Understanding H5N1+H1N1 exposes eugenics plans of enemy CDC/WHO terrorists

[John Bannon]

Isaiah 54:17 

[Neo]

Any good scientist with a conscience has been eliminated. I personally don't believe this is the big one, just testing the populace psychologically. Just an opinion though. No one can predict sociopathic behavior, no one.

Flashback: List of Dead Scientists
http://www.stevequayle.com/index1.html

[canukvoodoo]

Y'know my 3 yr old is sick as hell right now. sore throat, fever, pink eye to boot. mama just got back from the clinic. I told her to wear a mask and she and the lil one did. OMG looks like she was a trend setter. Every one follwed suit. Funny All three docs and two nurses weren't. Our society is screwed up tighter than Stevie Harpers "A" hole with economy woes. we all know FEAR works as well or better than electric cattle prods. My aunt teaches a lil yoga, one thing i learned. Take DEEP breaths. Count to 10. It's flu season...I totally agree with dilligence in keeping eyes wide open and ears to the ground. Being informed is key to all. But im not gonna lose it till i see it. I think some of the alarm is a little premature and i hope im right. next time may be diff. If we get all frigged up this time then thier conditioning is workin like a charm.

[Unintelligable Name]

Essentially I agree with you.

In any emergency or even minor crisis like this influenza -- if you freak out and panic -- the elite get what they want.

We have to fight intelligently -- and that requires keeping a cool head under stress [not that I think this piggy flu is stressful, I don't]

Hope your little munchkin feels better soon.

[ramallamamama]

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Suggestions for the Acute Management of a H5N1 Pandemic, by redacted

The H5N1 (Asian Avian Flu or "Bird Flu") virus owes its lethality to its ability to instigate pathological immune responses in the host via cytokine storm. This leads to disseminated intravascular coagulation (DIC) and massive infiltration of inflammatory cells into the lungs. Thus, any H5N1 protocol must take into consideration, not only the inhibition of the virus, but also the effects of DIC and alveolar flooding.

Given that there are reports of some patients dying within three hours of initial symptoms, any medical response must be swift and aggressive.

Traditional models for treatment outside of a hospital setting rely upon antiviral medications. This is insufficient as there are now strains of the H5N1 that are resistant to all major antiviral drugs, and furthermore does nothing to address the issues of DIC and alveolar flooding.

Alternative models concentrate on immune stimulating products. This is a dangerous idea as it is the strength of the immune response that makes the H5N1 so deadly. Increasing immune response may prevent an initial infection, but in an infection that has already taken hold, it will only worsen the outcome.

Preventative Measures

Studies suggest that Vitamin E and Selenium may decrease the infectivity and pathogenicity of the H5N1 Avian Influenza. Additionally, air pollutants have shown to increase the risk of contracting the H5N1 Avian Influenza. Raising glutathione, a primary detoxification pathway for petrochemicals may be of benefit. Finally, strengthening capillary walls may be suggested in preparation for a possible hemorrhagic episode.

Acute Management

Current scientific thought holds that the lethality of the H5N1 Avian Influenza may be caused by systemic viral dissemination, cytokine storm and/or alveolar flooding.

As such, an intelligent protocol for supporting the body would be to take these factors into consideration.

The H5N1 Avian Influenza contains the compounds Hemagglutinin and Neuraminidase (also called sialidase). Both of these compounds are required in the infection cycle of certain virus. The drugs Zanamivir and Oseltamivir (Tamiflu) are both Neuraminidase inhibitors. One study suggests that the common Chinese Herb Astragalus may also be a Neuraminidase inhibitor. Since another study suggests that Ca2+ and Mag2+ both speed up the activity of neuraminidase, and that Ca2+ is required for its function, making these elements unavailable via chelation with sodium and potassium citrate may be of use.

Studies also suggest that Lactoferrin, sulfated polysaccharides such as Ceramium Rubrum (Red Marine Algae) and Elderberries may be Hemagglutinin inhibitors. Unfortunately, Elderberry also increases cytokines (see above) especially Tumor Necrosis Factor alpha (TNFa) which is specifically associated with the toxicity of the H5N1 Avian Influenza.

For this reason, ingredients that studies suggest normalize TNFa such as Curcumin and Vitamin E should be considered.

One outcome of a cytokine storm can be disseminated intravascular coagulation (DIC). DIC may be responsible for the massive hemorrhaging seen with the H5N1 Avian Influenza. Thus, in addition to supporting normal cytokine levels, supporting the body in normalizing blood coagulation parameters with nutritional compounds may also be suggested.

The drugs Amantadine and Rimantadine work by inhibiting the matrix protein(s). Studies indicate that Glutathione and Resveratrol may have an effect on matrix proteins as well.

Finally, Lactoferrin may support the body in decreasing infiltration into the lungs of inflammatory cells.

 

Emergency Solution

While I have already manufactured a product that contains all of the ingredients listed, the FDA does not allow for commercial sale alternative products to be made (other than homeopathics) for the bird flu. (While no claims are made nor can be made for a product with these ingredients, those interested in procuring some for research use only can do so by calling the author at: redacted)

 

The following ingredients should be available locally and would be the basis of a makeshift H5N1 survival pack.

1- Curry powder as a source of turmeric to suppress TNFa

2- Red wine with the alcohol boiled off as a source of resveratrol

3- Kelp as a hemagglutinin inhibitor

4- Astragalus as a neuraminidase inhibitor (available at any Chinese herb shop)

5- Vitamin E as a blood thinner (available at any health food store)

Conclusions

Reports of people dying from the H5N1 Influenza in as little as three hours from the first signs of infection suggest the necessity of carrying on one’s person whatever they consider an adequate defense against this infection.

To recap,

In designing such a defense, the key factors to address regarding the H5N1 virus would be:

1- Decreasing the risk of initial infection

2- Decreasing the potential virulence of infection

3- Inhibiting Hemagglutinin

4- Inhibiting Neuraminidase

5- Inhibiting Matrix proteins

6- Binding of viral receptor sites

6- Reduction of calcium and magnesium

6- Decreasing general inflammatory cytokines

7- Decreasing TNF-a in particular

8- Supporting normal platelet activity

9- Decreasing free radical activity in the lungs

10- Minimizing hemorrhage

11- Strengthening blood vessels

12- Protecting against the after effect of hemorrhage

13- Replenishing electrolytes lost to diarrhea

14- Inhibiting secondary infections

[Blowback]

My best friend has a plane ticket for mexico city this coming saturday.  Should I tell him not to go?

[Unintelligable Name]

My best friend has a plane ticket for mexico city this coming saturday.  Should I tell him not to go?

I wouldn't go now for vacation/fun. Shops are closing down and people are getting paranoid -- not fun to be around.

[sociostudent]

I don't care if it's a test run or not....it doesn't mean this story is over, not in the least. From now on, this is going to be something we have to stay on top of because they're using some serious mass mind control techniques in the media. From what I saw this morning, they were going all out with subliminal messaging, NLP, and shock/distraction combo techniques.

[Dok]

I was at my Mother's last night, and watching the news.  There where people at the airport heading to Mexico.  All they said, is "We hope nothing happens"!!  How terrible.  The travel to Mexico, should be stopped.  These people could get it and not have any outward system until they get back home and then spread it.  Why hasn't the travel been stopped.  I don't get it!!

because really there isnt anything to worry about yet. for one only people in Mexico have died, and really lets face the truth here, they do not have the best medical services in the world. Also more people have died from the normal flu in any given year. Im just following the story. When people start dropping in Amerika, and Europe or Canada then ill worry. Heck im only 60 miles away from the case here in Ohio.

[Geolibertarian]

My best friend has a plane ticket for mexico city this coming saturday.  Should I tell him not to go?

In light of the "black op" that's obviously going on down there, why would any rational person need to be talked out of traveling there in the first place?

[Unintelligable Name]

they were going all out with subliminal messaging, NLP, and shock/distraction techniques.

Fear fear fear fear fear fear!

Do what we tell you sheep!

[Boubear]

because really there isnt anything to worry about yet. for one only people in Mexico have died, and really lets face the truth here, they do not have the best medical services in the world. Also more people have died from the normal flu in any given year. Im just following the story. When people start dropping in Amerika, and Europe or Canada then ill worry. Heck im only 60 miles away from the case here in Ohio.

So you don't think it's has bad as they say??  I wouldn't go there even if everything was paid, and they gave me money on top of it.  Why would you want to take that chance.  And the person they where talking to, on the news, was going there with a little baby.  I wouldn't want to put my baby in that situation neither!!

[Lilly Bighorn]

2- Red wine with the alcohol boiled off as a source of resveratrol

not in this lifetime!!! 

[Anti_Illuminati]

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106484775090296685271.0004681a37b713f6b5950&ll=47.100045,9.316406&spn=34.792294,79.101563&t=h&z=4

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[Neo]

I don't care if it's a test run or not....it doesn't mean this story is over, not in the least. From now on, this is going to be something we have to stay on top of because they're using some serious mass mind control techniques in the media. From what I saw this morning, they were going all out with subliminal messaging, NLP, and shock/distraction combo techniques.

I agree, but our focus shouldn't be centralized on this while other things are happening behind our backs. This event could be enable more troops on the streets of America visibly. The fear would justify the means for most people.

[Dok]

So you don't think it's has bad as they say??  I wouldn't go there even if everything was paid, and they gave me money on top of it.  Why would you want to take that chance.  And the person they where talking to, on the news, was going there with a little baby.  I wouldn't want to put my baby in that situation neither!!

well i dont know how bad it really is, i mean all the news we are getting has to be read with a little discernment. But what i do know is that well Mexico is Mexico, a third world country. And really why would any one go there any way with the civil war going on,    just amazes me. And now you have this happen, who knows if theyll close the borders. When people start dying here in Amerika then ill start to worry.

[sociostudent]

I agree, but our focus shouldn't be centralized on this while other things are happening behind our backs. This event could be enable more troops on the streets of America visibly. The fear would justify the means for most people.

I know, but the fear generated by the MSM is what will RESULT in the troops on the streets.

[Neo]

I know, but the fear generated by the MSM is what will RESULT in the troops on the streets.

You're right and the public's already conditioned. Take a look at these comments from people about police checkpoints in Escondido.

I am a supporter of the checkpoints here in Escondido. I have had the unfortunate experience of being a victim of a hit and run, the person that fled was illegal with no license or insurance. I support our local police and thank them! Keep up the good work! -- Natasha

The Federal Government refuses to do their duty in stopping the flood of illegal immigrants. The police are using an unconstitutional method to help protect the citizens from illegals, a high percentage of whom commit crimes against citizens. The fact that they are here makes them a criminal anyway. It is OK with me, but they should only be stopping those people who look like they might be illegals. -- Ed

to the Escondido Police Department. If people have nothing to hide then they have nothing to fear. I hope they keep doing the work they are paid to do "PROTECT AND SERVE". -- John

I believe checkpoints do an extremely good job, but only on holiday weekends when there's partying and celebrating going on to put fear on drivers to not drive home drunk. But the random checkpoints when there's really no need for a checkpoint, specially in a city with a large Hispanic population does go under the 'harassment' category, targeting unlicensed Hispanic drivers. -- Eduardo

Driving without a license, registration and/or insurance is ILLEGAL, no matter what country you are from. Keep up the good work and keep the drunks and unlicensed off the roads! -- Shelly

I think the police are doing an absolutely amazing job with their drivers license check points and I feel there should be more of them. If you are decent citizen and have a valid drivers license what is there to complain about? For those complaining that the check points are truly meant to find illegal immigrants perhaps you should review that last statement. "ILLEGAL" immigrants, hmmm, last time I checked the police are here to enforce the law and being "ILLEGAL" is against that law is it not? -- Tyler

In light of the recent car chase where the life of Douglas Tarry was lost, I've always supported license and insurance checkpoints for the purpose of getting unlicensed, uninsured, intoxicated, and illegal drivers off our roads. This isn't rocket-science and illegal aliens are oftentimes guilty of one or more of these offenses and are likely to hit-and-run if involved in an accident. Illegal alien advocates continue to play the race and their arguments against checkpoints do not have any merit. As a law-abiding citizen who doesn't drive intoxicated, without a license, uninsured, or illegally I've had enough of those who do and put the rest of us in danger. -- Greg

I pay taxes. Illegal immigrants don't. These check points are examples of my tax dollars in use. These check points not only find drivers without a license, they also find wanted fellons, drunk drivers and other criminals. Should we find this practice unfair for everyone who is arrested or cited for violations not related to the check point's original intent? -- Ryan

The Escondido's police dept is doing the right thing due a VERY HIGH volume of people drive with out supend or no driver license, mainly others from different counties they see that is does not matter if they get a ticket due the move back and i know this for fact due work for a private agency that do collection for the court and the tell you oh well they are nothing paying. ENGOUGH IS ENOUGH is not a race issue neither -- Eve

I think that it is a great thing that there having drivers checked to see if they have the proper things to be on our streets they need to have every city doing that maybe everyone can sleep better at night knowing that it is a privalage to drive in the state of Califorina. Some people are upset because the truth does that to everyoone you have to be legal to live here go back to your own country maybe some of us can have our jobs back -- Audrey

On the drivers license checkpoints I used to think it was not a good idea until I got a job driving women to clean homes who did not have a license & therefore no ins. but drove to work and around anyway. They knew the risk involved and took it anyway and said they would hope to drive away should they be involved in an accident. This scares me for me & my family. -- Raymond

Good for Escondido. Keep up the good work at making it safe for your population. Every driver should be licensed and have insurance and if they have that there is "no" need to worry. We as citizens have to pay more insurance because of the number of uninsured drivers. "It ain't right." -- Annetta

If it's just a checkpoint, why are they calling the Boarder Patrol? They shouldn't be looking for immigrants, it's drivers under the influence who they should be looking for.It just doesn't make sense to send for the Boarder Patrol; it's racist. -- Kelly

I guess I just don't understand. Some people believe that police in Escondido are infringing on the rights of persons to not only drive illegally without a license, but to live illegally in the U.S as well? It sounds like a desperate argument to protect those who are breaking the law. -- Andrew

only in the USA people are worried about upsetting illegal immigrants . What don't Americans understand about the word " Illegal ? " . Certainly normal law abidding citizens won't be worried about a simple license check.Stop giving them rights , they choose to enter this coutry illegally...again i'm certain that word in the same definition in ANY country !!!!!!!!! -- Robin

check points for drivers licenses is just one more risk the illegals face. should do it 7/24. -- David

COPS should be out on patrol helping crime. Let boarder Patrol handle the Imigration problem. -- Iris

I think the police officers are merely trying to do their job and to some people, there always has to be an alternative reason when there is not. I do not think there is harassment issues, however if illegal immigrants are stopped, then it is the law that they too should have their vehicle impounded right? They go and hit someone, then they have no insurance to cover it. Illegal is illegal to me -- Samantha

It is really not logical to think that police checkpoints are directed at illegal immigrants or any particular race. Everybody on the road is subject to the same scrutiny and rules. I don't care if you are from Norway! You have to have a lic. ins. and be sober to drive. Don't break rules then you have nothing fear! -- William

Escondido Police have every right to enforce the law at checkpoints. Where in the world can I go and expect to drive without a license? Besides, they have been effective at curtailing crime. This should be continued because it works! -- Charlie

I commend Chief Maher for the job he is doing & hopefully they will keep him status quo. Since when are we allowed to drive sand license DUH ! ! ! Hit & runs are rampant in these illegal communities as they do not have to comply with our laws. OMG Don't get rid of a man who is doing his job in our justice system. I say... return our country to the "old days" when everyone had to comply & our beautiful state wasn't "broke" -- Ellie

http://community.sandiego6.com/blogs/balancedviews/archive/2009/04/22/3934858.aspx

Most in the community know these checkpoints are designed against citizens and this person got it right:

mganz said:
I disagree with the folks on this page regarding drivers license checkpoints it hurts good working American than illegals.  The illegals from Mexico and other countries will get cited by the police and then in court the judge will dismiss all charges and they are free to drive again.

On the other hand, Americans are having their drivers licenses turned off by DMV because they owe the state or federal government money.  Check out Law USC 42 666 that gives them authority to turn off your license and deny you a passport or withdrawal money from your bank account without a court order because you owe a debt virtually setting US Citizens in debtors prisons.

US Citizens are the real target of these checkpoints and the government is paying the police agencies $8K per arrest plus the person has to pay $1,500 plus the debt owed or they never see their car again.  Illegals don't lose their cars or pay money.  I dare you to sit in court and watch these judges let them go when "Paco" speaks through the translator that he has 15 kids to feed, he get his car back, the judge dismisses charge after charge until a US citizen comes up they are fined, fined, and fined.

Our system is broken.  We keep giving the system more and more power of us and they still refuse to do anything to the illegal aliens because it is not politically correct.  Judges and police it doesn't matter, they are not serving us and these checkpoint are only taking away vehicles from good hardworking US citizens that are struggling in this tough economy.

[TheCaliKid]

Can't you guys see how badly this is being hyped?

If this were a bioweapon designed to whipe people out en masse they wouldn't tell you shit about it -- just that it's a good idea to go hug everyone who see on your way to work today!!!

I'm staking my bet that the media is capitalizing on a naturally occuring influenza that originated in the shit hole that is Mexico City.

I will be happy to admit otherwise -- but with solid data and not speculation.

Anyhow that's my vote -- if we were keeping track.

I have had similar thoughts. Let us hope that we are right.

[Boubear]

well i dont know how bad it really is, i mean all the news we are getting has to be read with a little discernment. But what i do know is that well Mexico is Mexico, a third world country. And really why would any one go there any way with the civil war going on,    just amazes me. And now you have this happen, who knows if theyll close the borders. When people start dying here in Amerika then ill start to worry.

Oh I agree with you.  But the thing is people are still going there, so this thing will spread, if they don't shut down the travel.  

[TBPauly]

My best friend has a plane ticket for mexico city this coming saturday.  Should I tell him not to go?

I'd cancel if I could.  They cancelled the schools down there until May 6th, so if things improve, it sounds like they'll improve slowly.

[MarkCentury]

Did you guys just hear that (on Alex's show)...

An eye witness in Mexico says: "People are dying in masses and millions are sick"

This is TOTALLY different than the info we've been getting from news reports.

[Neo]

Did you guys just hear that (on Alex's show)...

An eye witness in Mexico says: "People are dying in masses and millions are sick"

This is TOTALLY different than the info we've been getting from news reports.

Yea, I did. Time will tell. I do remember last summer when they were censoring reports from the hurricane that hit Eastern Texas.

[White Rose Sophie]

As i said before - building up ur immune system might not be the best idea...

That is a good point, however, why have the ones in the U.S. recovered?  Why would it NOT be possible that there are separate strains?  Makes sense to me.  I don't think they want the U.S. targets to die just yet.....this is a practice run, in my opinion.  I think they are gauging reaction, response, and also this gives them the 'cover' to make the 'vaccine'.  However, they do need SOME deaths in order to panic the population, specifically the MEXICAN population...at least for now.  What would happen if the 'flu-weapon' in Mexico was killing people, but there were only isolated cases in the U.S. who didn't die?  When the REAL flu-weapon descends upon them - then the mexican population only have 2 options (in the elite's eyes that is).  They either stay in Mexico and take the 'vaccine"....or the run across the border.  Then you have all the military on the borders to round them up for the Fema camps. Supposedly that  is the 'purpose' of those camps, right?  To hold all the 'illegal' aliens, especially since they would need to be 'quarantined' to make sure they are not flu-carriers.  But, of course, somehow in the run across the border and their 'apprehension' and transport to the 'quarantine' area...they will 'infect' some Americans.  Which of course, will also help in starting some nasty relations between whites and 'hispanics' too.  They get more 'bang for their tyranny buck"!

[Dok]

Did you guys just hear that (on Alex's show)...

An eye witness in Mexico says: "People are dying in masses and millions are sick"

This is TOTALLY different than the info we've been getting from news reports.

i wouldnt by into that just yet.

[Avers]

Did you guys just hear that (on Alex's show)...

An eye witness in Mexico says: "People are dying in masses and millions are sick"

This is TOTALLY different than the info we've been getting from news reports.

Personally I'm not inclined to believe that. Even though Mexico may not be the most connected country in the world, but if 'people are dying in masses', such a story will find its way to the Internet with multiple sources very, very quickly...

[dissident99]

Can't you guys see how badly this is being hyped?

If this were a bioweapon designed to whipe people out en masse they wouldn't tell you shit about it -- just that it's a good idea to go hug everyone who see on your way to work today!!!

I'm staking my bet that the media is capitalizing on a naturally occuring influenza that originated in the shit hole that is Mexico City.

I will be happy to admit otherwise -- but with solid data and not speculation.

Anyhow that's my vote -- if we were keeping track.

This has nothing to do with Mexico .. and I would appreciate it if you would not be insulting of it. Mexico has great qualities and great people  .. That the Government is corrupt and Inept has little to do with the people that inhabit it.
I am sure that people in my other country (Mexico) Think the same of us (North Americans).

[vladimir]

Just a thought. Sorry I don't have any scientific info to add.
  
There are probably a lot of people involved in the creation of the North American Union who are not outright eugenicist humanicides (my coin? killers not just of a genos "race" but of humanity). These people would accept black operations designed to bring Mexico into line with the U.S. and Canada in regard to sanitation and health-care standards. The "swine" flu outbreak may be designed to kick-start a national sanitation upgrade by the government. Already, Calderon is talking about encouraging Mexicans to pay more attention to handwashing and the like. If this planet hadn't been a victim of numerous military bioweapons tests, intentional biogenocide (HIV), and toxic dumping by the corporations; the health standards in Mexico (which are not unlike ours 100 years ago) would be perfectly adequate.
  

[Neo]

The million dollar question is.

Given the hype of worldwide concerns, and the facts that the new flu has shown up already in California, Texas, Kansas and New York, when will Obama go into crisis mode?  Given the criticism that President Bush absorbed over the federal government's response to Katrina, (which most of us know they could have responded timely), I expect the Obama to seize the moment for a step closer to the NAU. To the sheep, he's a problem solver.

[TBPauly]

I wonder if there will be any "market gyrations" come tomorrow over all of this.

[Dok]

Just a thought. Sorry I don't have any scientific info to add.
  
There are probably a lot of people involved in the creation of the North American Union who are not outright eugenicist humanicides (my coin? killers not just of a genos "race" but of humanity). These people would accept black operations designed to bring Mexico into line with the U.S. and Canada in regard to sanitation and health-care standards. The "swine" flu outbreak may be designed to kick-start a national sanitation upgrade by the government. Already, Calderon is talking about encouraging Mexicans to pay more attention to handwashing and the like. If this planet hadn't been a victim of numerous military bioweapons tests, intentional biogenocide (HIV), and toxic dumping by the corporations; the health standards in Mexico (which are not unlike ours 100 years ago) would be perfectly adequate.
  

i was just thinking of that. They set it loose, spread it around the whole of North America, and use it as a pretext to form the union officailly in a way to battle the virus.

[Neo]

I wonder if there will be any "market gyrations" come tomorrow over all of this.

Well the Chicago market is already overreacting>

Swine flu jitters spark sell-off in U.S. hogs
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE53N6CT20090424

CHICAGO (Reuters) - U.S. hog futures fell to a two-month low on Friday in a late sell-off amid nervousness over a swine flu outbreak that has killed up to 61 people in Mexico, a top export market for American pork.

The virus, a strain of flu never seen before, has spread into the United States, where eight people in California and Texas have been infected but have recovered.

"If they (consumers) decide to look at it, it can only be negative. There's nothing positive about it because it's (flu) on our property and then we have to worry about exports," said Gilbert Goodman, a lean hog futures trader.

"It's not a factor right now, but if they start changing their minds, you know how these markets move."

In 2008, Mexico was the top export market for U.S. beef, with sales valued at nearly $1.4 billion. It was the No. 2 market for U.S. pork, valued at $691.28 million.

Chicago grain markets that trade in corn, soybean and wheat showed no reaction to the outbreak of swine flu.

The World Health Organization said tests showed the virus in 12 of the Mexican patients had the same genetic structure as a new strain of swine flu seen in the eight Americans.

Traders said the market became more nervous late in the trading session -- even though the disease is not transmitted through hogs -- as news of the deaths in Mexico and infections in the United States spread on Friday.

Traders pointed to the slump in beef exports when the first case of mad cow disease in the United State in 2003 became a market factor as a lesson for their caution on Friday.

"You do have people spooked because of the swine flu," said James Burns, a lean hog trader.

"If the public starts to get involved with the market, and if they get wind of something that may or may not be rational, pressure is going to get out. I think you saw that pressure late in the day in the June," Burns said.

But futures did trade higher much of the day as cash hog markets have been trending higher on seasonal factors. Hog supplies ease in the spring, following reduced farrowings in the fall and as farmers focus on spring planting.

Expectations were for strong cash hog markets next week, despite negative packer margins, and even firmer cash markets next month.

May lean hogs closed off 0.550 cent at 69.000 cents per lb, while actively traded June was off 0.225 at 71.650 cents. May posted a new two-month low.

[Flur]

not incredibly important, but just for the sake of having all info pertaining to this in one place:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=a9ps5DCaqxQ4&refer=news

Mexico to Get $205 Million in World Bank Aid to Fight Swine Flu
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By Joshua Goodman and Timothy R. Homan

April 26 (Bloomberg) -- The World Bank has agreed to give Mexico $205 million in loans to help fight the swine flu epidemic, Mexico’s Finance Minister Agustin Carstens said.

Of the amount, $25 million will be disbursed immediately, to allow the Mexican government to buy medicine and equipment to detect and fight the virus, which has been linked to as many as 81 deaths in Mexico.

[Dig]

This looks like a serious situation according to these people -

I'm a specialist doctor in respiratory diseases and intensive care at the Mexican National Institute of Health. There is a severe emergency over the swine flu here. More and more patients are being admitted to the intensive care unit. Despite the heroic efforts of all staff (doctors, nurses, specialists, etc) patients continue to inevitably die. The truth is that anti-viral treatments and vaccines are not expected to have any effect, even at high doses. It is a great fear among the staff. The infection risk is very high among the doctors and health staff.

There is a sense of chaos in the other hospitals and we do not know what to do. Staff are starting to leave and many are opting to retire or apply for holidays. The truth is that mortality is even higher than what is being reported by the authorities, at least in the hospital where I work it. It is killing three to four patients daily, and it has been going on for more than three weeks. It is a shame and there is great fear here. Increasingly younger patients aged 20 to 30 years are dying before our helpless eyes and there is great sadness among health professionals here.
Antonio Chavez, Mexico City

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/8018428.stm

FYI...for the past 5+ years, doctors/healthcare professionals have been conditioned to think that they are at the "front line of national defense" for the security of country/mankind because of impending emergencies whether they be weather related/pandemic related/terrorist related (the FEMA drills are a perfect place to see this).  They are being conditioned to make quick decisions based on "approved protocol" in pyramidic structures of command and control during "national emergencies".A few doctors told me "of course I would institute mandatory vaccines for all people that I was treating if deemed necessary." 

When I told him about the Baxter issue, his jaw dropped.  These people are being conditioned and we all know how much our government really loves the first responders to national disasters.

[David Rothscum]

Surprise surprise:http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/panflu/news/jan1404hybrids.html
CDC to mix avian, human flu viruses in pandemic study

Robert Roos * News Editor

Jan 14, 2004 (CIDRAP News) – One of the worst fears of infectious disease experts is that the H5N1 avian influenza virus now circulating in parts of Asia will combine with a human-adapted flu virus to create a deadly new flu virus that could spread around the world.

That could happen, scientists predict, if someone who is already infected with an ordinary flu virus contracts the avian virus at the same time. The avian virus has already caused at least 48 confirmed human illness cases in Asia, of which 35 have been fatal. The virus has shown little ability to spread from person to person, but the fear is that a hybrid could combine the killing power of the avian virus with the transmissibility of human flu viruses.

Now, rather than waiting to see if nature spawns such a hybrid, US scientists are planning to try to breed one themselves—in the name of preparedness.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) will soon launch experiments designed to combine the H5N1 virus and human flu viruses and then see how the resulting hybrids affect animals. The goal is to assess the chances that such a "reassortant" virus will emerge and how dangerous it might be.

CDC officials confirmed the plans for the research as described recently in media reports, particularly in a Canadian Press (CP) story.

Two ways to make hybrids
The plans call for trying two methods to create hybrid viruses, CDC spokesman David Daigle told CIDRAP News via e-mail. One is to infect cells in a laboratory tissue culture with H5N1 and human flu viruses at the same time and then watch to see if they mix. For the human virus, investigators will use A (H3N2), the strain that has caused most human flu cases in recent years, according to the CP report.

The other method is reverse genetics—assembling a new virus with sets of genes from the H5N1 and H3N2 viruses. Reverse genetics has already been used to create H5N1 candidate vaccines in several laboratories, according to Daigle. The National Institutes of Health (NIH) said recently it would soon launch a clinical trial of one of those vaccines.

Of the two methods, the co-infection approach was described as slower and more laborious, though closer to what happens in nature.

Any viable viruses that emerge from these processes will be seeded into animals that are considered good models for testing how flu viruses behave in humans, according to Daigle. The aim will be to observe whether the animals get sick and whether infected animals can infect others.

The World Health Organization (WHO) has been "pleading" for laboratories to do this research, because it could provide some evidence to back up the agency's warnings about the risk of a flu pandemic, according to the CP report.

Klaus Stohr, head of the WHO's global influenza program, was quoted as saying that if none of the hybrids caused disease, the agency might be inclined to dial down its level of concern. But if the experiments produce highly transmissible and pathogenic viruses, the agency will be more worried, he said.

Safety precautions
Because of the obvious risks in creating viruses with the potential to spark a pandemic, the work will be done in a biosafety level 3 (BSL-3) laboratory at the CDC in Atlanta, Daigle told CIDRAP News.

"We recognize that there is concern by some over this type of work. This concern may be heightened by reports of recent lab exposures in other lab facilities," he said. "But CDC has an incredible record in lab safety and is taking very strict precautions."

Daigle said the US Department of Agriculture requires that highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) viruses be treated as "Select Agents" and that research on them must be done in BSL-3 labs with "enhancements." These include "special provisions to protect both laboratory workers and the environment."

BSL-3 is the second highest level of laboratory biosecurity. It is used for work with pathogens that may cause serious or potentially lethal disease if inhaled, such as tuberculosis or St. Louis encephalitis, according to the CDC.

CDC experiments with HPAI viruses have to pass reviews by the agency's Institutional Biosafety Committee and Animal Care and Use Committee, Daigle said. The facilities involved are inspected by the USDA and the CDC's Office of Safety and Health, and staff members who work with Select Agents require special clearance.

It's been done before
The upcoming experiments will not break entirely new ground for the CDC, the CP story revealed. The agency already has made hybrid viruses with H5N1 samples isolated from patients in Hong Kong in 1997, when the virus first caused human disease.

The results of that research have not yet been published, and the CDC has said little about them. In the CP report, Dr. Nancy Cox, head of the CDC's influenza branch, commented only, "Some gene combinations could be produced and others could not."

Daigle added little to that. He said, "The reassortment work with the 1997 isolate was intermittently interrupted with SARS [severe acute respiratory syndrome] and then the 2004 H5N1 outbreak. We are currently concentrating our efforts on understanding the pathogenicity of the 2004 strains (non-reassortants) in mammalian models."

He said the CDC hopes to prepare a report on that research "in the near future."
I thought this hadn't been posted yet. If it has been, never mind.

[Unintelligable Name]

And David Rothscum puts the ball into the bio-terror court, Excellent.

If only they had mentioned pigs too... we'd have a KO winner.

Although...

Any viable viruses that emerge from these processes will be seeded into animals that are considered good models for testing how flu viruses behave in humans, according to Daigle. The aim will be to observe whether the animals get sick and whether infected animals can infect others

Pigs anyone?

They are very very similar to humans.

[Geolibertarian]

Pigs anyone?

They are very very similar to humans.

Dude, seriously, is it really necessary to insult pigs like that?

[Dig]

Surprise surprise:http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/panflu/news/jan1404hybrids.html
CDC to mix avian, human flu viruses in pandemic study

Robert Roos * News Editor

Jan 14, 2004 (CIDRAP News) – One of the worst fears of infectious disease experts is that the H5N1 avian influenza virus now circulating in parts of Asia will combine with a human-adapted flu virus to create a deadly new flu virus that could spread around the world.

FIRST I SAW OF IT!

YAHTZEE!

Nice grab!

PPlease make sure there is a new thread in the Biird Fllu room for any stories like this.

Thanks.

[Dok]

Nope. That corn on a stick coated in axel grease and mayonaise they tried to sell me looked tasty though.

Ohh or all that open meat with flies all over it in the markets, yum yum.

Bashing? Hrmm I'm giving light to the ease in which pig flu can spread in a malnutritioned morally downtrodden place. Luckily for you "Oh god don't bash mexico" people I'm done.

Oh and from Alex: "I'm never going back to Mexico, ever." I second that.

 

[vladimir]

Just a thought. Sorry I don't have any scientific info to add.
  
There are probably a lot of people involved in the creation of the North American Union who are not outright eugenicist humanicides (my coin? killers not just of a genos "race" but of humanity). These people would accept black operations designed to bring Mexico into line with the U.S. and Canada in regard to sanitation and health-care standards. The "swine" flu outbreak may be designed to kick-start a national sanitation upgrade by the government. Already, Calderon is talking about encouraging Mexicans to pay more attention to handwashing and the like. If this planet hadn't been a victim of numerous military bioweapons tests, intentional biogenocide (HIV), and toxic dumping by the corporations; the health standards in Mexico (which are not unlike ours 100 years ago) would be perfectly adequate.
  

Para nosotros visitantes hispanohablantes, una traducción del mismo...
(Folks, this is a simple Spanish translation of my original post)
  
Sólo un pensamiento. Lo siento que no tengo ninguna información científica que añadir.
  
Hay probablemente una gran cantidad de gente involucrada en la creación de la Unión de América del Norte que no está abiertamente humanicidas eugenicistas (mi popularización? Asesinos no sólo de un genos "raza", sino de la humanidad). Estas personas aceptarían acciones negras destinadas a traer a México en consonancia con los EE.UU. y Canadá en respecto del saneamiento y de las normas de atención a la salud. El gripe de "cerdo" se podría diseñar a fin de lanzar una actualización nacional de saneamiento por el gobierno. Ya, Calderón está hablando de alentar a los mexicanos a prestar más atención al lavar las manos y cosas así. Si este planeta no había sido víctima de numerosos ensayos de armas biológicas militares, biogenocide intencional (VIH), y dumping tóxico por las corporaciones; las normas sanitarias en Mexico (que no se difieren de las nuestras hace 100 años) sería perfectamente adecuadas.