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« on: April 29, 2009, 06:54:58 PM »

http://www.chugai-pharm.co.jp/pdf/annual_report/2009/eAR2009_12_04.pdf

"...For the year, we forecast sales of Tamiflu to reach ¥53.0
billion, up 531.0%, due to expected resumption of government
stockpiling in FY2009 and the ongoing recovery
of the prescription rate for seasonal influenza..."
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2009, 06:56:09 PM »

http://www.chugai-pharm.co.jp/pdf/annual_report/2009/eAR2009_12_04.pdf

"...For the year, we forecast sales of Tamiflu to reach ¥53.0
billion, up 531.0%, due to expected resumption of government
stockpiling in FY2009 and the ongoing recovery
of the prescription rate for seasonal influenza..."

We really need a screen shot of that and exactly how it was found.

Awesome work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2009, 06:58:30 PM »

Motherf****rs gonna profit on people's death.... by killing them even more.... Angry
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2009, 07:01:19 PM »

wow, the smoking gun.
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2009, 07:21:53 PM »

Wow, they must be psychic's!   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2009, 07:24:56 PM »



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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2009, 07:28:25 PM »

That's their 2008 Annual Report, just to be clear (the url subdirectory says 2009). WOW, those are some big projections. Reminds me of the cipro/anthrax thingy in 2001.
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2009, 07:31:41 PM »

Then what's this Novarax business -- collaborators -- disinfo?
Looks like it's Rummy and his buddies.
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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2009, 07:35:29 PM »

Could the stockpile be reaching the end of it's shelf life?  And they need to use it all up so that it will "necessary" to stockpile again?   If they didn't use it up, it would probably be more difficult to justify replenishing the stockpile.   Just think...if they use it all up the next stock pile will have to be BIGGER!

Like I've said many times before... I really think this flu has been around awhile, but they have now just decided to test for it and report it so that it appears that it's a pandemic....a reason to use up the stockpile.   I think if we had been testing to the degree we are now, we would have found that this is not as rare as they are making it out to be and probably is no more deadly than the normal flu.

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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2009, 07:39:39 PM »

Then what's this Novarax business -- collaborators -- disinfo?
Looks like it's Rummy and his buddies.

NOVARAX, ROCHE, MERCK, BAXTER, WHO, CDC, British Crown, Rothschild Banking, Rockefeller Foundation, Queen Beatrix....

This is a 90% depopulation strategy (billions of humans).  There is more than one player.  Take off the blinders that condition us to look for the "lone gunman".
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2009, 07:41:12 PM »

You could be right.  I don't know, but I dont trust Horvitz?/Horowitz? Yet.
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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2009, 07:43:20 PM »

You could be right.  I don't know, but I dont trust Horvitz?/Horowitz? Yet.

you do not trust the man that uncovered the Anthrax/Fort Detrick connection?
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2009, 07:58:59 PM »

I wish i had something to add...BUMP
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2009, 09:32:12 PM »

Could the stockpile be reaching the end of it's shelf life?  And they need to use it all up so that it will "necessary" to stockpile again?   If they didn't use it up, it would probably be more difficult to justify replenishing the stockpile.   Just think...if they use it all up the next stock pile will have to be BIGGER!

Like I've said many times before... I really think this flu has been around awhile, but they have now just decided to test for it and report it so that it appears that it's a pandemic....a reason to use up the stockpile.   I think if we had been testing to the degree we are now, we would have found that this is not as rare as they are making it out to be and probably is no more deadly than the normal flu.


I think you may be onto something.  Tamiflu, introduced in 1999, extended it's shelf life to three years in 2002.

At some point, the shelf life was increased to five years, then in November 2008 it was extended to a shelf life of seven years in some countries, if the storage conditions were right

Oh, looky, looky... from article published October 7, 2005
"Senator Barack Obama, Democrat of Illinois, said in an interview that Michael O. Leavitt, the secretary of health and human services, told senators in a closed-door briefing last week that the administration would soon place an order to raise the government's Tamiflu stockpile to 81 million courses - up from 12 million to 13 million courses expected by the end of 2006. Mr. Obama has long been urging the government to buy more Tamiflu."


So, it appears there were 12-13 million courses already in the US stockpile as of October 2005.  I have Tamiflu in my cupboard from when the whole family got sick with flu.  We were prescribed Tamiflu, but we didn't take it.  My Tamiflu was prescribed in April 2006 and it expires April 2010, so it must have been manufactured in April 2005.   I would hazard a guess and say that the initial Government stockpile of 12-13 million were also from the April 2005 batch.  So, that's 12-13 million courses of Tamiflu that are going to expire April 2010.

The lengthening of the shelf life to seven years in 2008, in theory, should not effect the already produced Tamiflu... as they will already have expiration dates stamped on the box.  Or the storage conditions were not conducive to extending the shelf life.

Yup - looks like there's a shed load of Tamiflu that needs using up!

Edit to add - I am not convinced on these dates entirely and am still digging...
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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2009, 09:37:11 PM »

This thread gets my vote for if this dont wake you up you are a complete moron
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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2009, 09:52:06 PM »

Hmm - it appears that huge Tamiflu stocks were not established in the US until 2006.  This page on the US Chamber of Commerce website says that the stocks would be increased to 20 million in 2006, and an additional 24 million courses were anticipated to be delivered in 2008.  So, it appears there is currently 44 million courses stockpiled, verified by this State distribution map.

We don't know what the stocks were increased 'from' in 2006, but you can bet your bottom dollar they are about to expire in April 2010.

eta: This article suggests that the pre 2006 stockpile was around 5 million.
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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2009, 10:54:50 PM »

NOVARAX, ROCHE, MERCK, BAXTER, WHO, CDC, British Crown, Rothschild Banking, Rockefeller Foundation, Queen Beatrix....

This is a 90% depopulation strategy (billions of humans).  There is more than one player.  Take off the blinders that condition us to look for the "lone gunman".
Absolutely!!! SPOT ON my friend. Listen to Sane, he speaks the truth!!! This is too big... we're not going to turn over a rock and find Dr. Evil stroking his kitten  "Oh nooooo, you found me!!!!" and it's over. Sorry, it won't be like that...
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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2009, 10:59:26 PM »

Hmm - it appears that huge Tamiflu stocks were not established in the US until 2006.  This page on the US Chamber of Commerce website says that the stocks would be increased to 20 million in 2006, and an additional 24 million courses were anticipated to be delivered in 2008.  So, it appears there is currently 44 million courses stockpiled, verified by this State distribution map.

We don't know what the stocks were increased 'from' in 2006, but you can bet your bottom dollar they are about to expire in April 2010.

eta: This article suggests that the pre 2006 stockpile was around 5 million.

Wait!

W T F ?

You are saying it is possible that millions of doses of drugs were going to expire?

Holy Shit!
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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2009, 11:01:09 PM »

wow  Undecided
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« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2009, 02:10:14 AM »



Flyer for your neighborhoods. Mail em to neighbors if you're shy like me.
Put up flyers in bathrooms, ATMs, Gas stations, drive thrus!!!

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« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2009, 02:17:52 AM »

I know Russia today would break this shit Alex need 2 break this they're the only media that will spread it viral The media here wont do it!!!
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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2009, 02:20:00 AM »

Who is hyping up swine flu?

The MSM.

Where do people hear about Tamiflu?

The MSM.

Who can you bet on your bottom dollar has shares in big pharma?

The MSM.

The news is all one big commercial... over and out.
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« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2009, 02:29:04 AM »

The headline story on my local news last night was about Tamiflu , i couldnt beleive it . Everyone was panicking because it was sold out everywhere , then some government health person saying not to worry , we have plenty to go round , the shelves will be fully stocked within a couple of days .
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« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2009, 06:52:13 AM »

Hmm - it appears that huge Tamiflu stocks were not established in the US until 2006.  This page on the US Chamber of Commerce website says that the stocks would be increased to 20 million in 2006, and an additional 24 million courses were anticipated to be delivered in 2008.  So, it appears there is currently 44 million courses stockpiled, verified by this State distribution map.

We don't know what the stocks were increased 'from' in 2006, but you can bet your bottom dollar they are about to expire in April 2010.

eta: This article suggests that the pre 2006 stockpile was around 5 million.
Do you have any evidence suggesting or confirming the expiration dates of any medicine(s)?
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« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2009, 07:20:32 AM »

Posted 11/13/2006] Roche and FDA notified healthcare professionals of revisions to the PRECAUTIONS/Neuropsychiatric Events and Patient Information sections of the prescribing information for Tamiflu, indicated for the treatment of uncomplicated acute illness due to influenza infection in patients 1 year and older who have been symptomatic for no more than 2 days and for the prophylaxis of influenza in patients 1 year and older.There have been postmarketing reports (mostly from Japan) of self-injury and delirium with the use of Tamiflu in patients with influenza. People with the flu, particularly children, may be at an increased risk of self-injury and confusion shortly after taking Tamiflu and should be closely monitored for signs of unusual behavior. A healthcare professional should be contacted immediately if the patient taking Tamiflu shows any signs of unusual behavior


http://www.fda.gov/medwatch/safety/2006/safety06.htm#tamiflu

Roche Laboratories and FDA notified healthcare professionals of new preclinical safety data that have implications for the use of Tamiflu in very young children. Preclinical findings in juvenile rats have raised concerns regarding the use of Tamiflu in infants less than 1 year of age. A single dose of 1000 mg/kg oseltamivir phosphate (about 250 times the recommended dose in children) in 7-day-old rats resulted in deaths associated with levels of oseltamivir phosphate in the brain approximately 1500 times those seen in adult animals. It is likely that these high exposures are related to an immature blood-brain barrier. The clinical significance of these preclinical data to human infants is uncertain. Given the uncertainty in predicting the exposures in infants with immature blood-brain barriers, it is recommended that Tamiflu not be administered to children younger than 1 year.
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« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2009, 07:30:04 AM »


I'm not sure how much this adds to the discussion but as an FYI... According to this website in regards to Tamiflu:

http://www.riverterrace.org/tamiflu/tamiflu-expiration-date-ca195.html

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What is the shelf life of the pills?
The expiry date is mentioned on each blister. It is different for different batches. The shelf life is 2 years from the date of manufacture and would differ from batch to batch depending on when they were manufactured.


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« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2009, 07:45:45 AM »

Posted 11/13/2006] Roche and FDA notified healthcare professionals of revisions to the PRECAUTIONS/Neuropsychiatric Events and Patient Information sections of the prescribing information for Tamiflu, indicated for the treatment of uncomplicated acute illness due to influenza infection in patients 1 year and older who have been symptomatic for no more than 2 days and for the prophylaxis of influenza in patients 1 year and older.There have been postmarketing reports (mostly from Japan) of self-injury and delirium with the use of Tamiflu in patients with influenza. People with the flu, particularly children, may be at an increased risk of self-injury and confusion shortly after taking Tamiflu and should be closely monitored for signs of unusual behavior. A healthcare professional should be contacted immediately if the patient taking Tamiflu shows any signs of unusual behavior


http://www.fda.gov/medwatch/safety/2006/safety06.htm#tamiflu

Roche Laboratories and FDA notified healthcare professionals of new preclinical safety data that have implications for the use of Tamiflu in very young children. Preclinical findings in juvenile rats have raised concerns regarding the use of Tamiflu in infants less than 1 year of age. A single dose of 1000 mg/kg oseltamivir phosphate (about 250 times the recommended dose in children) in 7-day-old rats resulted in deaths associated with levels of oseltamivir phosphate in the brain approximately 1500 times those seen in adult animals. It is likely that these high exposures are related to an immature blood-brain barrier. The clinical significance of these preclinical data to human infants is uncertain. Given the uncertainty in predicting the exposures in infants with immature blood-brain barriers, it is recommended that Tamiflu not be administered to children younger than 1 year.

Thank you for the info, I appreciated the read. +kudos
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« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2009, 09:33:08 AM »

I'm not sure how much this adds to the discussion but as an FYI... According to this website in regards to Tamiflu:

http://www.riverterrace.org/tamiflu/tamiflu-expiration-date-ca195.html

If anyone is seeing bottles of Tamiflu around, check the expiration date.
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« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2009, 09:39:10 AM »

Do you have any evidence suggesting or confirming the expiration dates of any medicine(s)?

Sure - the links in my post #14 should provide enough guidance on the moving goalposts of their expirations dates Smiley

I started a post early this morning but couldn't finish before I had to run off to a meeting.  I took a photo of the Tamiflu box that I was prescribed in April 2006.  The expiration date is April 2010.



This tells me that any stockpiles that were made before the big push in 2006, are going to be the same age or older than the box I have, and therefore should be up for expiry.

edit to add: that lot # must be a red herring - will dig around some more.  We are 99.9% on the time lines on expiration dates and increases, and there was never a 9 year expiration!  Will dig around some more...
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« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2009, 09:42:16 AM »

I'm not sure how much this adds to the discussion but as an FYI... According to this website in regards to Tamiflu:

http://www.riverterrace.org/tamiflu/tamiflu-expiration-date-ca195.html




That must be old info from pre-2002.  My post #14 shows a link to a Roche pdf that increases the expiry to three years.  It was increased again to five years (cannot find a date reference), and was increased again in November 2008 to seven years... they knew that a whole bunch was about expire...  However, there are conditions to the extension and some may not be covered.
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« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2009, 09:55:49 AM »

Sure - the links in my post #14 should provide enough guidance on the moving goalposts of their expirations dates Smiley

I started a post early this morning but couldn't finish before I had to run off to a meeting.  I took a photo of the Tamiflu box that I was prescribed in April 2006.  The expiration date is April 2010.



This tells me that any stockpiles that were made before the big push in 2006, are going to be the same age or older than the box I have, and therefore should be up for expiry.

edit to add: that lot # must be a red herring - will dig around some more.  We are 99.9% on the time lines on expiration dates and increases, and there was never a 9 year expiration!  Will dig around some more...

Wow, there's your smoking gun. Thanks for the reply!
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« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2009, 09:57:11 AM »

Anybody notice the first line:

"Under our Mid-Term Business Plan,“Sunrise 2012,”

Sunrise 2012.....WTF
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« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2009, 09:59:35 AM »

Wow, Jeffro, I must have skimmed right over that one!!! Good eye!! Yikes

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« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2009, 10:03:13 AM »

Ooookay - there's a bunch of links and discussions around the web about Tamiflu batches expiring in 2010.
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« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2009, 10:06:00 AM »

Even articles about the prescriptions that people put in, but did not bother picking up, meaning there are umpty ump boxes of Tamilfu sitting on shelves that are going to expire next year.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/archive/national-news/20430
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« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2009, 10:07:35 AM »


Please copy the text on as much as possible into this thread.  This needs to be printed out and kept by everyone to spread flyers and to give to CDC workers f-ing around in your neighborhood.

PRINT THESE BLOCKBUSTER PIECES OF INFORMATION

HAND THEM TO PEOPLE

INFORM EVERYONE THIS IS A SCAM!!!
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« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2009, 10:09:02 AM »

Anyone good at making pdf's please work on flyers and printouts.

Make sure to quote actual information from MSM sources.

Use their information, their quotes, their experts.

You guys can open a new thread for collaborating.

Thanks guys.
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« Reply #38 on: April 30, 2009, 10:13:32 AM »

Great idea Sane. Thanks for the links aviana, and those photos, the proof is in the pudding as they say it!

Yikes  Embarrassed
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« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2009, 10:18:56 AM »

Great idea Sane. Thanks for the links aviana, and those photos, the proof is in the pudding as they say it!

Yikes  Embarrassed

Sure thing.  Is there any wonder they want to take the 'net down?!  The dirty laundry is everywhere.  I have to get some work done, but will endeavor to organize this info later today - unless someone beats me to it Smiley
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