How would I obtain a firearm to protect my family?

[chrsswtzr]

I have a colorful background with misdemeanors in different states, and others dismissed but still viewable to those who want to discover their existence (as I found out through background checks for special employment positions) and I really need to obtain a firearms to protect my family.

My wife is opposed to it, but I really want a firearms, God forbid the situation arises when I need it to protect myself and my bloodline, my family.

I truly appreciate any advice or experience on this matter with todays state of things.

[KoWBoY]

A colorful background doesn't tell much as to what kind of person you are.

What types of crimes have you committed?
 
Are you responsible enough to own a firearm?

Have you had any experience with shooting or handling firearms?

Why is your wife against you having a firearm? 

[fatguyinspandex]

Do they do a backround check for rifles/shotguns? At gander mountian they make you fill out a form and you can take the gun that with you when you leave.. but i dont know for sure. as for your wife get a trigger lock and an ammo box with a lock on it. .

[chrsswtzr]

A colorful background doesn't tell much as to what kind of person you are.

What types of crimes have you committed?
 
Are you responsible enough to own a firearm?

Have you had any experience with shooting or handling firearms?

Why is your wife against you having a firearm? 

I'm a recovered drug addict/alcoholic who is long removed from a drink or a drug, but I have drug offenses on my record, all misdemeanors. I'm a very passive person, no violence on my record or in my history as a human being for that matter. My father is retired Navy/DoD and I've been trained with proper use of firearms, so I do have firing/handling/gun safety experience. I am a proud father myself, who just wants to keep my family safe. Yes, I am responsible. My wife just doesn't like guns, we only have one steak knife in the house for God's sake!

[KoWBoY]

I'm a recovered drug addict/alcoholic who is long removed from a drink or a drug, but I have drug offenses on my record, all misdemeanors. I'm a very passive person, no violence on my record or in my history as a human being for that matter. My father is retired Navy/DoD and I've been trained with proper use of firearms, so I do have firing/handling/gun safety experience. I am a proud father myself, who just wants to keep my family safe. Yes, I am responsible. My wife just doesn't like guns, we only have one steak knife in the house for God's sake!

Don't take me wrong. I am not condemning or judging. Just getting an idea of what you are dealing with.

I don't see where there would be any problem with misdemeanors depending on what state you live in and how the laws are set up. Probably the first thing you might do is just go find what type of firearm you are wanting and try to purchase it. If you are prevented from buying the firearm then seek out other means to acquire one.

As for the wife not liking firearms, that is a personal choice of hers and her right. If she is not totally against firearms you might try helping her learn more about how they work and teach her gun safety. Don't try to force it on her but give her good explanations as to why and how a firearm is not a bad idea if used properly. She may not understand firearms and they just scare her as well as all the negative press and lies used to make people afraid of guns. Let her look at the good and the bad then decide for herself.

[chrsswtzr]

Thanks for your help and input KoWBoY. I will do that in regards to my wife, and I'll try and just walk into a shop and purchase, see what they say!

[fatguyinspandex]

Thanks for your help and input KoWBoY. I will do that in regards to my wife, and I'll try and just walk into a shop and purchase, see what they say!

In MN you need to get a permit to buy a handgun which takes 7-10 days and they do the checking and stuff but if you just go into any place that sells shotguns and rifles and ask the gun clerk what you need to do to perchase they will explain the process.. the lady at gander when i went said i just had to fill out a form and i could take the gun with that day.

[KoWBoY]

Thanks for your help and input KoWBoY. I will do that in regards to my wife, and I'll try and just walk into a shop and purchase, see what they say!

You're welcome. I would just talk with the salesperson and see what they require to purchase firearms. Different states have different policies especially when buying a handgun or pistol.

What kind of firearm are you looking to buy?

[chrsswtzr]

I want a handgun, I think getting a rifle or shot gun would frighten my wife even more than she'll already be!

Any suggestions for a first time gun buyer/owner?

[KoWBoY]

I want a handgun, I think getting a rifle or shot gun would frighten my wife even more than she'll already be!

Any suggestions for a first time gun buyer/owner?

9mm seems to be a popular choice. I prefer .40 s&w or .45 ACP. Are you looking for something in a certain price range or type of gun?

[Neco]

I want a handgun, I think getting a rifle or shot gun would frighten my wife even more than she'll already be!

Any suggestions for a first time gun buyer/owner?

I love my Taurus 1911 .45 Caliber ACP.

It is a knockoff of the more expensive brands but the quality is just as amazing.  It is a big caliber and it has a fair amount of recoil so it isn't for everyone but I would recommend checking it out.

This guy put Punisher hand grips on his.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdO8SijL8UE

[KoWBoY]

I love my Taurus 1911 .45 Caliber ACP.

It is a knockoff of the more expensive brands but the quality is just as amazing.  It is a big caliber and it has a fair amount of recoil so it isn't for everyone but I would recommend checking it out.

This guy put Punisher hand grips on his.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdO8SijL8UE

Taurus has some real good quality guns. What was the price on your 1911 Neco? If you don't mind me asking?

[fatguyinspandex]

Taurus has some real good quality guns. What was the price on your 1911 Neco? If you don't mind me asking?

my buddy got his taurus 1911 and 2 xtra mags for 700

[chrsswtzr]

Price range is a definite issue for me. I live off my hourly rate, no salary, and it's a humble one at that. I will make sacrifices though, this is very important to me. I feel in my heart I need to obtain firearms to safeguard my family.

[scottalexandercowie]

Psa 44:6  For I will not trust in my bow, neither shall my sword save me.
Psa 44:7  But thou hast saved us from our enemies, and hast put them to shame that hated us.

[xTruthSeekerx]

so let your neighbor get dragged off to a fema camp when you got a chance to stop it?

[IridiumKEPfactor]

I have a colorful background with misdemeanors in different states, and others dismissed but still viewable to those who want to discover their existence (as I found out through background checks for special employment positions) and I really need to obtain a firearms to protect my family.

My wife is opposed to it, but I really want a firearms, God forbid the situation arises when I need it to protect myself and my bloodline, my family.

I truly appreciate any advice or experience on this matter with todays state of things.

If you can write No to all these questions you are good or you can buy a firearm from from an individual from the same state without any hassle.

[scottalexandercowie]

so let your neighbor get dragged off to a fema camp when you got a chance to stop it?

Job 38:22  Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,
Job 38:23  Which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war?

[xTruthSeekerx]

english? i dont even get that verse lol

[chrsswtzr]

If you can write No to all these questions you are good or you can buy a firearm from from an individual from the same state without any hassle.

Thanks for the chart. I guess I could purchase a gun then, we'll see. I'll let you folks know how it goes down.

[scottalexandercowie]

english? i dont even get that verse lol

Nor did Job. My point is that we are engaged in a spiritual battle and that God is able. The important thing is to get right with God and know you are saved. Trusting in pea shooters when you are fighting neutron bombs, scalar weaponry, sonic weapons, anthrax and biological and chemical weapons is somewhat unrealistic.

'Hulk smash puny humans' may help your ego but it won't make you safe.

Mat 16:25  For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

Mar 8:35  For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.

Luk 9:24  For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.

Luk 17:33  Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

[xTruthSeekerx]

yes i realize that too but
i am not going to a fema camp
i am not taking injections of death without a fight

[scottalexandercowie]

english? i dont even get that verse lol

Hitler's army was wiped out on the way to Russia, SNOW.

Napoleon same thing.

Spanish Armada sunk rain and hail.

God can fight my battles any day.

Pro 18:10  The name of the LORD is a strong tower: the righteous runneth into it, and is safe.

Psa 61:1  To the chief Musician upon Neginah, A Psalm of David. Hear my cry, O God; attend unto my prayer.
Psa 61:2  From the end of the earth will I cry unto thee, when my heart is overwhelmed: lead me to the rock that is higher than I.
Psa 61:3  For thou hast been a shelter for me, and a strong tower from the enemy.
Psa 61:4  I will abide in thy tabernacle forever: I will trust in the covert of thy wings. Selah.

So you can trust in your guns and your own might if you like.

[scottalexandercowie]

yes i realize that too but
i am not going to a fema camp
i am not taking injections of death without a fight

I'm going to worry about what happens when it happens, getting people saved is my priority ( or at least should be ) but arming up to take the life of brainwashed minions doesn't sit right with me.

[xTruthSeekerx]

uhm i trust in God more than my guns but guns are good to have idk what country your in but here in usa we will be harder hit
and the red terror could of been stopped by armed people the first objective of a tyrannical government is to disarm its people hence why it happened there so don't you dare put words in my mouth i didnt say or even think about you remind me of dophin lay down and die

[chrsswtzr]

What if that brainwashed minion is coming to take YOUR life, would you like to be armed in that situation? Or perhaps take your families life? Maybe torture them in front of you? I'd like to be armed, that's all. I'm a very passive God faring man. Trust and believe.


FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD

Now what does that mean in simple laymen terms? Buy a gun and protect yourself. Be prepared. Trust God, but you must have action as well.

[KoWBoY]

I'm going to worry about what happens when it happens, getting people saved is my priority ( or at least should be ) but arming up to take the life of brainwashed minions doesn't sit right with me.

Wrong board. Pushing religion on me does not sit well with me.

[scottalexandercowie]

What if that brainwashed minion is coming to take YOUR life, would you like to be armed in that situation? Or perhaps take your families life? Maybe torture them in front of you? I'd like to be armed, that's all. I'm a very passive God faring man. Trust and believe.

Trusting in arms is what has got us to this point. Worshipping the god of forces. I'm not telling you to do what you're told and take the shot or go to the camp. I'm telling you that trusting in your slingshots to save you is to put your faith in the wrong thing.

[wembley87]

All i have is a Baseball bat here in England , not much i know , but you wouldnt want it around the back of your skull  

[Neco]

Taurus has some real good quality guns. What was the price on your 1911 Neco? If you don't mind me asking?

I bought mine at a gunshow a couple of months ago for 625.

[KoWBoY]

I bought mine at a gunshow a couple of months ago for 625.

Thanks for the info. I wouldn't mind getting one of those for myself. Trying to see what the average price is.
625 don't sound bad.

[Neco]

Trusting in arms is what has got us to this point. Worshipping the god of forces. I'm not telling you to do what you're told and take the shot or go to the camp. I'm telling you that trusting in your slingshots to save you is to put your faith in the wrong thing.

There was a man who's town was being bombarded with flood waters during the night and he just managed to get to the roof of his household.  He was a devout man and knew that God was going to save him.  A boat passed by but the man refused help because he knew God was going to save him from the flood.  Another boat passed by and then another but the same story.

Eventually the man drowned because the flood waters washed him away.  When he got to heaven he asked God why he didn't save him from the flood waters.  God says, "What do you mean?  I sent three boats.  What more did you want?"

Believe what you may about the Almighty and how he works on this earth.  I believe he empowers men to do his works.  I also believe the people we are fighting right now are of Satan's spawn.  I will use any means necessary to rid the earth of their filth.  

[Neco]

Thanks for the info. I wouldn't mind getting one of those for myself. Trying to see what the average price is.
625 don't sound bad.

It is a real quality handgun.  When I was taking my concealed handgun course there were several people there who own Kimber Custom 1911's (which are the models the Taurus is based off of) and they said they were extremely similar guns.  In fact, for the money they said they would have gone with the Taurus like I did.  It will save you a couple of hundred bucks and not go down on the quality of the firearm. 

The downside is that it is a 1911 and the slide is metal on metal and runs the length of the whole gun so it is essential to keep is clean and keep is lubed up.  If you do that, it is a fantastic sidearm. 

[KoWBoY]

It is a real quality handgun.  When I was taking my concealed handgun course there were several people there who own Kimber Custom 1911's (which are the models the Taurus is based off of) and they said they were extremely similar guns.  In fact, for the money they said they would have gone with the Taurus like I did.  It will save you a couple of hundred bucks and not go down on the quality of the firearm. 

The downside is that it is a 1911 and the slide is metal on metal and runs the length of the whole gun so it is essential to keep is clean and keep is lubed up.  If you do that, it is a fantastic sidearm. 

I like the 1911 design. The Taurus was one I might be able to afford.

That flood story is exactly what I was thinking. 

[Neco]

I like the 1911 design. The Taurus was one I might be able to afford.

That flood story is exactly what I was thinking. 

If you are thinking about a 1911, it is pretty much the most affordable model you can buy besides an older used Colt or something. 

Please, do not get the Rock River Arms 1911.  The thing is a piece from what I have read.

[aerborne]

Trusting in arms is what has got us to this point. Worshipping the god of forces. I'm not telling you to do what you're told and take the shot or go to the camp. I'm telling you that trusting in your slingshots to save you is to put your faith in the wrong thing.

are you implying that David shouldn't have taken up his sling?

[scottalexandercowie]

are you implying that David shouldn't have taken up his sling?

Psa 44:6  For I will not trust in my bow, neither shall my sword save me.
Psa 44:7  But thou hast saved us from our enemies, and hast put them to shame that hated us.

Are you implying that he means he'd rather trust his sling than sword or bow ?

[xTruthSeekerx]

we have trusted the governent and fallen from God not trusting in arms
a gun is like an isnurance policy
if some crackhead breaks in and i got the jump on him, all i can say is tango down if i was disarmed i could be stabbed
something i am not risking

[cladano]

Does anyone know if they make you fill out any paper work at gun shows for Rifle/Shotguns?

It's funny that your wife would worry more about a rifle/shotgun and less about a handgun.   

[Neco]

Does anyone know if they make you fill out any paper work at gun shows for Rifle/Shotguns?

It's funny that your wife would worry more about a rifle/shotgun and less about a handgun.   

The legit dealers will.  You can do trades or cash deals at the shows and get away with it.

Psa 44:6  For I will not trust in my bow, neither shall my sword save me.
Psa 44:7  But thou hast saved us from our enemies, and hast put them to shame that hated us.

Are you implying that he means he'd rather trust his sling than sword or bow ?

Matthew 10:34 - "I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword"

Then Jesus asked them, "When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?" "Nothing," they answered. He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. It is written: `And he was numbered with the transgressors' ; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment." The disciples said, "See, Lord, here are two swords." "That is enough," he replied. (Luke 22:35-38, NIV)