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« on: April 28, 2009, 08:59:15 AM » |
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Swine Flu Could Have Started In US: Mexican Health Secretary Jose Angel Cordova
As more swine flu cases are reported, Mexico is fighting the claim that the disease started within its borders. The push back is becoming increasingly difficult, especially now that reports are surfacing that the possible source could be a Mexican four-year old named Edgar Hernandez Hernandez.
Mexico's Health Secretary said it was "risky" to blame Mexico for the outbreak:
Mexico, where the number of deaths believed caused by swine flu rose by 50 percent on Monday to 152, is suspected to be the center of the outbreak. But Mexican Health Secretary Jose Angel Cordova late Monday said no one knows where the outbreak began, and implied it may have started in the U.S.
"I think it is very risky to say, or want to say, what the point of origin or dissemination of it is, given that there had already been cases reported in southern California and Texas," Cordova told a press conference.
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2009, 09:03:28 AM » |
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Judging from the amount of shit coming from Washington, it wouldn't surprise me at all, if that's where it started.
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Our founding fathers, if they met the current politicians in office; would either kick their asses good or just shoot them dead. ~Me
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2009, 09:06:27 AM » |
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Even in a crisis the left right paradigm persists
Swine Flu: Conservatives Blame Immigrants
Conservative media hosts, including Michelle Malkin and Glenn Beck, have placed the blame for the spread of swine flu to the United States squarely on the shoulders of undocumented Mexican immigrants. Some even suggested yesterday that Mexicans were purposefully carrying the virus across the border to sabotage the United States.
There's no basis for either claim -- in fact, news reports and health officials suggest that Americans traveling to Mexico likely carried the disease home. For example, several students at the infected school in New York had recently come back from a spring break trip to Cancun.
Rear Adm. Anne Schuchat, M.D., the interim deputy director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's science and public health program, suggested that Americans who visited Mexico recently brought the disease back with them: "I know that we have confirmation of disease in people who have traveled to Mexico, and I don't know the numbers, but I know that that is definitely the case in some of our cases, and that's an important factor to consider." Media reports indicate that U.S. swine flu victims had recently traveled to Mexico.
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“As we know, there are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don’t know we don’t know.” Donald Rumsfield
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2009, 09:12:07 AM » |
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Democrats are blaming GOP for stripping hundreds of millions in "pandemic creation defense systems" from a supposed "stimulus" bill. This is the true agenda for the CDC/WHO to release the swine flu in Mexico City, the NWO wants billions in funding for Orwellian surveillance/tracking/risk management genocide systems.
And the MSM is pushing this hard
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All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2009, 09:13:53 AM » |
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To quote an old teacher of mine
"no one knows anything" Haj BaxterMexican Health Secretary Jose Angel Cordova announced Monday evening that officials have identified who they believe to be the earliest known case of the swine flu outbreak: A four-year-old boy in the village of La Gloria, Veracruz, near the huge Granjas Carroll hog operation, which is co-owned by Smithfield Foods of Virginia. But Mexican hog industry leaders and the Governor of Veracruz State argued that the virus originated in China -- and passed through the United States before reaching Mexico. full article http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/patient-zero-identified-i_b_192008.html
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“As we know, there are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don’t know we don’t know.” Donald Rumsfield
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2009, 09:17:05 AM » |
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How the hell can they make statements like this - it's just absurd. If you wanted to 'seed' the us with a biological agent, but do it outside the borders of the US, you might choose Cancun, where you KNOW thousands of high school/college kids will congregate during school vacation. Mission accomplished. Bring
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2009, 09:23:09 AM » |
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The republicrats would blame a rape victim if they thought they could get away with it. Even in a crisis the left right paradigm persists
Swine Flu: Conservatives Blame Immigrants
Conservative media hosts, including Michelle Malkin and Glenn Beck, have placed the blame for the spread of swine flu to the United States squarely on the shoulders of undocumented Mexican immigrants. Some even suggested yesterday that Mexicans were purposefully carrying the virus across the border to sabotage the United States.
There's no basis for either claim -- in fact, news reports and health officials suggest that Americans traveling to Mexico likely carried the disease home. For example, several students at the infected school in New York had recently come back from a spring break trip to Cancun.
Rear Adm. Anne Schuchat, M.D., the interim deputy director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's science and public health program, suggested that Americans who visited Mexico recently brought the disease back with them: "I know that we have confirmation of disease in people who have traveled to Mexico, and I don't know the numbers, but I know that that is definitely the case in some of our cases, and that's an important factor to consider." Media reports indicate that U.S. swine flu victims had recently traveled to Mexico.
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The resistance starts here. Unfortunately, the entire thing is moving beyond the intellectual infowar. I vow I will not make an overt rush at violent authority, until authority makes it's violent rush at me and you. I will not falter, I will not die in this course. For that is how they win.
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2009, 09:25:49 AM » |
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How the hell can they make statements like this - it's just absurd. If you wanted to 'seed' the us with a biological agent, but do it outside the borders of the US, you might choose Cancun, where you KNOW thousands of high school/college kids will congregate during school vacation. Mission accomplished. Bring
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this was discussed on an earlier thread http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=101338.msg604756#msg604756BTW my sister and her two children returned on sunday night from cancun. fingers crossed |
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“As we know, there are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don’t know we don’t know.” Donald Rumsfield
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2009, 07:45:50 PM » |
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If your not confused enough by the above articles here's one morethese are all headlines in the same goddamm day!!!!!!!!!!!http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_flu_mexico_origin
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“As we know, there are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don’t know we don’t know.” Donald Rumsfield
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2009, 08:13:10 PM » |
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OMG!! Apparently (according to BBC News) hundreds of people in the UK are already seeing their doctors and paying £50 for a prescription of Tamiflu to keep in their medicine cabinets at home, so they can be prepared if and when the virus strikes them!  Also: Very mixed up article on Yahoo News here:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090428/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_swine_flu_mexico_ground_zero;_ylt=Avkgs_i2ywaLZ4uIkC5sWcxvaA8FGet this: Roeder said it's possible someone tending the pigs could have passed a human influenza virus to a pig already infected with another type of swine flu, and then that pig could have also come into contact with a bird virus. Then, the new H1N1 virus formed could have been transmitted back to the workers.  |
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2009, 08:29:11 PM » |
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UK BREAKING:
MEXICO - 159 dead and more than 1300 in hospital (of more than 2000 suspected cases)
Is this anywhere close to the figure's you guys are getting over the pond?
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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2009, 08:39:16 PM » |
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Actually a quick google search did produce some evidence of experimentation on H1N1 in China. Don't know if it is related, but not impossible. Looked like steps in recent years to produce vaccine. Why?
More will be revealed, to be sure.
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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2009, 05:01:39 AM » |
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Roeder said it's possible someone tending the pigs could have passed a human influenza virus to a pig already infected with another type of swine flu, and then that pig could have also come into contact with a bird virus. Then, the new H1N1 virus formed could have been transmitted back to the workers. That's one hell of a menage a tois. And we get called conspiracy theorists |
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