT: Actually I started that thread, since it was posted on Rense. I read Rense, as well as lewrockwell, and cofcc, as far as independent news is concerned.

You did start it and it was a good thread and should never been moved and dumbed down. Alex will not speak badly towards Jason, especially not on the air. As I said, this movement is full of egos and pride, very little humility.
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« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2009, 11:47:59 PM »

I'm going to be honest with everyone here as well as far as what I think of Berm-ass.

Positive: He is a infowarrior. He seeks the truth. He has the right idea, and he is motivated to destroy the NWO, as we all are.

Negative: A left leaning liberatarian. He doesn't know 1/2 what Alex, Marrs, and some of us others do. I can't stand his "radio voice". He copies Alex down to the bone, without his own personality. He believes everyone should live in a multi-cultural-f**k-fest harmony, and anyone that disagrees with him should <insert punishment>.
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« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2009, 11:48:48 PM »

Ahh..I see. Let's get something straight. The caller never came off as a racist. Jason blew this out of proportion so that it would fit his agenda. His agenda it appears is to make anyone who expose evil Zionists or evil jewish leadership or evil klans as racists and haters, you know "anti-semites''.  Jason clearly comes off as a zionist shill.

insert FAIL  No he doesn't because the caller didn't SAY zionist (the organization puported to represent Jews) the caller said Jews! that means the shepardic jews the jew kids all jews

Point and case...another caller called in on May 7th to quote from the book the Synagogue of Satan that you can buy at Texe Marrs site. This is the man (Texe Marrs) that married Alex and his wife btw and I'm sure you know it [now I know you are a racist, who gives a f**k what race one is married to?]Texe supports this book. Well what does Bermas do when the guy quotes from the book? He hangs up on him and tells him "thanks for the anti-semitism' sir.

To begin with this AS is an over-used word. the guy felt as if he could call in the show and share this piece of info with Jason, figuring that in alternative radio all views are respected and not ridiculed. Nothing the guy said was overboard. Jason clearly wants to suppress this info. [ there you are terribly mistaken, all views are subject to disrespect and can be ridiculed, Clintons view, the nwos view, racists views]

The zionist jews in the minds of many, many, many in the alternative media are clearly at the top and if not the top of the NWO,

see now we have specificity zionist please do know that you don't have to be a jew to be a zionist in this world!

Now go to bed!
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« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2009, 11:50:45 PM »

When somebody acts like a punk shill, the light deserves to be shined on them.

You know, most of your posts here are in the "anti-semtic" threads and the hate bill threads.  You don't have too many different things to say, do you?  You seem to be flogging the Jewish thing to no end.

Let's see:

And Goyim, don't forget that.

Here you are calling non Jewish people - Goyim.  That is not very respectful of anyone.  Are you under the mis understanding that all Jewish people make big distinctions between gentile and Jew.  I've only witnessed Hasids and Ultra Orthodox Jews even play with this distinction.  Most Jewish people, non-practicing, moderate, and conservative, are not as concerned with this idea as you might think.  Ever wonder if you are making your own straw men with these loaded terms?

Nor am I buying into it. It never made sense to me how a nation that rejects Christ could be 'Chosen' per se. And a nation that is mostly secular and atheistic at that. That always puzzled me and it has become clearer by the day. My hope and prayer is that Sodom and Egypt turns to Christ.

What are you saying in this gem?  You are judging nations based on whether they accept the name of Jesus Christ?  And if they do not accept His name, then they are Sodomites?  Proselytize much, convert much, you ever have a Christian agenda?  What is a shill again?

And I will dig up my evidence that suggests they are khazars. I challenge any jew to go and get a blood test and no I don't trust those studies and I have seen too many where they were written by Jews for Jews. Such as IQ tests where they say they're higher, it's nonsense.

There is no way for a Jew to prove they are a Jew since the records were destroyed, that's my main point, even if they claim they aren't khazars. There is no such thing a 'genetic jew', sorry about that.

And here you are deciding, being the judge as to who is genuinely Jewish and who is not.  WTF!?!  People are Jewish or Christian or Buddhist based on their life experiences and their worldviews.  You have no right to de-privilege people's religious associations and beliefs.  Whether people who call themselves Jewish have original blood lines or not is irrelevant both to non Jews and to Jews, especially to non-practicing Jews, moderate Jews, and conservative Jews.  Do you understand that there are many flavors and practices of Judaism just as there are various moderate and radical beliefs by Christians?  Again, I call strawman and boogie man, i.e. you build them both up.

So your saying that Jews are white?  Koestler's 13th tribe and other books have recently been written that suggest most modern day 'jews' are khazars.

You have no way to prove that they are desscendants of ancient Israel as the geneological records were destroyed in 70ad. Are you here for damage control? I mean seriously!

You are the one who seems to be in massive damage control as you spend all your time on this forum baiting race arguments.  Even worse, you bait these arguments based on your own assumptions and beliefs as a Christian.  At least realize that you are coming from a point of view which not everyone agrees with.

Before you spend more time making JUDGEMENTS on this forum, CHRISTIAN, please think about your own shill hood and agenda here which is obvious to anyone going through your posting history.

Freedom of religion, indeed, but an end to the agendizers, dividers, anal retentive believers, race baiters....it's getting old.
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« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2009, 11:51:14 PM »

I personally have a problem when people change the name of a post from 'InfoWarrior' Jason Bermas: Jew Critics Are 'Anti-Semites' Who Should Hang Or Electrocute Themselves  to Topic: I am not an anti-semite, I just blame jews for everything (Title Modified)

Do you see the difference or is it just me?

When somebody acts like a punk shill, the light deserves to be shined on them.

I was addressing this quote from you: "Here is my issue: the post should not have been moved. Period."

I too have had my titles changed  several times by the Mods, and I will agree with you - I don't like it and I don't think it's appropriate.   Moving a post is one thing, changing the title is another.

But don't feel you were singled out for "censorship".  It's happened to me and many people here.
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« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2009, 11:52:39 PM »

I was addressing this quote from you: "Here is my issue: the post should not have been moved. Period."

I too have had my titles changed  several times by the Mods, and I will agree with you - I don't like it and I don't think it's appropriate.   Moving a post is one thing, changing the title is another.

But don't feel you were singled out for "censorship".  It's happened to me and many people here.

I think everyone is sick of it. Not just you. Its happened to me before when I bring up the stuff they don't want you to hear.
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« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2009, 11:53:05 PM »

As far as Jones being a shill for the zionists or Jews, I just don't see it.  But even if he is a shill, so what?  We're all adults here.  We digest information and act on it.  And Jones puts out good information.  He may work for Netanyahu or the Pope, but I couldn't care less as long as I get to hear Jim Tucker and people like him on his show.  And as long as I'm directed to meaningful writeups of current events (not propagandizing govt 'reportage'), I'm happy.  You make the best decisions you can based on the information you have, and think of the decisions we'd be making if not for infowars.
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