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« Reply #80 on: April 13, 2010, 08:11:41 AM » |
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Yesterday (12 April 2010), another census-taker came a knocking at my door--this time I did not answer. I watched her drive away and go to my neighbor's across the road (who are also home), and noticed, they too, didn't answer their door as well!  |
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« Reply #81 on: April 13, 2010, 08:36:43 AM » |
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« Reply #82 on: April 13, 2010, 12:56:58 PM » |
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(13 April 2010) The persistent pest came again today around lunchtime, and again, I did not answer the door. The question was already answered. We have nothing more to say to them!  |
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"People that don't want to make waves sit in stagnant waters."
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« Reply #83 on: April 13, 2010, 01:13:32 PM » |
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We sent their form back with the first questioned answered correctly, and left the rest blank. My understanding is that I have no Constitutional obligation to answer or even respond to those other questions during a census, therefore to be consistant, I feel I shouldn't even acknowledge them in any way on the form, otherwise to me that would be a fraudulant answer, and in opposition to my understanding of constitutional law.
Legally, any questions other than the number of voting age residents for the purpose of a national census is unconstitutional, in my opinion.
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« Reply #84 on: April 13, 2010, 01:41:09 PM » |
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We sent their form back with the first questioned answered correctly, and left the rest blank. My understanding is that I have no Constitutional obligation to answer or even respond to those other questions during a census, therefore to be consistant, I feel I shouldn't even acknowledge them in any way on the form, otherwise to me that would be a fraudulant answer, and in opposition to my understanding of constitutional law.
Legally, any questions other than the number of voting age residents for the purpose of a national census is unconstitutional, in my opinion.
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"People that don't want to make waves sit in stagnant waters."
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« Reply #85 on: April 13, 2010, 06:41:46 PM » |
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That's the problem, it makes the owner look like a moron.
I always say, if you're gonna take the time to make a sign, make sure everything is spelled correctly.
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« Reply #86 on: April 13, 2010, 08:45:19 PM » |
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We sent their form back with the first questioned answered correctly, and left the rest blank. My understanding is that I have no Constitutional obligation to answer or even respond to those other questions during a census, therefore to be consistant, I feel I shouldn't even acknowledge them in any way on the form, otherwise to me that would be a fraudulant answer, and in opposition to my understanding of constitutional law.
Legally, any questions other than the number of voting age residents for the purpose of a national census is unconstitutional, in my opinion.
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« Reply #87 on: May 13, 2010, 03:31:25 PM » |
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Okay so...
I filled out the one question I needed to fill out on the census form.
First, a lady came over and gave a note to my daughter. I called the number and explained to them that I filled out the census form already, and that no further information was required. They denied that the numbers (which they asked me for) on the form were GPS numbers.
The lady came over again, again, I was unavailable, when my tenant answered the door, and spoke with the lady, she said "So you refuse to answer the questions?"
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I called the number, once again, to explain to them that I had no obligation to answer anymore questions. They understood, and that was that....
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Well, today, I got a call--- again, from another census taker, and I was trying to figure out, "HOW THE HELL DID THEY GET MY PHONE NUMBER WHEN I NEVER GAVE IT."
Well, I explained to the guy that I already answered the question on the form, and he said, "Is it right that 5 people live here?" And I said, "No, I legibly wrote on the form that seven people live here." And he said "That's why we need to verify these things." I thought to myself, "Um because you can't read a NUMBER 7?" Then he proceeded to ask me if this was my name, and I said, "Hold on a second. I never filled out that information, and I have no obligation to answer that question, and you have no right asking me it because it's none of your business."
He said, "Section (blah blah blah) of the privacy code says we can't share this information" or whatever and I said, "Look, I talked to a lawyer. I know the law. I don't have to give that information. The census is for enumeration only, and I don't have to answer any more questions other than how many people live here." He sounded kind of exasperated. I said "I don't mean to be rude, but I know the law, and that's all I am going to answer." And he said, "Have a nice day, then." And I said, "Bye."
What the heck? I am so sick of these people!!!!!
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« Reply #88 on: May 13, 2010, 05:16:27 PM » |
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It's frustrating indeed, but people need to stand for what's right, just like you did. Many of the people involved in that whole ordeal aren't even aware of their constitutional rights, they just get the job and do what gets them a paycheck.
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« Reply #89 on: May 13, 2010, 05:22:47 PM » |
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Lucky He didn't try to rape ya.....
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« Reply #90 on: May 14, 2010, 02:45:04 PM » |
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(13 April 2010) The persistent pest came again today around lunchtime, and again, I did not answer the door. The question was already answered. We have nothing more to say to them! Perhaps we should do it 'congressman' style. Have them contact your 'secretary' and arrange a time for a meeting. Then, after that, you can send them a canned letter and request a change on the appointment time due to 'pressing issues that arose'. |
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« Reply #91 on: May 14, 2010, 03:30:15 PM » |
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With all those visits, you should have been videotaping them.
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« Reply #92 on: May 15, 2010, 09:10:19 AM » |
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Perhaps we should do it 'congressman' style.
Have them contact your 'secretary' and arrange a time for a meeting. Then, after that, you can send them a canned letter and request a change on the appointment time due to 'pressing issues that arose'.
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"To be normal, to drink Coca-Cola and eat Kentucky Fried Chicken is to be in a conspiracy against yourself."
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« Reply #93 on: May 16, 2010, 07:12:03 AM » |
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"To be normal, to drink Coca-Cola and eat Kentucky Fried Chicken is to be in a conspiracy against yourself."
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« Reply #94 on: May 16, 2010, 07:37:04 AM » |
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I forgot this great quote from the movie-- Silence of The Lambs "A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVlkZVAw8Gc |
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"To be normal, to drink Coca-Cola and eat Kentucky Fried Chicken is to be in a conspiracy against yourself."
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« Reply #95 on: May 16, 2010, 09:18:04 AM » |
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My experience last week.
I saw her GPSING from the sidewalk, then she came to the door. They came because they "didn't get ze papers in the mail" So I straight told the lady I will not release my age income or race to the Federal Government. She looked semi panicky and said OK. Then she asked how many people were here on April 1st, I gave the honest answer she said ok and left. I win minus the GPS which they could get whenever really.
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« Reply #96 on: May 18, 2010, 12:04:11 PM » |
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So an update:
ANOTHER WORKER CAME OVER TO MY HOUSE AGAIN!!!!!
Called my congressional rep (again) and explained the situation. They're supposed to be getting back to me.
So let's recap: "How many times does a census worker have to contact (harass) a homeowner before they leave them alone?"(and we still don't know if they're done yet.)
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« Reply #97 on: May 18, 2010, 12:35:55 PM » |
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So an update:
ANOTHER WORKER CAME OVER TO MY HOUSE AGAIN!!!!!
Called my congressional rep (again) and explained the situation. They're supposed to be getting back to me.
So let's recap: "How many times does a census worker have to contact (harass) a homeowner before they leave them alone?"(and we still don't know if they're done yet.)
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« Reply #98 on: May 21, 2010, 06:47:01 AM » |
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So an update:
ANOTHER WORKER CAME OVER TO MY HOUSE AGAIN!!!!!
Called my congressional rep (again) and explained the situation. They're supposed to be getting back to me.
So let's recap: "How many times does a census worker have to contact (harass) a homeowner before they leave them alone?"(and we still don't know if they're done yet.)
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... So another census taker came over to my house, this time knocking on my back door, asking about my neighbors. ... ... Then he asked my name (how convenient) and of course I told him that was none of his business. So 1... 2... 3... 4... 5... Five times so far now. Playin' phone tag with Steve Kagan's office now, hopefully I'll be able to talk to the LA over there and get a report in. |
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« Reply #99 on: May 21, 2010, 07:41:58 AM » |
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So another census taker came over to my house, this time knocking on my back door, asking about my neighbors.
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Then he asked my name (how convenient) and of course I told him that was none of his business.
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Five times so far now. Playin' phone tag with Steve Kagan's office now, hopefully I'll be able to talk to the LA over there and get a report in.
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