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« on: May 01, 2009, 10:30:42 AM »

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/02/27/8560781.html

Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus

By Helen Branswell, THE CANADIAN PRESS

Last Updated: 27th February 2009, 3:26pm

The company that released contaminated flu virus material from a plant in Austria confirmed Friday that the experimental product contained live H5N1 avian flu viruses.

And an official of the World Health Organization’s European operation said the body is closely monitoring the investigation into the events that took place at Baxter International’s research facility in Orth-Donau, Austria.

“At this juncture we are confident in saying that public health and occupational risk is minimal at present,” medical officer Roberta Andraghetti said from Copenhagen, Denmark.

“But what remains unanswered are the circumstances surrounding the incident in the Baxter facility in Orth-Donau.”

The contaminated product, a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses and unlabelled H5N1 viruses, was supplied to an Austrian research company. The Austrian firm, Avir Green Hills Biotechnology, then sent portions of it to sub-contractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany.

The contamination incident, which is being investigated by the four European countries, came to light when the subcontractor in the Czech Republic inoculated ferrets with the product and they died. Ferrets shouldn’t die from exposure to human H3N2 flu viruses.

Public health authorities concerned about what has been described as a “serious error” on Baxter’s part have assumed the death of the ferrets meant the H5N1 virus in the product was live. But the company, Baxter International Inc., has been parsimonious about the amount of information it has released about the event.

On Friday, the company’s director of global bioscience communications confirmed what scientists have suspected.

“It was live,” Christopher Bona said in an email.

The contaminated product, which Baxter calls “experimental virus material,” was made at the Orth-Donau research facility. Baxter makes its flu vaccine — including a human H5N1 vaccine for which a licence is expected shortly — at a facility in the Czech Republic.

People familiar with biosecurity rules are dismayed by evidence that human H3N2 and avian H5N1 viruses somehow co-mingled in the Orth-Donau facility. That is a dangerous practice that should not be allowed to happen, a number of experts insisted.

Accidental release of a mixture of live H5N1 and H3N2 viruses could have resulted in dire consequences.

While H5N1 doesn’t easily infect people, H3N2 viruses do. If someone exposed to a mixture of the two had been simultaneously infected with both strains, he or she could have served as an incubator for a hybrid virus able to transmit easily to and among people.

That mixing process, called reassortment, is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created.

There is no suggestion that happened because of this accident, however.

“We have no evidence of any reassortment, that any reassortment may have occurred,” said Andraghetti.

“And we have no evidence of any increased transmissibility of the viruses that were involved in the experiment with the ferrets in the Czech Republic.”

Baxter hasn’t shed much light — at least not publicly — on how the accident happened. Earlier this week Bona called the mistake the result of a combination of “just the process itself, (and) technical and human error in this procedure.”

He said he couldn’t reveal more information because it would give away proprietary information about Baxter’s production process.

Andraghetti said Friday the four investigating governments are co-operating closely with the WHO and the European Centre for Disease Control in Stockholm, Sweden.

“We are in very close contact with Austrian authorities to understand what the circumstances of the incident in their laboratory were,” she said.

“And the reason for us wishing to know what has happened is to prevent similar events in the future and to share lessons that can be learned from this event with others to prevent similar events. ... This is very important.”
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2009, 10:31:52 AM »

Clearly off us.  Angry
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2009, 10:40:06 AM »

"He said he couldn’t reveal more information because it would give away proprietary information about Baxter’s production process."

Bullshit. It's because it would reveal the truth.
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2009, 11:22:57 AM »

Michael - thanks for your post - people have no idea that methadone is worse than heroin. They think it's a safe replacement; and you point out the absolute evil that government programs do to keep people tied into this myth. My late husband came back from Viet Nam absolutely addicted to heroin; they detoxed him in the phillipines then sent him home to struggle with his addiction alone and without any viable treatment options except repeated detoxes at the VA. Ultimately he lost his battle with addiction and I have seen his friends from his days in Viet Nam struggle with these issues as well. Now we can expect another round of guys returning from Afghanistan with the same problems - and they'll have to deal with the governments inadequate response to their needs yet again.
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2009, 11:44:41 AM »

My God, big pharma, chema, agra and the others are all born out of the eugenics movement, all their actions reveal their intentions...clearly have us sick and dying..its a cartel! Just look at the green revolution during the 50s and 60s...and now the GMO revolution! its pure eugenics...fluoride in the drinking water for no reason? "Yeah we care about your teeth america...", sure!...countless homless, the worst healthcare system in the civilized world...but americas teeth need government looking after! What a joke!
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2009, 12:09:04 PM »

Good to see the mainstream media reporting on this. Product contained LIVE BIRD FLU VIRUS!
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2009, 12:49:41 PM »

Big Pharma is run by eugenicists.
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2009, 01:16:38 PM »

I believe that they also use the zanax,hydrocodone, and a whole list of other drugs for depression and paid to keep a vast majority addicted and dependent because they know if they have so many addicted to these things they will do most anything to get their fix and follow along with any demands they make in order to get that fix therefore they have great control over all of these people and there is a large portion of the population who is addicted to at least one of these drugs that make them dependent\addicts.  And yes I believe those who are wanting this NWO is behind it all. It dumbs them down and makes them totally dependent!  It is so common to hear someone say.. I have to take my hydrocodone to help me with my pain and I believe that they become so psycologically addicted to these pain killers that they believe they have pain or make excuses of pain just to justify getting these meds and taking them and so many are in denial of addiction or that they are druggies because they get these from Dr's instead of getting them on the streets. What is the difference in addiction? An addiction is an addiction no matter where u get your drugs! I know of certain Dr's that many go to that are nothing more than drug pushers and they go to the specific Dr's because they know that they will get their drugs of choice from them. It is sickening and these Dr's should be reported but who do u report them to? They are doing the work of those who are in charge so there is actually no one to report them to.  There are people who go to this place called Quinco to get social security checks and have themselves declared to have mental problems in order to get these checks because it is easier to get the check by having themselves declared having mental problems than it is to get a check over some legitimate physical problem they have.. Yes, I would say this is all done by design and the places like Quinco are those who freely give out these drugs to all of the so called mental patients! If I know this is happening those in power that could put a stop to it have to know it is happening too and why do they not try to stop it?  Obviously it is because they want this! It is so bad that I would say probably 8 out of 10 people you talk to is taking one or more of these drugs!
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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2009, 01:33:57 PM »

Yesterday Bermas had an article on his website about "Abilify" the drug you take when your anti-depressant just 'isn't enough'. So they advise you take this drug IN ADDITION to your prozac/lexapro/fillintheblank drug. Scum of the earth.
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