Calls from the planes not fake! Bush Reaction is!

[jimd3100]

Looking into these phone calls made from the flights, I am not only convinced they are not fake, they are actually potentially devastating evidence to the official story. Dismissing these calls as frauds is a major mistake.

"I see water. I see buildings. Oh My God!" -- Amy Sweeney Flight 11 Flight Attendant

Some folks, like to laugh at that along with The "You believe me don't you?"  From Mark Bingham on Flight 93. They laugh at it because it's so absurd that he would use his first and last name, and cell phones don't work from 40,000 feet anyway.

There is nothing funny here. This isn't a joke. These people are real, the calls are real and more importantly they are giving us valuable information.

But cell phones don't work from 40,000 feet!! That is irrelevant. It doesn't matter, The calls were not cell phone calls, they were airphone calls, including the "you believe me don't you", which was in reference to the plane being hijacked.

"BINGHAM then said, "I'm on a flight from Newark to San
Francisco and there are three guys who have taken over the plane, and
they say they have a bomb. I'm calling you from the air phone."

"......."You've got to believe me. It's true."
http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2001-09-19-FBI-FD302-mark-kendall-bingham2.pdf

There were a few cell phone calls made but they were few and toward the end of the flights when the plane was low. Dismissing these calls from the planes is a major mistake. It's a major mistake because National Security Adviser C Rice, Sec of Defense D Rumsfeld, V.P D Cheney, and President G Bush all pretend that despite repeated warnings all summer long of an impending attack in the Washington/ NY Area and the likelihood of planes being used, had no idea, we were under attack until both towers had been hit. In Rumsfelds case he didn't think we were under attack until the pentagon had been hit.

"Aubrey Davis of the Pentagon police was standing outside Donald Rumsfeld's
office on the third floor of the Pentagon's E ring. Inside, Rumsfeld, though
aware that the World Trade Center towers in New York had already been hit,
was proceeding with his regularly scheduled CIA briefing. Davis, on the other
hand, had concluded from watching TV news that the country was under attack and the pentagon might be a target." Page 1
http://www.amazon.com/Rumsfeld-Rise-Fall-Catastrophic-Legacy/dp/1416535748/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1241499607&sr=1-1

This is outrageous and absurd and the people on these planes have given us powerfull evidence that most of us have dismissed.

The flight attendants on Flight 11 ( the first flight) immediately called authorities not only telling them hijackers had taken over the plane but that people were being murdered. I want to stress, that this was well before any plane hit any building. The official story tells us that no one knew we were under attack until the second tower was hit. Our Sec of Defense didn't know, Rice didn't know and Bush didn't know. The facts seem to indicate otherwise.............

IMO....."If you believe the WTC was blown to kingdom come, you have no choice but to believe that before the plane flew into it, it was primed and ready for explosion. If it was already fitted with explosives, then there can be no risk of the plane not hitting it's target."....."Also, the first targets to be hit would be the WTC. It would be essential to hit them first to make sure they were hit., before any type of response could stop the operation, either from authorities or passengers."
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=103918.msg623603#msg623603

Study the actions of those involved in 9/11 and the everyday person was doing their job, in most cases in a heroic manner. That is until to you get to the Administration. The administration did absolutely nothing until both towers were already hit. "Mission Accomplished"

From the FBI investigation.....Amy Sweeney(I see water buildings Oh my god!) not so funny anymore. She said allot of other stuff too before any plane hit any building . This woman is a hero, and is giving us valuable evidence...

During the call MICHAEL WOODWARD, AA Flight Services
Manager, Boston, told her that he received a telephone call from AA
flight 11. The caller was flight attendant AMY SWEENY. According to
WOODWARD, SWEENY's call came from either a cell telephone or an air
phone on the aircraft.

The call from SWEENY was initially received by EVY NUNEZ,
manager on duty at AA Boston. NUNEZ became very distraught early in
the conversation; WOODWARD took over the call from NUNEZ.

SWEENY told WOODWARD that the flight had been hijacked and
the number one flight attendant had been stabbed. The number one
flight attendant was in the first class section of the aircraft. The
number five flight attendant had also been stabbed in the business
class section of the aircraft. According to SWEENY, the number five
attendant's injury was not life threatening. SWEENY also relayed that
one hijacker cut the throat of a passenger in business class. That
passenger was believed to have died as a result of his wound.

SWEENY believed there were three hijackers in the business
class section of the aircraft. All three hijackers were of Middle
Eastern decent. At least one of the hijackers spoke English very well.
The hijackers occupied seats number 9B, 9E, 9G, and 10C.

Sometime after 8:00 AM, <<redactedredacted>>told him that two flight attendants had been stabbed and were administered oxygen.

Shortly thereafter, the AA flight attendant AMY SWEENEY
called on the airphone from Flight 11 and stated the flight had been
hijacked. SWEENEY told WOODWARD the #1 attendant (KAREN MARTIN) and the #5 attendant (BOBBY ARUSTIGUE) has been stabbed. SWEENEY also
stated that a business class passenger was stabbed and a doctor and
nurse were caring for him. SWEENEY stated that three (3) hijackers
gained access to the cockpit and the flight crew could not gain
access or communicate with the pilots or the cockpit.

The hijackers were sitting in seats 10B,9C, and 9G or 9D
and 9G. SWEENEY described the hijackers as three Middle Eastern
males. One of the males spoke good English and another spoke poor
English.

As the conversation continued, SWEENEY told WOODWARD the
gentleman in business class is not going to make it because his
throat is slashed and he is bleeding severely. She said that she did
not think the captain was flying the plane. SWEENEY described how
they were flying low over the water, then said "OH my God" and the
call was terminated.

Before the plane crashed, SWEENEY stated that AA flight
attendant, BETTY ONG, was in' the last row of the coach section
talking to someone on the air phone.
http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2001-09-12-FBI-FD302-American-Airlines.pdf

And here is what ONG the other flight attendant was saying on that airphone call....

the individual who placed the call was a Flight Attendant named BETTY.
BETTY further identified herself as being Flight Attendant Number 3 on AA Flight 11.
Flight Attendant Number 3 was the AA designation for the attendant who serviced the coach section of the plane and was typically stationed in the rear of the aircraft. BETTY (LAST NAME UNKNOWN) (LNU) was questioned as to
whether there were any injuries. BETTY stated the individual who was
seated in 9B, further described as <<redacted>> appeared to be dead.

Flight Attendant Number 1 was stabbed and in serious condition.
Flight Attendant Number 1 had been placed on oxygen. Flight
Attendant Number 5 had also been stabbed, but was not described as
being in serious condition.

<<redacted>>listened as BETTY relayed that a passenger who was
seated in 10B was currently in the cockpit. This passenger's name was
provided and phonetically reported as SAMIR AL ASAQUAMI.
http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2001-09-12-FBI-FD302-betty-ong.pdf

I'm the Operations Specialist on duty at the time and
I would say at approximately 8:20, one of our
employees received a phone call from, from a flight
attendant on one of our flights. She answered the
call through our International Resolution Desk who in
turn hit the emergency button and at that time I
started listening on a call. The flight attendant's
name was BETTY ONG and she was relaying to us what
was happening on the aircraft.
http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2001-09-12-FBI-FD302-betty-ong-tape.pdf

Synopsis: Communication to advise recipients of telephone
conversation that took place between Flight Attendant Amy Sweeny,
American Airlines Flight #11, and Flight Services Manager Michael
Woodward during hijacking of American Airlines Flight 11.

Parties to this conversation were
Flight Attendant Amy Sweeny (on board Flight #11) and Base Manager
Michael Woodward (at Logan Airport). The conversation went generally
as follows:
Sweeny: "The plane has been hijacked ... flight attendant
number 5 from business class and flight attendant number 1 from first
class have both been stabbed ... a hijacker also cut the throat of a
business class passenger and he appears to be dead ... the hijackers
(four total) were all of middle eastern descent ... three were sitting
in business class ... one spoke English very well." Sweeny then
provided seat numbers 9B, 10C, 9G, and 9E as those being used by the
four hijackers.
http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2001-09-11-FBI-phone-conversation-record.pdf

So it's very clear we have a terrorist attack occurring on a commercial airliner. This is before any plane hit a building. People have to be notified now. It's going up the chain of command rapidly...

Timeline...
8:28 a.m.: The FAA's Boston Center calls FAA Command Center in Herndon, Virginia, and reports that American 11 has been hijacked.

8:37 a.m.: Boston Center informs NORAD of American 11's hijacking. It is the first notice the military receives of the unfolding events.

8:46 a.m.: In response to American 11's hijacking, Otis Air Force Base receives an order to scramble F-15s. Military officials ask for a destination for the fighter planes. None is known. At the same time of the order, American 11 crashes into the World Trade Center North Tower
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/911timeline.htm

Boston Center does a good job notifying the higher ups.

The person in charge of National Security is of course the National Security Adviser Condi Rice. When is she notified?

"Her Secretary appeared at the door at 8:45 am to say that a plane had hit the World Trade Center. What a strange accident. Condi thought. She called President Bush, who was in Florida speaking about his education agenda, and gave him the news. "What a weird accident," he said. Page 193
http://books.google.com/books?id=JALuisF9KdEC&pg=PA193&lpg=PA193&dq=rice+bush+weird+accident&source=bl&ots=L8MPvg7ny5&sig=IJoReqTqYWf_VNHkl8amjvcdTgA&hl=en&ei=HMIDSteSGc-Ltgf1zoSOBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1

Outrageous! Simply Outrageous. The chain of command has now reached the President but when it got to Condi..it's no longer a hijacking but an accident. In fact, we are supposed to believe no one told her about any hijacking at all.......later...

A short time later, Condi was in a staff meeting when her secretary walked in and handed her a note. A second plane had struck the other tower. In a flash she realized it was a terrorist attack. page 193

This story is repeated in another book.....
"Condi's executive assistant approached her and told her that a jet airliner had crashed into one of the two towers of the World Trade Center in New York City. Condi's first impression was that it was an accident, and she asked the reporting aide to keep her posted on how many casualties there were and any other relative information. She then called the President who was in Florida. After that she went to a staff meeting. In the middle of the meeting, Condi's executive assistant approached her again with a note that said that a second plane had hit the World Trade Center. That's when she knew it was a terrorist attack." page 472
http://books.google.com/books?id=HrteNHwTnPwC&pg=RA2-PA472&lpg=RA2-PA472&dq=%22condoleezza+rice%22+%22executive+assistant%22&source=bl&ots=Ci57J_HTk1&sig=hEY_VrhcHFuQMbQLuMj80NFMvlM&hl=en&ei=gsUDSu3UGY3YygXmvfXgBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6

Confirmed again she's told it's a commercial airliner...
"I got the first call standing by my desk getting ready to go to an educational event. When the first plane hit the World Trade Center, my assistant came in and said a plane has hit the World Trade Center, and I said what a strange accident. At first I thought it might even have been a small plane, but then he said, "no, it's a commercial plane."
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,587744,00.html

It's admitted that they know it was a commercial airliner. Who is this "executive assistant"? They are a military/intelligence person.

"Army Lieutenant Colonel Tony Crawford, an intelligence specialist and executive assistant to Rice"   page 301
http://books.google.com/books?id=19cBGuqwaQ0C&pg=PA301&lpg=PA301&dq=%22Tony+Crawford%22+rice&source=bl&ots=Tsgxxw_Out&sig=SnT_TlNORUyKqHH7wI6VQK0ZdMc&hl=en&ei=9iCoS4exOML6lweG85C8AQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CBAQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=%22Tony%20Crawford%22%20rice&f=false

Boston command knows, the FAA knows, the military knows it's a hijacking and they aren't telling Rice? That's the only other option here. Either this person can go to jail for Rice or answer some questions.

Rice notifies the President before he steps into the classroom.......

Mr. Bush was informed that a plane had hit the World Trade Center in a telephone conversation with Ms. Rice shortly before walking into a second-grade classroom at the Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota, Fla. White House officials said he knew only that it was a single aircraft and not necessarily a terrorist attack. The president did not appear preoccupied until a few moments later, around 9:05 a.m., when his chief of staff, Andrew H. Card Jr., entered the room and whispered into the president's ear about the second plane attack.
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/12/national/12BUSH.html?pagewanted=2

Here's Bush acting like how could he think it was a terrorist act, heck Karl Rove was telling him it was just a little plane...
"Bush's motorcade left for the school at 8:30 a.m. As it was arriving, pagers and cell phones alerted White House aides that a plane had hit the North Tower of the World Trade Center. Bush remembers senior adviser Karl Rove bringing him the news, saying it appeared to be an accident involving a small, twin-engine plane."

"In fact it was American Airlines Flight 11, a Boeing 767 out of Boston's Logan International Airport. Based on what he was told, Bush assumed it was an accident."

"This is pilot error," the president recalled saying. "It's unbelievable that somebody would do this." Conferring with Andrew H. Card Jr., his White House chief of staff, Bush said, "The guy must have had a heart attack."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/18/AR2006071801175_2.html

More outrageous lies....
"Press Secretary Ari Fleischer would be needed on arrival to discuss reports of some sort of crash. The radio also said that Mr. Bush had a call waiting for him at his holding room in the school from national security adviser Condoleezza Rice."

"Mr. Fleischer told the press what Ms. Rice told the president - a plane had just hit the World Trade Center. Nobody knew how serious the situation was."
http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/0917/p1s1-usgn.html

Bush was told by Condi it was a commercial Airliner....the only way they don't know what the FAA and the military already know, that it was a hijacking , is if that information was deliberately kept from them which is extremely unlikely...

by Mitch Stacy
The Associated Press
August 19, 2002
As President Bush's motorcade pulled up to Emma E. Booker Elementary School on the morning of Sept. 11, principal Gwen Tose'-Rigell fretted that the heavy limousine might dislodge paving bricks in the walkway outside the office.

Tose'-Rigell, 50, says she first knew something was amiss when Bush emerged from his car and was whisked into a special holding room to take a telephone call. Then she was summoned to the room to talk to the president.

"He said a commercial plane has hit the World Trade Center, and we're going to go ahead and go on, we're going on to do the reading thing anyway," Tose'-Rigell recalls. "At that point my summation was they wanted him to know about this because it was important, but it couldn't be anything huge."
http://s3.amazonaws.com/911timeline/2002/ap081902d.html

More Bush lies....
He said yesterday: "I saw an airplane hit the tower - the TV was obviously on -and I used to fly myself, and I said, 'There's one terrible pilot.' And I said, 'It must have been a horrible accident.'"

The story that he was watching TV contradicts reports from correspondents at the time that he got the news in a phone call from his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice. It also adds further puzzles: why he was being made to wait; why he did not at least delay his entry into the classroom; and why is it obvious that an elementary school would have a TV set in the corridor?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/dec/05/september11.usa

These calls from the plane are not only real. They were made by heroic people, and could put some people in prison. There is a massive amount of disinformation out there. And there is a reason for it.

[grapecrusher1]

Recently I heard G Edward Griffin state that Flight 93 (I am quite sure) was not equipped with airphones.  Regardless he definitely claimed that at least one of the planes didnt have airphones.

[jimd3100]

Recently I heard G Edward Griffin state that Flight 93 (I am quite sure) was not equipped with airphones.  Regardless he definitely claimed that at least one of the planes didn't have airphones.

I think you mean David Ray Griffin...when he was trying to convince people Ted Olson was a liar(another unnecessary move by truthers)in regards to flight 77.
BTW and this is important....He admitted he was wrong. They had airphones...

"DRG received two items suggesting that, although AA 757s did not have onboard phones in 2004, they probably did in 2001."..."DRG concluded that the claim that AA 77 had not had onboard phones was probably an error."
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/amrarticle.html#sdfootnote18sym

BTW that's what he gets for hanging around with "pilots 4 "truth'"  

[agentbluescreen]

Davis Griffon was merely pointing out that many of the reported calls from Flight 93 appeared to have been impossible to have been made since they were claimed to have been made by cellphones which don't work at flight altitudes.

At any rate Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld et al  have no excuse for the huge delays in US air defense response completely within the US ADIZ (AIR DEFENSE IDENTIFICATION ZONES  and directly in the skies above 54 active US military air bases.

US Air Defense Identification Zones:

This is the area by law the US military must always, 24/7 intercept any and all planes in within 10 minutes in accordance with the Code of Federal Regulations - Title 14 CFR 99.43.

This map was deleted from the FAA.gov website on Sept 15th 2001

http://www.angelfire.com/ny/syzergy/911-time.htm  (better color version there)

6:45*AM   Approximately *2 hours prior to the first attack, at least 2 workers at an Israeli-owned instant messaging company 'Odigo' receive widely distributed messages warning of an imminent WTC attack. No known authorities are alerted by any recipient.   Ok   Wash Post | Ha'aretz
7:45 AM   AA Flight 11 to depart Logan, for LA (delayed)   Ok   LA Times
7:58 AM   UAL Flight 175 to depart Logan for LA (delayed)   Ok   Wash Post
7:59 AM   Atta in AA Flight 11 calls Al-Shehhi in UAL Flight 175 over cell-phones as both planes sit on the runway to confirm plot? ["just before 8:00,"]   Ok   Time
7:59 AM   AA Flight 11 departs Logan for LA (14 min. delay)   Ok   CS Monitor | Wash Post | NY Daily News
8:01 AM   UAL Flight 93 to depart Newark for San Francisco (delayed)   Ok   Wash Post | NY Daily News
8:10 AM   AA Flight 77 to depart Dulles for LA (delayed)   Ok   CS Monitor | Wash Post | NY Daily News
8:13 AM
 Alert1   Pilot of AA Flight 11 acknowledges and turns right (north) in response to ATC instruction, but fails to respond to a climb instruction seconds later.   Ok   Boston Globe | NY Times
8:14 AM   AA Flight 11 under attack, between 8:13 and 8:20 "hijackers entry was surprising enough that the pilots didn't have a chance to broadcast an emergency distress call", - poorly located button, known to the hijackers, only takes a second to press.   Ok   Boston Globe
8:14 AM   UAL Flight 175 departs Logan for LA (16 min. delay)   Ok   CS Monitor | NY Times | CBS | AP | Wash Post | NY Daily News | airdisaster.com
8:15 AM   AA Flight 11 attendant Betty Ong calls AA American Airlines' Ops. Center manager Craig Marquis in Fort Worth: she tells of a passenger dead and a crewmember dying, the jet's path has changed and intruders are in the cockpit.{ slightly contradicts 8:21 time }   Ok?   USAToday
8:15 AM
 Alarm1   
Boston ATC fails to contact the pilots of AA Flight 11, even using emergency frequencies. Flight controller reports "He won't answer you. He's nordo roger". The radar designation transponder is now also off.
Ok   NY Times | CNN
8:20 AM   BOS ATC (and UAL Flight 175) overhear alarming radio message from AA Flight 11 "everyone stay in your seats" Every attempt still being made to regain radio contact, including nearby flights.   Ok   CS Monitor
8:20 AM   BOS ATC officially concludes that AA Flight 11 has been hijacked. Reports immediately to FAA and NEADS, according to regulations.   Ok   Newsday | NY Times
8:20 AM   AA Flight 77 departs Dulles for LA (10 min. delay)   Ok   Wash Post | Patriot Resource
8:21 AM   AA Flight 11 attendant Betty Ong calls AA American Airlines Reservations. Operations Center manager Craig Marquis in Fort Worth also recieves relayed reports: she tells of a passenger dead and a crewmember dying, the jet's path has changed and intruders are in the cockpit. Recorded-for-QC call lasts 25 minutes until crash.{ slightly contradicts 8:15 time }   Ok?   Boston Globe | ABC News
8:21 AM   AA Flight 11 attendant Sweeney also calls AA Ground Manager Woodward at Logan: 2 hijackers in cockpit, 2 attendants, passenger knifed, seat #s, names of hijackers copious details. Call also lasts 25 minutes, but not recorded.   OK   Boston Globe | ABC News
8:24 AM   UAL Flight 175 reports to ATC about AA Flight 11 radio traffic "heard a suspicious transmission on our departure from BOS, someone keyed the mike and said, 'Everyone stay in your seats.' " { Slightly contradicts 8:41 similar quote }   Ok?   airdisaster.com
8:24 AM   BOS ATC overhears another alarming radio message from Capt. Ogonowski's open mike on AA Flight 11 `We have some planes. Just stay quiet, and you'll be OK. We are returning to the airport. Everything will be OK. If you try to make any moves you'll endanger yourself and the airplane. Just stay quiet.' Cannot regain radio contact.   Ok   CBS | NY TImes | Boston Globe | Guardian
8:25 AM   BOS ATC informs other ATC centers (including nearby Otis) AA Flight 11 has been hijacked. FAA assigns a new, manual 'tag' to AA Flight 11's radar dot on ATC display system to substitute for it's missing transponder data.   Ok   Guardian | Village Voice
8:26 AM   UAL Flight 175, 12 minutes elapsed, transponder disappears from ATC radar. { Contradicts 8:37 and 8:42 reports. Major issue! }   ?   Post Gazette
8:28 AM   AA Flight 11, 29 minutes elapsed, 13 minutes since first alarm, already 40 miles (north) off course, still too low, veers sharply 100 degrees south, back towards Albany and NYC.   Ok   Wrongwaygoback | CS Monitor
8:28 AM   At AA Headquarters, "All eyes watched as the plane headed south. On the screen, the plane showed a squiggly line after its turn near Albany, then it straightened."   Ok   WSJ
8:28 AM   AA Flight 11 transponder disappears from ATC radar. { Contradicts 8:15 quote }   ?   Post Gazette
8:34 AM   ATC hear a hijacker on AA Flight 11 say to the passengers: "Nobody move, please, we are going back to the airport. Don't try to make any stupid moves." [8:33:59]   Ok   Guardian | NY Times
8:35 AM   Major Mike Snyder, NORAD Colorado, confirms reporting hijack alert awareness to Pentagon - NEADS, NORAD and Pentagon are apparently still just 'tuning-in' to their skies. No action is taken whatsoever.   Ok   NY Times | Boston Globe
8:37 AM   (BOS?) ATC Flight controllers allegedly ask the UAL Flight 175 pilots to look for a lost American Airlines plane 10 miles to the south, they supposedly respond that they can see it and are told to keep away from it. [8:37:08]. This crucial detail is absent in NY Times listing of the timed (NYC?) ATC transcript. { Conflicts with 8:26 report - that one has been assumed to be an error, unless their transponder was somehow shut off remotely! }   Ok   Guardian | NY Times
8:38 AM   FAA 'officially' alerts NORAD - NEADS Re AA Flight 11 hijack. Again, no action is taken.{ Since 8:20 this plane has been declared hijacked, and Otis has known of it since 8:25 }   Ok   Wash Post | Boston Globe | Patriot Resource
8:39 AM   ATC listen as Captain Ogonowski open mike on AA Flight 11 reports: "Don't do anything foolish -You're not going to be killed"   Ok   Wrongwaygoback
8:40 AM   AA Flight 11 attendant Sweeney calls AA official Woodward at Logan... { Contradicts 8:21 quote }   ?   Wrongwaygoback | LA Times
8:40 AM   F-15 Pilot claims that at this time, a "colleague" at the Otis Air National Guard Base says that a flight out of Boston has been hijacked, and to be on alert. He dons his flight gear and gets ready.   Ok   Cape Cod Times
8:41 AM   UAL Flight 175 reports to ATC about AA Flight 11 radio traffic "We figured we'd wait to go to your center. We heard a suspicious transmission on our departure out of Boston. Someone keyed the mike and said: 'Everyone stay in your seats.' It cut out." Contradicts exact same message 16 minutes ago, when it likely may have occured at 8:24 , but especially the 8:26 report and possibly the 8:37 discussions. At 8:42 it is apparently being hijacked - while it was still chatting with controllers? This occured much earlier, an in-control conflict is about to ensue about opening the cockpit doors to hijackers.}   Ok?   NY Times | CBS | AP | Guardian
8:42 AM   "Before" 8:43, Peter B Hanson calls his father from UAL Flight 175 and says, "Oh, my God! They just stabbed the airline hostess. I think the airline is being hijacked." Call cut off twice, he reports how men armed with knives were stabbing flight attendants, to force crew to unlock the doors to the cockpit.   Ok   Toronto Sun | BBC
8:42 AM   UAL Flight 93 departs Newark for San Francisco (41 min. delay)   Ok   CBS | AP | Wash Post | Patriot Resource | Newsweek | CNN | Guardian
8:42 AM
 Alert2   UAL Flight 175 veers from its official course. A flight controller says, "... looks like he's heading southbound but there's no transponder, no nothing and no one's talking to him." 27 minutes elapsed.   Ok   Boston Globe | NY Times
8:43 AM
 Alarm2   UAL Flight 175's transponder is turned back on, reprogrammed to an invalid flight ID, but is still sending the aircraft's speed and altitude "like a sore thumb" back to ground radars.   Ok   Wash Post
8:43 AM   FAA alerts NORAD - NEADS again, Re: UAL Flight 175 hijack   Ok   Wash Post | Patriot Resource
8:43 AM   Dispatcher at United's operations center sends email to all flights "Hijack alert. Beware, cockpit intrusion." UAL Flight 93 responds "Confirmed"   Ok   NY Times | CBS | AP
8:44 AM   Otis AFB ordered to scramble 2 Ready F-15 Fighters { Contradicts Norad itself at 8:46 }   ?   Boston Globe
8:44 AM   AA Flight 11 final voice from cockpit ``We have more planes, we have other planes,"   Ok   Wrongwaygoback
8:44 AM   Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, is talking about terrorism at the Pentagon. "Let me tell ya," he says, "I've been around the block a few times. There will be another event." He then repeats it for emphasis, "There will be another event."   Ok   AP
8:45 AM   AA Flight 11 Strikes First WTC Tower - 46 minutes elapsed, 25-32 minutes warning (8:13 - 8:20)   Ok   ABC | Wash Post | Boston Globe | CNN | NY Daily News | Wrongwaygoback
8:46 AM   Otis AFB commander orders pilots to scramble 2 ready F-15 Fighters. 26 minutes after alarm, apparently still without 'clearance' or orders from Pentagon, NORAD or NEADS   Ok   NORAD | Ch 4 News | CNN | Wash Post | Aviation Week & ST
8:46 AM   Three F16 jets out of Andrews AFB are flying an armed air-to-ground bombing joyride 'mission' on a range in North Carolina, 207 miles from DC. 26-31 minutes after alarm, NORAD or NEADS fail to contact them, instead, they finish practice and eventually return to Andrews! they were 19 mins from NYC, 10 mins from DC, but finally landed at Andrews around 9:40 AM   Ok   NORAD | Aviation Week & ST
8:46 AM   NORAD and NEADS, still on the phone with FAA/ATC/Otis since 8:25, claim they "could not find" AA Flight 11 or UAL Flight 175. American Airlines and FAA confirm Flights 11 and 175 were never 'lost'. Washington Post noted "Controllers scrambled to direct other planes out of the way of both" UAL Flight 175 and AA Flight 11, and several collisions were barely averted.   Ok   NORAD | Aviation Week & ST | Wash Post
8:46 AM
 Alert3   AA Flight 77 goes severely off course for 5 minutes. It heads north 15 miles for a while then U-turns south and gets back on course. 26 minutes elapsed   Ok   USA Today
8:46 AM   Otis F-15 Fighters Airborne { contradicts 8:46 'order' and 8:56 reports }   ?   Patriot Resource
8:50 AM   Unidentified pilot asks over aircraft band "Anybody know what the smoke is over Lower Manhattan?"   Ok   NY Times | CBS | AP
8:50 AM
 Alarm3   Unidentified pilot from AA Flight 77 briefly asks Controllers for clearance to fly higher, then contact is immediately lost with the flight already 5 miles off-course. 30 minutes elapsed.   Ok   Boston Globe | NY Times | Guardian
8:53 AM   Otis F-15 Fighters Airborne { maybe 1 airborne and tower-cleared since 8:46 }   ?   Wash Post
8:55 AM   AA Flight 77 transponder is shut off, it evidently turns back eastward near Kentucky-Ohio border, 35 minutes elapsed.   Ok   Wash Post
8:56 AM   ATC looses radio and transponder contact with AA Flight 77 "We called the company. They can't even get a hold of them,"   Ok   NY Times | CBS | AP
8:56 AM   Pentagon NORAD 'officials' now ready to admit some vague awareness of AA Flight 11, UAL Flight 175 and AA Flight 77 situations.   Ok   NY Times
8:56 AM   
2 Otis F-15 Fighters finally airborne. Originally ordered after AA Flight 11 (already crashed), they are now ordered to intercept UAL Flight 175
Ok   Boston Globe | NY Times
8:57 AM   ATC briefly "for several minutes" looses track of AA Flight 77 radar blip, expecting it to be west rather than east of it's previous position.   Ok   Newsday
9:00 AM   Dispatcher at United's operations center sends message to all flights "Beware, cockpit intrusion." { Contradicts 8:43 - more detail)   ?   Post Gazette
9:02 AM   NORAD - NEADS claims that they've now "found" UAL Flight 175. (presumably, on CNN)   Ok   Aviation Week & ST
9:03 AM   UAL Flight 175, Strikes Second WTC Tower, 49 minutes elapsed, 20-21 minutes warning. ( 8:42 - 8:43 ) 18 minutes at extraordinarily high alert.   Ok   CS Monitor | ABC | Boston Globe
9:03 AM   NY ATC Center Chief McCormick orders "We're declaring ATC zero," to all regional air traffic managers. Clearing the skies over the region.   Ok   USAToday
9:05 AM   President Bush interrupted by Karl Rove at Sarasota school address and updated about the progress of their pre-planned crisis, he stupidly returns to his political photo-op, listening to children read him stories about a goat. No action is taken.   Ok   AP | live-CNN
9:06 AM   NY police radio announces "this is a terrorist attack, notify the Pentagon" - again, no action is taken.   Ok   NY Daily News
9:09 AM   Bush notified in Sarasota {minor error}   ?   Wrongwaygoback
9:10 AM   Unidentified blip aquired by West Virginia FAA radar heading east. Three F16 fighters just a few miles away over in North Carolina on a morning romp are not contacted.(this was AA Flight 77)   Ok   Newsday
9:10 AM   AA Flight 77 identified on WV FAA radar heading east.   Ok   Wash Post | Wrongwaygoback
9:12 AM   Barbara Olsen on AA Flight 77 1st call husband: "Our plane is being hijacked." - forced passengers/pilot to rear.   Ok   Wrongwaygoback
9:15 AM   By this time, FAA HQ in Herndon Va. has identified AA Flight 77 and added it to the list of possibly hijacked flights on a hastily-erected white board.   Ok   USAToday
9:17 AM   FAA shuts down NYC Airports   Ok   CNN | Wrongwaygoback
9:19 AM   AP reports FBI investigating reports of hijackings   Ok   NY Daily News | Wrongwaygoback
9:20 AM   Passengers on UAL Flight 93 begin desperate series of phone calls as hijack underway   Ok   Post Gazette
9:24 AM   FAA alerts NORAD - NEADS Re: AA Flight 77 hijack, "headed back towards Washington"   Ok   Wash Post | Patriot Resource | Guardian | CNN | NORAD
9:24 AM   Unable to delay any longer, Langley Alert Siren finally sounds. 2 ready pilots proceed to 'standby' in their aircraft. Other aircraft under their control a few miles away and already airborne on current training missions are deliberately kept in the dark.   Ok   Book - Among the Heroes
9:25 AM   Barbara Olsen on AA Flight 77 2nd call: hijackers used "knives and cardboard cutters"   Ok    | Wrongwaygoback
9:25 AM   Now an authority on storybook goats and a half hour too late, as if he were a deliberate co-plotter, the sleepy President Bush finally gets around to ordering DEFCON 3   Ok   Boston Globe
9:25 AM   FAA orders full continental aviation Groundstop   Ok   ABC | Patriot Resource | USAToday
9:25 AM   Langley F-16's "scrambled". Also NORAD tries to put this event at 9:30 but pilot tells the real story!   Ok   Wash Post
9:28 AM   Jeremy Glick on UAL Flight 93 informed of rash of hijackings, WTC and Pentagon attacks by Airphone   Ok   Post Gazette
9:28 AM
 Alert4   ATC hears "get out of here" and background noise disturbance from UAL Flight 93 radio, looses contact.   Ok   CBS | AP | Post Gazette
9:29+ AM   ATC controller at Dulles reports unidentified transponderless flight on radar, heading toward downtown Washington, making almost 500 mph. to FAA   Ok   USAToday
9:30 AM   President Bush announces "Terrorist Attack" at Sarasota.   Ok   CNN | NY Daily News | Patriot Resource
9:30 AM   Approximate - 9:35. NORAD phones Langley, orders 3 jets airborne ASAP, 3rd pilot-commander "Honey" suits-up, estimates takeoffs at 9:40 - 9:45. They are to intercept AA Flight 77, erroneously presumed to also be heading north up to New York!   Ok   Book - Among the Heroes
9:34 AM   ATC radio picks up transmission from UAL Flight 93 "we have a bomb, we are returning to the airport". 52 minutes elapsed   Ok   Post Gazette
9:35 AM
 Alarm4   UAL Flight 93 begins turn around near Cleveland.   Ok   Post Gazette
9:35 AM   Langley F-16's Airborne.   Ok   Wash Post | Patriot Resource
9:36 AM   Reagan National ATC, over open channel, orders (panic?) a nearby C-130 cargo plane (no less) Flight Golfer 06, that has just departed nearby Andrews AFB, to divert to identify and intercept AA Flight 77 which approaching the Capitol close to it's path.   Ok   Guardian | NY Times
9:36 AM   AA Flight 77 headed downtown at top speed (500+ mph), crosses the beltway and then suddenly, upon spotting the C-130, executes a sharp 7000 ft descending turn ditching towards the Pentagon, loosing vital airspeed. {'eventually clipping nearby street lamps' in CBS account. Around '9:35' in USAToday }   Ok   CBS | USAToday
9:37 AM   AA Flight 77 Strikes Pentagon {Obvious early reports error.}   ?    Newsday | Wash Post
9:39 AM   UAL Flight 93 radio transmission "around this time" heard by ATC "Hi, this is the captain. We'd like you all to remain seated. There is a bomb on board. And we are going to turn back to the airport. And they had our demands, so please remain quiet." {Hazy conflict with 9:34}   Ok?   Boston Globe
9:40 AM   AA Flight 77 Strikes Pentagon {minor-rounding?}   ?   Wash Post | Boston Globe | Patriot Resource
9:40 AM   FAA orders full aviation Groundstop (wrong)   ?   CNN | Wrongwaygoback
9:41 AM   Apparently ignoring the Shrubbo's DEFCON 3, Secretary of 'Defense' Rumsfeld is lounging in the Pentagon, but supposedly completely oblivious of the approaching AA Flight 77 which was apparently intended for the Capitol. As he watches TV coverage of WTC, he says, "Believe me, this isn't over yet. There's going to be another attack, and it could be us." apparently, "moments later, the plane hit."   Ok   Telegraph
9:41 AM   AA Flight 77 Strikes Pentagon, 81 minutes elapsed, 50-55 minutes warning! (8:46 - 8:50) 57 minutes at extraordinarily high alert. May have overheard National ATC order to C-130, spotted it and diverted there at last minute. {up to 9:43 also given, but [9:41:30] all tapes. It was a poor shot, obviously not well planned, for if it had crashed at the right angle into top of the inner ring through to the lower floors/ring of the opposite side, firefighters could never have reached the internally-contained fires.}   Ok    | NY Times | MSNBC | CBS - CNN - ABC news footage
9:45 AM   Airphone Operator receives report that UAL Flight 93 hijacked.   Ok   Patriot Resource
9:45 AM   Capitol and White House evacuates.   Ok   Wash Post | CNN | NY Daily News | Patriot Resource
9:45 AM   Langley F-16's reach Washington DC.   ?   Patriot Resource
9:49 AM   FAA orders full aviation Groundstop. (way wrong)   ?   Wash Post | NY Daily News
9:55 AM   (2-3 minutes) Military aide in White House bunker, to VP, "There is a plane 80 miles out. There is a fighter in the area. Should we engage?" (Otis F-15s?) VP (now ACIC) immediately answers "Yes." As the fighter gets nearer to UAL Flight 93, he is asked the same thing twice more, and responds yes both times.   Ok   Wash Post
9:58 AM   Airphone Operator receives last report from the indomitable heroes of UAL Flight 93 "Let's Roll".   Ok   Wrongwaygoback
10:00 AM   Langley F-16s Arrive Washington DC. At top speed, (1600 mph) they could have made the hop in 4.5 minutes. They were ordered to go to New York, (at 1100 mph.) instead of Washington. They spotted the Pentagon smoke, then were diverted there afterwards!   Ok   Boston Globe | Book - Among the Heroes
10:03 AM   2 F-16's reported closely tailing UAL Flight 93 by CBS. NH flight controller reports: "that an F-16 fighter closely pursued UAL Flight 93... the F-16 made 360-degree turns to remain close to the commercial jet, the employee said. 'He must've seen the whole thing,' the employee said of the F-16 pilot's view of UAL Flight 93's crash."   Ok   CBS | Nashua Tel | AP
Consistent with the overhead sighting, circle for side approach interception, move above forward to drop in front and do wing tilt, circle back to rear to kill pattern. However, no ground observer reports any military plane near the stricken flight at higher or lower altitudes, though some heard missiles and/or extra booms, and saw smaller, 'white' jet aircraft soon after the crash.
10:03 AM   Official time that UAL Flight 93 was terminated, matches CVR recording transcript-time, which ends with a 60-90 sec-long whooshing sound, confirmed between screams over open telephone lines. {Most certainly some serious destruction of the aircrafts cabin pressurization is evidenced by this sound, clear evidence of an air to air missile attack.}   Ok    SF Chron | NORAD | CNN
10:06 AM   Remains of UAL Flight 93 crash in Somerset PA, 40 minutes elapsed, 31-38 minutes warning. (9:28 - 9:35) 1:21 minutes at extraordinarily high alert. 10:06:05   Ok   NY Daily News | US Army Seismic records.
{ Smaller debris fields out at 8, then 3 and 2 miles, and an engine just 2000 yards beyond the crash site, and clearly consistent with heat-seeking missile scenario, rapidly slowed decompression debris, wing separation, fuselage damage - crash }   Ok    Independent | Phil Daily News | CBS
10:10 AM   UAL Flight 93 crashes in Somerset PA. 44 minutes elapsed, 35-42 minutes warning.   Ok?   Wash Post | CNN |MSNBC | NORAD | NY Times | Guardian | CBS | Boston Globe
10:37 AM   UAL Flight 93 crash in Somerset PA confirmed by FAA   Ok   ABC | Patriot Resource

[jimd3100]

There is no point in the "NWO" farting around with "voice morphing" technology in order to call victims families to f**k with them. It's just silly and insulting to the familes. "But Jimd3100 they did that to convince people that there were hijackers". Sorry. That's just stupid. Of course there were hijackers.
the CIA were tracking them and Price Bandar and his agents were helping them, they were needed to be patsies.
And they didn't need to do that to convince anyone, and they sure the hell wouldn't be pretending to be flight attendants calling HQ as soon as it happens.

Understand what this means.There is no way around it that I can see.
The only people who know for sure that an airliner is what hit the first tower are the Federal Authorities, because these flight attendants were telling them. Even the news reports were wondering if it was a big plane or small or what. This is important. The only way that President Bush or Condi Rice would know for sure it was a commercial Airliner is if they were officially told by the authorities who knew it was hijacked, not an accident.


Timeline...
8:28 a.m.: The FAA's Boston Center calls FAA Command Center in Herndon, Virginia, and reports that American 11 has been hijacked.

8:37 a.m.: Boston Center informs NORAD of American 11's hijacking. It is the first notice the military receives of the unfolding events.

8:46 a.m.: In response to American 11's hijacking, Otis Air Force Base receives an order to scramble F-15s. Military officials ask for a destination for the fighter planes. None is known. At the same time of the order, American 11 crashes into the World Trade Center North Tower
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/911timeline.htm

"Her Secretary appeared at the door at 8:45 am to say that a plane had hit the World Trade Center. What a strange accident. Condi thought.
http://books.google.com/books?id=JALuisF9KdEC&pg=PA193&lpg=PA193&dq=rice+bush+weird+accident&source=bl&ots=L8MPvg7ny5&sig=IJoReqTqYWf_VNHkl8amjvcdTgA&hl=en&ei=HMIDSteSGc-Ltgf1zoSOBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1

"I got the first call standing by my desk getting ready to go to an educational event. When the first plane hit the World Trade Center, my assistant came in and said a plane has hit the World Trade Center, and I said what a strange accident. At first I thought it might even have been a small plane, but then he said, "no, it's a commercial plane."
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,587744,00.html

It's a fact. She was briefed. No way around it. She knows it's a commercial Jet.

Tose'-Rigell, 50, says she first knew something was amiss when Bush emerged from his car and was whisked into a special holding room to take a telephone call. Then she was summoned to the room to talk to the president.

"He said a commercial plane has hit the World Trade Center, and we're going to go ahead and go on, we're going on to do the reading thing anyway," Tose'-Rigell recalls. "At that point my summation was they wanted him to know about this because it was important, but it couldn't be anything huge."
http://s3.amazonaws.com/911timeline/2002/ap081902d.html

They knew 9/11 was under way. There's no way around it. And then pretended not to know, to make sure the towers were hit.

[jimd3100]

Davis Griffon was merely pointing out that many of the reported calls from Flight 93 appeared to have been impossible to have been made since they were claimed to have been made by cellphones which don't work at flight altitudes.

At any rate Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld et al  have no excuse for the huge delays in US air defense response completely within the US ADIZ (AIR DEFENSE IDENTIFICATION ZONES  and directly in the skies above 54 active US military air bases.

US Air Defense Identification Zones:

This is the area by law the US military must always, 24/7 intercept any and all planes in within 10 minutes in accordance with the Code of Federal Regulations - Title 14 CFR 99.43.

This map was deleted from the FAA.gov website on Sept 15th 2001

http://www.angelfire.com/ny/syzergy/911-time.htm  (better color version there)

6:45*AM   Approximately *2 hours prior to the first attack, at least 2 workers at an Israeli-owned instant messaging company 'Odigo' receive widely distributed messages warning of an imminent WTC attack. No known authorities are alerted by any recipient.   Ok   Wash Post | Ha'aretz
7:45 AM   AA Flight 11 to depart Logan, for LA (delayed)   Ok   LA Times
7:58 AM   UAL Flight 175 to depart Logan for LA (delayed)   Ok   Wash Post
7:59 AM   Atta in AA Flight 11 calls Al-Shehhi in UAL Flight 175 over cell-phones as both planes sit on the runway to confirm plot? ["just before 8:00,"]   Ok   Time
7:59 AM   AA Flight 11 departs Logan for LA (14 min. delay)   Ok   CS Monitor | Wash Post | NY Daily News
8:01 AM   UAL Flight 93 to depart Newark for San Francisco (delayed)   Ok   Wash Post | NY Daily News
8:10 AM   AA Flight 77 to depart Dulles for LA (delayed)   Ok   CS Monitor | Wash Post | NY Daily News
8:13 AM
 Alert1   Pilot of AA Flight 11 acknowledges and turns right (north) in response to ATC instruction, but fails to respond to a climb instruction seconds later.   Ok   Boston Globe | NY Times
8:14 AM   AA Flight 11 under attack, between 8:13 and 8:20 "hijackers entry was surprising enough that the pilots didn't have a chance to broadcast an emergency distress call", - poorly located button, known to the hijackers, only takes a second to press.   Ok   Boston Globe
8:14 AM   UAL Flight 175 departs Logan for LA (16 min. delay)   Ok   CS Monitor | NY Times | CBS | AP | Wash Post | NY Daily News | airdisaster.com
8:15 AM   AA Flight 11 attendant Betty Ong calls AA American Airlines' Ops. Center manager Craig Marquis in Fort Worth: she tells of a passenger dead and a crewmember dying, the jet's path has changed and intruders are in the cockpit.{ slightly contradicts 8:21 time }   Ok?   USAToday
8:15 AM
 Alarm1   
Boston ATC fails to contact the pilots of AA Flight 11, even using emergency frequencies. Flight controller reports "He won't answer you. He's nordo roger". The radar designation transponder is now also off.
Ok   NY Times | CNN
8:20 AM   BOS ATC (and UAL Flight 175) overhear alarming radio message from AA Flight 11 "everyone stay in your seats" Every attempt still being made to regain radio contact, including nearby flights.   Ok   CS Monitor
8:20 AM   BOS ATC officially concludes that AA Flight 11 has been hijacked. Reports immediately to FAA and NEADS, according to regulations.   Ok   Newsday | NY Times
8:20 AM   AA Flight 77 departs Dulles for LA (10 min. delay)   Ok   Wash Post | Patriot Resource
8:21 AM   AA Flight 11 attendant Betty Ong calls AA American Airlines Reservations. Operations Center manager Craig Marquis in Fort Worth also recieves relayed reports: she tells of a passenger dead and a crewmember dying, the jet's path has changed and intruders are in the cockpit. Recorded-for-QC call lasts 25 minutes until crash.{ slightly contradicts 8:15 time }   Ok?   Boston Globe | ABC News
8:21 AM   AA Flight 11 attendant Sweeney also calls AA Ground Manager Woodward at Logan: 2 hijackers in cockpit, 2 attendants, passenger knifed, seat #s, names of hijackers copious details. Call also lasts 25 minutes, but not recorded.   OK   Boston Globe | ABC News
8:24 AM   UAL Flight 175 reports to ATC about AA Flight 11 radio traffic "heard a suspicious transmission on our departure from BOS, someone keyed the mike and said, 'Everyone stay in your seats.' " { Slightly contradicts 8:41 similar quote }   Ok?   airdisaster.com
8:24 AM   BOS ATC overhears another alarming radio message from Capt. Ogonowski's open mike on AA Flight 11 `We have some planes. Just stay quiet, and you'll be OK. We are returning to the airport. Everything will be OK. If you try to make any moves you'll endanger yourself and the airplane. Just stay quiet.' Cannot regain radio contact.   Ok   CBS | NY TImes | Boston Globe | Guardian
8:25 AM   BOS ATC informs other ATC centers (including nearby Otis) AA Flight 11 has been hijacked. FAA assigns a new, manual 'tag' to AA Flight 11's radar dot on ATC display system to substitute for it's missing transponder data.   Ok   Guardian | Village Voice
8:26 AM   UAL Flight 175, 12 minutes elapsed, transponder disappears from ATC radar. { Contradicts 8:37 and 8:42 reports. Major issue! }   ?   Post Gazette
8:28 AM   AA Flight 11, 29 minutes elapsed, 13 minutes since first alarm, already 40 miles (north) off course, still too low, veers sharply 100 degrees south, back towards Albany and NYC.   Ok   Wrongwaygoback | CS Monitor
8:28 AM   At AA Headquarters, "All eyes watched as the plane headed south. On the screen, the plane showed a squiggly line after its turn near Albany, then it straightened."   Ok   WSJ
8:28 AM   AA Flight 11 transponder disappears from ATC radar. { Contradicts 8:15 quote }   ?   Post Gazette
8:34 AM   ATC hear a hijacker on AA Flight 11 say to the passengers: "Nobody move, please, we are going back to the airport. Don't try to make any stupid moves." [8:33:59]   Ok   Guardian | NY Times
8:35 AM   Major Mike Snyder, NORAD Colorado, confirms reporting hijack alert awareness to Pentagon - NEADS, NORAD and Pentagon are apparently still just 'tuning-in' to their skies. No action is taken whatsoever.   Ok   NY Times | Boston Globe
8:37 AM   (BOS?) ATC Flight controllers allegedly ask the UAL Flight 175 pilots to look for a lost American Airlines plane 10 miles to the south, they supposedly respond that they can see it and are told to keep away from it. [8:37:08]. This crucial detail is absent in NY Times listing of the timed (NYC?) ATC transcript. { Conflicts with 8:26 report - that one has been assumed to be an error, unless their transponder was somehow shut off remotely! }   Ok   Guardian | NY Times
8:38 AM   FAA 'officially' alerts NORAD - NEADS Re AA Flight 11 hijack. Again, no action is taken.{ Since 8:20 this plane has been declared hijacked, and Otis has known of it since 8:25 }   Ok   Wash Post | Boston Globe | Patriot Resource
8:39 AM   ATC listen as Captain Ogonowski open mike on AA Flight 11 reports: "Don't do anything foolish -You're not going to be killed"   Ok   Wrongwaygoback
8:40 AM   AA Flight 11 attendant Sweeney calls AA official Woodward at Logan... { Contradicts 8:21 quote }   ?   Wrongwaygoback | LA Times
8:40 AM   F-15 Pilot claims that at this time, a "colleague" at the Otis Air National Guard Base says that a flight out of Boston has been hijacked, and to be on alert. He dons his flight gear and gets ready.   Ok   Cape Cod Times
8:41 AM   UAL Flight 175 reports to ATC about AA Flight 11 radio traffic "We figured we'd wait to go to your center. We heard a suspicious transmission on our departure out of Boston. Someone keyed the mike and said: 'Everyone stay in your seats.' It cut out." Contradicts exact same message 16 minutes ago, when it likely may have occured at 8:24 , but especially the 8:26 report and possibly the 8:37 discussions. At 8:42 it is apparently being hijacked - while it was still chatting with controllers? This occured much earlier, an in-control conflict is about to ensue about opening the cockpit doors to hijackers.}   Ok?   NY Times | CBS | AP | Guardian
8:42 AM   "Before" 8:43, Peter B Hanson calls his father from UAL Flight 175 and says, "Oh, my God! They just stabbed the airline hostess. I think the airline is being hijacked." Call cut off twice, he reports how men armed with knives were stabbing flight attendants, to force crew to unlock the doors to the cockpit.   Ok   Toronto Sun | BBC
8:42 AM   UAL Flight 93 departs Newark for San Francisco (41 min. delay)   Ok   CBS | AP | Wash Post | Patriot Resource | Newsweek | CNN | Guardian
8:42 AM
 Alert2   UAL Flight 175 veers from its official course. A flight controller says, "... looks like he's heading southbound but there's no transponder, no nothing and no one's talking to him." 27 minutes elapsed.   Ok   Boston Globe | NY Times
8:43 AM
 Alarm2   UAL Flight 175's transponder is turned back on, reprogrammed to an invalid flight ID, but is still sending the aircraft's speed and altitude "like a sore thumb" back to ground radars.   Ok   Wash Post
8:43 AM   FAA alerts NORAD - NEADS again, Re: UAL Flight 175 hijack   Ok   Wash Post | Patriot Resource
8:43 AM   Dispatcher at United's operations center sends email to all flights "Hijack alert. Beware, cockpit intrusion." UAL Flight 93 responds "Confirmed"   Ok   NY Times | CBS | AP
8:44 AM   Otis AFB ordered to scramble 2 Ready F-15 Fighters { Contradicts Norad itself at 8:46 }   ?   Boston Globe
8:44 AM   AA Flight 11 final voice from cockpit ``We have more planes, we have other planes,"   Ok   Wrongwaygoback
8:44 AM   Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, is talking about terrorism at the Pentagon. "Let me tell ya," he says, "I've been around the block a few times. There will be another event." He then repeats it for emphasis, "There will be another event."   Ok   AP
8:45 AM   AA Flight 11 Strikes First WTC Tower - 46 minutes elapsed, 25-32 minutes warning (8:13 - 8:20)   Ok   ABC | Wash Post | Boston Globe | CNN | NY Daily News | Wrongwaygoback
8:46 AM   Otis AFB commander orders pilots to scramble 2 ready F-15 Fighters. 26 minutes after alarm, apparently still without 'clearance' or orders from Pentagon, NORAD or NEADS   Ok   NORAD | Ch 4 News | CNN | Wash Post | Aviation Week & ST
8:46 AM   Three F16 jets out of Andrews AFB are flying an armed air-to-ground bombing joyride 'mission' on a range in North Carolina, 207 miles from DC. 26-31 minutes after alarm, NORAD or NEADS fail to contact them, instead, they finish practice and eventually return to Andrews! they were 19 mins from NYC, 10 mins from DC, but finally landed at Andrews around 9:40 AM   Ok   NORAD | Aviation Week & ST
8:46 AM   NORAD and NEADS, still on the phone with FAA/ATC/Otis since 8:25, claim they "could not find" AA Flight 11 or UAL Flight 175. American Airlines and FAA confirm Flights 11 and 175 were never 'lost'. Washington Post noted "Controllers scrambled to direct other planes out of the way of both" UAL Flight 175 and AA Flight 11, and several collisions were barely averted.   Ok   NORAD | Aviation Week & ST | Wash Post
8:46 AM
 Alert3   AA Flight 77 goes severely off course for 5 minutes. It heads north 15 miles for a while then U-turns south and gets back on course. 26 minutes elapsed   Ok   USA Today
8:46 AM   Otis F-15 Fighters Airborne { contradicts 8:46 'order' and 8:56 reports }   ?   Patriot Resource
8:50 AM   Unidentified pilot asks over aircraft band "Anybody know what the smoke is over Lower Manhattan?"   Ok   NY Times | CBS | AP
8:50 AM
 Alarm3   Unidentified pilot from AA Flight 77 briefly asks Controllers for clearance to fly higher, then contact is immediately lost with the flight already 5 miles off-course. 30 minutes elapsed.   Ok   Boston Globe | NY Times | Guardian
8:53 AM   Otis F-15 Fighters Airborne { maybe 1 airborne and tower-cleared since 8:46 }   ?   Wash Post
8:55 AM   AA Flight 77 transponder is shut off, it evidently turns back eastward near Kentucky-Ohio border, 35 minutes elapsed.   Ok   Wash Post
8:56 AM   ATC looses radio and transponder contact with AA Flight 77 "We called the company. They can't even get a hold of them,"   Ok   NY Times | CBS | AP
8:56 AM   Pentagon NORAD 'officials' now ready to admit some vague awareness of AA Flight 11, UAL Flight 175 and AA Flight 77 situations.   Ok   NY Times
8:56 AM   
2 Otis F-15 Fighters finally airborne. Originally ordered after AA Flight 11 (already crashed), they are now ordered to intercept UAL Flight 175
Ok   Boston Globe | NY Times
8:57 AM   ATC briefly "for several minutes" looses track of AA Flight 77 radar blip, expecting it to be west rather than east of it's previous position.   Ok   Newsday
9:00 AM   Dispatcher at United's operations center sends message to all flights "Beware, cockpit intrusion." { Contradicts 8:43 - more detail)   ?   Post Gazette
9:02 AM   NORAD - NEADS claims that they've now "found" UAL Flight 175. (presumably, on CNN)   Ok   Aviation Week & ST
9:03 AM   UAL Flight 175, Strikes Second WTC Tower, 49 minutes elapsed, 20-21 minutes warning. ( 8:42 - 8:43 ) 18 minutes at extraordinarily high alert.   Ok   CS Monitor | ABC | Boston Globe
9:03 AM   NY ATC Center Chief McCormick orders "We're declaring ATC zero," to all regional air traffic managers. Clearing the skies over the region.   Ok   USAToday
9:05 AM   President Bush interrupted by Karl Rove at Sarasota school address and updated about the progress of their pre-planned crisis, he stupidly returns to his political photo-op, listening to children read him stories about a goat. No action is taken.   Ok   AP | live-CNN
9:06 AM   NY police radio announces "this is a terrorist attack, notify the Pentagon" - again, no action is taken.   Ok   NY Daily News
9:09 AM   Bush notified in Sarasota {minor error}   ?   Wrongwaygoback
9:10 AM   Unidentified blip aquired by West Virginia FAA radar heading east. Three F16 fighters just a few miles away over in North Carolina on a morning romp are not contacted.(this was AA Flight 77)   Ok   Newsday
9:10 AM   AA Flight 77 identified on WV FAA radar heading east.   Ok   Wash Post | Wrongwaygoback
9:12 AM   Barbara Olsen on AA Flight 77 1st call husband: "Our plane is being hijacked." - forced passengers/pilot to rear.   Ok   Wrongwaygoback
9:15 AM   By this time, FAA HQ in Herndon Va. has identified AA Flight 77 and added it to the list of possibly hijacked flights on a hastily-erected white board.   Ok   USAToday
9:17 AM   FAA shuts down NYC Airports   Ok   CNN | Wrongwaygoback
9:19 AM   AP reports FBI investigating reports of hijackings   Ok   NY Daily News | Wrongwaygoback
9:20 AM   Passengers on UAL Flight 93 begin desperate series of phone calls as hijack underway   Ok   Post Gazette
9:24 AM   FAA alerts NORAD - NEADS Re: AA Flight 77 hijack, "headed back towards Washington"   Ok   Wash Post | Patriot Resource | Guardian | CNN | NORAD
9:24 AM   Unable to delay any longer, Langley Alert Siren finally sounds. 2 ready pilots proceed to 'standby' in their aircraft. Other aircraft under their control a few miles away and already airborne on current training missions are deliberately kept in the dark.   Ok   Book - Among the Heroes
9:25 AM   Barbara Olsen on AA Flight 77 2nd call: hijackers used "knives and cardboard cutters"   Ok    | Wrongwaygoback
9:25 AM   Now an authority on storybook goats and a half hour too late, as if he were a deliberate co-plotter, the sleepy President Bush finally gets around to ordering DEFCON 3   Ok   Boston Globe
9:25 AM   FAA orders full continental aviation Groundstop   Ok   ABC | Patriot Resource | USAToday
9:25 AM   Langley F-16's "scrambled". Also NORAD tries to put this event at 9:30 but pilot tells the real story!   Ok   Wash Post
9:28 AM   Jeremy Glick on UAL Flight 93 informed of rash of hijackings, WTC and Pentagon attacks by Airphone   Ok   Post Gazette
9:28 AM
 Alert4   ATC hears "get out of here" and background noise disturbance from UAL Flight 93 radio, looses contact.   Ok   CBS | AP | Post Gazette
9:29+ AM   ATC controller at Dulles reports unidentified transponderless flight on radar, heading toward downtown Washington, making almost 500 mph. to FAA   Ok   USAToday
9:30 AM   President Bush announces "Terrorist Attack" at Sarasota.   Ok   CNN | NY Daily News | Patriot Resource
9:30 AM   Approximate - 9:35. NORAD phones Langley, orders 3 jets airborne ASAP, 3rd pilot-commander "Honey" suits-up, estimates takeoffs at 9:40 - 9:45. They are to intercept AA Flight 77, erroneously presumed to also be heading north up to New York!   Ok   Book - Among the Heroes
9:34 AM   ATC radio picks up transmission from UAL Flight 93 "we have a bomb, we are returning to the airport". 52 minutes elapsed   Ok   Post Gazette
9:35 AM
 Alarm4   UAL Flight 93 begins turn around near Cleveland.   Ok   Post Gazette
9:35 AM   Langley F-16's Airborne.   Ok   Wash Post | Patriot Resource
9:36 AM   Reagan National ATC, over open channel, orders (panic?) a nearby C-130 cargo plane (no less) Flight Golfer 06, that has just departed nearby Andrews AFB, to divert to identify and intercept AA Flight 77 which approaching the Capitol close to it's path.   Ok   Guardian | NY Times
9:36 AM   AA Flight 77 headed downtown at top speed (500+ mph), crosses the beltway and then suddenly, upon spotting the C-130, executes a sharp 7000 ft descending turn ditching towards the Pentagon, loosing vital airspeed. {'eventually clipping nearby street lamps' in CBS account. Around '9:35' in USAToday }   Ok   CBS | USAToday
9:37 AM   AA Flight 77 Strikes Pentagon {Obvious early reports error.}   ?    Newsday | Wash Post
9:39 AM   UAL Flight 93 radio transmission "around this time" heard by ATC "Hi, this is the captain. We'd like you all to remain seated. There is a bomb on board. And we are going to turn back to the airport. And they had our demands, so please remain quiet." {Hazy conflict with 9:34}   Ok?   Boston Globe
9:40 AM   AA Flight 77 Strikes Pentagon {minor-rounding?}   ?   Wash Post | Boston Globe | Patriot Resource
9:40 AM   FAA orders full aviation Groundstop (wrong)   ?   CNN | Wrongwaygoback
9:41 AM   Apparently ignoring the Shrubbo's DEFCON 3, Secretary of 'Defense' Rumsfeld is lounging in the Pentagon, but supposedly completely oblivious of the approaching AA Flight 77 which was apparently intended for the Capitol. As he watches TV coverage of WTC, he says, "Believe me, this isn't over yet. There's going to be another attack, and it could be us." apparently, "moments later, the plane hit."   Ok   Telegraph
9:41 AM   AA Flight 77 Strikes Pentagon, 81 minutes elapsed, 50-55 minutes warning! (8:46 - 8:50) 57 minutes at extraordinarily high alert. May have overheard National ATC order to C-130, spotted it and diverted there at last minute. {up to 9:43 also given, but [9:41:30] all tapes. It was a poor shot, obviously not well planned, for if it had crashed at the right angle into top of the inner ring through to the lower floors/ring of the opposite side, firefighters could never have reached the internally-contained fires.}   Ok    | NY Times | MSNBC | CBS - CNN - ABC news footage
9:45 AM   Airphone Operator receives report that UAL Flight 93 hijacked.   Ok   Patriot Resource
9:45 AM   Capitol and White House evacuates.   Ok   Wash Post | CNN | NY Daily News | Patriot Resource
9:45 AM   Langley F-16's reach Washington DC.   ?   Patriot Resource
9:49 AM   FAA orders full aviation Groundstop. (way wrong)   ?   Wash Post | NY Daily News
9:55 AM   (2-3 minutes) Military aide in White House bunker, to VP, "There is a plane 80 miles out. There is a fighter in the area. Should we engage?" (Otis F-15s?) VP (now ACIC) immediately answers "Yes." As the fighter gets nearer to UAL Flight 93, he is asked the same thing twice more, and responds yes both times.   Ok   Wash Post
9:58 AM   Airphone Operator receives last report from the indomitable heroes of UAL Flight 93 "Let's Roll".   Ok   Wrongwaygoback
10:00 AM   Langley F-16s Arrive Washington DC. At top speed, (1600 mph) they could have made the hop in 4.5 minutes. They were ordered to go to New York, (at 1100 mph.) instead of Washington. They spotted the Pentagon smoke, then were diverted there afterwards!   Ok   Boston Globe | Book - Among the Heroes
10:03 AM   2 F-16's reported closely tailing UAL Flight 93 by CBS. NH flight controller reports: "that an F-16 fighter closely pursued UAL Flight 93... the F-16 made 360-degree turns to remain close to the commercial jet, the employee said. 'He must've seen the whole thing,' the employee said of the F-16 pilot's view of UAL Flight 93's crash."   Ok   CBS | Nashua Tel | AP
Consistent with the overhead sighting, circle for side approach interception, move above forward to drop in front and do wing tilt, circle back to rear to kill pattern. However, no ground observer reports any military plane near the stricken flight at higher or lower altitudes, though some heard missiles and/or extra booms, and saw smaller, 'white' jet aircraft soon after the crash.
10:03 AM   Official time that UAL Flight 93 was terminated, matches CVR recording transcript-time, which ends with a 60-90 sec-long whooshing sound, confirmed between screams over open telephone lines. {Most certainly some serious destruction of the aircrafts cabin pressurization is evidenced by this sound, clear evidence of an air to air missile attack.}   Ok    SF Chron | NORAD | CNN
10:06 AM   Remains of UAL Flight 93 crash in Somerset PA, 40 minutes elapsed, 31-38 minutes warning. (9:28 - 9:35) 1:21 minutes at extraordinarily high alert. 10:06:05   Ok   NY Daily News | US Army Seismic records.
{ Smaller debris fields out at 8, then 3 and 2 miles, and an engine just 2000 yards beyond the crash site, and clearly consistent with heat-seeking missile scenario, rapidly slowed decompression debris, wing separation, fuselage damage - crash }   Ok    Independent | Phil Daily News | CBS
10:10 AM   UAL Flight 93 crashes in Somerset PA. 44 minutes elapsed, 35-42 minutes warning.   Ok?   Wash Post | CNN |MSNBC | NORAD | NY Times | Guardian | CBS | Boston Globe
10:37 AM   UAL Flight 93 crash in Somerset PA confirmed by FAA   Ok   ABC | Patriot Resource

That's quite a timeline, unless I missed it though, it's missing this very important entry...."Rice calls Bush before he enters the classroom and tells him a COMMERCIAL Airliner has hit the WTC."

The only people who know the plane that hit was a commercial airliner were the same ones that knew(thanks to the calls from the plane) that it was hijacked. Bush and Condi say they thought it was a weird accident. They are caught red handed lieing.

Press for truth part 2 "In their own words" allude to this topic....

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4399917864007973679&ei=NtEBSoSVN6CI-gHx2P33Cw&q=in+their+own+words&hl=en

[agentbluescreen]

That's quite a timeline, unless I missed it though, it's missing this very important entry...."Rice calls Bush before he enters the classroom and tells him a COMMERCIAL Airliner has hit the WTC."

The only people who know the plane that hit was a commercial airliner were the same ones that knew(thanks to the calls from the plane) that it was hijacked. Bush and Condi say they thought it was a weird accident. They are caught red handed lieing.

Press for truth part 2 "In their own words" allude to this topic....

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4399917864007973679&ei=NtEBSoSVN6CI-gHx2P33Cw&q=in+their+own+words&hl=en

Indeed they were fully alerted between 8:15 and 8:30 - 15 minutes before classes started in Sarasota UAL Ops centers were already emailing all pilots at 8:46 when plenty of planes were around, The 3 Andrews joyriders were already up and farting around at 8:30 even if the Otis crew was still stirring coffee. By 8:47 it was on all the morning network news shows, but only as a private plane accident which seemed rather innocuous. If Rice already knew it was commercial she'd have to know it was hijacked and there is no validity to the stand downs  Otis wasn't even ordered up by Norad NEADS (they were just using ATC traffic) and Andrews didn't receive orders till  9:25

[grapecrusher1]

Correct -- DRG and it is flight 77 -- too many Griffins to keep track of.

Despite his admission to a number of errors (the ICH article) he still raises some significant questions that I find perplexing.
(a)  it is not concretely known if there were seat-backed phones or phones available for crew (this shouldnt be hard to verify)
(b)  the lack of disclosure documenting the phone call
(c)  there were four calls made --- 2 from Olsen another 2 from May with a cellphone (it is quite undisputed that cellphones work at these heights)
(d)  how did she get two calls off and no else had an opportunity to do the same once
(e)  there are lesser inconsistencies ie Olsen waffling with his account airfone to cellphone back to airfone

I honestly dont buy the story that a group of 4 or 5 guys can commandeer a half occupied plane with boxcutters.  I have seen stressful situations and sure some cower in fear and others would react with force.  Boxcutters are a farce.  I see the scenario of patsies on board (check), ptech computer system takes over pilot control  (check), stand down in effect (check), dis-info multi-pronged strategy initiated (check) -- much more plausible.