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John Lennon - Project a Positive Future
« on: May 13, 2009, 03:38:54 AM »
John Lennon/Yoko Ono 10/13 The FINAL Interview
Part of the last interview John Lennon made Dec 8, 1980

We make the future we project.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9HKQQfhRzA&feature=player_embedded
"We have to project a positive future." ~ John Lennon
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: John Lennon - Project a positive future
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2009, 03:46:14 AM »
I had the chance to meet John and Yoko at the Russian Tea Room in December of 1975. I think it was the 20th or 21st.

I had booked the Judy Collins Christmas Concert at Carnegie Hall with a friend who lived in the Village at the time. We went to the Russian Tea Room for pre-concert drins. John and Yoko were there. I had a good glimpse of them, really close.

I got to meet Yoko Ono two times in Paris after John Lennon died.
I don't believe in the official Mark Chapman murder version.
There is somethng more behind what we were told.

RIP John Lennon. I miss you.
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John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2009, 08:06:14 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIfHsYWeC1Y
John Lennon VS The Illuminati

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a transcript interview of John Lennon talking about the forces which govern the planet and what the future has instore. These people are the descendants of the rulers and Pharaos of Egypt. The British Monarchy are the direct descendants of the Pharaos of Egypt, their bloodlines and family history can be traced back to these rulers of the old world. As they prepare for global interdependance, the curtain on these people is slowly coming down and people are awakening to what these people want to do for all of us. I am not spreading fear as there is nothing to fear if you have love on your side. It is time to unite as humans to break down the barriers of religion, race, and politics and come together as one, as this is the only way we can defeat these people who want a global dictatorship, it is all about non-compliance and a willingness to let go and not to participate in the institutions these corrupt people have set up for all of us. So it is time to see through all the crap the corporate mass media want us to buy into, as the mass media is controlled by these people. When are you going to wake up and take control of your life and your destiny, this is our planet we should not have to pay for anything.....we are born and are bondaged to this planet we call Earth and these people play a game of monopoly with our lives. It's time we reaslise that money is not worth more than the toilet paper you wipe your arse with, and we belong to the land
Words can not describe how I feel, I am exiled in the UK away from my husband and babies and I so much love and miss them, I am heartbroken about my ordeal. I am so upset and overwhelmed by it all. I am not taking anything for my depression. I'm trying to hang in there, but it is hard.

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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2009, 08:16:01 PM »
Beautiful.  Ty. :)
As you sow, so shall you reap.

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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2009, 08:42:10 PM »
 :) :) :)

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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2009, 09:50:22 PM »
Lennon is just another Hollywood CFR/CIA agent...  The same as all the rest of the Hollywood, music industry puppets...

Look at the Beatles... the yellow submarine....

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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2009, 09:57:38 PM »
Lennon is just another Hollywood CFR/CIA agent...  The same as all the rest of the Hollywood, music industry puppets...

Look at the Beatles... the yellow submarine....

maybe not so cut and dried
they were a real sensation, they got their on their own.
they really were 4 blokes from Liverpool who took the world by storm.
then they got worked over, controlled, screwed, their souls went on sale, and 3/4 of them sold.
don't get me started on Paul and Faul (fake Paul)

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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2009, 10:05:37 PM »
Does anyone on this topic right now, really believe there was a fake Paul?
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." - The Dude

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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2009, 10:10:15 PM »
Does anyone on this topic right now, really believe there was a fake Paul?
  it cant be disproven   anything is possible  who is to say the first so called paul was the second paul are they not one of the same.  :P :P :P

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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2009, 10:46:11 PM »
Of course!  There could be a world out there, where a big yellow guy chomps on dots while little ghosts try to chase him.  Anything is possible.  I like to believe in Aliens and UFO's, although I've never seen one.  I've heard from some folk's who I wouldn't think would lie, that say that they have.  My Dad is one of them.  He didn't say he saw Aliens, but a UFO that turned his car off.  He doesn't know what to make of it.  This was before I was born.  I'm a skywatcher and a dreamer, but so far, just a bunch of planes.  I had a dream where I was abducted and they put a long needle into my belly button.  When I awoke my navel was bleeding.  It was one of those dreams where you swear it was real.  My wife said I was as white as a ghost when I walked into the room.  I told her the dream and she said I might have just scratched at it while I was dreaming.  I thought that was what must have happened.  Sorry, I went way off topic.  Anyway, with no proof to back me up, I think Paul is Paul.
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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2009, 10:55:19 PM »
Does anyone on this topic right now, really believe there was a fake Paul?

I've got tens of hours of research into this and yes, I think there is a fake Paul.  the real Paul was killed in the late 60's.  he didn't want to go along with the hallucinogenic/drug indoctrination plan they (CIA, etc) wanted them to get behind.  The Vietnam war protestors had them worried, they needed the most influential musical group in history to pave the way for the whole generation to get stoned.  The real Paul was vehemently against drug use.  One of the first interviews with the "new" Faul shows him talking about all the times he's taken acid and gotten stoned.

Word is Lennon felt bad about it all (duh) and hid lots of clues in the albums, songs, etc.  His death was suspect too: MK-Ultra all over it.  He was starting to talk; in his last interview with Playboy he talked about how the CIA was the real drug source, and that nothing is as it seems.

if you are at all interested, check out this site: it's pretty comprehensive.  take your time and keep an open mind.

http://plasticmacca.blogspot.com/2009/09/life-proved-faul-was-still-with-us.html


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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2009, 11:06:48 PM »

John Lennon's Opinion about Over Population

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yRh5NNiFG0

35 years ago, the big media scare was over population - we were all doomed. Then it was the coming ice age that was going to kill everyone. Now we're all going to die of global warming.


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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2009, 11:49:57 PM »
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maybe not so cut and dried
they were a real sensation, they got their on their own.
they really were 4 blokes from Liverpool who took the world by storm.
then they got worked over, controlled, screwed, their souls went on sale, and 3/4 of them sold.
don't get me started on Paul and Faul (fake Paul)

He's one of the biggest advocates of anything that has to do with the globalists... and no.. they didn't "make it on their own"... look it up.

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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2009, 12:34:55 AM »
I just recently came across this statement from McCartney on Wikipedia -

 "I have always adored Mahler, and Mahler was a major influence on the music of The Beatles. John and me used to sit and do the Kindertotenlieder and Wunderhorn for hours, we'd take turns singing and playing the piano. We thought Mahler was great".

The reason I mention this is because noted Tavistock musicologist Theo Adorno was one of foremost experts on [Gustav] Mahler's music. I have heard the claim that Adorno wrote the Beatles lyrics and music. Considering this statement by McCartney, I really do have to wonder if Adorno was at least guiding them along in their song writing. Not saying this is definitely the case, but who knows?

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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2009, 12:48:26 AM »

You might want to check this then, hal 9000:

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=97552

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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2009, 01:41:04 AM »
Here is an interesting quote from your link from Daniel Estulin -

http://barcelonadiary-lishman.blogspot.com/2008/02/interview-with-estulin-part-3.html

Estulin - [It wasn't just Adorno], there was a lot of help from a lot of very intelligent people to get that done. And if you listen to the Beatles' music, suddenly with Sergeant Pepper there is this tremendous increase in quality. There was just primate crap before that. And suddenly there’s this jump, because of all the people they had working with the Beatles on their songs. There’s a lot of proof of that [they were given a lot of help]. Like Lennon said in his 1975 interview, one minute we were playing whore houses and the next thing you know we were shaking hands with the Queen.

I wouldn't doubt that The Beatles were given lots of help to write all those hits.

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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2009, 02:30:50 AM »
Detoxify yourselves from all the crap music that is all over the radio waves and television.

Start listening to Classical Music and Opera.

Their complexity, attention to detail, and beauty are good for the brain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ9qWpa2rIg
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/

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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2009, 03:42:36 AM »
A song such as Eleanor Rigby is highly recognized played by Chamber Music ensembles all over the world. More like in Baroque style arrangement, without changing anything to the original tune. It is beautiful.

I am one who listens to classical and opera all the time. I don't know anything about today's crap, the Gagas and all. I liked Punk (Pistols and Pogues) but I have no idea of the music of today. I am not missing out on anything. It's all bland and fabricated and all sythethized.

I happened to run into John and Yoko while I was going for a pre-concert dinner at the Russian Tea Room right before Christmas in 1975. They were so real. It never occurred to me that he was manipulated not before or after. The CIA got him via Mark Chapman. Lennon was too much a disturbance to the system. I miss him.
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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2009, 04:02:59 AM »
While I don't agree with every single thing Lennon said and did in his lifetime, I still think he was a good guy in the final analysis. A lot of the kookier things he did were to no small extent due to the influence of flaky Yoko.

I have always believed that he was killed as the result of a conspiracy. He was speaking out against the war machine that basically dictates a good part of U.S. foreign policy, and a group within that extreme right wing element of the military industrial complex decided to silence him. Several months later Ronald Reagan was almost killed by another odd character exhibiting the characteristics of a mind controlled patsy. If Reagan had died, good old CIA boy "Poppy" Bush would have become President. Go figure.

As for listening to classical as opposed to rock and roll and such, I still like a lot of The Beatles songs along with a bunch of older rock music. I was also pleased to read that quote from McCartney about how he and John were heavily influenced by the music of Gustav Mahler. I happen to be somewhat of a Mahler fanatic myself.


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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2009, 05:00:22 AM »

I also strongly suspect that Lennon was killed by the powers-that-be.

To have one of the greatest icons of that era, with who knows how many millions of fans, actively fighting the establishment...

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« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2009, 08:15:07 AM »

My take, Lennon was anti war, raged against the regeme, sought peace through activism. ETC.

Ok, I don't smoke all his wisdom, but I do the above. Seems to me his focus was right on.

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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2009, 08:38:54 AM »
All We are saying is give peace a chance.....That phrase alone goes against everything the illuminated ones stand for...perpetual war for perpetual profit.
one man with courage makes a majority..TJ

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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2009, 10:57:13 AM »
I always liked a lot that song from Lennon, and I've just checked, and in that one, as expected, he didn't have any helping hand...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_Peace_a_Chance


And still, to better illustrate the point I was trying to make about Classical Music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhXHMzSOK5c

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« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2009, 11:00:11 AM »
I'm waiting for a Spice Girls are illuminati thread . . . .

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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2009, 12:10:54 PM »

Well, I'm still trying to figure out what's the story with that rapper called "Jay-Z" constantly making a triangle symbol with his hands and working for a company called "Roc-A-Fella Records"... :)

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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2009, 12:32:18 PM »
I'm waiting for a Spice Girls are illuminati thread . . . .

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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2009, 03:26:26 PM »
See:

Kucinich: ‘Class war is over, working people lost’

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/lennons-mbe-uncovered-in-royal-vault-after-40-years_1090897

LENNON'S MBE UNCOVERED IN ROYAL VAULT AFTER 40 YEARS

A medal awarded to JOHN LENNON by British monarch QUEEN ELIZABETH II has been uncovered in a royal vault - 40 years after the late BEATLE refused the honour as part of an anti-war protest.

The legendary musician was made a Member of the British Empire (MBE) in the Queen's 1965 Birthday honours list, alongside his fellow bandmates Paul MCCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr.

Lennon returned the MBE to Buckingham Palace four years later in protest to America's war in Vietnam.
Now, palace officials have re-discovered the insignia stored away at St James's Palace in London, along with a protest letter sent by Lennon to the Queen.

The letter reads, "Your Majesty, I am returning my MBE as a protest against Britain's involvement in the Nigeria-Biafra thing, against our support of America in Vietnam and against 'Cold Turkey' slipping down the charts. With Love, John Lennon."

Cold Turkey is a track Lennon released with the Plastic Ono Band.

And now palace officials have called on Lennon's widow Yoko Ono to decide the MBE's fate.

A spokesperson for the palace says, "John Lennon's MBE is being taken good care of and is in storage at the Central Chancery. It has been retained since the day Mr Lennon returned it, but in order to decide whether the medal could go on display in a museum, we would have to establish ownership first. It could be up to Yoko Ono as she is the custodian of John Lennon's estate."

http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/john_lennon/cold_turkey.html
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The Beatles Masonic album title
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When Lennon went forward with the "PEACE" movement he broke away from the point of his original "BEAT"les program.

As far convincing people that there are mass-programming programs in place, there are many levels as to obscure the operators. Most are in the matrix asleep enjoying the ride of a single level.

http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue22/cjdiaries_lennon.htm
Jose Joaquin Sanjenis Perdomo, John Lennon's true assassin(?)
by Salvador Astucia, Dec. 30, 2004

Everyone tells us that a person cannot be programmed to kill against his will. Although probably true in the vast majority of cases, even the possible exceptions needn't concern us here. Hinckley and Chapman were not programmed to kill, rather to appear on a crime scene looking guilty as hell. If they do kill, so much the better, but not to worry, professional backup is always provided. That's how it worked with Jose Perdomo, reportedly an anti-Castro Cuban exile and member of Brigade 2506 during the Bay of Pigs invasion in 1961.

Newly discovered information about doorman Jose Perdomo suggests he may have been John Lennon's true assassin and Mark David Chapman was merely a patsy who confessed to the crime while under the spell of relentless mind control techniques such as hypnosis, drug abuse, shock treatment, sleep deprivation, and so on. Perdomo was tasked to provide security for Lennon at the rock star's upscale apartment complex, the Dakota, the night of the murder. Records reveal a "Jose Joaquin Sanjenis Perdomo" (aliases: "Joaquin Sanjenis" and "Sam Jenis") was an anti-Castro Cuban exile and member of Brigade 2506 during the Bay of Pigs Invasion in 1961, a failed CIA operation to overthrow Fidel Castro.

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The Satanic Roots of Rock

Under the the strict guidance of EMI's recording director George Martin, and Brian Epstein, the Beatles were scrubbed, washed, and their hair styled into the Beatles cut. EMI's Martin created the Beatles in his recording studio.

Lockwood and EMI

EMI, led by aristocrat Sir Joseph Lockwood, stands for Electrical and Mechanical Instruments, and is one of Britain's largest producers of military electronics. Martin was director of EMI's subsidiary, Parlophone. By the mid-sixties EMI, now called Thorn EMI, created a music divison which had grown to 74,321 employees and had annual sales of $3.19 billion.

EMI was also a key member of Britain's military intelligence establishment. "

(->Tavistock)
Tavistock - Systems Psychodynamics - mass brain-washing techniques

Tavistock connection is The Aquarian Conspiracy  - LSD push

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341573.shtml

It Was Twenty Years Ago Today,"...That Crowley Drugged World Away: CIA psyops of 1960s-
author: webweaver

Tavistock brought the Beatles to the United States ... an integral part of "THE CHANGING IMAGES OF MAN," URH (489)-2150-Policy Research Report No. 4/4/74. Policy Report pre-pared by SRI Center for the study of Social Policy, Director, Professor Willis Harmon.

Lysergic acid, "LSD," so conveniently provided for them by the Swiss pharmaceutical company, SANDOZ, following the discovery by one of its chemists, Albert Hoffman, how to make synthetic ergotamine, a powerful mind-altering drug. The project was financed through one of their banks, S. C. Warburg, and the drug was carried to America by the philosopher, Aldous Huxley.

The new "wonder drug" was promptly distributed in "sample" size packages, handed out free of charge on college campuses across the United States and at "rock" concerts, which became the leading vehicle for proliferating the use of drugs.

The book: Beatles, Rock'n'Roll & Mind Control," by Ben Gunn, 1999;
http://www.illuminati-news.com/rock_and_mc.htm

Without massive media hype, and without almost around the clock coverage, the hippie-beatnik rock, drug cult would never have gotten off the ground; it would have remained a localized oddity. The Beatles, with their twanging guitars, silly expressions, drug language and weird clothes, would not have amounted to a hill of beans. Instead, because the Beatles were given saturation coverage by the media, the United States has suffered one cultural shock after another.

The men buried in the think tanks and research institutions, whose names and faces are still not known to but a few people, made sure that the press played its part. Conversely, the media's important role in not exposing the power behind the future cultural shocks made certain that the source of the crisis was never identified. Thus was our society driven mad through psychological shocks and stress. "Driven mad" is taken from Tavistock's training manual. From its modest beginnings in 1921, Tavistock was ready in 1966 to launch a major irreversible cultural revolution in America, which has not yet ended. The Aquarian Conspiracy is part of it.

http://www.illuminati-news.com/art-and-mc/rock-and-mc.htm
Beatles, Rock'n'Roll & Mind Control
by Wes Penre, February 28, 1999

The Beatles were made "Members of the British Empire" by Queen Elizabeth II of England in the 60's. The Queen is one of the highest Illuminati members on this planet. If the Beatles were so "rebellious" and against the system as John Lennon always said they were, how come the Queen accepted them? Quite recently Paul McCartney was knighted as well. Elton John is another example of a number of artists and actors who have been knighted. The ONLY ones being knighted by the Queen of England are those who have served the Illuminati Agenda well. Things are not what they seem to be. We have been severely tampered with and extremely deceived.

(John Lennon returned/refused his Knighhood in ~1969?)

LSD Inventor Albert Hofmann Dead at Age 102
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Owsley Stanley went on to do more sound work for the Grateful Dead after he was released from prison. He now lives in Queensland, Australia.  http://www.thebear.org/

Oh and Sandoz maker of Hofmann's LSD is now Novartis
Search:  RAND Tavistock Manson "Global Mind Change"

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=106104.0



What was the seminar, specifically?

Willis Harman:
It was called The Secora Seminar. The same group became Beyond War, they still exist, I think. It became apparent to me through that experience that I had feelings that I was not even aware of, you know my unconscious mind. Its rather hard to explain how an experience suddenly opens you up. It's not exactly a rational, linear process. At any rate I just started to search around for whoever knew something about any part of this.

I made one trip to Europe and got aquainted with the Society for Psychical Research, that was back in the days of Sir George Joy and Rosalyn Heywood. Celia Green was just a youngster coming in at that time. So in the next half dozen years or so I got somewhat involved in psychical research and somewhat involved in the psychedelic research. That sort of blew up in a way in the 1960's! So I shifted over to doing research on the future.

Laurel Canyon - David McGowan - Birth of the Hippie Generation - Abstract


Kurt Cobain revelations: CIA mind control

Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2009, 04:31:19 PM »
another great thread (sociostudent!):

World Vision's Web/ron luce/teen mania ministries

INFOWARS plugged on TWITTER PAGES. Spencer Pratt, Heidi Montag, Miley Cyrus

Spies Without Borders
http://primarysources.newsvine.com/_news/2007/08/21/905477-social-networks-dummy-corporations-and-the-many-faces-of-the-cia
Another area said to be well exploited by the CIA for its ability to explain the presence of U.S. nationals in all corners of the globe is that of charities and non-governmental agencies. For many years now it has been all but accepted that USAID is "the humanitarian arm of the CIA". and Americares has been singled out as well. Moving a little closer to the fringe, the well-known relief organization World Vision is also a CIA front, "providing cover for the agency's experiments in mind control". These theories weave a tapestry in which John Lennon assassin John Hinckley and would-be Reagan assassin Mark David Chapman are 'Manchurian Candidate' mind-controlled puppets with demonstrable ties not only to World Vision, but also to the Bush family.
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Namebase: (see social network diagram by clicking link)
http://www.namebase.org/main4/World-Vision.html
At the time John Hinkley "shot" Reagan Hinkley's brother was having dinner with one of the Bush sons. Hinkley's father was a close friend of Bush senior and the number 2 man in a CIA front called WORLD VISION SOCIETY. The WORLD VISION SOCIETY purported to feed the world's hungry while all along their purpose was to manage refugee camps from which to recruit assassins. Today the WORLD VISION SOCIETY manages the refugee camp at the old Jones Town location where the CIA's Hmong mercenaries now are.

Chapman, the assassin of John Lennon, worked at a WORLD VISION SOCIETY managed refugee camp for the Cuban boat people at Fort Chaffee with the remnents of ALPHA 66. As Lennon was shot, president elect Reagan and his chosen CIA Director Bill Casey clinked champaign glasses a few blocks away in a New York City hotel. That is how they set the tenor of their administration.

And remember, the doctors said they removed a disc from Reagan--not a bullet. Barbara Honegger thinks Brady was the intended victim because of what he knew about the deal Reagan cut with the Iranians to delay the hostage release.
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2009, 04:40:14 PM »
Great info, but there is a little error in the first paragraph - Hinckley shot Reagan and Chapman shot[?] Lennon. Cheers.

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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2009, 04:54:47 PM »
Great info, but there is a little error in the first paragraph - Hinckley shot Reagan and Chapman shot[?] Lennon. Cheers. 

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These theories weave a tapestry in which John Lennon assassin Mark David Chapman and would-be Reagan assassin  John Hinckley are 'Manchurian Candidate' mind-controlled puppets with demonstrable ties not only to World Vision, but also to the Bush family.
Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2009, 05:08:42 PM »
No problemo, and yes, the World Vision connection between Chapman and Hinckley is too strange to be ignored.

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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2009, 01:49:26 AM »
Another good thing for the brain, better than all the pop (and whatever) music that has become the mainstream, is also good electronic and environmental music.

As a DJ around here says, "Electronic [music] is above all music for the mind. Subtle, evanescent, intensely cerebral..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmO7TdQfcKs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lLWHfyG1Ss

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Re: John Lennon VS The Illuminati
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2009, 03:55:19 AM »
I'm waiting for a Spice Girls are illuminati thread . . . .

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« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2009, 04:16:59 AM »
 
The Horrible Truth About The Spice Girls
- everything you always feared about the spice girls is true! -

http://www.fredscape.com/spice2.htm

    As you might have guessed this isn't just an ordinary Spice Girls fan-page. No, it really ain't. These ladies might be considered nice, good-looking, modern and the ultimate in present-day girl-bands, but that just looks that way...and is part of a very sneaky conspiracy plotted to undermine the sanity of normal people.

You are not in any way obliged to read on and have all your dreams and fantasies about these innocent looking girls shattered brutely, but it would be appreciated by the writer :)

And don't forget to read the disclaimer!)

Overview

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The Spice Girls are a rather famous English girl-band, and it consists of a number of NATO generals, several musicians, make-up artists, two singers, five girls-members and a songwriter. This band isn't just a band, but it's much more. Just like a lot of modern-day boy- and girl-bands, it didn't grow together like they usually do, but was constructed by the record-company. And this time not just to make brute amounts of money, but to achieve some entirely different goals that will be explained to you when you read the history-part of this page. The best-known members of this band are:

Emma - psycho in disguise
Lovely little Emma   Emma is a small and nice-looking girl that joined the band when she was almost run over by Victoria's taxi. Her real name is Emma Swashbuckle and she's seventeen years old. Her hobbies are skydiving, eating large amounts of paprika chips and collecting empty Guiness cans. She also has a severe passion for the classic science-fiction movie "Blade Runner", and she had the brilliant idea to steal the mood of that movie for their newest video!

Mel B. - horrible gnome of doom
Our Laplandian Princess!   Mel B. is a twenty-two year old inhabitant of the Laplandian tundras, and her real name is Mél Banitobia Tikkititatophinaer. You can imagine why they use Mel B. instead. Before she started her career as a member of the Spice Girls she hunted game and clubbed harp seals together with the rest of her family, but when her family was killed by environmental terrorists she was dicovered by an impressario and absorbed by the group. Her hobbies are swimming, clubbing harp seals, building iglos and painting Tundra-landscapes.

Mel C. - "I love goats!"
She Who Kicks Xena's Arse And Enjoys It!   As a former mercenary from somewhere in the Balkans, Melanie Czipcksky joined the Spice Girls after her succesful attempt to assasinate some Nato Generals (see the history for more info). She is twenty-five years old and trained by some of the very best in guerilla warfare, so you'd better try not to get into a fight with her. She collects small arms and Kalashnikov posters, and likes to listen to speed- and deathmetal while she works out. Her favorite food is smoked roast-beef.

Victoria - farm queen
The ultimate taxi-driver   Obsessed by missing left socks, Victorya Anetta Shlojngue left the Polish farmlands and came to London in search of money, adventure and a left sock. She became a taxi driver in greater London and was discovered by Mel B when she stepped into a cab. She almost ran over Emma and discovered her that way, and she likes to watch Russian horror-movies and does a great amount of jogging.

Geri - mutated beyond all recognition!
Our favorite stewardess...   Ms. Geri Dunlow used to work as a stewardess for British Airways and as a part-time call-girl before she joined the Spice Girls. Vanilla Ice met her when arriving in London and tried to hire her, but that didn't go too well so he got her into the group instead. She is addicted to soap-operas and is known to know the entire plot of "As the world turns", and she loves to listen to Pavarotti when she is busy with her second hobby: cooking. Geri is an excellent cook but never wanted to make it professional because she hates doing the dishes. She has been kicked out of the group recently because of a skin disease making her look utterly ridiculous.

Vanilla Ice - ultimately uncool
How cool can't you possibly be!?   As a songwriter for the Spice Girls, Vanilla Ice travels around the world with them to get his inspiration, and he often turns to one of Hollands greatest songwriters Ben Cramer for advice. After he lost all his belongings and rights to his own music to some nice rap-dudes he devoted his life to writing melancholic and empty songs. He collects albums with German folk-music, breeds frogs within his suitcase and likes to drive (and crash!) fast cars whenever he gets a chance.
 

Our secret sources within the record-company that have constructed (or spawned, whatever you prefer) our lovely Spice Girls have informed us of some rather horrifying facts that we must share with the public. We cannot guarantee that these things are in any way true or whatsoever, but we just post them here so you can decide for yourself.

Breakup was orchestrated by frogs!!!The destruction of this horrible, slimy "girl band" that succeeded in producing the most revolting noises *ever* has appartently been destroyed by an unknown source, presumably a splinter group of the not so well known leage of independent laplandian gnoo salesmen. This leage, that has been feared throughout the civilized parts of europe, has done something that has never been tried before. Instead of tactical nukes, nerve gas and exploding banana's, they tried a radical new approach. They called them and kindly asked them to try and imitate an aubergine as best as they could. The best imitation would win a nice price! So ... three weeks later, when the police stormed the compound where the spice girls where stored, they found nothing but some aubergines. These were taken and eaten the same night by the police corps in honour of the fallen.

Nato executives where unavailable for comments at the time.

Geri gets Andorran Skin Disease!!!Yes, ladies and gentlemen, it is true. The real reason for Geri's sudden dissappearance is the fact that she has contracted an horrible skin disease from a mysterious Andorran goat. This skin disease causes the victim's skin to turn white, with red spots on select locations. The disease also has a profound impact on the victim's hair, causing it to curl tremendously and turn very red. It is obvious that poor Geri can't cope with her new looks, especially due to the fact that her mental state hasn't been too stable lately. Until her condition has stabilized she has been kicked out of the group, and has been locked in a freight container somewehere in London. We'll keep you informed.

Spice Girls Scream LoudestWhat we all feared has been proven true: the combined screaming-power of the Spice Girls is the noisiest and deadliest sound in the world, according to the Russian scientist Dr. Vladymir Kzostov. Formerly employed by the Soviet military research department, Mr. Kzostov has spent 27 years in the field of sonic warfare-research and has been nominated for this year's Nobel War-Prize. According to his report, the noise emitted at a typical Spice-Girls concert is nearly thrice as loud as a normal Space Shuttle-launch, and he has discovered that those things on stage everybody believes are microphones are inf fact not. These are in reality sophisticated anti-sound projectors that in fact eliminate most of the noise produced by the Spice Girls. Without these devices, Kzostov estimates, the noise produced will dwarf the explosion of the Krakatau. Rumor goes that the recent death of one of the Milli Vanilli-guys was due to sonic overload, caused by Victorya...poor man!

Spice Girls "meet" Aphex Twin It was to be expected, of course, and it has finally happened! The famous British techno/ambient guru Aphex Twin (Richard D. James) has remixed the Spice Girls' latest release "Spice up your life". Of course the remix has little to do with the original, save for some samples and a vague melody, and the rather onorthodox breakbeat combined with interesting screeching and moaning metallic noises give the remix a typical twist. The rather sensational videoclip, set in a not too distance post-'Spice up yer life" future, features five man-sized, brightly colored fluffy bears with the faces of all spice girls attached, which are chased by Aphex Twin and his flamethrower. At the end the burned corpses are run over (again and again) by Aphex' armored car, surrounded by a big crowd of celebrating children. You can get a good impression of it by visiting http://www.warp-net.com and follow the links to the "Come to daddy"-videoclip (in realvideo-format)

Royal Spice Girls? This must be one of the most horrifying ideas for the British people. As you might know, the British are mildly fascinated by their monarchy, and that's a weakness the Spice Girls will apparently use for their own devious goals, like world domination and that sort of things. So they brutally invited themselves for a dinner-party at Buckingham Palace, not unlike the way the terrorize a restaurant in their Wannabe-video, and started breaking things and smeared the Royal Bed with peanut butter. Prince Charles was rather upset when he found out that his entire video-collection of Camilla Parker Bowles' nudie-shots had been taken, copied and sold to a major video-rental company, which has announced to release the series within a month or two. The Royal Family has declared a state of utter emergency and seems to be in disorder. All according to plan, of course....

Does Mel C. have an affair with Gala? Yes, it sounds almost too gross to be true, but our sources have confirmed that Mel C. and Gala have been sighted together in the more notorious parts of the London club-scene, walking hand in hand into the infamous "Pink Slut Club" where an audience of over 300 people watched the famous band Rock Bitch perform their, ehm, interesting show. Afterwards our source, who had disguised herself as a Taxi-driver, drove both Gala and Mel C. to the London Sheraton, and on the way she heard some pretty disgusting sounds coming form the rear seats. Apparently Gala and Mel C. were so impressed by Rock Bitch's performance that they'd decided to replay the more vulgar parts of the show together, but couldn't wait to get to the hotel...

Emma beats up Vanilla Ice! We of the Fredscape Collective have always thought that sweet looking Emma isn't as sweet as shee looks, and it seems that we're right! It all happened during the preparations of a concert in Berlin, when Vanilla got lost in the catacombs and walked into Emma's dressing room by accident. Emma was just putting on her wig when the startled Vanilla Ice came in and started screaming his guts out. And when Emma started treating him on some vague but rather lethal-looking kicks he started screaming even more. And that was his luck, for security stormed in and found the unconcious and heavily bleeding Vanilla on the ground with a raving and screaming Emma still kicking him. Security had to sedate Emma and tie her up before the medical personnel could rush in and reanimate Vanilla Ice. He had to spend two weeks on the intensive care and now suffers from a severe mental trauma...he's scared to death whenever he sees a young girl with white hair.



The true history of the Spice Girls

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It all started a long, long time ago, long before anyone had ever imagined the high-tech and wild nineties as they are now (if you hadn't noticed that already: these are the wild and high-tech nineties! Yahooo!!!), there was a small family of Inuit people living alongside a pretty cool piece of tundra somewhere in the more remote and rather dull parts of Lapland. This small family kept itself alive with the hunting of all kinds of furry animals, and they regularly had clashes with some of those environmentalists about the clubbing of cute little harp seals. The environmentalists claimed these seals were endangerd and cute and very popular with kids and more of that stuff, so they ordered the family to stop clubbing those beasties and find a job or something. The family declared that clubbing cute furry animals *was* their job and that they would die gruesomely or live from welfare if they'd stop, so the environmentalists got quite angry and started to behave themselves so badly that the family saw no other option than to club and skin them, and sell the resulting leather on the market.

Of course Greenpeace didn't wait long with an "appropriate reaction", and they blasted every one of the family and burned the corpses in a very happy and party-like fashion, after which they ravaged the cool piece of tundra and turned it in to a not so cool piece of tundra...standard Greenpeace procedure, mind you. But they forgot just one tiny thingie...damn them.

The oldest daughter of the family, called Mél Banitobia Tikkititatophinaer, had been out hunting and clubbing during the onslaught and therefor got the surprise of her life when she returned to the scorched remnants of her family's iglo-estate. And she stood speechless until a bus filled with irritating tourists stopped and flooded the place with an awful amount of noise and Japanese people....then she finally cried out in her typical yodel-like way and scared the hell out of everyone....except for an impressario from London (we won't tell you his real name, so we'll just call him Jan-Jaap). Jan-Jaap was quite impressed, for that is his job as an impressario, and he offered the screaming girl a contract at some vague big record-company.

This record company had just recently targeted almost half of the population with a very devious and gruesome method, and it yielded such immense effect and revenue that the company was desperately seeking for a way to get an hold on the other half of the country. This method, better known as the sneaky and seductively oiled boy-groups, had sent millions of innocent girls screaming and wetting their pants whenever they were shown on the telly, played on the radio or were used succesfully as an advertising gadget. So half the continent became destabilized in political and, more important, economical aspect, and the governments of all affected nations combined forces to stop this deadly tide, by whatever means possible. An attempt with tactical nuclear weapons was barely avoided when a the destruction of greater-London was almost at hand, and just because some accountant in the houses of parliament just discovered that the loss of real-estate was slightly less profitable than the succesful halt of the boy-group epidemic. So the newly-formed and ultra-secret military task-force had to come up with a diffrent approach....and then Jan-Jaap had an idea!

Jan-Jaap presented his idea on a high-level conference in Brussels, but the implications of having every one's eardrums perforated and sealed with prefabricated kevlar-steel knobs were considered to be "a bit silly", so the bureaucrats came up with a radical new approach: the girl-band of doom! And Jan-Jaap was the one to create it....so he decided to go to Lapland to get some inspiration.

When he returned with the still screaming Mél Banitobia Tikkititatophinaer everyone was awestruck and becoming sincerely irritated untill Jan-Jaap told her to shut up or be forced to eat a bag of fried peppermints. When Mél started on her fifth bag and still happily munched along they kicked her in the arse and told her that she could forget becoming a movie-star if she'd continued to behave as morose as this...so she immediately stopped screaming and started discussing the movie-contract. At last they came to a deal: she would be leading a girl-band, code name "Girl Squad" until they became famous enough to send the entire male population drooling all over their belongings and worse, and afterwards she would be starring in a movie about the band and get her own talkshow about huskies on CNN.

So now the real work started! First of all, they needed someone to write the songs. And that was a very nasty piece of work, for the songs had to be utterly mindless and still creep into someones head as it were a vampire-maggot. They knew they had only two options about who to order to write these songs, but one was rather busy with his "Phantom of the Opera"-performance so they had to make a deal with Vanilla Ice. Jan-Jaap travelled to L.A. and tried to talk to mister Ice in person, but he was rather busy at the moment being intimidated and hanged out of the window up-side down by some people who could actually make rap-music, something he'd never been really able to do, so he had to wait some time. But then the deal was made real soon because poor Vanilla had just given away the rights to his own music to those nice rap-dudes and was in desperate need of cash to pay his "protection"-money to the same nice rap-dudes.

Meanwhile Mél B.T. was looking for some good-looking and horribly naive girls that wanted to become famous. Instead she found a London-Taxi driver called Victorya Anetta Shlojngue, a former Polish farm-lady that had come to the British capital in search of her missing left sock she'd lost when she was nine years old. Mél B.T. offered her a closet full of left socks and a one-way ticket back to Poland if she'd join her band. Victorya immediately started to complain in broken English that she wanted to make money to help rebuild the orphanage for silly-looking kids in Warsaw and needed an awful amount of money to do so. But seventeen-thousand left socks would also do nicely. Therefor Mél B.T. offered 17,500 socks. And you know this is an offer no Polish lady can ever refuse so she happily joined the "Girl Squad" and got twenty-five left socks in advance!

On their way back to the record company, that the government had nationalized for this project, Victorya's taxi trashed the bike of the gorgeous but rather Kelly Bundy-like Emma Swashbuckle...an ideal target for the devious Mél B.T. So she jumped out of the car and started screaming and raging about the scratch Emma's now deceased bike had left on Victorya's Taxi, so the confused and rather intimidated Emma was forced to join the group and repay the damage with the money (minus interest rate, of course) she earned that way. And they rode on.

A few days later Herr Doctor Ice arrived at Heathrow and was ready to start his work....but just after he had a talk with that lovely stewardess that treated him so kindly on this flight. So they started talking and Vanilla finally asked if Ms. Geri Dunlow had anything to do that evening...he was shocked by her response: "sure, but it'll cost ya, honey" for he was a farm-boy from a small village near Milwaukee and only just famous and so on. So when he and his "date" walked out of the terminal and found the entire crew of the "Girl Squad" waiting he became red and his nasty Milwaukee accent returned...but he quickly saved the day by claiming that Geri was his personal addition to the Squad and that she was ready for work. Geri was quite happy with this arrangement, especially for the fact that she had convinced Vanilla of the fact that she couldn't just do that sort of stuff for free. So, Vanilla was forced to pay her not only by the hour, but with additional hourly funding and expenses paid too.

The final day before the operation started the military command had a meeting with Jan-Jaap, Vanilla and the girls about the results achieved thus far. Nobody noticed the rather strange behavior of one of the military aides within the room, but when they did it was almost too late. Melanie Czipcksky was thought to be a rather nice and easy-going Nato-secretary from Sweden, but that was not the case. Ms.Czipcksky was from an obscure and little-known region in the Balkans, and she was rather pissed off about the fall of her beloved Communist Empire. So she had only one goal in her life: kicking some major ass in the Nato. That she did just after the start of the meeting. She executed three generals before Vanilla Ice managed to get her signing a deal with the record company, for they could use some vague paramilitary girl to spice things up a bit withing the Squad. She could even sing some ancient Yugoslavian and Bulgarian warsongs, though not very good. Its sounded more like Rambo clearing his throat but it was the idea that counted

At last the entire team was complete, and the real work started. While the girls were taking singing-lessons at Madame Straphonski's Singing School, Vanilla and Jan-Jaap tried to write songs that were empty but tangy enough to be of use. Emptiness wasn't the problem whenever Vanilla was involved, but the tangy part was the real nasty bit. After some truly gross and quite annoying pieces of work they both agreed to contact Ben Cramer and let him do the tangy bits. So after a few minutes' worth waiting the fax from Amsterdam arrived with some horribly melancholic and tangy Dutch tunes which they immediately translated roughly and ran to Madame Straphonski's to try them out.

But when they arrived they faced a truly remarkable problem: none of the girls was able to produce a steady and coherent note, so singing was an impossibility of the first magnitude!
Then Vanilla had an idea: the ancient art of play-backing! So they immediately contacted Milli Vanilli, cousins of Vanilla Ice, and explained the problem to them. They started yelling and screaming and claimed they never ever had play-backed in their entire carreer, but that was as true as can be because they hadn't ever had a carreer as such, so another deal was made....the songs would be sung by Milli Vanilli and piched up in real-time to sound even more feminine! An excellent move!

So the Spice Girls became famous, and their goals were easily achieved: now the entire population was coerced and happy thanks to all sorts of boy- and girl-bands. But the secret organization behind this coercion wasn't satisfied....the men in black wanted more power, and more happy people. Europe was conquered, but the States weren't affected enough to their liking, so the devious plan of a Girlie tour to the USA was plotted and prepared as the military operation it essentially was. And was executed according to plan.

It worked almost too well....the fact that Hollywood has come up with the cute idea of making a Spice Girls movie shows enough. So if you're planning a trip to the States in order to escape from the terrifying pressure in Europe, plan something else. There is nowhere to run anymore....

Later on, when it turned out that coercing the population proved to be utterly useless because it was just as effective like coercing a herd of brain-dead cattle, and not at least as funny. So, the spice girls project was canned, the band members were locked up in a specially constructed compound (a wooden crate with a special coating, eg. concrete) located somewhere in Scotland (the bottom of Loch Ness), and the Nato officials geared up for their new goal ... something that has to do with mutant space frogs.

We'll keep you informed ...

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Don't be offended by this page, since it is all a bunch of crap we came up with when we were bored. Let us hope none of it is even remotely true, since in that case our future could be very bleak indeed....

 

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John Lennon: "..believed in Truth, and had dared to speak up"
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2010, 11:39:46 AM »


The Tea Maker
By Yoko Ono
December 7, 2010

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/08/opinion/08ono.html?_r=1&nl=opinion&emc=tya1
Tokyo

JOHN and I are in our Dakota kitchen in the middle of the night. Three cats — Sasha, Micha and Charo — are looking up at John, who is making tea for us two.

Sasha is all white, Micha is all black. They are both gorgeous, classy Persian cats. Charo, on the other hand, is a mutt. John used to have a special love for Charo. “You’ve got a funny face, Charo!” he would say, and pat her.

“Yoko, Yoko, you’re supposed to first put the tea bags in, and then the hot water.” John took the role of the tea maker, for being English. So I gave up doing it.

It was nice to be up in the middle of the night, when there was no sound in the house, and sip the tea John would make. One night, however, John said: “I was talking to Aunt Mimi this afternoon and she says you are supposed to put the hot water in first. Then the tea bag. I could swear she taught me to put the tea bag in first, but ...”

“So all this time, we were doing it wrong?”

“Yeah ...”

We both cracked up. That was in 1980. Neither of us knew that it was to be the last year of our life together.

This would have been the 70th birthday year for John if only he was here. But people are not questioning if he is here or not. They just love him and are keeping him alive with their love. I’ve received notes from people in all corners of the world letting me know that they were celebrating this year to thank John for having given us so much in his 40 short years on earth.

The most important gift we received from him was not words, but deeds. He believed in Truth, and had dared to speak up. We all knew that he upset certain powerful people with it. But that was John. He couldn’t have been any other way. If he were here now, I think he would still be shouting the truth. Without the truth, there would be no way to achieve world peace.

On this day, the day he was assassinated, what I remember is the night we both cracked up drinking tea.

They say teenagers laugh at the drop of a hat. Nowadays I see many teenagers sad and angry with each other. John and I were hardly teenagers. But my memory of us is that we were a couple who laughed.

And  the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, 
Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren,  ye have done it unto me.

Matthew 25:40

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Re: John Lennon: "..believed in Truth, and had dared to speak up"
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2010, 12:10:49 PM »
"There's room at the top I'm telling you still. But first you must learn how to smile as you kill. If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

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Re: John Lennon: "..believed in Truth, and had dared to speak up"
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2010, 02:52:06 PM »
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/lennons-mbe-uncovered-in-royal-vault-after-40-years_1090897

LENNON'S MBE UNCOVERED IN ROYAL VAULT AFTER 40 YEARS

A medal awarded to JOHN LENNON by British monarch QUEEN ELIZABETH II has been uncovered in a royal vault - 40 years after the late BEATLE refused the honour as part of an anti-war protest.

The legendary musician was made a Member of the British Empire (MBE) in the Queen's 1965 Birthday honours list, alongside his fellow bandmates Paul MCCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr.

Lennon returned the MBE to Buckingham Palace four years later in protest to America's war in Vietnam.
Now, palace officials have re-discovered the insignia stored away at St James's Palace in London, along with a protest letter sent by Lennon to the Queen.

The letter reads, "Your Majesty, I am returning my MBE as a protest against Britain's involvement in the Nigeria-Biafra thing, against our support of America in Vietnam and against 'Cold Turkey' slipping down the charts. With Love, John Lennon."

Cold Turkey is a track Lennon released with the Plastic Ono Band.

And now palace officials have called on Lennon's widow Yoko Ono to decide the MBE's fate.

A spokesperson for the palace says, "John Lennon's MBE is being taken good care of and is in storage at the Central Chancery. It has been retained since the day Mr Lennon returned it, but in order to decide whether the medal could go on display in a museum, we would have to establish ownership first. It could be up to Yoko Ono as she is the custodian of John Lennon's estate."

http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/john_lennon/cold_turkey.html

He exposed the insanity of central control systems. please watch the documentary "Secrets of Oz" and then also watch the movie "Gandhi".

Then also realize that John Lennon gave his "Member of the British Empire" honor back to the Queen Bitch.



John Lennon returns his MBE to the Queen
http://www.beatlesbible.com/1969/11/25/john-lennon-returns-his-mbe-to-the-queen/
9.00am, Tuesday 25 November 1969 (40 years ago)


John Lennon returned his MBE to the Queen on this day, as an act of protest against the Vietnam war.

Lennon's chauffeur Les Anthony returned the insignia of the award to Buckinham Palace in the morning, also delivering handwritten letters to the Queen, prime minister Harold Wilson, and the secretary of the Central Chancery, explaining his actions.

The letters were written on notepaper headed Bag Productions, the company Lennon had recently set up with Yoko Ono.



Your Majesty,

I am returning my MBE as a protest against Britain's involvement in the Nigeria-Biafra thing, against our support of America in Vietnam and against 'Cold Turkey' slipping down the charts.

With love. John Lennon of Bag



The action was predictably seized on by the media. Lennon gave an interview to David Bellan of BBC Radio Four in which he explained that he had been "mulling it over" for the past two years, and that the My Lai massacre carried out by the US Army in March 1968 had contributed to his decision.

He also said he had not consulted the other Beatles before returning his MBE, and that he had only accepted it after being persuaded by Brian Epstein.

The Beatles had each been awarded the Member of the Order of the British Empire in the Queen's 1965 birthday honours. The news was announced on 11 June that year, and the group received the awards at the palace on 26 October.

Lennon's MBE insignia was rediscovered in a royal vault in January 2009, 40 years after it was returned. It was stored at the Central Chancery of the Orders of Knighthood at St James's Palace, where it had been stored from its day of return. It was discovered still in its original presentation case alongside Lennon's letter to the Queen.

Need to find this video again.....

John Lennon - Project a positive future
John Lennon/Yoko Ono 10/13 The FINAL Interview

Part of the last interview John Lennon made Dec 8, 1980
We make the future we project.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ulghD5JkmU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pMpLyW9FEI

John Lennon - The Last Interview, 12/8/1980 Part 13

found a link:

http://704houser.blogspot.com/2009/12/john-lennon-last-interview-december-8.html
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JOHN: “But, well, I don’t know my history well enough to know how people got on in the past, you know? But when Marco Polo went to visit the Chinese no doubt it was risky leavin’ Rome.[Marco Polo was actually from Venice. A merchant, he traveled from Venice on an epic journey to Asia lasting 24 years - from 1269 until 1293] And goin’ through all those countries. And when Crusaders left – not as a mass army – but just as peasants getting’ up and trickling off across, they must have gone through...and of course, you're gonna come across some...maybe there’s always gonna be nuts, I don’t know. But still, the concept of imagining no countries, imagining no religion – not imagining no God, although you’re entitled to do that, too, you know? Imagine no denominations. Imagining that we revere Jesus Christ, Mohammed, Krishna, Melanippe [a figure from Greek mythology], equally – we don’t have to worship either one that we don’t have to, but imagine there’s no Catholic/Protestant. No Jew/Christian. That we allow all...we allow it all – freedom of religion for real, I mean. For real. Just imagine it? Would it be terrible?"

YOKO: “You see because, the point is, people like George Orwell [Orwell was a  British writer who opposed totalitarianism and supported democratic socialism] – and, by the way, incidentally – he’s a guy too. I mean, all these guys, have projected very negative views of the future. And, imagining a projection is a very strong magic power, you know?

I mean that...that’s the way society was created. And, so, because they’re setting up all these negative images, and of course, that’s gonna create the society.

So, we [in Imagine] were trying to create a more positive image.

Which is, of course, gonna set up another kind of society and, uh, you know, even in all this [John lights cigarette] we always had this human race dream, you know? Like, we always wanted to fly, so now we have planes, you know? And the next probably dream is wanted to be peaceful, so of course...”

JOHN: “Well, the other great dream of mankind, one was to fly – which might’ve taken us a long time, but it took somebody to imagine it first.

The second was reach the moon, right? Which we reached.

Now, sure, it was an American in an American rocket because that was the way history was at that time, but mankind reached the moon because they said, ‘one giant step for mankind’, it was for all of us...”

YOKO: “We were always saying, like, ‘wanting the moon’...”

JOHN: “...but nowadays even football players are doin’ it, right? Which we were doin’ then, which was projecting the future in a positive way.

And people said, ‘you’re naïve, you’re dumb, you’re stupid’, we didn’t...ok, it might’ve hurt us on a personal level to be called names, but what we were doin’ – you can call it magic, meditation, projection of goal – which business people do, they have courses on it.

The footballers do it. They pray, they meditate before the game. They visualize themselves winning. Billie Jean King visualizes every move of...on the court.

What we were doin’, we were early pioneers of that movement. Which is to project a future which we can have goals which we can reach. Right? People project their own future. So, what we wanted to do was say, ‘let’s imagine a nice future’ .

She’s [Yoko] right, the males like, even Aldous Huxley [Huxley was another British writer and proponent of psychedelic drugs; his other claim to fame was dying on the same day as President Kennedy's assassination in 1963; a fate he shared with writer C.W. Lewis; both authors' deaths were largely overshadowed by coverage of Kennedy's death] ] and George Orwell who produced 1984 you look into Orwell’s life it was all torture and this that and the other, and he was brought up in a certain environment and went into a male-dominated society full of Marxist stuff about Spain, and they were all from the thir...whatever, that period when they...when they had those dreams of socialism answering everything. Right?

And their dreams fell to dust after the war [World War II]. And then they wrote these books projecting this horrific, Big Brother, monsters controlled by robots and – even now – I think these people that project these space fantasies are projecting war in space continually, with women in mini-skirts, available sexual objects, men with super-macho John Wayne guns on their hips.

I’m sayin’ it’s time for the people to get hip to that, man. Because they’re projecting our future.

 Do we want to go...our children to be out in space, or our grandchildren fighting – maybe not Russians – but Venusians in space? You see?

If it works for a football player and a tennis player it can work for all of us.

We have to project a positive future.

I mean I think that’s what Christ and Mohammed and those people were saying in their way in their time for their society.”

Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: John Lennon: "..believed in Truth, and had dared to speak up"
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2010, 05:04:03 PM »
 I'm in south America, there is not a day that goes by I don't hear JL's music being played, the people here loved this man and his message.
  John was an ICON of peace, anti war, as were the others who were assassinated,JFK,RFK,MLK..

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Re: John Lennon: "..believed in Truth, and had dared to speak up"
« Reply #38 on: December 08, 2010, 06:38:33 PM »
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20101208/D9JVMVGG1.html
Rolling Stone releases Lennon's final interview
 Dec 8, 6:45 AM (ET)

By NEKESA MUMBI MOODY

NEW YORK (AP) - Three days before he was gunned down, John Lennon complained about his critics - saying they were just interested in "dead heroes" - and talked optimistically about his family and future, musing that he had "plenty of time" to accomplish some of his life goals

Lennon's final interview was released to The Associated Press by Rolling Stone on Wednesday, the 30th anniversary of the musician's death. The issue using the full interview will be on magazine stands on Friday. While brief excerpts of Jonathan Cott's interview with Lennon were released for a 1980 Rolling Stone cover story days after Lennon's death, this is the first time the entire interview has been published.
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The interview was originally planned for a cover story for Lennon and Ono's upcoming album "Double Fantasy," but in the rush to put out a story after Lennon was shot to death by Mark David Chapman, only snippets were used.

Cott said he never went back to the three hours worth of tapes until a few months ago when he was cleaning out his closet.

"On a strip of magnetic tape, it was sort of a miracle that first of all, the tape had not degraded after 30 years," he said. "All of this sudden, this guy's voice, totally alive ... just made me feel so inspired that I felt that I should really transcribe the whole thing."
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http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/68404/239168

The complete Q&A, which is running in the new issue of Rolling Stone — available on stands, as well as in the online archives — has never been published before now

Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole ; He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee. - Job 5

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Re: John Lennon: "..believed in Truth, and had dared to speak up"
« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2010, 07:46:39 PM »
"There's room at the top I'm telling you still. But first you must learn how to smile as you kill. If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

"From the minute you're born they make you feel small"
"I do not believe that there were, at the Council of Nicea,
three persons present who believed in the truth of what was set down.
If there were, it was on account of their ignorance."
J. M. Roberts, "Antiquity Unveiled", 1892