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2) Melvin Watt (D-NC) (a guy who has not signed on as a co-sponsor and whose asst (I called) said he doesn't co-sponsor bills. I asked her then how do we know he is on our side on this issue?) is pushing for this to be included in the regulation bill forthcoming. He also cites a lot of Federal Reserve website documents. This guy appears like he is on the FEDS SIDE while pretending to be somewhat for this to be inserted into the huge regulatory bill so that it's not noticed and neutered. IMO, this guy is not working for the right side and simply reads what he has been given, IMO.
Hey Joe. Thanks for covering this, and bump to all posts. Watts playing both ends, but his position is NWO. Makes ya wonder if it is bribery or blackmail. Either way, he is a traitor.
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« Reply #721 on: September 26, 2009, 07:43:10 AM » |
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I cannot imagine that I am the first one to come up with this idea regarding loans to big business:
When Joe Schmuckatelli goes to the bank, let's say BOA, and asks for a loan. The bank does an analysis to see if he is loan worthy. They check his credit history and work history. They check his income to debt ratio. They check his spending habits. If he is not credit worthy by that criteria then he gets no loan.
If a big business goes to the gov for a loan, the same criteria should be applied and the applicant judged just like all citizens are here. If Joe is going to be judged harshly for overspending where the lenders think is too much, so too, the big businesses.
Bank of America denies home loans to many Americans yet got bailout money. The Fed actually owns the banks if you want to get to the root of it. Now the Fed has shown financial lack of discipline. Take their power and scrutinize every dollar. Like the IRS scrutinizes ours.
Hence the term crony-capitalism.
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« Reply #722 on: September 26, 2009, 07:47:30 PM » |
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The Fed Lawyer talked about the Federal Reserve executing trades through "PRIMARY DEALERS" Here's the FED Primary Dealers list: (Rep Grayson finally got this much out of the lawyer)http://www.ny.frb.org/markets/pridealers_current.htmlPrimary Dealers List Memorandum to all Primary Dealers and Recipients of the Weekly Press Release on Dealer Positions and Transactions
The latest list reflects the following changes:
Effective July 27, 2009, Nomura Securities International, Inc. has been added to the list of primary dealers.
List of the Primary Government Securities Dealers Reporting to the Government Securities Dealers Statistics Unit of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York
BNP Paribas Securities Corp. Banc of America Securities LLC Barclays Capital Inc. Cantor Fitzgerald & Co. Citigroup Global Markets Inc. Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC Daiwa Securities America Inc. Deutsche Bank Securities Inc. Goldman, Sachs & Co. HSBC Securities (USA) Inc. Jefferies & Company, Inc. J. P. Morgan Securities Inc. Mizuho Securities USA Inc. Morgan Stanley & Co. Incorporated Nomura Securities International, Inc. RBC Capital Markets Corporation RBS Securities Inc. UBS Securities LLC.
NOTE: This list has been compiled and made available for statistical purposes only and has no significance with respect to other relationships between dealers and the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. Qualification for the reporting list is based on the achievement and maintenance of the standards outlined in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York's memorandum of January 22, 1992.
Government Securities Dealers Statistics Unit Federal Reserve Bank of New York July 27, 2009
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« Reply #723 on: September 26, 2009, 09:17:25 PM » |
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So these organizations are the ones who did insider trading. HMMM I am sick to death of these ______________!
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« Reply #724 on: September 27, 2009, 07:59:48 AM » |
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Wow, look at how many of them had gotten a bailout too. BNP Paribas Securities Corp. Banc of America Securities LLC - Assuming Bank of America? - 15 billion Barclays Capital Inc. Cantor Fitzgerald & Co. Citigroup Global Markets Inc. - 25 billion Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC Daiwa Securities America Inc. Deutsche Bank Securities Inc. Goldman, Sachs & Co. - 10 billion HSBC Securities (USA) Inc. Jefferies & Company, Inc. J. P. Morgan Securities Inc. - 25 billion Mizuho Securities USA Inc. Morgan Stanley & Co. Incorporated - 10 billion Nomura Securities International, Inc. RBC Capital Markets Corporation RBS Securities Inc. UBS Securities LLC.
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« Reply #725 on: September 27, 2009, 08:40:42 AM » |
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Isn't that interesting? The walls are starting to crumble around the "SECRETS OF THE TEMPLE"! Bernanke and his cronies are going to be brought to justice, and are going to have to own up to their scams since the inception of the Federal Reserve in 1913! They best get a better atty than the weasel who testified at the HR 1207 hearings. The man was lying as shown by his body language and his eyes when Grayson was owning him with his questions. You could see him, as his eyes left Graysons, trying to recall his talking points under heat. It was rather comical watching his antics while being grilled. For once the tables were turned and these people who think they are 'gods' are the ones fearful now. Their days of intimidating the public and Congress ARE OVER! P.s. IMO, Cantor Fitzgerald played a role (as many of these guys probably did) in insider trading on 911 and other scams). They also had a role in creating the New Rules Set Project. What business does a BOND COMPANY have in getting involved in something like this? http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=1253http://z4.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Deception/index.php?showtopic=1254
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« Reply #727 on: September 28, 2009, 08:02:03 AM » |
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So what, exactly, did this "hearing" accomplish? All I could "hear" were a bunch of questions with no answers.
And...
What happens next?
It seems this hearing was swept under the rug, with no news coverage, so nobody even knows the hearing happened.
Was this hearing just another distraction and ploy to stall the bill?
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« Reply #728 on: September 28, 2009, 08:40:12 AM » |
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Very good question. Now what? I didn't hear anything about when the next meeting/hearing or action is taking place.
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« Reply #729 on: September 28, 2009, 09:35:54 AM » |
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Very good question. Now what? I didn't hear anything about when the next meeting/hearing or action is taking place.
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I called the House Financial Services Committee and asked about the procedure after a bill has had its first hearing. She said that the next step would be a Mark Up (editing) of the bill and/or a House Floor Vote on the bill. Either way it will show up in the Scheduling section of the House Financial Services Committee website just like where we found the Hr 1207 hearing scheduled. She's not sure how long this takes, but I heard Barney saying something about October for a floor vote. So, now it's another waiting game! Let's hope they don't bundle it in the huge Financial Regulatory bill that the Fed is pushing for. This would be a disgrace if this happens, IMO. This bill needs to be voted on purely on its own merit! House Financial Services Markup Website & Hearing Website: (If they edit the bill, it should show up on Markup site eventually)http://financialservices.house.gov/markups.shtmlhttp://financialservices.house.gov/hearings_all.shtmlHere is a copy of the House Financial Services Committee Rules:http://financialservices.house.gov/pdf/111th-fsc-rules-pamphlet.pdf
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« Reply #730 on: September 28, 2009, 09:49:51 AM » |
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House Financial Services Committee phone #:
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« Reply #731 on: September 28, 2009, 07:58:41 PM » |
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The Fed Lawyer talked about the Federal Reserve executing trades through "PRIMARY DEALERS" Here's the FED Primary Dealers list: (Rep Grayson finally got this much out of the lawyer)http://www.ny.frb.org/markets/pridealers_current.htmlBasically the banks that make up the Federal Reserve plus a few. It's quite the operation; the Fed decides on the scam du jour; the Treasury hands them the money(sort of); the Fed executes the scam; the Treasury borrows more money from the Fed and other entities; Rinse; Repeat.
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« Reply #732 on: September 29, 2009, 11:13:22 AM » |
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Basically the banks that make up the Federal Reserve plus a few. It's quite the operation; the Fed decides on the scam du jour; the Treasury hands them the money(sort of); the Fed executes the scam; the Treasury borrows more money from the Fed and other entities; Rinse; Repeat.
It's really amazing these thugs have gotten by with it for so many years! However, I guess it isn't really surprising when you have Congressmen with no backbone, no sense, no knowledge of history, and who allow themselves to be bought due to their lack of integrity and ego. THIS IS A RECEIPE FOR LIARS AND THUGS TO INFEST ANYTHING!
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« Reply #733 on: September 29, 2009, 05:47:07 PM » |
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It's really amazing these thugs have gotten by with it for so many years! However, I guess it isn't really surprising when you have Congressmen with no backbone, no sense, no knowledge of history, and who allow themselves to be bought due to their lack of integrity and ego. THIS IS A RECEIPE FOR LIARS AND THUGS TO INFEST ANYTHING!
Remember, the Fed is a monopoly partnership which allows Congress to spend like there's no tomorrow without directly raising taxes. We just feel it through inflation - the "silent theft". It's not that hard to see why this system breeds such corruption.
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« Reply #736 on: October 01, 2009, 04:10:39 PM » |
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When will we reach the glorious 300?
A while back I thought we had it in the bag, sure is taking a long time for our "representatives" to feel the heat.
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« Reply #737 on: October 02, 2009, 09:10:09 AM » |
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« Reply #738 on: October 02, 2009, 09:10:57 AM » |
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When will we reach the glorious 300?
A while back I thought we had it in the bag, sure is taking a long time for our "representatives" to feel the heat.
I predict it will happen very soon. The pressure is on, and even the ignorant ones on the HILL are figuring this out finally as each Fed person (and their accomplices) lies in Congressional hearings! 
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« Reply #739 on: October 02, 2009, 03:13:52 PM » |
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Audit the Fed! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvup0C8PcYATo hell with the skeptics we've got the momentum. HR 1207 has passed the House. We now need to focus on the Senate's version S 604.
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« Reply #740 on: October 04, 2009, 09:35:36 AM » |
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The Co-Sponsor Count is now 300 - Campaign for Liberty is reporting (Including Ron Paul the Sponsor)http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=26043#Will post the new names as soon as they show up on Thomas legislation website! SANE, Time to roll out those beers you promised! 
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« Reply #742 on: October 04, 2009, 02:34:35 PM » |
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The Co-Sponsor Count is now 300 - Campaign for Liberty is reporting (Including Ron Paul the Sponsor)http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=26043#Will post the new names as soon as they show up on Thomas legislation website! SANE, Time to roll out those beers you promised!  
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« Reply #743 on: October 04, 2009, 02:37:00 PM » |
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Yes, I did! Excellent! Thx for posting the link here. 
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« Reply #744 on: October 04, 2009, 02:37:38 PM » |
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Woo hoo! glug glug
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« Reply #745 on: October 04, 2009, 02:37:44 PM » |
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« Reply #746 on: October 04, 2009, 02:49:01 PM » |
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What is the most co-sponsors a bill has had and never gone to the floor for vote? Can this bill be still be stopped at this point?
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« Reply #747 on: October 04, 2009, 03:17:15 PM » |
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Is AJ going to release his Vids form Hardin??
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« Reply #748 on: October 04, 2009, 03:34:06 PM » |
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Finaly.
This will be a moment in USA history, Polosi eat a shiiite sandwich!
Great news, well worth the wait.
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« Reply #749 on: October 04, 2009, 07:42:41 PM » |
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What is the most co-sponsors a bill has had and never gone to the floor for vote? Can this bill be still be stopped at this point?
300 "YES" votes stops a VETO by the President. IMO, this is a RECORD, as far as number of co-sponsors for a bill. We must keep the pressure up so that all of these people indeed vote for this when it comes to the House floor. If they change their vote, the wrath of GOD should be unleashed on these Congressmen and they must be voted out of office at the next election. They don't get a 2nd chance IMO if they cave on this IMPORTANT VOTE.
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« Reply #751 on: October 07, 2009, 10:14:29 AM » |
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Alright, we hit 300! Woot! Everyone gets a round of these on me: 
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« Reply #752 on: October 07, 2009, 10:33:22 AM » |
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80% + chance you won't get a co-sponsorship out of Artur Davis. He is supposedly not sponsoring anything as he is going to run for governor of Alabama in 2010. Next big thing is getting the Senators on their bill. Jeff Sessions of Alabama has stated to me in a mailing that he won't vote for it because there is already accountability going on through private auditors. *rolls eyes*
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« Reply #753 on: October 07, 2009, 12:11:33 PM » |
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80% + chance you won't get a co-sponsorship out of Artur Davis. He is supposedly not sponsoring anything as he is going to run for governor of Alabama in 2010.
Next big thing is getting the Senators on their bill. Jeff Sessions of Alabama has stated to me in a mailing that he won't vote for it because there is already accountability going on through private auditors. *rolls eyes*
Jeff Sessions loves to play both sides of all the issues. He is a Good Ole Boy who "goes along to get along". It's time for Alabama to wise up! (same applies to voters in many States) As far as Artur goes. If he can't show the people he supports TRANSPARENCY, what kind of Gov would he make? Don't VOTE FOR HIM PERIOD! This is a red flag, IMO, that he would be more of the same! NOTE: Thx for the tip on Artur! I think we should start his Governorship campaign now! Check this out: http://www.scribd.com/doc/17353079/HR-1207-House-Reps-Not-CoSponsors-Yet-Listed-by-State
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« Reply #755 on: October 07, 2009, 12:39:49 PM » |
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Lois Crapps, D-CA, House of Representatives 23rd District
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« Reply #756 on: October 07, 2009, 12:43:47 PM » |
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Lois Crapps, D-CA, House of Representatives 23rd District So, what's the issue with Lois Capps? Why is she not voting for this? Need more info.
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« Reply #757 on: October 07, 2009, 12:47:33 PM » |
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Jeff Sessions loves to play both sides of all the issues. He is a Good Ole Boy who "goes along to get along". It's time for Alabama to wise up! (same applies to voters in many States) As far as Artur goes. If he can't show the people he supports TRANSPARENCY, what kind of Gov would he make? Don't VOTE FOR HIM PERIOD! This is a red flag, IMO, that he would be more of the same! NOTE: Thx for the tip on Artur! I think we should start his Governorship campaign now! Check this out: http://www.scribd.com/doc/17353079/HR-1207-House-Reps-Not-CoSponsors-Yet-Listed-by-StateSessions may be the good ole boy, but Richard (Dick) Shelby is the most corrupt out of the two. This all stems back to before he became a switch hitter when Repubs took both sides of Congress in 1994
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« Reply #758 on: October 07, 2009, 12:49:13 PM » |
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Sessions may be the good ole boy, but Richard (Dick) Shelby is the most corrupt out of the two. This all stems back to before he became a switch hitter when Repubs took both sides of Congress in 1994
I agree on Shelby also. I've also witnessed him speaking out of both sides of his mouth! There is no leadership quality in either one of them. IF YOU HAVE NO BACKBONE TO STAND UP TO THE ELITE BOYZ, THEN IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO LEAVE OFFICE! HOPEFULLY THE PEOPLE OF ALABAMA WILL WISE UP IN 2010 and kick these two out!
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« Reply #759 on: October 07, 2009, 12:51:56 PM » |
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So, what's the issue with Lois Capps? Why is she not voting for this? Need more info.
I have no clue. Over 300 co's and she is nowhere to be found. She is one horrible 'representative', and she is only in there because in 1999 her husband died while in office, and so in the next election everyone voted for her because they 'felt bad'.
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