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« on: April 30, 2009, 09:07:21 PM »

Mexican ambassador: Flu exaggerated
By Reid Wilson
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/mexican-ambassador-flus-reach-exaggerated-2009-04-30.html

The Mexican ambassador to the United States said Thursday reports about the deadly H1N1 flu virus have dramatically overstated the disease's reach, and that just eight deaths can be definitively pinned on the virus.

Ambassador Arturo Sarukhan, addressing a luncheon sponsored by the Meridian International Group, said just 100 H1N1 virus cases have been confirmed in Mexico, far fewer than the nearly 2,000 press reports have indicated.

"Things in Mexico basically seem to be at a plateau," Sarukhan said, adding that the next 24 to 48 hours will indicate how far the virus has spread and whether it's been brought under control.

Sarukhan said those who would try to close the border with Mexico to stop the spread of the disease are misguided, and praised efforts of his own government and Canadian and American governments in responding to the crisis.

Closing the border "doesn't work. The World Health Organization, I think, has been very clear that shutting down the borders doesn't work and in many cases exacerbates" the spread of the disease, Sarukhan said. "I think shutting down the borders is a wonder policy: You do it, and then you wonder whether it's going to work."

Sarukhan also said Mexico and the United States have been working together to rename the affliction under its more scientific H1N1 designation, rather than calling it the swine flu. Humans cannot get the virus from eating pork, and misconceptions about transmission have caused Japan and Russia to halt importation of pork from the U.S. and Mexico.

"We have been very careful in trying to relabel this virus," he said. In the U.S., Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano have each stressed the importance of disassociating the disease with pigs.

Assessing the state of the U.S.-Mexican relationship, Sarukhan said the new American administration seems to understand the necessity of re-engaging with Latin America as a whole and of building a strategic partnership with Mexico in particular.

But, he said, immigration issues will likely bubble to the top, and that securing the border should be a top priority for both sides.

"It behooves Mexico to work hand in hand with America to make sure our border is secure," the ambassador said. "We need the help of the United States to stop the flow of cash and weapons across the border into Mexico."

"Border security will be the fulcrum of a new debate on comprehensive immigration reform," he added.

Sarukhan also insisted that U.S. relations with Latin America will improve if Congress passes two trade deals that have generated controversy in recent years. A free trade pact with Colombia and Panama "will be an issue that will color the inter-American agenda if it does not move forward," he said.

House and Senate sources say the Panama deal stands a good chance of passing in the near future, given that labor leaders have voiced little opposition to the pact. The Colombian deal, the focus of a serious fight in the 110th Congress, is unlikely to pass this year, sources said.

With wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, a nuclear Iran and North Korea, Sarukhan admitted that diplomatic relations with Latin American countries would fall on the priority list. Still, he said, the region could present the U.S. and Mexico with trouble in the future.

"There have been fundamental changes in Latin America that don't guarantee peace, prosperity and stability," he said, pointing to democracies in Venezuela and elsewhere that feature strong presidents who can effectively rewrite their constitutions to hold on to power.

With a young administration in Mexico that has just secured a seat on the United Nations Security Council, Sarukhan said now is the time for the U.S. and Mexico to build a new strategic partnership.

"The challenge for Mexico and the U.S. is whether we can move from playing checkers to playing chess," he said.
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2009, 09:55:06 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2009, 10:22:52 PM »

It makes you wonder why on earth this has been hyped up to a ridiculous level that even sheeple are seeing straight through it.  We have wondered about this being a trial run, or is this the first wave before a deadlier second wave, just like the 1918 pandemic.  Or, is it to gear our minds toward other possibilities?  Possibilities of other threats that we have become blasé about?  Such as the H5N1 bird flu? 

IVW: Don't Forget About Bird Flu

By Todd Neale, Staff Writer, MedPage Today
Published: April 30, 2009
 
CANNES, France, April 30 -- While the world waits to see whether the 2009 H1N1 (swine) influenza virus will cause a pandemic, researchers here said the threat of H5N1 avian flu should not be forgotten.

Avian flu has been at the top of everybody's "hit list" of viruses with pandemic potential for the past decade, Robert Webster, Ph.D., of St. Jude Children's Research Hospital in Memphis, said today at the conference on Influenza Vaccines for the World.

But that changed last week with the emergence of a virus containing fragments from swine, human, and avian viruses, he said.

"H1N1 has come in from left field . . . and stunned us all," he said.

David Fedson, M.D., formerly of the University of Virginia School of Medicine and Aventis Pasteur MSD, now retired, agreed with Dr. Webster.

"We've had no way to anticipate this," he said. "It just shows once again how, if there's anything consistent about influenza virology and influenza virus behavior, it's that you're always going to be surprised . . . and we've been surprised."

Nevertheless, even at number two, H5N1 remains a serious threat, according to John Oxford, Ph.D., scientific director of Retroscreen Virology and a professor of virology at St. Bartholomew's and the Royal London Hospital.

"Just because there's an immediate problem with the swine virus from Mexico, we shouldn't forget H5N1," he said.

Although H5N1 is not easily transmissible between birds and humans, a genetic reassortment could remove that barrier, Dr. Webster said.

The result could be catastrophic considering that, as of April 2009, 61% of the 421 human cases of avian influenza infection have died.

The high death rate is "what scares the bejesus out of us," he said.

Dr. Fedson said that H5N1 "could cause a global population collapse if it developed easy transmissibility and maintained the same virulence characteristics of this virus, which exists in Indonesia, southeast Asia, and other countries. I mean, that is just horrifying to think about."

The avian flu virus has been found in more than 60 countries and has established three epicenters -- in southern China, Indonesia, and Egypt, according to Dr. Webster.

It continues to evolve, as evidenced by the failure of 21 different poultry vaccines against the virus tried in Egypt.

"H5N1 is still alive and well," he said.

Dr. Oxford noted that nobody in the world has an immunity to H5N1, but that most people have been exposed to H1N1 viruses before, although not the newest variation.

Even so, he said that he's sure the previous exposure will at least partially impede the spread of the new virus.

And even though a forecast avian flu pandemic has not yet materialized, the attention the virus garnered when it first appeared could actually help dealing with the current situation.

The avian flu fears led to investment, the building of vaccine production facilities, and government stockpiles of antivirals and other supplies, Dr. Oxford said.

In turn, the current situation with H1N1 "could be a dress rehearsal for something very, very big," he said.

"The [H5N1 avian flu] is the virus most likely to cause a big pandemic, a world shattering affair," he said, "whereas I don't think this swine is going to do that."


With Biden's famous words, anti-viral stockpiles expiring, so much other news that we need to be distracted from, you can't help but wonder just how much planning has gone into all of this.
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2009, 10:27:07 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2009, 10:42:52 PM »

I truly believe this is a PsyOps set up to acclimate the people to the idea for martial law.

They are putting up bait and switches from different "officials" to keep the public in a constant state of confusion and think this is government just crying wolf and then when the unleash the real deal in the fall many will die.  I hope we can expose them now and many people refuse any vaccines and build their immune systems and keep a close eye on these evil bastards.

I am also very suspicious of those census takers GPS plotting all of us too.
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2009, 10:48:14 PM »

The Mexican Ambassador made his press statement from his secret base deep underground.

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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2009, 11:02:37 PM »

I truly believe this is a PsyOps set up to acclimate the people to the idea for martial law.

They are putting up bait and switches from different "officials" to keep the public in a constant state of confusion and think this is government just crying wolf and then when the unleash the real deal in the fall many will die.  I hope we can expose them now and many people refuse any vaccines and build their immune systems and keep a close eye on these evil bastards.

I am also very suspicious of those census takers GPS plotting all of us too.

I've been thinking about that too.  I'm getting to where I am starting to not trust anything I read.  For example, and kinda on topic, this Fox news article talks about the demand for a flu vaccine will overwhelm manufacturers.  Complete and utter psyops, engineering a mentality of people wanting to get the vaccine asap while they still have them.  Exactly the same way they engineered the Tamiflu (anti-viral) rush in 2005.

I study the facial expressions and body language of all of the talking heads when they're doing their press conferences.  Some are not good at hiding their discomfort with what they're saying.
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2009, 11:28:11 PM »

I've been thinking about that too.  I'm getting to where I am starting to not trust anything I read.  For example, and kinda on topic, this Fox news article talks about the demand for a flu vaccine will overwhelm manufacturers.  Complete and utter psyops, engineering a mentality of people wanting to get the vaccine asap while they still have them.  Exactly the same way they engineered the Tamiflu (anti-viral) rush in 2005.

I study the facial expressions and body language of all of the talking heads when they're doing their press conferences.  Some are not good at hiding their discomfort with what they're saying.

I definitely agree...the body language is a dead give away of liars; the constant blinking of eyes; being fidgety in their seats as if ants were in their pants; constant licking of their lips or putting their hands up to their mouths and acting real goofy...well, I was just able to give everyone a great description of Glenn Beck.  LOL!!

In all seriousness, I will be more concerned come the fall for the possibility of these evil bastards to try to unleash a flu pandemic.
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