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« Reply #760 on: April 26, 2009, 07:06:49 AM » |
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Actually, new beneficial mutations also happen frequently. It's been observed in all sorts of organisms, ranging from bacteria to human beings.
just what are these beneficial mutations?
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« Reply #761 on: April 26, 2009, 07:09:37 AM » |
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Don't be nervous, I don't believe this is the "big one". Here's a more likely scenario:
This flu breaks out now and a vaccine is magically whipped up ... people take the vaccine and it actually helps ... or at least it doesn't hurt.
This gives the compartmentalized members of the infrastructure a chance to practice and confidence that they are part of a team that is actually helping. It also gives the public confidence that it is possible to immediately produce a vaccine and that the vaccine is a good thing.
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After this confidence is instilled, the REAL OUTBREAK is launched later on ... say an August/Sept time frame. Now everyone knows the drill and obediently lines up to distribute and take the vaccine .. only THIS time the vaccine is contaminated with a deadly pathogen. The body count from the vaccine is masked by death from the flu itself so that no one suspects they are being killed by the vaccine.
My Thoughts exactly .. They want people to be pre-programmed to receive it well, openly and willingly. And then WhamO !! Death !! Chilling thought . What are we to do ?
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« Reply #762 on: April 26, 2009, 07:20:13 AM » |
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So far these are countries with reported outbreaks or symptoms:
USA Mexico Canada France
Any others I'm missing? This really has gone global.... it's a global agenda, remember?
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« Reply #763 on: April 26, 2009, 07:20:57 AM » |
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So far these are countries with reported outbreaks or symptoms:
USA Mexico Canada France
Any others I'm missing? This really has gone global.... it's a global agenda, remember?
New Zealand. NZ school group quarantined on flu fears Group from New Zealand's Rangitoto College in Auckland in quarantine over swine flu fears after Mexico trip April 26, 2009 Article from: Agence France-Presse A NEW Zealand school group has been quarantined after returning from Mexico with flu-like symptoms, health authorities said today. Three teachers and 22 senior students from Rangitoto College in Auckland, returned to New Zealand yesterday after a three-week trip to Mexico. The Auckland Regional Public Health Service said some had symptoms of an influenza-like illness and were being kept in isolation. "As a precaution in view of the international situation, preliminary tests are under way to determine the cause of the illness and to exclude or confirm swine influenza,'' the health service statement said. A new, multi-strain swine flu has flared in Mexico, and is feared to have killed more than 80 people, with the World Health Organisation (WHO) warning of "pandemic potential.'' Radio New Zealand quoted health authorities as saying 13 students and one teacher from the group were unwell, one student was in hospital and the others in home isolation. The New Zealand foreign ministry has issued a travel health notice for swine flu in Mexico, California and Texas, and said anyone who has recently travelled to these areas and developed flu-like symptoms should seek immediate medical attention. A New Zealand-based animal diseases consultant, Professor Roger Morris, said the country had stockpiles of the medication Tamiflu, which he said appeared to work against the current strain of influenza.
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« Reply #765 on: April 26, 2009, 07:27:51 AM » |
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Wow. So the virus has no been reported in 5 different countries, spread over 3 continents. I wonder how many will be affected directly before this passes by... all you have to do is watch the earliest news of this virus, and watch the news towards the end of it. See who retracts statements, and who pretends that some events or statements never happened. Those are the leads to follow, those are the rabbit holes we must jump into! Truth will prevail!
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« Reply #766 on: April 26, 2009, 07:37:34 AM » |
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you cant call those mutations, thats like saying "how come we all dont look alike".  ha, especially the last one. wow.
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« Reply #767 on: April 26, 2009, 08:00:54 AM » |
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you cant call those mutations, thats like saying "how come we all dont look alike".  ha, especially the last one. wow. Why not? Oh by the way, about the anti-biotics. Take a look at this, a strain of enterococcus that feeds on vancomycin: http://path.upmc.edu/cases/case417/dx.html Yes, it feeds on it. It isn't just resistant because it's always been, no it evolves from resistant enterecoccus, and requires vancomycin to survive. There's no way it could exist before we started using this anti-biotic. Thus, it's another beneficial mutation.
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« Reply #768 on: April 26, 2009, 08:10:10 AM » |
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Why not? Oh by the way, about the anti-biotics. Take a look at this, a strain of enterococcus that feeds on vancomycin: http://path.upmc.edu/cases/case417/dx.html Yes, it feeds on it. It isn't just resistant because it's always been, no it evolves from resistant enterecoccus, and requires vancomycin to survive. There's no way it could exist before we started using this anti-biotic. Thus, it's another beneficial mutation. Your kidding right? I mean you really have to be. Did you even read the article?? Although her initial urine culture yielded vancomycin-resistant enterococci, subsequent urine specimens failed to yield organisms with standard culture techniques, despite gram-positive cocci in chains being seen on gram stain. Ultimately it was found that these gram-positive cocci had an extremely unusual nutritional requirement for growth - vancomycin. Subsequently, vancomycin-dependent E. faecalis (strain TJ310) was isolated from 5 additional urine cultures throughout the remainder of the hospital stay. This strain was eventually cleared with imipenem therapy.
Gee lets see here in the begining it was resistant but after 123 days of massive doses of vancomycin, something starts to live off of it. Hmm... gee.. i wonder how that happened, after 123 days of massive doses of a drug. 
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http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSLQ502607EU Commission: no swine flu reported yet in Europe Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:40am EDT By Darren Ennis BRUSSELS, April 26 (Reuters) - The European Commission said on Sunday that no cases of a new type of swine flu that has killed up to 81 people in Mexico and infected others in the United States have been reported so far in Europe. "Until now we have no reported cases in Europe. We are following very closely the situation as it evolves," a spokeswoman for the EU executive, which oversees human and animal health policy in the 27-nation bloc, said. "Constant contacts with the European Centre for Disease Control, the U.S., Mexico, WHO (World Health Organisation) and member states are ongoing and we are evaluating the information we have already." The head of the WHO has called for greater worldwide surveillance for any unusual outbreaks of influenza-like illness after her organisation declared the Mexican flu outbreak as a "public health event of international concern." [ID:nLP310187] The new flu strain, a mixture of various swine, bird and human viruses, poses the biggest risk of a large-scale pandemic since avian flu surfaced in 1997, killing several hundred people. [ID:nN24420522]
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g-G1kSAM9yaH00eBrXD2S5s-3ZhgD97Q6EUG0Swine flu fears prompt quarantine plans, pork bansBy FRANK JORDANS – 18 minutes ago GENEVA (AP) — Countries planned quarantines, tightened rules on pork imports and tested airline passengers for fevers as global health officials tried Sunday to come up with uniform ways to battle a deadly strain of swine flu. Nations from New Zealand to France reported new suspected cases. World Health Organization Director-General Margaret Chan held teleconferences with staff and flu experts around the world but stopped short of recommending specific measures to stop the disease, urging governments to step up their surveillance of suspicious outbreaks. Governments including China, Russia and Taiwan began planning to put anyone with symptoms of the deadly virus under quarantine.
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« Reply #771 on: April 26, 2009, 08:17:53 AM » |
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Your kidding right? I mean you really have to be. Did you even read the article?? Gee lets see here in the begining it was resistant but after 123 days of massive doses of vancomycin, something starts to live off of it. Hmm... gee.. i wonder how that happened, after 123 days of massive doses of a drug.  Well you tell me. I'm saying it's the beneficial mutation. I'm siding with the author who claims it's because of mutations in the ddl gene, what do you think it is? And by the way, tell me why the 3 articles I cited aren't examples of real mutations.
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Well you tell me. I'm saying it's the beneficial mutation. I'm siding with the author who claims it's because of mutations in the ddl gene, what do you think it is? And by the way, tell me why the 3 articles I cited aren't examples of real mutations.
thats like saying "how come we all dont look alike". well? why dont we all look alike?
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« Reply #773 on: April 26, 2009, 08:33:59 AM » |
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well? why dont we all look alike?
What does that have to do with this? I was asking you why you don't believe these are beneficial mutations that allow these organisms to adopt to their environment.
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White House to hold special briefing on swine fluhttp://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE53P12U20090426Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:06am EDT Email | Print | Share| Reprints | Single Page[-] Text WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and other administration officials will address a special White House briefing on the swine flu outbreak on Sunday, the White House said in a statement. The White House said Napolitano would be joined at the 12:30 p.m. EDT briefing by Dr. Richard Besser, acting director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and John Brennan, assistant to the president for Homeland Security. The officials will give an update on the flu outbreak in the United States and the government's response, the statement said. (Reporting by Ross Colvin, editing by Patricia Zengerle)
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White House to hold special briefing on swine fluhttp://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE53P12U20090426Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:06am EDT Email | Print | Share| Reprints | Single Page[-] Text WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and other administration officials will address a special White House briefing on the swine flu outbreak on Sunday, the White House said in a statement. The White House said Napolitano would be joined at the 12:30 p.m. EDT briefing by Dr. Richard Besser, acting director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and John Brennan, assistant to the president for Homeland Security. The officials will give an update on the flu outbreak in the United States and the government's response, the statement said. (Reporting by Ross Colvin, editing by Patricia Zengerle) Shes going to say that right wing conservatives are behind it, with the help of returning veterans. oh and any one who supports Ron Paul.
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« Reply #777 on: April 26, 2009, 08:51:33 AM » |
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EU Commission: no swine flu reported yet in Europe 26 Apr 2009 12:40:52 GMT Source: Reuters * EU Commission says no confirmed cases of swine flu * Suspected cases in Spain, France (Adds background, France, Spain, Britain) By Darren Ennis BRUSSELS, April 26 (Reuters) - The European Commission said on Sunday that no cases of a new type of swine flu that has killed up to 81 people in Mexico and infected others in the United States have been reported so far in Europe. "Until now we have no reported cases in Europe. We are following very closely the situation as it evolves," a spokeswoman for the EU executive, which oversees human and animal health policy in the 27-nation bloc, said. "Constant contacts with the European Centre for Disease Control, the U.S., Mexico, WHO (World Health Organisation) and member states are ongoing and we are evaluating the information we have already." The head of the WHO has called for greater worldwide surveillance for any unusual outbreaks of influenza-like illness after her organisation declared the Mexican flu outbreak as a "public health event of international concern." [ID:nLP310187] The new flu strain, a mixture of various swine, bird and human viruses, poses the biggest risk of a large-scale pandemic since avian flu surfaced in 1997, killing several hundred people. [ID:nN24420522] SUSPECTED CASES The Spanish authorities said they had placed three people under continuous observation after they arrived from Mexico with symptoms of influenza and in France two people, also returning from Mexico, were being tested for the disease. Tests on a British Airways cabin crew member taken to a London hospital suffering flu-like symptoms showed he does not have swine flu. New flu strains can spread quickly because no one has natural immunity to them and a vaccine takes months to develop. Spain's Health Minister Trinidad Jimenez said it will take about 48 hours of observation to clarify whether the three people there are suffering from swine flu. He said the authorities are also contacting all people who travelled on the same flights to ask if they are suffering from symptoms of flu. A French Health Ministry spokeswoman said there were two unconfirmed cases but declined to give further details. Health Minister Roselyne Bachelot was due to hold the first of a series of daily news conferences on swine flu on Sunday afternoon. "We have identified two suspect cases, two people who were returning from Mexico and who had fever and who are currently being investigated," French public health director Didier Houssin told RTL radio. "In the coming days or weeks we will necessarily be confronted with increasing numbers of people returning from that region about whom we will have suspicions." (Reporting by Darren Ennis in Brussels, Jonathan Gleave in Madrid Francois Murphy in Paris and Avril Ormsby in London, editing by Matthew Jones) http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LQ502607.htm
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from twitter - http://twitter.com/BreakingNewsNEWS ALERT -- New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg will announce final results from the suspected swine flu cases in 10 minutes. 6 minutes ago from BNO Headquarters A third person in France is now suspected of being infected with swine flu, according to local media reports. 22 minutes ago from BNO Headquarters Spain is investigating three suspected cases of swine flu in Bilbao, Valencia and Albacete, according to El Mundo. They had visited Mexico. 25 minutes ago from BNO Headquarters
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« Reply #779 on: April 26, 2009, 09:04:43 AM » |
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World eyes deadly flu risk, Mexico City hushed 26 Apr 2009 14:55:30 GMT Source: Reuters (For full coverage of the flu outbreak, click on [nFLU]) * WHO orders worldwide surveillance amid risk of pandemic * Mexico shuts bars, churches as flu cases, deaths mount * New Zealand pupils treated in likely swine flu case * Three possible cases in Spain (Adds possible Spain cases, some leave Mexico City, details) By Catherine Bremer MEXICO CITY, April 26 (Reuters) - Governments around the world kept a wary eye on Sunday on the spread of a new type of swine flu that has killed up to 81 people in Mexico and infected around a dozen in the United States. Mexicans huddled in their homes while U.S. hospitals tracked patients with flu symptoms and other countries imposed health checks at airports as the World Health Organization warned the virus had the potential to become a pandemic. A global outbreak would deal a major blow to a world economy already suffering its worst recession in decades. [ID:nHKG369044] While all the deaths so far have been in Mexico, the flu is spreading in the United States. Eleven cases were confirmed in California, Kansas and Texas, and eight schoolchildren in New York City caught a type A influenza virus that health officials say is likely to be the swine flu. The flu outbreak has snowballed into a huge headache for Mexico, already grappling with a violent drug war and economic slowdown, and has become one of the biggest global health scares in years. Residents of Mexico City, home to some 20 million people, hoarded bottled water and canned food. Millions stayed home over the weekend and worshipers were told to follow Sunday church services on television. Convenience stores were open as normal on Sunday but some residents abandoned the capital, a rambling, chaotic city. Michelle Geronis, 22, a film student, took a bus to be with her family in the central state of Aguascalientes. "My parents heard the news and said, 'You know what? You'd better get here,'" she said. Others escaped to the Pacific resort of Acapulco after the capital's schools were closed for 10 days and bars, restaurants, cinemas and churches shut down. In Spain, doctors checked three people who had returned from visiting Mexico and reported flu-like symptoms. In New Zealand, 10 pupils from an Auckland school party that had been in Mexico were being treated for influenza symptoms in what health authorities said was a likely case of swine flu, although they added none was seriously ill. The WHO declared the flu a "public health event of international concern." WHO Director-General Dr. Margaret Chan urged greater worldwide surveillance for any unusual outbreaks of influenza-like illness. [ID:nLP310187] "(We are) monitoring minute by minute the evolution of this problem across the whole country," Mexican President Felipe Calderon said as health officials counted suspected infections from the tropical south to the arid northern border. International experts will convene on Tuesday to advise the WHO whether to declare a pandemic -- a global outbreak of serious disease. MAJOR RISK The new flu strain, a mixture of various swine, bird and human viruses, poses the biggest risk of a large-scale pandemic since avian flu surfaced in 1997, killing several hundred people. [ID:nN24420522] A 1968 "Hong Kong" flu pandemic killed about 1 million people globally. [ID:nN24440477] New flu strains can spread quickly because no one has natural immunity to them and a vaccine takes months to develop. Flu is characterized by fever, muscle aches, sore throat and dry cough. Victims of the new swine flu have also suffered vomiting and diarrhea. U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and other administration officials will address a special White House briefing on Sunday on the outbreak. Authorities across Asia, who have had to grapple with deadly viruses like H5N1 bird flu and SARS in recent years, snapped into action. At airports and other border checkpoints in Hong Kong, Malaysia, South Korea and Japan, officials screened travelers for any flu-like symptoms. In China, officials assured people that efforts in place were adequate to contain the new threat. "The measures we've been taking against bird flu are effective for this new type of disease," said Wang Jing of the China Inspection and Quarantine Science Research Institute. Mexican Health Minister Jose Angel Cordova said the swine flu had killed at least 20 and possibly as many as 81 people in Mexico, and more than 1,300 people were being tested for suspected infection. Most of the dead were aged 25 to 45, a worrying sign because a hallmark of past pandemics has been high fatalities among healthy young adults. In Brussels, the European Commission said no cases of the new flu had been reported so far in Europe but in France two people returning from Mexico who had flu-like symptoms were being tested, public health director Didier Houssin said. (Editing by Kieran Murray and Patricia Zengerle) (Additional reporting by Stephanie Nebehay in Geneva, Maggie Fox in Washington, Avril Ormsby in London and Mica Rosenberg and Michael O'Boyle in Mexico City) http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N26482522.htm
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« Reply #780 on: April 26, 2009, 09:08:36 AM » |
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ISRAEL Netanya Last Updated by niman 52 minutes ago A 26-year-old Israeli man was hospitalized Sunday in Netanya after returning from Mexico with signs of swine flu, local news service Ynet reported. The man has been isolated and doctors are trying to determine whether he has been infected with the swine flu virus, which has led to the death of dozens of people in Mexico, said the report. http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=101622.msg606335#msg606335
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« Reply #783 on: April 26, 2009, 09:19:57 AM » |
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Holy shit...I just watched on msnbc and a newspaper from mexico said, "TERROR: LA VACUNA NO ES EFICAZ!
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many places to remain isolated until 6th may in Mexico, bars, churches etc. ^^
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the website for impacto is : http://www.impactoeldiario.com/And it said, "In order to avoid panic, the governmental report on influenza does not reflect the reality of hospitals... TERROR: THE VACCINE IS NOT EFFECTIVE"
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the website for impacto is : http://www.impactoeldiario.com/And it said, "In order to avoid panic, the governmental report on influenza does not reflect the reality of hospitals... TERROR: THE VACCINE IS NOT EFFECTIVE" 
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http://www.impactoeldiario.com/indices/nota_foto.aspx as translated by http://babelfish.yahoo.com/ : There is no vaccine on this type of virus; of unofficial way it is spoken of some deaths of doctors and nurses by this germ INFLUENZA GENERATES EMERGENCIA NATIONAL The government has a series measures to prevent the multiplication with the contagion In deprived hospitals with the City of Mexico were realised Friday emergencia meetings. At least in one one said that the developing by the government is as soon as the 10 percent of the reality. ENRIQUE SANCHEZ MÁRQUEZ The epidemic of “pig fever”, against which there is no vaccine nor antiviral specific, could take in being controlled. So far the government does not have date for the return to classes of the students of the Federal District and the State of Mexico, as soon as in an historical decision suspension of activities was decreed. In harmony, the Tributary Management system postponed for the 31 of May the payment of the taxes the physical people in order to avoid the agglomerations. Also other measures get ready to prevent the multiplication with the contagion, among them, this weekend, the IMSS abre all the familiar medicine units in all the country. Of unofficial way it is spoken of some deaths of doctors and nurses by this germ. RISK OF ESCAPING TO THE HEALTH SYSTEM In closed commentaries it is spoken of the great fear of which this evil is scattered because to become epidemic it would be exceeding the System of Public Health of the country. According to ex- civil servants of the national system of health, consulted by IMPACT, the viral vaccine nonexistence and to fight the “pig fever” must to that it is a novel mutation of influenza. There are them to fight the disease brought about by the virus To, B and C (Amantadine, Rimantandina, Oseltamivir and Zanamivir), but in little can help the supplying of these documents then not yet have been developed viral nor bovine against this new variety of influenza. CONFIDENCE OF THE GOVERNMENT The government trusts surrounding the epidemic before Monday because if the problem is not controlled the public and deprived system of health will not be able to give effective answer. In deprived hospitals of the City of Mexico emergencia meetings were realised Friday. At least in one one said that the developing by the government is as soon as the 10 percent of the reality. The concealment of the true dimension of the problem would have like aim not to bring about panic in the population. Perhaps with the same argument it was decided not to spread the documentary one elaborated by the Secretariat of Health, from 2006, as a result of which the World-wide Organization of the Health announced the possibility of a pandemic that ends about 100 million people in the world. 23 Influenza
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Murtiyasa added that thermal scanners were previously installed during the outbreak of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) in 2005. "But since the machines were broken down, we had to bring them back to Jakarta to get the fixed before they were set up again today *Monday*," he said. "Meanwhile, it is the first time for body cleaners to be set up here. The Korean-made machines were sent by the Health Ministry." Murtiyasa added that the agency also owns an X-ray machine. A set of thermal scanners and body cleaners have been placed at the east and west gates of the international terminal, while the X-ray machine is located in the quarantine room. A camera-based scanner screens all passengers arriving from international destinations before they are permitted to exit the terminal. "If a passenger has a body temperature above 155 degrees Fahrenheit or 38.5 degrees Celsius, he or she will be directed to the body clean disinfectant health quarantine, or body cleaner, to get sprayed with a 70 percent alcohol solution," agency employee Ananto Prasetyo Hadi said, adding that body temperature is identified by red coloring on the scanner monitor. Murtiyasa further added that after the spraying, a person who is believed to be infected with a disease will be transferred to the quarantine office to be examined. "If the person believed to have a possible migration disease is just having a usual fever, we will give them medicine to reduce their body temperature," he said. "But if the examination shows a specific symptom of any migration disease, we will directly send them to Sanglah General Hospital." Besides Bali, airports in Medan, North Sumatra; Jakarta, Surabaya, East Java; Semarang, Central Java; Makassar, South Sulawesi; as well as Batam will also set up such health control facilities. Australian Marten Hubbeling, who runs a travel agency for meeting, incentive, convention and event (MICE) gatherings in Bali, said that he supports the action taken by the Indonesian government on health control. "It shows that Indonesia, particularly Bali, has made an effort to control the spread of the diseases; speaking about the current issues on SARS and rabies." Nevertheless, Hubbeling is concerned that the health machines will add more queuing time during arrival. "As well all know that passengers take some time to get done with visas, immigration and luggage," he said. "I'm afraid if the airport officials cannot handle it well, passengers will lose more time undergoing such examinations." Commenting on the installment, spokesman of state-owned airport operator PT Angkasa Pura I M. Dimyati said that the firm gave its full support to any service related to the comfort of passengers. "The installment shows that we are ready to help block the spread of certain diseases," he said. Meanwhile, Sanglah Hospital's officer in charge of medical services and treatment, Ken Wirasandhi, said that he had not received an official announcement from the health ministry about the possible threat of an outbreak of Singaporean flu. "As far as we know, the Singaporean flu is another name for HFMD, and it's not dangerous like avian flu or rabies. Therefore, for now, we don't need any special set up to counter its *HFMD* spread," he added. Comments (1) | Post comment Jon (not verified) — Wed, 04/22/2009 - 11:32am Thank you for reporting about this new development. I feel the need to point out a few discrepancies in the report, however. First of all, the byline comes from "Badung", and the airport, is reported as the "Ngurah Rai International Airport in Badung". This article was picked up and reported in international circles as being " Ngurah Rai International Airport in Bandung, Indonesia". Both the original, and the "reprint" are misleading and confusing. The airport in question is located in Bali, Indonesia. If the original Jakarta Post article had been accurate, I believe the international reprints could have been accurate as well. Secondly, the Jakarta Post article states "If a passenger has a body temperature above 155 degrees Fahrenheit or 38.5 degrees Celsius, he or she will be directed to the body clean disinfectant health quarantine, or body cleaner, to get sprayed with a 70 percent alcohol solution," While a body temperature of 38.5 degrees Celcius is quite possible, any person with a body temperature of "155 degrees Farenheit" would have been dead well before reaching that temperature. Thank you for your kind attention!
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« Reply #793 on: April 26, 2009, 09:45:29 AM » |
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MSNBC headline:
BREAKING: NYC Mayor Bloomberg says CDC has confirmed swine flu in Queens students.
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« Reply #794 on: April 26, 2009, 09:52:37 AM » |
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« Reply #795 on: April 26, 2009, 10:00:28 AM » |
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Americans told to wear masks as swine flu spreads round globe  ( Gregory Bull/AP) Panic spread across Mexico City, where schools were closed and church services cancelled in an attempt to contain the virus Chris Ayres in Los Angeles, Graham Keeley in Madrid, Leo Lewis in Tokyo and Tom Baldwin in Washington Doctors in America are advising worried patients to buy painters’ masks as a precaution against the global outbreak of swine flu that appears to have spread from Mexico to the United States, New Zealand and possibly Europe. With the worldwide death toll standing at about 81 and with about 1,300 people infected, authorities across the globe are torn between the desire to slow down a potential flu pandemic and the need to avoid bringing major cities on every continent to an economic standstill. As of today, the US was still allowing people to cross the border from Mexico – where it is thought the swine flu emerged last week – although customs officials at the San Ysidro and Otay Mesa border crossings were given protective masks. It is thought that eight people in US border towns have gone down with swine flu, and tonight Mayor Michael Bloomberg said that a further eight cases have been confirmed among students in New York. There have been no deaths north of the Mexican border, however, and as of today the anti-viral drugs Tamiflu and Relenza were readily available from pharmacies in major cities. Several of those affected in the US have made full recoveries. A spokesman for the White House said yesterday that President Obama’s health had not been endangered by his trip to Mexico City last week, in spite of reports in the Mexican press that Felipe Solis, an archaeologist who met the US leader, died soon after from “flu-like symptoms”. Earlier today the European Commission said that there were no known cases in Europe, but within hours three suspected cases were being investigated in Spain, which has a large Mexican émigré population, in the cities of Bilbao, Valencia and Albacete. All three sufferers returned recently from Mexico. Spanish authorities are contacting passengers who were on the same flights. Two suspected cases have been also been reported in southern France. A suspected British case, a member of a British Airways cabin crew who started to experience flu-like symptoms on a flight from Mexico to Heathrow, was given the all-clear this morning. However, ten teenagers from New Zealand who returned home from Mexico yesterday are thought to be suffering from the disease. None is seriously ill, the country's Health Minister said. One of the greatest concerns over the new strain of flu is that it is seems to target young, healthy adults – the same group affected by the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918, which killed up to 100 million people. Medical experts will meet on Tuesday to advise the World Health Organisation (WHO) on whether to raise the current pandemic alert level. “We need more epidemiological evidence from Mexico before the experts would be in a position to advise on a pandemic change,” Gregory Hartl, a WHO spokesman, said. “An advisory body will recommend whether or not the director-general should up the phase. They are meeting again on Tuesday.” However, critics say it is too late to contain the virus. “Anything that would be about containing it now would purely be a political move,” Michael Osterholm, of the University of Minnesota, said. In Mexico City, the economic cost of the flu outbreak was obvious today as many residents stayed at home while others wore face masks. At least 500 concerts, sports matches, and church services were cancelled at the weekend to stop people spreading the virus. Hundreds of schools have closed. As panic spread, restaurants and markets emptied, emergency rooms filled with worried people with flu symptoms, and President Calderon announced emergency powers to isolate those infected. Soldiers and health workers patrolled airports and bus stations, searching for anyone who appeared to have the symptoms. Not everyone was taking the panic seriously, however. Roland Guerrero, sitting at a city centre café where no one was covering their face, said: “They have blown this out of proportion. They say there have been 20 deaths here. But what is that in a city of 20 million? Nobody will be talking about this by Tuesday.” President Calderon was facing mounting criticism that his Government had failed to act fast enough, losing crucial days or weeks to detect the new flu strain, which is a combination of pig, bird and human viruses to which humans have no natural immunity. Mexican health authorities noted a sharp rise in flu-like cases in March, but they thought it was winter flu. Jose Cordova, the Health Secretary, admitted that Mexican laboratories lacked sufficient profiling data to detect this previously unknown strain. The first death was in Oaxaca state on April 13, but the first mucous samples were not sent for analysis until five days later. Health teams noticed the flu was killing people aged 20 to 40, unlike normal flu, whose victims are usually infants and the elderly. On the other side of the globa, Asian governments traumatised by “ghost town” memories of the Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) epidemic, and a six-year battle to contain the deadly H5N1 bird flu virus, went into crisis mode today, strengthening quarantine procedures to protect the region from another killer pandemic. With images of deserted streets in Mexico running on the evening news, many Asians were reminded of the miseries of SARS –the paranoid months of “social distancing” and of wearing masks in public. For Hong Kong, where SARS claimed nearly 300 lives in 2003, the warning from the World Health Organisation (WHO) this weekend that this was a health event “of international concern” was especially chilling: the city was the focal point of a 1968 flu pandemic that claimed 1 million lives around the world. Because of the constant threat of bird flu mutating into a human pandemic, many Asian countries use thermo-graphic technology to scan passengers for fever symptoms as they arrive from areas of a suspected outbreak. Those checks are now being run on passengers arriving from Mexico, California and Texas.
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« Reply #796 on: April 26, 2009, 10:01:25 AM » |
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From http://twitter.com/mpoppel : "Reporter asks if it could be bio-terrorism because it began when Obama visited Mexico" 2 minutes ago from TweetDeck "No evidence that we are dealing with bio-terrorism actions" 2 minutes ago from TweetDeck
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« Reply #797 on: April 26, 2009, 10:01:31 AM » |
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seems to be alot of international school trips to mexico going on at the same time ...wonder if thats a regular occurance
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« Reply #798 on: April 26, 2009, 10:14:39 AM » |
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Just a reminder .... president Obama will hold a swine flu briefing in about 15 minutes (12:30 pm EST). It will be interesting to see what he is scripted to say in this unfolding preliminary op prepatory to the "big one" likely to be staged later this year. http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jt69yvA0CKgwA4r0MMPj967sBdOw
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