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« on: May 04, 2009, 11:35:14 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2009, 11:47:00 AM »

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Mom says Patriot Act stripped son of due process
Ashton Lundeby

Posted: Apr. 29, 2009

Oxford, N.C. — Sixteen-year-old Ashton Lundeby's bedroom in his mother's Granville County home is nothing, if not patriotic. Images of American flags are everywhere – on the bed, on the floor, on the wall.



But according to the United States government, the tenth-grade home-schooler is being held on a criminal complaint that he made a bomb threat from his home on the night of Feb. 15.

The family was at a church function that night, his mother, Annette Lundeby, said.

"Undoubtedly, they were given false information, or they would not have had 12 agents in my house with a widow and two children and three cats," Lundeby said.

Around 10 p.m. on March 5, Lundeby said, armed FBI agents along with three local law enforcement officers stormed her home looking for her son. They handcuffed him and presented her with a search warrant.

"I was terrified," Lundeby's mother said. "There were guns, and I don't allow guns around my children. I don't believe in guns."

Lundeby told the officers that someone had hacked into her son's IP address and was using it to make crank calls connected through the Internet, making it look like the calls had originated from her home when they did not.

Her argument was ignored, she said. Agents seized a computer, a cell phone, gaming console, routers, bank statements and school records, according to federal search warrants.

"There were no bomb-making materials, not even a blasting cap, not even a wire," Lundeby said.

Ashton now sits in a juvenile facility in South Bend, Ind. His mother has had little access to him since his arrest. She has gone to her state representatives as well as attorneys, seeking assistance, but, she said, there is nothing she can do.

Lundeby said the USA Patriot Act stripped her son of his due process rights.

"We have no rights under the Patriot Act to even defend them, because the Patriot Act basically supersedes the Constitution," she said. "It wasn't intended to drag your barely 16-year-old, 120-pound son out in the middle of the night on a charge that we can't even defend."

Passed after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the U.S., the Patriot Act allows federal agents to investigate suspected cases of terrorism swiftly to better protect the country. In part, it gives the federal government more latitude to search telephone records, e-mails and other records.

"They're saying that 'We feel this individual is a terrorist or an enemy combatant against the United States, and we're going to suspend all of those due process rights because this person is an enemy of the United States," said Dan Boyce, a defense attorney and former U.S. attorney not connected to the Lundeby case.

Critics of the statute say it threatens the most basic of liberties.

"There's nothing a matter of public record," Boyce said "All those normal rights are just suspended in the air."

In a bi-partisan effort, Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., and Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., last month introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives a bill that would narrow subpoena power in a provision of the Patriot Act, called the National Security Letters, to curb what some consider to be abuse of power by federal law enforcement officers.

Boyce said the Patriot Act was written with good intentions, but he said he believes it has gone too far in some cases. Lundeby's might be one of them, he said.

"It very well could be a case of overreaction, where an agent leaped to certain conclusions or has made certain assumptions about this individual and about how serious the threat really is," Boyce said.

Because a federal judge issued a gag order in the case, the U.S. attorney in Indiana cannot comment on the case, nor can the FBI. The North Carolina Highway Patrol did confirm that officers assisted with the FBI operation at the Lundeby home on March 5.

"Never in my worst nightmare did I ever think that it would be my own government that I would have to protect my children from," Lundeby said. "This is the United States, and I feel like I live in a third world country now."

Lundeby said she does not think this type of case is what the Patriot Act was intended for. Boyce agrees.

"It was to protect the public, but what we need to do is to make sure there are checks and balances to make sure those new laws are not abused," he said.

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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2009, 11:52:21 AM »



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"Sixteen-year-old Ashton Lundeby's bedroom in his mother's Granville County home is nothing, if not patriotic. Images of American flags are everywhere on the bed, on the floor, on the wall.

But according to the United States government, the tenth-grade home-schooler is being held on a criminal complaint that he made a bomb threat from his home on the night of Feb. 15.

The family was at More..a church function that night, his mother, Annette Lundeby, said.

"Undoubtedly, they were given false information, or they would not have had 12 agents in my house with a widow and two children and three cats," Lundeby said.

Around 10 p.m. on March 5, Lundeby said, armed FBI agents along with three local law enforcement officers stormed her home looking for her son. They handcuffed him and presented her with a search warrant.

"I was terrified," Lundeby's mother said. "There were guns, and I don't allow guns around my children. I don't believe in guns."

Lundeby told the officers that someone had hacked into her son's IP address and was using it to make crank calls connected through the Internet, making it look like the calls had originated from her home when they did not.

Her argument was ignored, she said. Agents seized a computer, a cell phone, gaming console, routers, bank statements and school records, according to federal search warrants.

"There were no bomb-making materials, not even a blasting cap, not even a wire," Lundeby said.

Ashton now sits in a juvenile facility in South Bend, Ind. His mother has had little access to him since his arrest. She has gone to her state representatives as well as attorneys, seeking assistance, but, she said, there is nothing she can do.

Lundeby said the USA Patriot Act stripped her son of his due process rights.

"We have no rights under the Patriot Act to even defend them, because the Patriot Act basically supersedes the Constitution," she said. "It wasn't intended to drag your barely 16-year-old, 120-pound son out in the middle of the night on a charge that we can't even defend."

Passed after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the U.S., the Patriot Act allows federal agents to investigate suspected cases of terrorism swiftly to better protect the country. In part, it gives the federal government more latitude to search telephone records, e-mails and other records.

"They're saying that 'We feel this individual is a terrorist or an enemy combatant against the United States, and we're going to suspend all of those due process rights because this person is an enemy of the United States," said Dan Boyce, a defense attorney and former U.S. attorney not connected to the Lundeby case.

Critics of the statute say it threatens the most basic of liberties.

"There's nothing a matter of public record," Boyce said "All those normal rights are just suspended in the air."

In a bi-partisan effort, Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., and Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., last month introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives a bill that would narrow subpoena power in a provision of the Patriot Act, called the National Security Letters, to curb what some consider to be abuse of power by federal law enforcement officers.

Boyce said the Patriot Act was written with good intentions, but he said he believes it has gone too far in some cases. Lundeby's might be one of them, he said.

"It very well could be a case of overreaction, where an agent leaped to certain conclusions or has made certain assumptions about this individual and about how serious the threat really is," Boyce said.

Because a federal judge issued a gag order in the case, the U.S. attorney in Indiana cannot comment on the case, nor can the FBI. The North Carolina Highway Patrol did confirm that officers assisted with the FBI operation at the Lundeby home on March 5.

"Never in my worst nightmare did I ever think that it would be my own government that I would have to protect my children from," Lundeby said. "This is the United States, and I feel like I live in a third world country now."

Lundeby said she does not think this type of case is what the Patriot Act was intended for. Boyce agrees.

"It was to protect the public, but what we need to do is to make sure there are checks and balances to make sure those new laws are not abused," he said."
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2009, 11:52:44 AM »

so i'm curious to know how she felt about it(patriot act) before these events?
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2009, 11:56:58 AM »

Something I am confused with is if this happened in NC how come the mother said something about South Bend Indiana and gave the U.S. atty general numbers?
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2009, 12:01:44 PM »

I am waiting to here back from our network administrator on the security of Skype and IP phones.  I will post his response and send a copy to the judge and attorney.

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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2009, 12:03:42 PM »

He is being charged in his hometown.

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re: so i'm curious to know how she felt about it (patriot act) before these events?

Why ? Is knowing going to get her kid from the cluthches of these scum?
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2009, 12:14:24 PM »

He's questioning a) if the kid deserves our help or b) if the mother deserves our help to get her son released or c) wondering if he/she/they learned their lesson(s) about the NWO with this incident.

I can't reason that any better.

He is being charged in his hometown.

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re: so i'm curious to know how she felt about it (patriot act) before these events?

Why ? Is knowing going to get her kid from the cluthches of these scum?
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2009, 12:17:01 PM »

Sounds like the FBI needs to inform some of their agents how IP Spoofing works. To say IP addresses are as incriminating as fingerprints is a joke. Hearing sickening stories such as this makes me happy that I no longer live in the USA.
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2009, 12:29:02 PM »

He's questioning a) if the kid deserves our help or b) if the mother deserves our help to get her son released or c) wondering if he/she/they learned their lesson(s) about the NWO with this incident.

I can't reason that any better.


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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2009, 01:32:15 PM »

Poor little Emo kid.  I hope they didn't take him to prison in the pink sweater.

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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2009, 05:43:54 PM »

WRAL 5 News Report On Boy Arrested Under the Patriot Act

http://www.infowars.com/wral-5-news-report-on-boy-arrested-under-the-patriot-act/

Unbelieveable.



Remember guys anyone can hack into your PC, Internet, and VOIP phones if you own a router.. It's not that hard at all.

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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2009, 06:39:12 PM »

Alex Jones was airing his mother on the show today, If I remember correctly. It's scary what they can do and have you incarcerated using the Patriot Act as a weapon of agenda setting and prioritizing.
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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2009, 08:04:19 PM »

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=103788.msg622535#msg622535
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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2009, 05:29:33 PM »

FREE HIM NOW!!!
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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2009, 06:45:35 PM »

Lundeby said she does not think this type of case is what the Patriot Act was intended for.

Well if the American people actually read it they would know better wouldn't they.
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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2009, 07:20:22 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2009, 07:31:32 PM »

Well if the American people actually read it they would know better wouldn't they.

Now, who has the time for that?
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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2009, 07:34:47 PM »

Now, who has the time for that?

Whoever pushed for voting for it.
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« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2009, 07:41:16 PM »

AI is talking about this now.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/911-INSIDEJOB
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« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2009, 09:56:22 PM »

AI is talking about this now.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/911-INSIDEJOB

AI? Believe it or not, I do not know what these two letters mean.
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« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2009, 07:35:24 AM »

AI? Believe it or not, I do not know what these two letters mean.

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« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2009, 09:19:34 PM »

I am waiting to here back from our network administrator on the security of Skype and IP phones.  I will post his response and send a copy to the judge and attorney.

Jason
First, SKYPE is 100% comprimised... It is P2P and thanks to  these bad boys  http://www.datatekcorp.com/index.php/ipv6-portal/ipv6-resources/117-sbir-work  AGILE C2 Systems have access to all of skypes encryption keys and therefore  your conversation is easily decrypted.

IF You run SIP(VOIP  Protocol)   over SSH tunneled or TLS tunnels using properly protected priovate keys you must implicitly trust in order to  utilize will provide you with reasonable  security. However TEMPEST reconnaissance methods negate all of that ...   http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=102271.0


So, at that point you enter  an entirely new ball game I doubt you  want to play at the moment and I leave it at that (it's a time to comprehension curve thing  and I don't have time to spend on it at the moment ...)


So, I  have left a  voicemail at that number listed never got a call back ...  I will try again here tomorrow most likely.

On to the core here shall we?

Ok, so as I believe I pointed out on air with Anti_Illuminati this is not an IP hijacking attack #1, Iyt is called IP Poisoning. It is a function of TCP / IP even... Or flaw ... take your pick....
#2 to sucessfully carry out an IP reflection attack which is the precise form of IP poisoning these people claim he acomplished the kid would A have to have extreme in depth knowledge of TCP/IP at the very core. He should be able to literally write custom packets off a *NIX command line. Also, he needs to be able to do that kind of thing in his sleep because the next part of what he needs to have under his belt makes the year it took me to learn how to do that look like childs play almost.

So, one must first find a victim who's machine is exploitable. They must then take control over it. If this machine is a windows machine they must install a Blue Pill type hypervisor to have access to a proper linux networking stack.
All of this being done via remote trojan or rootkit using half process cylces and idle time to avoid detection  till you get the blue pill in place .... Also you will want to run your  linux install using a very specialized custom installer program that you will have to write yourself in order to install not only over the wire but using as little disk space and as little  ram and cpu as possible in order to prevent the user from noticing his computer just got a whole lot slower all of a sudden....

http://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com/2006/06/introducing-blue-pill.html

Realize this is not even the part of the crime they charged him with or said he did... No he then would have to use  all that to proxy all of his network traffic through the victim's machine.

Then after the attacker has a linux host running, the attacker then sets up an ARP tunnel. The attacker binds their local machine to this ARP tunnel... If you don't know what an ARP tunnel is don't worry I doubt this kid did either ...So, you establish an ARP tunnel bypassing your own ISP in the process because well you are just leet enough in packet crafting that your fragmented packets bypass the ISP's VLAN segregation filters and actually allow you to  establish a layer 2 tunnel across their switched network....

Then you are good to go...

 Having accomplished a miracle I'm surprised the kid wasn't yelling I'm going to Disney land ...


Now in the real world. Assuming you are doing this properly because you have a legitimate reason .... ie you want to hide your local offices from the rest of the world. You want all their  external (outside of the firewall) traffic going through one gateway IP that is not their real IP

Well assuming that you have an established ATM session this actually becomes very easy..... You just create an ARP tunnel on your host machine  -- the proxy box who's ip you will share.  You bind to this  ARP tunnel on the client machine. . Then you are set. Unless of course you need to stealth everything properly. Then  you go into the Host machine and you write a script to use IPTables / MASQUERADE or IPFW /NAT to preserve time to live on all packets and translate them properly for all hidden machines.
Usualy takes me about 6 or 7 hours to write after I have a good understanding of the network topology being "Proxied" ....

How a kid would do this on an ISP's network without breaking everything for all their other users is beyond me. ALL consumer ISPs in north carolina prevent the use of Layer 2 bridging   because they already use it to map management IPs to all their modems ...


Need I really go on?

Believe me I can contiue and  with every word  this kid will seem more and more like nothing but a psy op to condition people to believe A the internet is bad and B that it's ok for even innocent looking kids to go off to a concentration camp because big brother calls them terrorists...
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« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2009, 11:40:34 PM »

Whoever pushed for voting for it.

Good point. The only ones who really know what's going on... are the perps themselves.
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