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« on: May 15, 2009, 11:50:24 AM » |
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All I see is everyone running around like a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off.
All Alex says for his "solution" is to by more of his videos.
In order to find a solution, we must first identify the problem.
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS???
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2009, 11:52:54 AM » |
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a democratic republic can only function with an informed electorate, but not only does the government withhold information and even lie, most people are willfully ignorant?
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Jesus said, "Blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man; and cursed is the man whom the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man."
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2009, 11:58:11 AM » |
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The Constitution is the answer. Read it.
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2009, 12:04:10 PM » |
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The Constitution is the answer. Read it.
There are a lot of problems with the Constitution, but what part of it do you think is the BIGGEST problem and do you think that is our biggest OVERALL problem? |
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2009, 12:06:46 PM » |
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biggest OVERALL problem
general lack of participation by the people for the people
and American idol
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“As we know, there are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don’t know we don’t know.” Donald Rumsfield
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2009, 12:07:04 PM » |
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DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS???
Yes. Sociopaths tend towards to the top of the pile. Nice people are too nice. It was ever thus. Any solution will need a new solution after a while. Read Animal Farm. There will always be bastards. |
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2009, 12:07:42 PM » |
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There are a lot of problems with the Constitution, but what part of it do you think is the BIGGEST problem and do you think that is our biggest OVERALL problem?
The monstrous size of government is the root of the problem, or it is at least the infrastructure that enables corruption on such a massive scale, IMO. |
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"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it." Martin Luther King, Jr.
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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2009, 12:09:36 PM » |
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biggest OVERALL problem
general lack of participation by the people for the people
and American idol
What do you think it is that people are NOT participating in that is the problem? |
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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2009, 12:12:20 PM » |
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Sociopaths tend towards to the top of the pile.
What do sociopaths do once they get to the top that is the problem? |
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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2009, 12:14:07 PM » |
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The monstrous size of government is the root of the problem, or it is at least the infrastructure that enables corruption on such a massive scale, IMO.
How does the government get too big? Who controls the infrastructure and how? |
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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2009, 12:14:30 PM » |
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What do you think it is that people are NOT participating in that is the problem?
they are not getting involved in politics. they roll over and let "some one else take care of it" they blindly and tragically not questioning authority |
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“As we know, there are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don’t know we don’t know.” Donald Rumsfield
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2009, 12:15:14 PM » |
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What do sociopaths do once they get to the top that is the problem?
That has always been the problem. The solution is invent a system where sociopaths can't get to the top of the pile. Unfortunately any such system impinges on liberty. It's the human dilema. It's always been the human dilema. Some of us are bastards. |
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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2009, 12:47:50 PM » |
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This guy on with Alex right now (1:45 Central Time) is very close to the REAL problem but he is not being specific.
He is VERY close to the target!
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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2009, 12:57:03 PM » |
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Most of our problem can be traced back to the Globalist Bankers (Morgan, Rockefeller, Rothschilds and the Federal Reserve and their thousands of well paid minions in every top level of our govt, educational institution, media, healthcare, etc). If you take care of these, most of our problem could be fixed.Read "WEB OF DEBT" by Ellen Hodgson Brown and you will see where the problem began and how it has evolved to this very day. (ebook is here):http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?s=815f0680fce2a89bc11398580e69e5f2&showtopic=5993&view=getnewpostAnother Source: The Financial Fraud is pervasive and MUST be dealt with starting with the BIG 5 BANKS: (this outlines just a fraction of the fraud perpetrated over decades)http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showforum=107SOLUTION: Get these corrupt top bankers out of the business, and put them in jail, and bring our monetary system back to the people where the Constitution says it should be. Congress is the only one who is allowed to "Coin money" and control our currency. The private fed reserve and central bank buddies have had a private scam for decades whereby they have fed off the American taxpayers. THIS IS THIEVERY AND NEEDS TO END AND NOW! "The Creature from Jekyll Island" by G. Edward Griffin (another source that tells who the culprits are) THESE BANKERS CREATED THE CURRENT ECONOMIC CRISIS, AND THEY'RE STILL IN CHARGE AS APPOINTED YET AGAIN BY OBAMA TO FIX THE MESS THEY CREATED. NOW HOW STUPID IS THAT? 
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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2009, 01:03:06 PM » |
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"DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS???"
You have seen Alex's videos and you are asking this question?
Do you know what you are talking about?
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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2009, 01:07:07 PM » |
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The Constitution is the answer. Read it.
Established Religion ('christian' coalition and AIPAC fascism) including Established Corporatism are the problems. Monied or entrenched special interests simply buy cruddy private 'democracy' and thereafter they "own it" and our government.. We need to 100% finance all political campaigns publicly and even all electoral playing fields - A public bank account donation and chequebook for all candidates. Match all/any private donations from the public purse so that all have same advantage. We also need to strictly and vociferously enforce Anti-Combines Laws and oppose media concentration and media ownership monopolism. |
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« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2009, 01:56:47 PM » |
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This guy on with Alex right now (1:45 Central Time) is very close to the REAL problem but he is not being specific.
He is VERY close to the target!
Sovereign for some reason you remind me of a grammar school teacher. You keep asking the class questions. You already know the answers. Are you playing with us? |
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« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2009, 02:02:43 PM » |
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How does the government get too big?
By deceiving the people into socialism. Every time the state takes on a new function, no matter how big or small, we all lose the personal responsibility associated with that task. When you relinquish responsibility, you give away your decision-making power and, by extension, your right to be free. |
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"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it." Martin Luther King, Jr.
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« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2009, 02:10:15 PM » |
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Sovereign for some reason you remind me of a grammar school teacher. You keep asking the class questions. You already know the answers. Are you playing with us?
This is a learning process. People are on these fora because they are upset and they know something is wrong. I want to see what other people think the problem is. There can be no solutions until the problem is identified. Here is a clue: Ron Paul often mentioned it in his presidential campaign. Also, it is a two word alliteration. |
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« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2009, 03:20:43 PM » |
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There are a lot of problems with the Constitution, but what part of it do you think is the BIGGEST problem and do you think that is our biggest OVERALL problem?
I see no problem with it. It seems that you have a problem with America. |
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« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2009, 03:25:35 PM » |
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I see no problem with it. It seems that you have a problem with America.
You like the 16th Amendment? I think this is a very big problem with the Constitution. That is a very communistic view. If you are a communist, then I apologize. |
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« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2009, 03:33:07 PM » |
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What do sociopaths do once they get to the top that is the problem?
Being sociopaths they have no feelings for those anywhere below them. |
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« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2009, 03:43:36 PM » |
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Problem?
What problem?
Everything is just fine!
Did someone say something about a problem?
CONSPIRACY? Ridiculous! Nobody conspires ... things ... just ... happen!
Are you people crazy? THEY would not work together to hurt us ....
The GOVERNMENT loves us ... like God!
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« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2009, 04:36:07 PM » |
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SOLUTION: Get these corrupt top bankers out of the business, and put them in jail, and bring our monetary system back to the people where the Constitution says it should be. Congress is the only one who is allowed to "Coin money" and control our currency. The private fed reserve and central bank buddies have had a private scam for decades whereby they have fed off the American taxpayers. THIS IS THIEVERY AND NEEDS TO END AND NOW! "The Creature from Jekyll Island" by G. Edward Griffin (another source that tells who the culprits are) THESE BANKERS CREATED THE CURRENT ECONOMIC CRISIS, AND THEY'RE STILL IN CHARGE AS APPOINTED YET AGAIN BY OBAMA TO FIX THE MESS THEY CREATED. NOW HOW STUPID IS THAT? People don't want that solution. People want easy money now. They don't want to save up to buy a house, they want to have a mortgage. They don't want to work for their money. They don't want justice, they would prefer to have an implance where foreigners are kept poor making cheap stuff for them. This will eventually be their destruction when the whole system crashes, but they don't care about next week, they care about today. |
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« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2009, 05:03:53 PM » |
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PrisonPlanet Forum > ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** > General Discussion:
COMPLETE BASIC NEW WORLD ORDER GUIDE FOR THE NEW PEOPLE WAKING UPhttp://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=99606.msg590511#msg590511post#7 PD: for the links in thomas.loc.gov , you must copy the link and paste it in your web browser url-bar and then enter, just clicking them it will not enter
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« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2009, 07:28:16 PM » |
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By deceiving the people into socialism.
Every time the state takes on a new function, no matter how big or small, we all lose the personal responsibility associated with that task. When you relinquish responsibility, you give away your decision-making power and, by extension, your right to be free.
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« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2009, 07:51:35 PM » |
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You like the 16th Amendment? I think this is a very big problem with the Constitution.
That is a very communistic view. If you are a communist, then I apologize.
The 14th and up are NOT valid, since America fell after 1861, and the state borders were pretty much abolished. You can thank your glorious Lincoln for that. Welcome to the USSA unSovereign. |
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« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2009, 01:51:10 AM » |
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The OP here was so close to the problem that the process of solution resolution was over shadowed by his own ego... He is stuck in the "Problem Reaction" phase of the globalist schema, "Problem Reaction Solution"... and was mistakenly projecting his plight on everyone else here.
Either that or he was just another tax paid troll...
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« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2009, 02:02:05 AM » |
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I believe an overall solution is that everyone learns to become or seeks to become self sufficient and independent. That doesn't really mean buy products or anything.
Just learn to an acceptable stable sense of how and why the world works and how it effects you, those you care about and thus in turn effects the world around you and find a place for yourself in that.
If everyone sought to become independent, knowledgeable and polite with people the world would be much better and would have less problems.
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« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2009, 10:10:50 AM » |
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If everyone sought to become independent, knowledgeable and polite with people the world would be much better and would have less problems.
In theory. However the world is full of bastards who are sociopaths. |
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« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2009, 10:22:28 AM » |
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History teaches us that:
Problem
-- Those in power will commit grave abuses, and go to great lengths to stay in power.
-- Those in power will attempt to silence critics using any means available to them.
Solution
-- Shed light on the abuse of power, by those in power.
-- Be outspoken about those who demand you stay silent.
Israel, and America's blind support of it's Zionist Govt. is a prime example of the above. Speak out!
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