Most Startling 9/11 Evidence(Ptech, Oklahoma, Saudis, etc)

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I always see so much focus on "physical anomalies" and various red herrings.
I know people focus on Silverstein, Dov Zakeim, bombs in the building, neocons, "Zionists"...
Id like to point out the deep involvement of Saudis, ISI, Israel; as well as shadow elements in many international intel agencies and even corporations. If youve seen "The International" or know about BCCI, youll know how this stuff operates. This is why I call 9/11 an "NWO job".

But I haven't seen too many researchers looking into the financial and real world arteries of al Qaeda
and these shadow networks that puppeteer and protect them. From 9/11 to 7/7, to 3/11, Bali Bombing, WTC 1993, USS Cole, and Twin African 1998 attacks all my research has shown that these "al Qaeda" types are protected. From Ali Mohamed to Mohammed Jamal Khalifa.

I want to present to you some of the most smoking gun and strangest revelations Ive found about 9/11.
And what I find keeps me coming back to:
Florida, San Diego, Oklahoma, Virginia, Hamberg Germany, Malaysia and everywhere BUT Afghanistan

1. According to this timeline released last year( http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20080216195228169 ) the 9/11 hijackers:
*Had credit cards being used after the 9/11 attacks
*Had inside help at the airports
*Had men inside their hotel room keeping maids away as the attacks were unfolding
and many many many other bizarre details

2. Oklahoma City John Doe No 2 suspect Husseini al Hussein was one of the baggage handlers at Boston Logan the morning of 9/11

3. The hijackers and the anthrax'd Sun Tabloid:
One of the most bizarre facts of 9/11, is the direct tie between the 9/11 hijackers and the anthrax case. As it turns out, the FIRST victims of the
anthrax attacks(the Sun Tabloid in American Media building) housed the 9/11 hijackers a couple months before the sept 11th attacks. The Irishes(Michael and Gloria) who run the Sun Tabloid, put the hijackers in their condo in Florida.
Michael Irish even was training at the same Florida flight school as Atta and al-Shehe at the same time they were there(and the heroin plane bust)
http://www.sptimes.com/News/101501/Worldandnation/Hijackers_linked_to_t.shtml

4. The mystery of Atta and Portland Maine/Good Comfort Inn. According to reports and an interview,
the owner of the Good Comfort Inn Atta and al-Omari stayed in the night before 9/11 saw agents show up to her place immediately after 9/11 and harassed/followed her for months to go. Authorities whose investigation was hampered by higher ups point to mystery surrounding Atta and his time in Maine.
Was he meeting...handlers? The "ATTA LUGGAGE" story is certainly a bizarre one, how his rosetta stone luggage that mysteriously didnt make it neatly tied everything up

5. Saudi officials in fancy cars seen at the hijackers San Diego and Falls Church and Vienna Virginia
residences(3 of the hijackers stayed at bin Laden brothers terror funding WAMY center in Virginia)
And then not far from NSA headquartes, who themselves were tracking al Qaeda and bin Laden's
every move.

6. Oklahoma: The Nick Berg, Melvin Lattimore, Moussaoui, 9/11 connection:
In 2004 a horrific video was released online by "al Qaeda" in Iraq
showing what appeared to be a young American being beheaded.
His name was Nick Berg.

Flashback to 2001. According to witness reports, Nick Berg frequented the campus of Norman Oklahoma and was seen hanging out with a man named Hussein al Attas. al Attas had just come from the FBI informant's house in San Diego where he had been staying with some of the 9/11 hijackers, and before that he was staying at Infocus chairmen Yuzid Sufaat's condo in Kuala Lampar Malaysia. It was HIS condo where Khalid Sheikh Mohamed, Indonesian JI head Hambali, Nawaf al Hazmi and Khalid al Midhar were monitored by the CIA as having a "9/11-USS Cole" meeting.
And who is hanging with Nick Berg and rooming with al Attas?
Zacharius Moussaoui.

This is where it gets *really* weird.

In 1989 a black Muslim convert named Melvin Lattimore now going by the name "Mujahid Menepta" reportedly was released from prison for a violent bank robbery if he agreed to be an FBI informant. Basically to go into local mosques in St Louis and Oklahoma to sniff out extremists.
It was here he allegedly met bin Laden associate Wadih el Hage.

In 1993 authorities said that Melvin Lattimore's credit cards were used
for the World Trade Center bombing.

According to PBS, LAWeekly, etc Melvin Lattimore took Timothy Mcveigh
and various OKC 1995 co-conspirators to a motel in OK called "Dreamland". To this day the owners swear up and down Lattimore would loiter in their lobby. Lattimore was also witnessed driving Mcveigh and two neo Nazis(FBI informants Sean Kenny and James Rosencranz)
in Oklahoma City OK days before the April 19th attack.
The spooky thing is, 6 years later Lattimore takes Moussaoui and Mohamed Atta to this SAME motel in the summer of 2001.

Police came to the Parkview Apartments on the Campus of Oklahoma University to raid his place, but Moussaoui, Lattimore and Al Attas all fled.
Authorities and eye witnesses would say a "white man" would use the library computers at OKU to purchase a flight ticket for Flight 93. Was this meant for Moussaoui, bought by Nick Berg? And was Nick Berg, like Lattimore, an informant?
Al Attas THEN drives Moussaoui to Minnesota for flight training.
THIS is where the big FBI scandal unfolds, as Coleen Rowley and FBI Agent Harry Sammit wave big red flags to higher ups to move in on Moussaoui. His laptop would have Nick Bergs emails on it.
Melvin Lattimore THEN drives all the way to Minnesota to bail out al Attas, despire both being connected to 9/11 by then. Moussaoui then gets arrested on parole violations stemming from firearm possessions.

Like Ali Mohamed(admitted mastermind of the 1998 African bombing and
co creator of Al Qaeda), Melvin Lattimore is a free man in America despite being linked to all three attacks in America.

7. A REAL history of "al Qaeda": PTECH, Ali Mohamed, WTC 1993, Brooklyn and Boston:
MAK-al Qaeda-Care-Ptech, Oh My!
In the early 80's, to help spur non local Muslim fighters, the Maktab al-Khidamat or "MAK" was created. This would end up being ran by Osama bin Laden with help from Pakistani ISI and Saudi GID as well as wealthy Saudi sponsors. In 1988 it is said that Maktab al-Khidamat officially became "al Qaeda"(or "the base"), and in 1989 an American branch of al Qaeda would be created in Brooklyn New York and
Boston Mass. This would be called "the Alkifah Refugees Center".

In 1987 special forces/green beret specialist and Sadat assassination operative Ali Mohamed would go to Afghanistan to train Mujahadeen under Gulbuddin Hekmatyar for the CIA. In 1989, Ali Mohamed would be seen training some of these same Mujahadeen in New Jersey. These men would go on to be involved in the World Trade Center 1993 plot, which was conducted under the AlKifah Refugee Center with the Blind Sheikh's mosque. FBI informant Emad Salem was slipped into the plot by FBI Agent John Anticev in an apparent attempt to foil the plot.
Two and a half years earlier, Ali Mohamed would have a man murder a radical New York rabbi named Mayer Khahane. When the police raided el Nossair(the killer)'s house, they found high level arm manuals on blowing up buildings and blueprints for the WTC with Arabic written on them.

In 1989 Wadih el-Hage was called to head up the AlKifah Center, which quickly turned Afghan Mujahadeen vets into fighting and recruiting for the soon to be Bosnia jihad. After WTC 1993, Wadih el-Hage moved with bin Laden and Ali Mohamed to Sudan. Four years later when he was caught,
he was found to have been working with 9/11 Hamberg cell and Atta associated operative Mamoun Darkazanli as well as Marzouk, and Ali Mohamed.

AlKifah became Care International, which got absorbed into Ptech

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/05/12/former_officers_of_islamic_charity_indicted_on_federal_charges/

The heads of Care Intl(AlKifah) and Logan Furniture in Braintree
(Emadeddin Muntasser and Muhammed Mubayyid ) Massachusetts were some of the heads of Ptech in Quincy.

Mohammed El-Mezain, head of CAIR international AND Iman Anwar Aulaqi helped to host and help the 9/11 hijackers in Falls Church VA www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/...0-7BAB1CE0141E}

Ptech is of course the high level technology firm by top bin Laden financier Yassin al Qahdi(who works with Khalid Bin Mahfouz, named in the 'Golden Chain') that by 1996 was deeply immersed in top US government network computer systems like a neo PROMIS INSLAW.
Ptech had networks in the basement of the FAA as of 9/11, along with Mitre.

NOTE: The ENTIRE WTC 1993/Indonesian/Philipines/ALKIFAH/
Brooklyn/Hamberg connection was detected by Pentagon's Able Danger program, this was its purpose(not the Webster Tarpley disinfo)

ALSO Note who was found in el-Hage's address book:
# Ali Mohamed, the al-Qaeda double agent living in California.

# Mamoun Darkazanli, Syrian-born businessman living in Hamburg, Germany, who had contacts with Mohamed Atta’s al-Qaeda cell in the same city. Darkazanli’s name and phone number are listed, and El-Hage even has a business card listing El-Hage’s address in Texas and Darkazanli’s address in Hamburg.

# Ghassan Dahduli, an associate of El-Hage's from Tucson, AZ. Dahduli was affiliated with the Illinois-based Islamic Association for Palestine, suspect at one time of being a Hamas front organization, and the commercial web-hosting service InfoCom Corporation which would later be raided by the US Joint Terrorism Task Force. Though Dahduli himself is apparently quite innocuous, the INS would have him deported to Jordan in late 2001.[6]

# Saleh Bin Abdul Aziz Al Rajhi, a brother of Saudi billionaire Sulaiman Abdel Aziz al-Rajhi who founded of a Herndon, VA-based network of charities and businesses known as the SAAR Foundation

Mamoun Darkazanli was a CIA informant, and USED to help start the Hamberg Cell with Atta(also an agent) in Hamberg with MI6 asset Mohammed Zammar(the al Qud mosque cleric) Mamoun Darkazanli ran Darkazanli Export-Import Sonderposten

Dahduli ran INFOCOM in Dallas, which shredded their documents and evidence DAYS before 9/11. Infocom is another Ptech linked grouped

8. The Memphis TN "maintence" Muslim gang and the WTC sublevel pass:
whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/SakherHammad_WTC_9-11.html
911review.org/Sept11Wiki/DenkoMechanical.shtml
www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/114378

9. Golden Chain: The Choosing of the Florida flight schools, bin Laden financing,
and high level Saudi financiers(intimately tied to the Bushs and US government)

Evidence now shows bin Laden's brothers corporation had a hand in handpicking the CIA drug linked
Florida flight schools:
ftrsummary.blogspot.com/2005/03/ftr-498-499-911-update-sico-file-sico.html
ftrsummary.blogspot.com/2005_02_08_ftrsummary_archive.html
spitfirelist.com/?p=226
spitfirelist.com/?p=108

10. How come the media or anyone talks about how the hijackers were being financed by Bush's close Saudi pals through Bush owned banks(Riggs) while living with a Saudi intelligence liason and an FBI informant?
www.newsweek.com/id/66665

11. Israeli Mossad and White Vans on 9/11:
You all know about the 8 white vans of "Israeli" spies posing or calling as Arab terrorists.
But, there was yet ANOTHER van of "Arabs" on 9/11....
On the morning of 9/11, President George W. Bush was at the Colony Beach and Tennis Resort on Longboat Key, Florida.[18] He woke up around 6:00 AM and prepared for his morning jog.[19][20] A van occupied by men of Middle Eastern descent arrived at the Colony Beach Resort and claimed they had a "poolside" interview with the President. They did not have an appointment and were turned away.[21] It is possible this was an assassination attempt modeled on the one used on anti-Taliban fighter and Northern Alliance military leader Ahmed Massoud two days earlier. The previous April, Massoud addressed the European Parliament and warned of the possibility of al-Qaeda attacking in the West.[22][23] Longboat Key Fire Marshal Carroll Mooneyhan was reported to have overheard the conversation between the men and the Secret Service, but he later denied the report. The newspaper that reported this, the Longboat Observer, stands by its story.[24] Both Mooneyhan and the Observer reporter were questioned by the Secret Service, but the agency has not commented further.[24] Witnesses have recalled seeing 9/11 hijacker ringleader Mohamed Atta in the Longboat Key Holiday Inn a short distance from where Bush was staying as recently as September 7, the day Bush’s Sarasota appearance was publicly announced.[24][25]

And remember how its been reported some of the Israeli spies Fox News talked about were
living NEXT TO the hijackers in Hollywood Florida? And then Atta and company right near Bush
just days prior?

13. WHO REALLY was on those "bin Laden/US chartered flights*
At least FIVE high level Saudis involved in 9/11, helping the hijackers and al Qaeda

The son of the Saudi Defense Minister Prince Sultan. Sultan is sued in August 2002 for alleged complicity in the 9/11 plot. [Tampa Tribune, 10/5/2001] He is alleged to have contributed at least $6 million since 1994 to four charities that finance al-Qaeda. [Vanity Fair, 10/2003]

Khalil bin Laden. He has been investigated by the Brazilian government for possible terrorist connections. [Vanity Fair, 10/2003]

Abdullah bin Laden and Omar bin Laden, cousins of bin Laden. Abdullah was the US director of the Muslim charity World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY). The governments of India, Pakistan, Philippines, and Bosnia have all accused WAMY of funding terrorism. These two relatives were investigated by the FBI in 1996 (see February-September 11, 1996) in a case involving espionage, murder, and national security. Their case is reopened on September 19, right after they leave the country. [Vanity Fair, 10/2003] Remarkably, four of the 9/11 hijackers briefly lived in the town of Falls Church, Virginia, three blocks from the WAMY office headed by Abdullah bin Laden. [BBC, 11/6/2001]

Saleh Ibn Abdul Rahman Hussayen. He is a prominent Saudi official who was in the same hotel as three of the hijackers the night before 9/11. He leaves on one of the first flights to Saudi Arabia before the FBI can properly interview him about this. [Washington Post, 10/2/2003]

Akberali Moawalla. A Pakistani and business partner of Osama’s brother Yeslam bin Laden. In 2000, a transfer of over $250 million was made from a bank account belonging jointly to Moawalla and Osama bin Laden (see 2000). [Washington Post, 7/22/2004]

14. New mainstream evidence of al Qadi and Khalid Bin Mahfouz involved in all this:
(as well as the involvement of PROTECTED charities)
www.philly.com/inquirer/hot_topics/20080820_Another_tack_in_terror-financier_lawsuit.html?text=med&c=y

15. There's books written on the financing of 9/11, and how it all got washed through Dubai.
even the WTC7 bank Suntrust. A lot of the money of course came from Saudi and ISI, as well as drug money...but a lot of information on front companies and intel agency financing of Balkan jihadism

16. Front Companies and charities: Tatex Trading, Infocus, Infocom, Ptech, Logan Furniture
WAMY, Holy Land Foundation, Care Intl, Benevolence International, Konsojaya,
The Muwafaq Foundation, etc.

So as you can see, this is merely the tip of the iceberg and there are LOTS of bizarre connections
"We should not be here. I'm scared, this is creepy. You know what I mean? This could go very deep, Carol. This could be like, you know, like with the Warren commission, or something. I don't like it."-Woody Allen, Manhattan Murder Mystery(1993)

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Re: Most Startling 9/11 Evidence(Ptech, Oklahoma, Saudis, etc)
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2009, 04:59:09 PM »
wow ...nice

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Re: Most Startling 9/11 Evidence(Ptech, Oklahoma, Saudis, etc)
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2009, 02:07:02 AM »
wow ...nice

Thanks! Oh I forgot to add:

*Mohammed Atta, brought to Hamberg by an Elderly German couple in 1992. Brought to the Rockefeller/Kissinger tied elite US-German exchange program CDS International. One of the top graduates of the program in 1994. By 1995 Atta was cutting tens of thousands of checks and hawallas to Bosnian jihad, Muslim bakeries, terror charities, etc

Also the heroin bust at the Florida flight school and the ties between Atta and drug smugglers(Wolfgang Boehringer, etc)
"We should not be here. I'm scared, this is creepy. You know what I mean? This could go very deep, Carol. This could be like, you know, like with the Warren commission, or something. I don't like it."-Woody Allen, Manhattan Murder Mystery(1993)

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Re: Most Startling 9/11 Evidence(Ptech, Oklahoma, Saudis, etc)
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Re: Most Startling 9/11 Evidence(Ptech, Oklahoma, Saudis, etc)
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2011, 05:49:13 AM »
. Saudi officials in fancy cars seen at the hijackers San Diego and Falls Church and Vienna Virginia
residences(3 of the hijackers stayed at bin Laden brothers terror funding WAMY center in Virginia)


this ting is opposite US immigrations and customs, and on Wahabbi corridor

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Re: Most Startling 9/11 Evidence(Ptech, Oklahoma, Saudis, etc)
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2011, 07:46:45 AM »
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Prince Bandar
Last Updated: October 08, 2008

Since he first arrived in the United States in 1983, Prince Bandar bin Sultan bin Abdulazziz of Saudi Arabia has been a key player in four presidential administrations,  and personal/business colleague of several powerful US figures, none more so than members of the Bush family.

Never explained, however, is the string of checks from his wife, more than $60,000, that paid US living expenses for two of the 911 hijackers.

Bandar served as the Saudi ambassador to the U.S. for 22 years, and brokered several major deals between the two countries, including covert Iran/Contra exchanges, advanced weapons sales, US troop deployment during the first Iraq war, and payments to Libya to end its WMD buildup.

He was said to show up unannounced, for late-night White House meetings, toting bags of Big Macs. He was a racquetball partner of Colin Powell, invited the Cheney family to his daughter’s wedding.and former President George H.W. Bush was a fishing buddy. He was always the congenial conduit finessing the Royals requirements with the requests of  Washington’s power elite.

Although almost universally liked in Washington circles, Bandar lost much of his public luster after the Sept. 11 attacks, in which 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens.. Just days later however, Bandar was the Saudi key man to get the Bin Laden family and other royals out of the country. The Saudi royal family was named in a lawsuit filed by relatives of  9/11 victims,accusing the Saudis of  financial support of Al Qaeda.

Then it was learned that Bandar’s wife had funneled tens of thousands of dollars to a San Diego couple who’d  hosted two of the hijackers throughout most of 2000. 

In his book Plan of Attack, Bob Woodward reported that Bandar was given an early warning about the U.S. invasion of Iraq, even before Colin Powell was informed. As the U.S. prepared for war in early 2003, Bandar took a lead role in negotiations between the Bush administration and Saudi officials over securing bases and staging grounds. After the invasion, Bandar pledged to protect the world economy from oil shocks by manipulating Saudi oil supply, the White House said in 2004, according to The New York Times. Though he later denied a report published in Woodward’s book that he had promised to stabilize oil prices in time for Bush’s 2004 re-election campaign.

Bandar is the grandson of the late king Abdul Aziz, the founder of modern Saudi Arabia, who initiated his country's historic oil-for-security relationship with the United States when he met Franklin D. Roosevelt on the USS Quincy in the Suez Canal on Feb. 14, 1945. He was born an illegitimate son of Sultan bin Abdul Aziz, who was one of the seven sons of Abdul Aziz and his favorite wife. Though scarcely acknowledged by his own father, Bandar caught the attention and admiration of his uncle, King Fahd. After studying in the United States and Britain, and flying fighter jets for the Saudi Air Force, Bandar found himself in Washington D.C., where, in 1978, he helped President Jimmy Carter persuade Congress to approve a $2.5 billion sale of 60 F-15 fighter jets.

Then, when Carter needed King Fahd to push down oil prices, he sent the request through Bandar. Bandar eased easily into the next administration, and teamed up with President Ronald Reagan in 1981 to convince Congress that Saudi Arabia should be allowed to purchase American-made electronic surveillance aircraft. planes.

In 1982, he was appointed the military attaché at the Saudi embassy, a move he thought would end his career. But in 1983, Bandar was named ambassador, and he quickly became an essential middleman between the U.S. and the world, often operating in the shadows of the diplomatic world. He was engaged in secret negotiations to get the PLO out of Beirut during Israel's Lebanon invasion, and in private talks with Reagan’s national security advisor, Robert McFarlane, Bandar agreed to secure $32 million in Saudi front money for the Nicaraguan Contras in the Iran-Contra scandal.

Bob Woodward alleged in his 1987 book The Veil that Reagan's CIA director enlisted Bandar for a 1985 plot to assassinate Hezbollah spiritual guide Sheikh Fadlullah--a bombing that went awry, missing the intended target and killing 80 people. The Veil also recounts that at the CIA's request, Bandar provided $2 million in Saudi funds to prevent Communists from coming to power in Italy.

During the Soviet war in Afghanistan, Bandar arranged the U.S.-Saudi plan to supply arms to the Afghan mujahideen fighters, and then brokered the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan in 1989. During the Gulf War, Bandar became essentially a shadow member of President George H.W. Bush’s Cabinet, negotiating the deal that sent hundreds of thousands of American troops to Saudi Arabia.

Bandar had a closer relationship with President George H.W. Bush than he did with any other president.  He and Bush began having regular lunches soon after Bush became Reagan’s  vice-president. Bandar believed Bush was the first important American politician he’d known who did not automatically favor Israel, Elsa Walsh wrote in a 2003 profile of Bandar in The New Yorker. From the Start, Bandar had found Bush helpful in advancing the Saudi cause and supportive of Saudi efforts to buy weapons from the U.S. Bandar also liked him personally.

As a member of Saudi Arabia’s royal elite, Bandar didn’t need cash. But as it always seems to always be the case when involving the Bush family, oil and the Kingdom, private profit is never far from the equation. In the three decades since the oil embargo of 1973, the U.S. has bought hundreds of billions of dollars of oil at reasonable prices from Saudi Arabia, and the Saudis have purchased hundreds of billions of dollars of weapons from the U.S. In the process, Bandar, and other members of the Saudi royal family, became billionaires many times over, according to Craig Unger’s book House of Bush, House of Saud.

Often with Bush family co-interests, Bandar and other Arab state royals became some of the most powerful players in American financial markets, investing hundreds of billions of dollars in equities and credit

Bandar and his father have invested in the Carlyle Group, the $60 billion dollar equity firm, where George H.W. Bush was senior adviser for nearly 10 years.

His funds were handled  privately by George HW’s brother Jonathan, and then at the soon scandal ridden Riggs Bank, when Jonathan joined as Bank Division President.Bandar also gave a $1 million gift to the Bush Presidential Library in Texas, that also drew support from the Sultanate of Oman, and Enron Chairman Kenneth Lay, among others.

According to a October 2001 article in the New Yorker by Seymour Hersh, Prince Bandar, while serving as ambassador, was involved in arms deals in London, Yemen, and the Soviet Union that generated millions of dollars in personal "commissions.’’

Bandar also had a personal role in the Riggs Bank scandal. The bank, once Washington’s biggest and most illustrious, imploded in 2004 after being fined $25 million for violating Federal  money-laundering laws.. Riggs never filed``suspicious activity reports’’ to regulators on more than two-dozen large and unusual transactions conducted by Bandar and other officials at the Saudi and Equatorial Guinean embassies going back to 2001. Many of these transactions involved Prince Bandar personally, with him often transferring over $1 million at a time.

Still unanswered are many questions about  Bandar’s wife’s claim of inadvertently supporting two 911 hijackers. Princess Haifia, made monthly payments,, through the Bush connected Riggs Bank to the wife of a San Diego man  Omar Bayoumi,who housed and fed two September 11th hijackers and arranged their introduction to local Islamic leaders.

As the planes struck the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, Bandar  said he felt as if the towers were falling on his own head. Though this was to be the worst political crisis of Bandar’s career in Washington, he quickly  called in all the favors he had gained after years of helping the U.S. out of tight situations.

First, Bandar set up a hotline at the Saudi embassy in Washington for all Saudi nationals in the United States. For the 48 hours immediately following the attacks, he stayed in constant contact with Secretary of State Colin Powell and National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, according to Unger’s book House of Bush, House of Saud. In all, eight planes left the U.S., with about 140 Saudis, including 24 members of the Bin Laden family who were scattered across the U.S. from Tampa, FL to Lexington, KY, Unger reports.

The White House has said the flight from Tampa did not take place: it didn’t even appear on the FAA’s log. The FBI has said ``unequivocally’’ it played no role in facilitating any flights, Unger said. Nonetheless, payments for the charter flights were made in advance through a wire transfer from the Saudi embassy, Unger writes, indicating that the entire operation had high-level approval from the U.S. government, according to Unger.

One of the men on the outbound flights was Prince Ahmed bin Salman. As reported by Gerald Posner in his book Why America Slept, Prince Ahmed had alleged ties to Al Qaeda, and may have even known in advance that the attacks would occur on 9/11. In their books, both Posner and Unger allege that Prince Ahmed was named by Abu Zubaydah, Al-Qaeda’s chief of field operations, as the go-between for the terrorist group and the Saudi Royal family. Prince Ahmed’s friends and associates in Saudi Arabia and the U.S. strongly dispute the claim.

On June 26, 2005, Prince Bandar resigned his ambassadorship for "personal reasons." His return to Saudi Arabia was announced just weeks prior to the death of King Fahd, after which Bandar's father, Sultan bin Abdul Aziz, became the nation's Crown Prince. Some speculated that Bandar's return was timed in order to secure a position in the new government, while other observers in Washington cited Bandar’s health problems, including a long battle with depression. In October 2005 he became the Kingdom's national security chief.

Bandar has continued to play a prominent role in U.S. policy, however, making visits – sometimes in secret – to the U.S. Seymour Hersh wrote in a March 2007 article in The New Yorker that Bandar has been instrumental in the U.S. policy of ``redirection’’ in the Middle East, with Saudi Arabia cooperating with the Bush administration in clandestine operations against Hezbollah, Iran and Syria. Hersh cites Bandar as among the key players, though doesn’t mention Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice. [Why mention the non-mention of Rice specifically? Aren’t there an infinite number of people ‘not mentioned’ by Hersh?]

One of the things that makes Bandar an indispensable subcontractor on Middle East diplomacy is his ability to talk directly to Iranian officials, Hamas or Hezbollah. The American Secretary of State, however, is handcuffed by U.S. policy from doing so, according to an article posted by Scott MacLeod in February 2007 on Time magazine’s web site.

Yet by the spring of 2007, ``Bandar Bush,’’ as he is sometimes called, found himself between a rock and a hard place. He is expected to tow his country’s party line, which has become more independent and less pro-American in the wake of the Iraq war, and a damaged image of the U.S. in the Muslim world. At times, this has led Bandar to clash with the new King Abdullah, his uncle, over policy decisions. He often finds himself at odds with the U.S., and unable to reconcile the two sides as before.

All this has steered America’s relationship with its staunchest Arab ally into uncharted waters, where Bandar may no longer be able to serve as an infallible beacon of Saudi intent. Most bitingly, during a speech before Arab heads of state in Riyadh in March, the King Abdullah condemned the American invasion of Iraq as “an illegal foreign occupation.” The Bush administration, caught off guard, was infuriated, and Bandar has since made himself scarce.

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Re: Most Startling 9/11 Evidence(Ptech, Oklahoma, Saudis, etc)
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Wirt D. Walker III
Last Updated: June 06, 2008
Distant Bush relative and internationally connected business exec Wirt Walker led the company that controlled security at the World Trade Center and major D.C. airports in the run-up to 9/11.

That firm, now-bankrupt Stratesec (formerly Securacom), was in partnership with the Kuwaitis and Saudis. The Kuwaiti-American Corporation (KuwAm) investment firm—which Walker co-chaired alongside Kuwaiti royal Mishal Yousef Saud Al Sabah.

KuwAm and Stratesec/Securacom shared office space leased by the Kuwaiti and Saudi governments at the Watergate in D.C. In addition to the WTC, clients included United Airlines, Dulles Airport and Reagan National Airport. Dulles is where Flight 77 originated on 9/11, on its way to the Pentagon

KuwAm also bankrolled a Walker-led aviation company that sold planes to a flight school in the hometown of one of the 9/11 hijackers. None of these connections were examined in post-9/11 government investigations.

Walker’s cousin Marvin Bush, President Bush’s younger brother, sat on Stratesec/Securacom’s board of directors from ’93 to 2000. Bush joined the company after it received an infusion of KuwAm cash. Bush also served as a KuwAm director.

Despite limitless financing and KuwAm and Stratesec/Securacom were poorly run, but managed to stay afloat for years thanks to Marvin’s ability to lure investors.

Walker’s aircraft company, KuwAm-backed Aviation General (formerly Commander Aircraft), also declared bankruptcy, though it was contracted to sell airplanes to the National Civil Aviation Training Organization (NCATO) of Giza, Egypt.

Set up in the hometown of 9/11 ringleader Mohammed Atta., it had been trumpeted as "the first civilian pilot training organization in the Middle East,"

NCATO had a partnership with Florida flight school Embry-Riddle, from which one of the 9-11 hijackers graduated.

Marvin Bush’s last year with Stratesec/Securacom coincided with his first year on the board of HCC Insurance (formerly Houston Casualty Co.)—one of the WTC’s insurance carriers.

He departed from HCC in November ‘02, the same day as the passage of the 9-11 insurance bailout legislation passed by Congress at the instigation of the White House. Both HCC and KuwAm benefitted from limitations on liability and national-security protections provided in that legislation.

Stratesec/Securacom went bankrupt in ‘02, and both Walker and Al Sabah faced the federal civil lawsuits of angry investors. Al Sabah fled the country, and will be arrested for contempt of court if he returns. The status of the lawsuit is has not been made public.


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www.margieburns.com/blog/_archives/2006/2/26/1784217.html
“TRIMMING THE BUSHES: Family Business at the Watergate,” American Spectator, Margie Burns, February 15, 2005, www.washingtonspectator.com/articles/20050215bushes_1.cfm www.politicalfriendster.com/rateConnection.php?id1=297&id2=2566< /a>
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Julie Sirrs is a former analyst at the Defense Intelligence Agency, who was fired after she returned to Washington with information she had gathered on the Taliban and al-Qaeda on independent reporting trips. In the late 1990s, years before the terror attacks of September 11, 2001, Sirrs had compiled extensive information on Osama bin Laden’s terror network – information that was, for the most part, completely ignored.

As a high-school student in Virginia, Sirrs became fascinated with the history and culture of Afghanistan. She studied Persian and Pashto, and after she graduated Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service, she joined the D.I.A. as a military analyst.

She made her first independent trip to Afghanistan in October 1997, soon after U.S. intelligence learned Osama bin Laden had moved his terrorist operations to the country from Sudan. During the next year, two American embassies in Africa were bombed, and the U.S. suspected the al-Qaeda network was to blame. But beyond two missile strikes, U.S. intelligence agencies weren’t concentrating on getting operatives on the ground.

A year later, in October 1998, Sirrs used her private vacation time to travel back to Afghanistan. She says that she informed all relevant security bodies at the D.I.A., and that her trip was cleared by the agency. In Afghanistan, she was received by Ahmed Shah Massoud, an anti-Taliban warlord and leader of the Northern Alliance. At their meeting, Massoud told her that he had proof that Unocal, the California-based energy conglomerate, had provided the Taliban with money that it used to capture Kabul. State Department officials had advocated for building the pipeline, and Unocal had taken on former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger as a paid consultant.

Sirrs noted the disparity in financial resources between the Taliban and Northern Alliance fighters. “With even a little aid to the Afghan resistance, we could have pushed the Taliban out of power,” she said in an interview after the trip. “But there was great reluctance by the State Department and the C.I.A. to undertake that.”

She returned to Washington with extensive notes from her interviews. The report she prepared outlined the formation of al-Qaeda’s terrorist army, complete with maps and photographs. But when her flight landed back in the U.S., she was met by agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, who confiscated her belongings and told her she was under investigation for espionage.

At the D.I.A., her report was suppressed. One former colleague told the New York Observer, that, “They were so intent on getting rid of her, the last thing they wanted to pay attention to was any information she had.” Government investigators charge Sirrs with lying and breaching security protocol. She was forced to leave the D.I.A., and was stripped of her security clearance.

In testimony before Congress in 2004, Rep. Dana Rohrabacher defended Sirrs, and suggested her legal persecution was led by Lieutenant General Patrick Hughes, then a D.I.A. official, and who now holds a high-ranking position at the Department of Homeland Security.


Sources

The New York Observer, “Ex-Spook Sirrs: Early Osama Call Got Her Ejected,” March, 11, 2004: gailsheehy.com/articles/2004/03/11/ex-spook-sirrs-early-osama-call-g ot-her-ejected/
Congressional Testimony by Rep. Dana Rohrabacher: rohrabacher.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=17093

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Re: Most Startling 9/11 Evidence(Ptech, Oklahoma, Saudis, etc)
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2012, 09:09:38 AM »

2. Oklahoma City John Doe No 2 suspect Husseini al Hussein was one of the baggage handlers at Boston Logan the morning of 9/11


He worked there as a chef in the late 1990s, but never been able to confirm the baggage handler thing.

can anyone help

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Re: Most Startling 9/11 Evidence(Ptech, Oklahoma, Saudis, etc)
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2012, 09:12:27 AM »
5. Saudi officials in fancy cars seen at the hijackers San Diego and Falls Church and Vienna Virginia
residences(3 of the hijackers stayed at bin Laden brothers terror funding WAMY center in Virginia)
And then not far from NSA headquartes, who themselves were tracking al Qaeda and bin Laden's
every move.

There are witnesses who saw rich Saudis in Florida too.
Id be interested in knowing more about these non Florida sightings

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Re: Most Startling 9/11 Evidence(Ptech, Oklahoma, Saudis, etc)
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2012, 09:31:29 AM »
AN Irish-based charity has been implicated in last weeks terrorism at the Twin Towers in New York and the Pentagon in Washington.

Two men closely linked to a Dublin-based organisation, Mercy International Relief Agency, are now believed by international investigators to be linked to the Saudi billionaire terrorist Osama bin Laden, the man being blamed for the 60 minutes of carnage that shocked the world.

American security sources have identified Hamid Aich, one of five suspected Islamic terrorists arrested by Gardaí in Dublin last December, as a link to bin Laden and his terrorist organisation.

Aich, an Algerian, lived for three years in a suburb of the Canadian city of Vancouver, before moving to Ireland where he was associated with Mercy International Relief Agency, an Islamic charity whose director received calls from bin Laden's mobile phone.

Another director of this Dublin charity is Dr Safar al-Hawali, an Islamic fundamentalist, who was recently singled out for praise by bin Laden when he was announcing his "war" on America.

The charity company was dissolved in early 1998.

Jamal a Fadl, a defector from bin Laden's organisation, known by its Arabic title Al Qaeda (The Base), entered a witness-protection programme in the US and gave evidence against his former fundamentalist colleagues.

He said that money for terrorists acts and the maintenance of the organisation's cells was channelled through the Dublin-based Mercy International Relief Agency.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/irishbased-charity-has-links-with-terrorists-510439.html

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Re: Most Startling 9/11 Evidence(Ptech, Oklahoma, Saudis, etc)
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2012, 09:37:05 AM »
Author Jon Ronson asked Stuart Heller if he could name one soldier who was "the living embodiment" of the First Earth Battalion. Without a second thought, Heller replied: "Bert Rodriguez." "Bert's one of the most spiritual guys I've ever met," Heller told Ronson. "No. Spiritual is the wrong word. He's occultic. He's like a walking embodiment of death. He's a street fighter from Cuba."

As Jon Ronson reported it, In April 2001, Bert Rodriguez had taken on a new student.

His name was Ziad Jarrah.

Jarrah presented himself as a Lebanese businessman, who traveled a great deal and wanted to protect himself. Ziad just turned up at the US 1 Fitness Center one day and said he had heard that Bert was good. Maybe Bert's uniquely occultic reputation preceded him, or perhaps it was Bert's military connections. Plus, Bert had once taught the head of security for a Saudi prince. Maybe that was it.

"I liked Ziad a lot," said Rodriguez who taught Jarrah, "the choke hold and the kamikaze spirit."

"You need a code you'd die for, a do-or-die desire." Rodriguez added, "Ziad was like Luke Skywalker. You know when Luke walks the invisible path? You have to believe it's there. And if you do believe it, it is there. Yeah. Ziad believed it. He was like Luke Skywalker."

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Re: Most Startling 9/11 Evidence(Ptech, Oklahoma, Saudis, etc)
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2012, 09:57:03 AM »
Kavaja was a central figure in an allegedly CIA-funded group called Freedom for the Serbian Fatherland (SOPO). Kavaja claimed that this organization bombed Yugoslav embassies in Washington, D.C. and Ottawa, Canada, and consulates in New York City, Chicago, San Francisco and Toronto.

In 1978, Kavaja and SOPO companions numbering over one hundred were arrested in New York by U.S. law enforcement. Kavaja was released on $250,000 bail, and after visiting his family in New York, he promptly hijacked an American Airlines 727 (Flight 293 from New York City to Chicago).

He planned to demand Kajević's release, then fly to Belgrade and crash into Ušće Tower, the Communist Central Committee Building.

Kavaja later claimed in numerous interviews with Serbian newspapers that Osama bin Laden stole his idea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Kavaja

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Re: Most Startling 9/11 Evidence(Ptech, Oklahoma, Saudis, etc)
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2012, 10:10:11 AM »
It's abundantly clear, and admittedly so by the poster, that he is here to deflect the attacks against the real perpetrators onto those that have been accessories, aiders and abettors, willingly or not, to the NWO mass ritual murder of 9/11 and the ensuing agenda of reshaping the world including America itself in a 'post-9/11' world. I don't think this will fly with any educated audience, although I must admit that the growing segment of AJ's white supremacist christianoids can easily buy into the new trutheroid narrative that the Arabs indeed were 'deeply' involved in 9/11.. Admittedly, the islamophobic agenda is making inroads into the half-truths movement.

These so-called evidence is being source from liars that will selectively tell about the supposed involvement of Arabs/Muslims with stories that cannot be verified independently and credibly, especially from a comprehensive view of what is/was really going on, and who will omit the most blatant evidence of 9/11 being an inside job and instead focus on the patsies all day long, cannot possibly be posted here so consistently and massively unless there is a real agenda by the real perps to divert attention away from them. Will they be successful?
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Re: Most Startling 9/11 Evidence(Ptech, Oklahoma, Saudis, etc)
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2012, 10:36:46 AM »
Btw, I expect Mossad/CIA/MI6 agents like worcesteradam to come here in the very near future and tell us that the agenda of the medical industrial complex to poison Americans and the world and make money from their slow deaths is in fact an Arab/Muslim conspiracy and prove this by mentioning countless names of Arabs/Muslims that run pharmaceutical businesses or labs in America or own shares in such companies, maybe in Monsanto, which makes Monsanto and the rest of the NWO companies a disguised operation by the Arabs/Muslims to kill off their enemies by investing in these companies and slowly implementing an Arab/Islamic agenda of taking over the world by stealth.

That would sound very plausible in the very near future in the half-truths movement.
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Re: Most Startling 9/11 Evidence(Ptech, Oklahoma, Saudis, etc)
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2012, 10:49:09 AM »
One of the media outlets in the 'patriot movement' that seems to have been intellectually strong enough to resist the islamophobic agenda within the so-called truth movement is the Intel Report on Liberty Tree Radio with Mark Koernke. He speaks his educated mind, and he tells it like neither the duped ones like Pastor Butch nor the meek ones only when it comes to Jews and Zionism like AJ would ever dare to. For the sake of nothing but the truth.


http://home.comcast.net/~intelrptadmin/ArchivePage.html
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Re: Most Startling 9/11 Evidence(Ptech, Oklahoma, Saudis, etc)
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2012, 12:32:16 PM »
Wasnt Mark Koernke linked to the OKC bombing.
And that website you linked to asks people to donate to the Hutaree militia, which Timothy McVeigh was possibly involved in founding.

If anyones a fed here, id say its you.
Also snitch-jacketing is a fed technique.

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Re: Most Startling 9/11 Evidence(Ptech, Oklahoma, Saudis, etc)
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2012, 12:36:46 PM »
ok, its my mistake, its the Michigan Militia that McVeigh was involved with

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Re: Most Startling 9/11 Evidence(Ptech, Oklahoma, Saudis, etc)
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2012, 01:15:29 PM »
9/11 whistleblower Richard Andrew Groves worked for a company called Silverstream. The company was acquired by Novell in 2001/2ish

Another firm acquired by Novell, also in 2001, was Cambridge Technology Partners. CTP was started by a 'John J Donovan,' a retired MIT engineering professor.

Donovan is fascinating.

He appears to be friendly with many top people including: Bush Sr; General Richard Myers; Tip O'Neill and Ted Kennedy.
In 2007 he was convicted of an "elaborate hoax" wherein he shot himself and accused his son of doing it.
His daughter has accused him of child molestation in 2002.
A judge called John Donovan "bizzare."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_J._Donovan

Once Novell had finished with Silverstream in 2006 they replace it with JBoss a company founded by an ex French Special Forces lieutenant.

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Re: Most Startling 9/11 Evidence(Ptech, Oklahoma, Saudis, etc)
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2012, 03:41:25 PM »
Pilots’ uniforms, laptops, a smashed mobile phone and lists of air crew names were hardly typical holiday luggage, but nor did the hotel workers feel it was enough to merit calling the police.

But the day after the guests checked out of the hotel, their odd behaviour suddenly seemed to make sense, to the horror of those who had witnessed it.

On September 11, 2001, as it became clear that Islamic terrorists were responsible for hijacking and crashing four aircraft with the loss of almost 3,000 lives, the hotel staff no doubt feared that their guests were among those responsible.

In fact, as we now know, the three Qatari nationals were all still alive and keeping abreast of the world’s worst terrorist attack from the safety of a hideout in London.
They had left Los Angeles on Sept 10 and flown to Heathrow on an overnight British Airways flight, then laid low for two days before taking another BA plane to Doha, where they quickly disappeared.

The emergence of a secret US embassy dispatch, which detailed the three men’s extensive contact with a suspected fixer in the 9/11 attacks and visits to the eventual targets, raises the disturbing possibility that the US narrowly escaped further carnage because of a last-minute hitch.

Meshal Alhaji, 35, Fahad Abdulla, 36, and Ali Alfehaid, 35, had all been booked on a flight to Washington on Sept 10, 2001, but for some reason failed to board the aircraft. The following day, the same Boeing 757 crashed into the Pentagon.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8296877/WikiLeaks-911-gang-with-pilot-uniforms-fled-to-London.html

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Re: Most Startling 9/11 Evidence(Ptech, Oklahoma, Saudis, etc)
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2017, 07:01:03 PM »
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Flashback to 2001. According to witness reports, Nick Berg frequented the campus of Norman Oklahoma and was seen hanging out with a man named Hussein al Attas. al Attas had just come from the FBI informant's house in San Diego where he had been staying with some of the 9/11 hijackers, and before that he was staying at Infocus chairmen Yuzid Sufaat's condo in Kuala Lampar Malaysia. It was HIS condo where Khalid Sheikh Mohamed, Indonesian JI head Hambali, Nawaf al Hazmi and Khalid al Midhar were monitored by the CIA as having a "9/11-USS Cole" meeting.
And who is hanging with Nick Berg and rooming with al Attas?
Zacharius Moussaoui.

This is where it gets *really* weird.

Zacarious Moussaoui entered the US on a business VISA, unlike the jihadi hijackers. He came as the US representative of Malaysian company Infocus Tech. This company was quietly run by Yazid Sufaat.

Post 9/11 the company announced they had no US subsidiaries and their only US link was a distributor of their software. This turned out to be Dallas TX based IEX.com Corp. Although a software company IEX clients were all in the Telecom industry, indeed thats why they moved to North Richardson, so they could be near clients in the telecoms corridor there.

The most obvious connection here is that in 2002, Nick Bergs family started a telecoms company, Prometheus Tower Services. Berg was clearly an electronics whiz, he had designed many of his own devices such as a truth detector.

This really begs a lot of questions about Infocus Tech. The company is under the radar but is it in fact part of the terror conspiracy? What was the true role/purpose of Moussaoui in the US. Never been satisfactorily answered, has it?
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