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« Reply #120 on: April 24, 2009, 04:39:36 PM »

Me too buddy.  I'm just not ready for this to happen right now.  I need 6 more months.  :-/

Hopefully it isn't anything but a resistant strain of a super flu is not something I want to deal with unprepared.  My family...

Yeah, I had an odd feeling seeing that news today too. Odd how a quiet, sunny day seems to lead to more dismay. I just hope my immune system - free of over-use of antibiotics and flu-vaccine free can fight it off.

Every day we go - keeps reminding me more of Pink Floyd's Animals Album..  Undecided
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« Reply #121 on: April 24, 2009, 04:39:56 PM »

Does anyone have any information on where exactly around San Antonio these people have been reported?
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« Reply #122 on: April 24, 2009, 04:40:58 PM »

Yeah, I had an odd feeling seeing that news today too. Odd how a quiet, sunny day seems to lead to more dismay. I just hope my immune system - free of over-use of antibiotics and flu-vaccine free can fight it off.

Every day we go - keeps reminding me more of Pink Floyd's Animals Album..  Undecided

Man, I've read "The Stand" by Stephen King.  If this is ANYTHING like that, your immune system wont mean a thing. 
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« Reply #123 on: April 24, 2009, 04:42:54 PM »

I heard on an alternative health radio program this afternoon that so far everyone who contracted this was vaccinated with this year's influenza vaccine.

I don't have a link to confirm this though.... anyone else?
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« Reply #124 on: April 24, 2009, 04:43:10 PM »

Man, I've read "The Stand" by Stephen King.  If this is ANYTHING like that, your immune system wont mean a thing. 

Yes, I agree.. One can only pray & hope.
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« Reply #125 on: April 24, 2009, 04:43:42 PM »

I'll bet my bottom dollar that they'll try to get everyone vaccinated and overuse the antivirals...this would both encourage a new mutation AND increase resistance to the antivirals.
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« Reply #126 on: April 24, 2009, 04:44:06 PM »

So whats going on, fat chicks getting the flu..............??   Grin
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« Reply #127 on: April 24, 2009, 04:44:58 PM »

Man if this "is it," it is going to really suck. 

Just 6 more months... please just 6 more months...
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« Reply #128 on: April 24, 2009, 04:45:45 PM »

excellent blog post from healthfreedomusa!   She's been on top of this for a long time
http://www.healthfreedomusa.com/?p=2515
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« Reply #129 on: April 24, 2009, 04:46:04 PM »

Does anyone have any information on where exactly around San Antonio these people have been reported?

Swine Flu Infects 2 San Antonio Teens

Two 16-year-old boys attending the same school in Schertz, Texas have contracted swine flu, the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said Thursday.

The infections bring to seven the number of people who have been infected with the flu that normally passed from pigs to humans. However, Dr. Anne Schuchat, director of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said the source of the swine flu strain in the two students from Steele High School was unknown because they never had contact with pigs.

The other people who contracted the flu, including five in California, also never touched any pig and were never in contact with each other, according to CDC. All of them recovered from the disease after taking antiviral medications.

The virus may be something completely new, or it may have been around for a while but was only detected now because of improved lab testing and disease surveillance, CDC officials said, according to Ksat.com.

Symptoms of swine flu and regular flu are the same: fever, cough and sore throat. But the seven who contracted the disease also vomited and had diarrhea

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« Reply #130 on: April 24, 2009, 04:47:18 PM »

OMG...

It's in my town...

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« Reply #131 on: April 24, 2009, 04:51:21 PM »


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I heard on an alternative health radio program this afternoon that so far everyone who contracted this was vaccinated with this year's influenza vaccine.

While that wouldn't surprise me in the least... the idiot doctor who was just on CBS News was saying that this years flu vaccine may have a protective effect on this flu and of course it isn't too late to get that flu shot.  Oh brother....


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« Reply #132 on: April 24, 2009, 04:51:32 PM »



Am I reading the dates wrong?  Some of these are old (3.25.09, 3.15.09, 4.10.09 etc)
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« Reply #133 on: April 24, 2009, 04:51:43 PM »

So whats going on, fat chicks getting the flu..............??   Grin

sheeple wont care until Susan Boyle gets it

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« Reply #134 on: April 24, 2009, 04:53:56 PM »


wow, you better leave, oh wait, stay right there. kidding.

There is no local news on this??
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« Reply #135 on: April 24, 2009, 04:54:06 PM »

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OMG!  The news just broke that Amy Winehouse was just admitted to the hospital for possible swine flu symptoms.  

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« Reply #136 on: April 24, 2009, 04:55:26 PM »


Am I reading the dates wrong?  Some of these are old (3.25.09, 3.15.09, 4.10.09 etc)

Nope this is cases that they went back and checked samples and symptoms for and reached the conclusion its what it is, remember it has a incubation period.
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« Reply #137 on: April 24, 2009, 04:57:18 PM »

OMG!  The news just broke that Amy Winehouse was just admitted to the hospital for possible swine flu symptoms.  

just kidding.


not even a super virus could live in that toxic environment  whiskey and heroin beats tamiflu every time
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« Reply #138 on: April 24, 2009, 04:57:22 PM »

Nope this is cases that they went back and checked samples and symptoms for and reached the conclusion its what it is, remember it has a incubation period.

Gotcha!  That makes sense now.
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« Reply #139 on: April 24, 2009, 04:57:52 PM »

The CDC also said in their media briefing that it has an incubation period of about 9 days.
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« Reply #140 on: April 24, 2009, 04:58:31 PM »

For a long time I've been wanting to print out a packet of information (evidence) to share with family/friends in the event of a pandemic.  I think I'll get busy on that now.
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« Reply #141 on: April 24, 2009, 04:59:59 PM »

I know of a little boy right now in the hospital...has been running a fever for 4-5 days (unresponsive to meds) and has a sore throat but docs can't figure out what is wrong with him.   I'm starting to worry about the little guy now. 
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« Reply #142 on: April 24, 2009, 05:08:27 PM »

http://scienceblogs.com/effectmeasure/2009/04/latest_on_swine_flu_from_cdc.php
"Unrelated to any swine influenza virus that has ever been identified in North America."

Nothing to see here folks, move along...
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« Reply #143 on: April 24, 2009, 05:08:51 PM »

Mexico City suspends large public events due flu
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MEXICO CITY, April 24 (Reuters) - The Mexico City government has suspended all large public events due to an outbreak of a new flu virus, the capital's health secretary said on Friday.

City Health Secretary Armando Ahued told a news conference the move was aimed at cutting down on crowded gatherings where the flu, which has killed 20 people and infected around 1,000 nationwide, could spread further. (Reporting by Alistair Bell)

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SANFORD -- Health workers in Seminole County are trying to figure out what caused several people at a retirement center to get sick Friday.
 
Five elderly residents of the Renaissance Retirement Center on West Airport Boulevard were taken to the hospital after complaining of stomach pain.

The five were all taken to different hospitals.

Firefighters think all may have contracted the same stomach bug, but they're being checked out to make sure it's nothing more.
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« Reply #144 on: April 24, 2009, 05:10:43 PM »

"We haven't seen this strain before, which means nobody has immunity to it," nor will flu vaccines be effective, said Dr. Marty Fenstersheib, Santa Clara County's public health officer.

Bay Area health officials brace for deadly swine flu that has killed at least 20 in Mexico
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Concerned that the Bay Area's global connections put the region at higher risk of a new strain of deadly swine flu, local public health officials on Friday advised people with flu-like symptoms to stay home and call a doctor, and asked hospitals and physicians to increase their surveillance for the new virus.

The flu has killed at least 20 people, and sickened hundreds more, in Mexico, but public health officials know of no cases in Northern California. Still, Santa Clara and San Mateo County activated their emergency operations centers Friday afternoon and began contacting medical providers.

"We haven't seen this strain before, which means nobody has immunity to it," nor will flu vaccines be effective, said Dr. Marty Fenstersheib, Santa Clara County's public health officer.

Working on concert with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the World Health Organization, local health officials scrambled Friday to respond to a new strain of swine flu that may have mutated so it could be transmitted between humans.

Swine flu generally only spreads to humans through direct contact with pigs.

Mexico on Friday put the confirmed toll at 20 dead, but 40 other fatalities were being probed, and at least 943 nationwide were sick from the suspected flu, the national health department said.

Scientists said the virus combines genetic material from pigs, birds and humans in a way researchers have not seen before.

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W.H.O. has reported about 800 cases of flu-like symptoms in Mexico in recent weeks, most of them among healthy young adults, with 57 deaths in Mexico City and three in the central part of the country. Officials in Mexico City closed schools, libraries and some theaters Friday, and urged people with flu-like symptoms to stay home from work, to avoid large gatherings and to refrain from shaking hands and kissing other people on the cheek.

"It's a human-to-human spread, and if it is the same virus in Mexico and it's causing deaths, it's also a virus that has some degree of mortality," Fenstershieb said. "That's concerning us."

American health officials meanwhile are investigating eight cases in Southern California and Texas, which had the same genetic fingerprints as fatal flu cases in Mexico. All the known U.S. patients recovered.

Fenstershieb said Silicon Valley and the Bay Area could be at greater risk than other parts of the country because of the region's cosmopolitan population and its highly developed network of global travel. About 160,000 residents of Santa Clara County, or 9 percent of the population in 2007, was born in Mexico, according to Census data.

Besides respiratory symptoms typical, this strain of the flu may also produce gastrointestinal symptoms, including nausea and diarrhea, Fenstersheib said. The department will post more information about the situation later today at www.sccphd.org

"We have a lot of people traveling internationally," he said. "There are family members traveling back and forth . . . We definitely have more potential risk because of the connections with Mexico, so it's important for us to really be on top of this."
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« Reply #145 on: April 24, 2009, 05:12:37 PM »

"We haven't seen this strain before, which means nobody has immunity to it," nor will flu vaccines be effective, said Dr. Marty Fenstersheib, Santa Clara County's public health officer.
Doesn't matter, we still have to vaccinate random people living in Mexico city.
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« Reply #146 on: April 24, 2009, 05:14:33 PM »

Doesn't matter, we still have to vaccinate random people living in Mexico city.

I think the racist guy would agree with you.  Roll Eyes Cool
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« Reply #147 on: April 24, 2009, 05:15:46 PM »

Doesn't matter, we still have to vaccinate random people living in Mexico city.

Not just there...

And the people will still obey en masse, even though it makes no sense whatsoever.
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« Reply #148 on: April 24, 2009, 05:16:53 PM »

I think the racist guy would agree with you.  Roll Eyes Cool

Wasn't that sarcasm?
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« Reply #149 on: April 24, 2009, 05:18:43 PM »

Yeah, I was just trying to be funny (never mind)--sigh.

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« Reply #150 on: April 24, 2009, 05:24:21 PM »

So if this is it, how do you prepare yourself for it? Obviously diet is important to make sure your body have all the vitamins and minerals that it needs but what more could possible help to avoid dying from this? Even if this is not going to go global, they still seem to want to kill people with influenza so it would be nice to be prepared.
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« Reply #151 on: April 24, 2009, 05:26:47 PM »

So if this is it, how do you prepare yourself for it? Obviously diet is important to make sure your body have all the vitamins and minerals that it needs but what more could possible help to avoid dying from this? Even if this is not going to go global, they still seem to want to kill people with influenza so it would be nice to be prepared.

This kind doesn't seem to be as deadly as the traditional H5N1 avian flu, we're mainly worried about it's virulence and the odd way that it's been mutated to have 4 different strains in it.
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« Reply #152 on: April 24, 2009, 05:27:19 PM »

Yeah, I was just trying to be funny (never mind)--sigh.



I thought I got the joke at first but if you re-read his comment, it could actually go either way!  Grin
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« Reply #153 on: April 24, 2009, 05:42:14 PM »

I think the racist guy would agree with you.  Roll Eyes Cool
Oh trust me, when this stuff spreads as far as it probably will when they start giving random vaccinations, only inbred European Royalty, nihilist biologists, American robber barons and a bunch of Earth worshippers will agree.
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« Reply #154 on: April 24, 2009, 05:58:43 PM »

Anne get your gun will save us....  She is not "in place" right now for no reason. (She gives me a creepy feeling seeing her on Lou Dobbs today)

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“Public service is a privilege but for me it has also been a joy.”

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As the Interim Deputy Director for Science and Public Health Program, Schuchat provides leadership and guidance on high impact/high vulnerability science and program issues affecting CDC. Her focus is on ensuring that strong science and programmatic approaches are effectively integrated into planning across the agency. Schuchat coordinates activities of the Office of the Chief Science Officer, the Office of Public Health Practice, and CDC′s National Centers.

Before this assignment, Schuchat was the director of CDC′s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases (NCIRD). She has spent more than 20 years at CDC working in immunization, respiratory, and other infectious diseases. Prior to her current appointment, she served as the director of CDC′s National Immunization Program (NIP); acting director of the National Center for Infectious Diseases (NCID); chief of the Respiratory Diseases Branch at NCID; and as the initial medical director of the Active Bacterial Core surveillance (ABCs)/Emerging Infections Program Network, a multi-state collaboration between CDC, state health departments and academic institutions that tracks invasive bacterial infections, informs vaccine and prevention policy, and monitors program impact. Dr. Schuchat was named an Assistant Surgeon General of the United States Public Health Service in 2006.

Globally, she has worked in West Africa on meningitis vaccine studies, in South Africa on surveillance and prevention projects, and in China on SARS emergency response, where she headed the Beijing City epidemiology team for the World Health Organization′s (WHO) China Office. She continues to serve as a visiting professor for the Beijing Centers for Disease Prevention and Control.

Dr. Schuchat has made critically important contributions to the prevention of infectious diseases in children , including her role in perinatal group B streptococcal disease prevention where she spearheaded the development of CDC′s guidelines that have led to an 80 percent reduction in newborn infections and a 75 percent narrowing of racial disparities among sufferers of this infectious disease. She also has been instrumental in pre- and post-licensure evaluations of conjugate vaccines for bacterial meningitis and pneumonia and in accelerating availability of these new vaccines in resource-poor countries through WHO and the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization.

Anne Schuchat graduated with highest honors from Swarthmore College and with honors from Dartmouth Medical School. She served as resident and chief resident in internal medicine at New York University′s Manhattan VA Hospital before beginning her public health career at CDC as an Epidemic Intelligence Service (EIS) officer in NCID.

She has authored or co-authored more than 150 scientific articles, book chapters, and reviews. Her contributions have been recognized by receipt of the USPHS Meritorious Service Medal, the American Public Health Associatio′′s Maternal and Child Health Young Investigator Award, the USPHS Physician Research Officer of the Year, and an Honorary Doctorate in Science from Swarthmore College.

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« Reply #155 on: April 24, 2009, 06:17:01 PM »

Lou Dobbs gave the story the importance it deserved....good we got him on our side.
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« Reply #156 on: April 24, 2009, 06:18:15 PM »

http://www.pandemicflu.gov/
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http://www.cdc.gov/media/transcripts/2009/t090423.htm

We have two people available to speak this afternoon.  With me is Dr. Anne Schuchat.  She is Director of CDCs National Center for Influenza and Respiratory Diseases.  Her last name is spelled S-C-H-U-C-H-A-T.  And joining us also is Dr. Nancy Cox.  Dr. Cox is Director of CDCs Influenza Division.
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ANNE SCHUCHAT, MD, Interim Deputy Director for Science:  Oh great, I am just going to correct my title for those of you who are taking notes.  I am the Director for the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases.  Sometimes it feels like the National Center for Influenza but it's actually Immunization.
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Preliminary testing of viruses from the first two patients shows that they are very similar.  Additional testing is ongoing with the newer isolettes.  We know so far that the viruses contain genetic pieces from four different virus sources.  This is unusual.  The first is our North American swine influenza viruses.  North American avian influenza viruses, human influenza viruses and swine influenza viruses found in Asia and Europe.  

That particular genetic combination of swine influenza virus segments has not been recognized before in the U.S. or elsewhere.  Of course, we are doing more testing now and looking more aggressively for unusual influenza strains.  So we haven't seen this strain before but we haven't been looking as intensively as we are these days.

The viruses are resistant to amantadine and rimantadine anti-viral drugs but they are sensitive or susceptible to oseltamivir and zanamivir, the newer anti-viral drugs for flu.  And at this time we don’t know exactly how people got the virus.  None of the patients have had direct contact with pigs.  

You can get swine influenza without direct contact but it's a bit more unusual.  And we believe at this point that human-to-human spread is occurring.  That's unusual.  We don’t know yet how widely it's spreading and we certainly don’t know the extent of the problem.  We're taking active steps to learn more and to make sure that we're on top of the situation.  We're working closely with health officials in California and in Texas and we're working with the U.S. Department of Agriculture exploring illness in pigs and other animals.
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http://www.cdc.gov/flu/swine/recommendations.htm


RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PUBLIC HEALTH PERSONNEL
For interviews of healthy individuals (i.e. without a current respiratory illness), including close contacts of cases of confirmed swine influenza virus infection, no personal protective equipment or antiviral chemoprophylaxis is needed. See section on antiviral chemoprophylaxis for further guidance.

For interviews of an ill, suspected or confirmed SIV case, the following is recommended:

Keep a distance of at least 6 feet from the ill person; or
Personal protective equipment: fit-tested N95 respirator [if unavailable, wear a medical (surgical mask)].
For collecting respiratory specimens from an ill confirmed or suspected SIV case, the following is recommended:

Personal protective equipment: fit-tested disposable N95 respirator [if unavailable, wear a medical (surgical mask)], disposable gloves, gown, and goggles.
When completed, place all PPE in a biohazard bag for appropriate disposal.
Wash hands thoroughly with soap and water or alcohol-based hand gel.
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Recommended Infection Control for a non-hospitalized patient (ER, clinic or home visit):

Separation from others in single room if available until asymptomatic. If the ill person needs to move to another part of the house, they should wear a mask. The ill person should be encouraged to wash hands frequently and follow respiratory hygiene practices. Cups and other utensils used by the ill person should be thoroughly washed with soap and water before use by other persons.

Recommended Infection Control for a hospitalized patient:

Standard, Droplet and Contact precautions for 7 days after illness onset or until symptoms have resolved.
In addition, personnel should wear N95 respirators when entering the patient room.
Use an airborne infection isolation room (AIIR) with negative pressure air handling, if available; otherwise use a single patient room with the door kept closed.
For suctioning, bronchoscopy, or intubation, use a procedure room with negative pressure air handling.
Recommended PPE for personnel providing clinical care to ill individuals:

Disposable gown, gloves, goggles, N95 respirator.

Antiviral Treatment
Antiviral treatment for confirmed or suspected ill case of swine influenza virus infection may include either oseltamivir or zanamavir, with no preference given at this time. Recommendations for use of antivirals may change as data on antiviral susceptibilities become available.
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« Reply #157 on: April 24, 2009, 06:33:36 PM »

In my reaserch I heard that 75% of people who contracted the Spanish Flu of 1918 were servicemen who received the vaccine, here is a article which may have some good info. in it. 





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Recreating the 1918-19 “Spanish” Flu epidemic hysteria

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As the bird flu hype intensifies, suddenly people who had never heard of it before remember the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918 as if it just happened. It’s interesting how the modern remembrance of the 1918 outbreak, being leaked into our minds from the CDC through the mainstream media, is dramatically exaggerated from doctored historical accounts.

For instance, an Associated Press story from 1997 cited a study done by the Armed Forces Institute under the leadership of Dr. Jeffery K. Taubenberger. Taubenberger, et al., analyzed specimens from some of the 43,000 servicemen that died as a result of the “Spanish” flu and had been preserved in formaldehyde and wax for future studies. It was theorized that “the virus … is a mutation that evolved in American pigs and was spread around the globe by U.S. troops mobilized for World War I.”

Regarding flu epidemiology, pigs may have wings

In February, 2004, the BBC reported that British scientists determined that the strain of flu virus responsible for the 1918-19 “Spanish” flu pandemic was an avian virus that had mutated. This information was determined by exhuming bodies from villages within 700 miles of the north pole from people who had died during the 1918-19 flu pandemic.

Is the reason for this confusion due to the fact that the existence of viruses was known but not isolated and categorized until after 1933, the year the electron microscope was invented? Some articles from the late 90s even theorize that the virus originated in birds that infected pigs that then infected humans. Hmmm…

1918 death toll still rising

Another problem is the evolving numbers of people who were infected with the “Spanish” flu and the numbers of people who actually died. An “AP Statistics Lab” claims that 25 million people died worldwide from the 1918 flu pandemic with half a million dying in the U.S. The CDC claimed in 1999 (Preparing for the Next Influenza Pandemic) that 20 million people died worldwide from the 1918 flu pandemic but now claims, in 2005, that the death toll was 50 million worldwide. Another article justifies these discrepancies by saying that anywhere from 20 million to 100 million people died worldwide during the 1918-19 flu pandemic. Aside from this “official” confusion, it is clear that the World Health Organization (WHO) and the Bush administration are using recreated 1918 flu pandemic history to sound the alarm justifying the $4 billion tagged onto a defense spending bill passed by the Senate September 24, 2005.

Senator Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), with the backing of Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nevada), wants the government to spend nearly $3.1 billion to stockpile enough doses of an anti-viral pharma drugs (not vitamin C or oregano oil) for half the U.S. population. If half the current U.S. population (not counting the illegal immigrants) were to “benefit” from this boondoggle, it amounts to $21 for each anti-viral dose administered at taxpayer expense.

Learning from the past

Historians puzzle over the virulence of the “Spanish” flu versus deadly medical treatments used nearly 90 years ago. According to medical researcher Jim West, chloroform was used as a preservative in several orthodox cough syrups in 1918 and would convert to highly poisonous phosgene when oxidized, causing liver failure and various cancers.

Patrick J. Carroll wrote a piece in the August 5, 2003 edition of The Irish Examiner recounting relatively unknown vaccine history. He claimed that a report from then U.S. Secretary of War Henry L Stimson verified 63 deaths and 28,585 cases of hepatitis as a direct result of the WWI yellow fever vaccination program of only six months duration. Yellow Fever vaccination was only one of the 14 to 25 shots given to army recruits. Quoting from the article that can be accessed at http://www.vaclib.org/news/vaccinenotflu.htm

“Army records also reveal that after vaccination became compulsory in the U.S. Army in 1911, not only did typhoid increase rapidly but all other vaccinal diseases increased at an alarming rate. After America entered the war in 1917, the death rate from typhoid vaccination rose to the highest point in the history of the U.S. Army. The deaths occurred after the shots were given in sanitary American hospitals and well-supervised army camps in France, where sanitation had been practiced for years.

“The report of the Surgeon-General of the U.S. Army shows that during 1917 there were admitted into the army hospitals 19,608 men suffering from anti-typhoid inoculation and vaccinia. This takes no account of those whose vaccine diseases were attributed to other causes.

“The army doctors knew all these cases of disease and death were due to vaccination and were honest enough to admit it in their medical reports. When army doctors tried to suppress the symptoms of typhoid with a stronger vaccine, it caused a worse form of typhoid: Paratyphoid. But when they concocted an even stronger vaccine to suppress that one, they created an even worse disease: Spanish flu.”

As several other sources confirm, it was this newly-concocted typhoid vaccine, as well as several other vaccines, that were mass disseminated to allegedly protect a “panic-stricken” world from the disease-infected soldiers returning from WWI battlefields that triggered the 1918 flu pandemic.

Following is an excerpt from Eleanor McBean’s eyewitness account as memorialized in Chapter Two of her book, “Vaccination Condemned”: All the doctors and people who were living at the time of the 1918 Spanish Influenza epidemic say it was the most terrible disease the world has ever had. Strong men, hale and hearty one day would be dead the next.

The disease had the characteristics of the black death added to typhoid, diphtheria, pneumonia, smallpox, paralysis and all the diseases the people had been vaccinated with immediately following World War I. Practically the entire population had been injected “seeded” with a dozen or more diseases - or toxic serums. When all those doctor-made diseases started breaking out all at once it was tragic. That pandemic dragged on for two years, kept alive with the addition of more poison drugs administered by the doctors who tried to suppress the symptoms. As far as I could find out, the flu hit only the vaccinated. Those who had refused the shots escaped the flu. My family had refused all the vaccinations so we remained well all the time. We knew from the health teachings of Graham, Trail, Tilden and others, that people cannot contaminate the body with poisons without causing disease.

When the flu was at its peak, all the stores were closed as well as the schools, businesses—even the hospital, as the doctors and nurses had been vaccinated too and were down with the flu. No one was on the streets. It was like a ghost town. We [who didn’t take any vaccines] seemed to be the only family which didn’t get the flu; so my parents went from house to house doing what they could to look after the sick, as it was impossible to get a doctor then. If it were possible for germs, bacteria, virus, or bacilli to cause disease, they had plenty of opportunity to attack my parents when they were spending many hours a day in the sick rooms. But they didn’t get the flu and they didn’t bring any germs home to attack us children and cause anything. None of our family had the flu—not even a sniffle—and it was in the winter with deep snow on the ground. It has been said that the 1918 flu epidemic killed 20,000,000 people throughout the world. But, actually, the doctors killed them with their crude and deadly treatments and drugs. This is a harsh accusation but it is nevertheless true, judging by the success of the drugless doctors in comparison with that of the medical doctors.

While the medical men and medical hospitals were losing 33% of their flu cases, the non-medical hospitals such as BATTLE CREEK, KELLOGG and MACFADDEN’S HEALTH-RESTORIUM were getting almost 100% healings with their water cure, baths, enemas, etc., fasting and certain other simple healing methods, followed by carefully worked-out diets of natural foods. One health doctor didn’t lose a patient in eight years…

If the medical doctors had been as advanced as the drugless doctors, there would not have been those 20 million deaths from the medical flu treatment. There was seven times more disease among the vaccinated soldiers than among the unvaccinated civilians, and the diseases were those they had been vaccinated against. One soldier who had returned from overseas in 1912 told me that the army hospitals were filled with cases of infantile paralysis and he wondered why grown men should have an infant disease. Now, we know that paralysis is a common after-effect of vaccine poisoning. Those at home didn’t get the paralysis until after the world-wide vaccination campaign in 1918.

Homeopathy also gained quite a reputation during the 1918 flu pandemic. Raymond Seidel, HMD (homeopathic medical doctor), decided to be a homeopathic doctor during the 1918 flu epidemic when he was a 10-year-old delivery boy for a local homeopath. He said, “I saw that the people who were taking aspirin were dying, about half those who were drinking a lot were dying, and those that received homeopathic remedies were living.”

In Julian Winston’s article, Influenza-1918: Homeopathy to the Rescue (The New England Journal of Homeopathy, Vol. 7, No. 1, 1998), he noted that most of the deaths were caused by a virulent pneumonia that was especially devastating to those who depressed their system with analgesics, especially aspirin. The following citations from his article prove this point:

Three hundred and fifty cases and lost one, a neglected pneumonia that came to me after she had taken one hundred grains of aspirin in twenty-four hours. ~Cora Smith King, MD, Washington, DC.

I had a package handed to me containing 1,000 aspirin tablets, which was 994 too many. I think I gave about a half dozen. I could find no place for it. My remedies were few. I almost invariably gave Gelsemium and Bryonia. I hardly ever lost a case if I got there first, unless the patient had been sent to a drug store and bought aspirin, in which event I was likely to have a case of pneumonia on my hands. ~J. P. Huff, MD, Olive Branch, Kentucky.

One physician in a Pittsburgh hospital asked a nurse if she knew anything better than what he was doing, because he was losing many cases. “Yes, Doctor, stop aspirin and go down to a homeopathic pharmacy, and get homeopathic remedies.” The Doctor replied: “But that is homeopathy.” “I know it, but the homeopathic doctors for whom I have nursed have not lost a single case.” ~W. F. Edmundson, MD, Pittsburgh.

There is one drug which directly or indirectly was the cause of the loss of more lives than was influenza itself. You all know that drug. It claims to be salicylic acid. Aspirin’s history has been printed. Today you don’t know what the sedative action of salicylic acid is. It did harm in two ways. It’s indirect action came through the fact that aspirin was taken until prostration resulted and the patient developed pneumonia. ~Frank L. Newton, MD, Somerville, Massachusetts

Aspirin and the other coal tar products are condemned as causing great numbers of unnecessary deaths. The omnipresent aspirin is the most pernicious drug of all. It beguiles by its quick action of relief of pain, a relief which is but meretricious. In several cases aspirin weakened the heart, depressed the vital forces, increased the mortality in mild cases and made convalescence slower. In all cases it masks the symptoms and renders immeasurably more difficult the selection of the curative remedy. Apparently aspirin bears no curative relation to any disease and it ought to be prohibited. ~Guy Beckly Stearns, MD, New York.

By doing a bit of research into books and periodicals from the 1918 flu pandemic era, it is clear that allopathic “cures” were deadlier than the disease itself. Many homeopaths, autologists and other “drugless” doctors understood that the blood was the life force of the body and its purity was a barometer of health as well as an indicator of disease susceptibility. They also witnessed that the poisoning of the blood via yellow fever, typhoid and smallpox vaccinations was the prerequisite condition for contracting the “Spanish” flu. But even then, the flu itself was not a death sentence. The deaths occurred among those who stifled their body’s attempts to heal itself by taking allopathic potions such as aspirin and other inappropriate treatments.
 
 
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« Reply #158 on: April 24, 2009, 06:36:16 PM »

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-127713245.html

Serologic evidence of human and swine influenza in Mayan persons.(Dispatches)
January 1, 2005
Antibodies against influenza viruses were detected in 115 serum samples from indigenous Mayan persons from Kochol, Yucatan. Seropositivity rates were 26.9% to A/Bayern/7/95, 40.8% to A/Sydney/5/97, 1.7% to A/Swine/ Wisconsin/238/97, and 79.1% to A/Swine/Minnesota/ 593/99. This report is the first in Mexico of the prevalence of antibodies to swine influenza virus in humans.
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Influenza virus type A has the capacity to infect humans, birds, swine, and other animals. Studies have repeatedly shown that influenza virus can move from 1 species to another

http://www.who.int/vaccine_research/diseases/influenza/Kistner.pdf

WHO Meeting on Development and Evaluation of Influenza Pandemic Vaccines, Geneva, November 2 – 3, 2005

Baxter‘s Serum Protein Free Vero Cell Technology

Titers of Different Influenza A Virus Strains of Human or
Animal Origin in Serum Protein Free Vero Cell Cultures:

Human A/PR/8/34 256
H1N1 Human A/USSR/90/77 256
Swine A/Swine/1976/31 256
Duck A/Duck/Bavaria/2/77 256
H2N2 Human A/Singapore/1/57 128
Human A/Hong Kong/1/68 128
H3N2 Swine A/Swine/Hong Kong/3/76 128
Swine A/Swine/Hong Kong/127/82 256
Duck A/Duck/Hong Kong/24/75 256
H5N3 Duck A/Duck/Singapore/3/97 256
H7N1 Fowl A/FPV/Rostock/34 256
H9N2 Fowl A/Quail/Hongkong/G1/97 128
Human A/Hongkong/1073/99 256
H5N1 Human A/Hong Kong/213/2003 256
A/Viet Nam/1203/2004 1024
A/Viet Nam/1194/2004 1024
A/SP83/2004 (Thailand) 512

Which says they can put these all together and hope for recombinations....


http://www.aasv.org/shap/issues/v8n2/v8n2p79.pdf  Diagnosis of swine influenza
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« Reply #159 on: April 24, 2009, 06:42:04 PM »

http://scienceblogs.com/effectmeasure/2009/04/latest_on_swine_flu_from_cdc.php
"Unrelated to any swine influenza virus that has ever been identified in North America."

Nothing to see here folks, move along...


Hey the comments up your link are all from pathetic sheeps. Everyone should post some info about vaccination, eugenics and bio-weapons for those fools so that they cant say we haven't warned them...
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