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« on: April 28, 2009, 01:53:59 PM » |
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Pakistan president: Bin Laden dead? Pakistan's president said Monday his intelligence agencies believe Osama bin Laden may be dead, but he added there is no proof. Other Pakistani officials and a U.S. counterterrorism official said they thought the al-Qaida chief is alive.
By NAHAL TOOSI The Associated Press PREV 1 of 2 NEXT
President Asif Ali Zardari ISLAMABAD — Pakistan's president said Monday his intelligence agencies believe Osama bin Laden may be dead, but he added there is no proof. Other Pakistani officials and a U.S. counterterrorism official said they thought the al-Qaida chief is alive.
U.S. officials said bin Laden is most likely hiding in the mountains along Pakistan's border with Afghanistan, in particular the lawless tribal regions.
"We continue to believe that bin Laden is alive," said the U.S. official, who declined to be named because he was not authorized to discuss the matter on the record.
Reports of bin Laden's death, as well as of near-captures, have punctuated his years on the run since the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S., only to be seemingly debunked by periodic audio and video recordings.
The latest recordings emerged in March, in which bin Laden referred to the December-January Israeli offensive in the Gaza Strip, calling it a "holocaust," and spoke of the January election of Somalia's U.N.-backed president, calling for him to be overthrown.
In an interview Monday with international media outlets, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari said American officials had told him they do not know where bin Laden is.
"They are much more informed," Zardari said. "They've been actually after him for a longer time. They've got more equipment. They've got more intelligence ... so they tell us they have no trace at the moment."
Zardari said Pakistani intelligence agencies "obviously feel that he does not exist anymore," but he didn't say how or when they reached that conclusion. He quickly qualified his comment, saying bin Laden "may be dead."
"That's not confirmed. We can't confirm that," he said. "It's still in between fiction and fact."
Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani, appearing later Monday with his visiting British counterpart at a news conference, seemed surprised when a reporter asked about Zardari's remarks.
"I don't know what are the comments of the president, but at the same time, I must clarify this, that nobody knows about Osama bin Laden," Gilani said. "We don't know about it, whether he is alive or dead."
Mahmood Shah, a former security chief in the tribal regions, said he believes bin Laden is alive. "Where, I don't know. If he had died, we would have heard a lot of noise among the militants. From that I'd guess that he is alive," he said.
Ben Venzke, director of IntelCenter, the U.S. contractor that tracks extremist propaganda, said it was unlikely al-Qaida would keep bin Laden's death a secret.
"Bin Laden's death will likely be celebrated by the group and its affiliates as him having achieved martyrdom, as opposed to the group seeing it as a crushing and demoralizing blow," Venzke said. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2009134928_afpak28.htmlTo me this sounds either like the Pakistani president is desperate to keep the US from attacking the country, or that the US is lying and desperately want's to go to war, or both... 
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2009, 06:04:59 PM » |
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The last Pakistan official who said Osama was dead ended up being killed.
RIP benazir bhutto
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2009, 06:22:32 PM » |
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How many times can 1 man die?
The French reported him dead around 2 years ago.
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I'm a human being, g*ddammit, my life has value
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2009, 06:51:54 PM » |
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yes there is video on youTube of Benazir Bhutto stating the same shortly before she was assassinated
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"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my children may have peace." Thomas Paine
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2009, 06:52:46 PM » |
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One thing is for sure, he's either dead or alive.
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War Is Peace - Freedom Is Slavery - Ignorance Is Strength
"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2009, 06:56:13 PM » |
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One thing is for sure, he's either dead or alive.
Or frozen in the Svaalbard seed vault! They'll wake him up when it's time to help plant heirloom tomatoes.
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2009, 06:57:16 PM » |
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Or frozen in the Svaalbard seed vault! They'll wake him up when it's time to help plant heirloom tomatoes.

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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2009, 06:59:52 PM » |
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He's not dead or we wouldnt have any weed to smoke 
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 "Do not let your hatred of a people incite you to aggression." Qur'an 5:2 At the heart of that Western freedom and democracy is the belief that the individual man, the child of God, is the touchstone of value..." -RFK
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2009, 03:05:43 AM » |
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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2009, 05:57:07 AM » |
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NO, i got it. People are soooo dumb they will tell us the ghost of bin ladin is trying to get us......
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2009, 07:03:38 AM » |
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yes there is video on youTube of Benazir Bhutto stating the same shortly before she was assassinated
 Did I say he was dead?... I meant to say "He`s alive, alive, alive I tell you, he`s never been healthier or more inclined to hate us all for our freedom" Phew, that was a close call. 
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2009, 07:19:42 AM » |
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Ha! yeah, saw that one. I think Lord Obama's busy schedule would conflict slightly with that morphing claim. Has anyone checked, just in case? Mike
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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2009, 07:34:11 AM » |
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Maybe he died from the swine flu.
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2009, 11:23:53 AM » |
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The similarities are striking though! 
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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2009, 05:54:42 PM » |
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 Did I say he was dead?... I meant to say "He`s alive, alive, alive I tell you, he`s never been healthier or more inclined to hate us all for our freedom" Phew, that was a close call.  HAAHAHAA!!!!!!! that was the most hilarious thing i've read in days! thank you.. *now* i can drag myself away from the forum for a while
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« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2009, 06:00:29 PM » |
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My Aunt's cousins former roommates brothers who once dated Obama's maid said that Osama is frozen right beside Walt Disney...
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The resistance starts here. Unfortunately, the entire thing is moving beyond the intellectual infowar. I vow I will not make an overt rush at violent authority, until authority makes it's violent rush at me and you. I will not falter, I will not die in this course. For that is how they win.
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