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You already won.
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« Reply #2244 on: March 10, 2009, 05:04:56 PM » |
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your capitalist utopia has already failed
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your capitalist utopia has already failed
You're using the internet and probably the thousands of products as a result of it are you not? Your comment was almost too stupid to offer a reply to but I just couldn't help myself. |
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your capitalist utopia has already failed
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« Reply #2247 on: March 10, 2009, 05:10:37 PM » |
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Not to mention the computer... the software that tells the computer what to do... all the little bits and peices that go into making the computer... the electricity supplied to your house... on and on and on.
We can avoid a whole massive PH.D paper sized debate on it if you just pay attention for a microsecond.
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« Reply #2248 on: March 10, 2009, 06:31:07 PM » |
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Ive seen more posts about UFOS and 2012 the world blowing up from this forum than productive viral feed to the public causing awareness.
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« Reply #2250 on: March 10, 2009, 07:05:55 PM » |
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just looking where the moderators moved this thread, cateogory wise.... Shows you how close minded this forum is.
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please describe what you are talking about? what capitalism are you refering to? $10 Trillion Bailouts/Gov spending? This is capitalism? |
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ya'll blame dave rockefeller et al for whats happening. they are not the disease, they are the sympton. capitalism is the cause. sure you can remove rockefeller, but as long as capitalism remains, someone else will just take his place and do the exact same thing
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humans are bad
work makes you free
money is bad
arbeit macht frei mein fuhror ja
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« Reply #2255 on: March 10, 2009, 11:50:03 PM » |
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ya'll blame dave rockefeller et al for whats happening. they are not the disease, they are the sympton. capitalism is the cause. sure you can remove rockefeller, but as long as capitalism remains, someone else will just take his place and do the exact same thing
EXACTLY. The age of aquarius is upon us, and people are thinking differently. Anything alex jones preaches is just to remove rockefellers. Zeitgeist is killing the root of the problem. Money. |
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I'm still pretty surprised when people actually believe in Zeitgeist and don't see it for the NWO propaganda crap that it is.
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ya'll blame dave rockefeller et al for whats happening. they are not the disease, they are the sympton. capitalism is the cause. sure you can remove rockefeller, but as long as capitalism remains, someone else will just take his place and do the exact same thing
hahahaha these butheads set the monetary policy and you blame the idea of individual freedoms to posses, accumulate, work for, and trade capital? They are the ones that have been destroying individual capital rights. capital exists, whether you spread the rights to it over a large group of people or not. right now the government owns an unholy percentage of capital (actually the int'l banks do, using gov as their security guards). yeah, do not blame the people who have stole all the capital, blame the false interpretation they feed you about a system they destroyed (just to start a new one which is more oppresive than their faux-capital system we are currently under). |
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« Reply #2259 on: March 11, 2009, 12:51:18 PM » |
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Hello there! Venus project huh? Do you believe in a technological Utopia? Do you want to live in the New Atlantis? Or on the Starship Enterprise?  Zeitgeist? Eek get it away! I'm sorry, I thought I was among more open minded individuals. OK, so you obviously do not take Venus or Zeitgeist seriously, that is your entitlement, but my question to you is why not? What am I missing? I need to know because I was under the impression that these were good things. I thought that the questions raised in Zeitgeist were valid and begged rational debate. As for Venus, I know it looks a bit 'Space age' but it is just an idea, one which it seems to me should be applauded and encouraged. But I've obviously missed the point here, maybe you can enlighten me with your acumen |
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Venus project huh?
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Hello there! Venus project huh? Do you believe in a technological Utopia? Do you want to live in the New Atlantis? Or on the Starship Enterprise? Zeitgeist? Eek get it away! God forbid someone doesn't believe the way you do. All opinions and thoughts should be welcome here. Welcome Bluesphinx, disregard the forum prison guards. |
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I'm sorry, I thought I was among more open minded individuals.
OK, so you obviously do not take Venus or Zeitgeist seriously, that is your entitlement, but my question to you is why not? What am I missing? I need to know because I was under the impression that these were good things. I thought that the questions raised in Zeitgeist were valid and begged rational debate. As for Venus, I know it looks a bit 'Space age' but it is just an idea, one which it seems to me should be applauded and encouraged.
But I've obviously missed the point here, maybe you can enlighten me with your acumen
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Zeitgeist is propaganda, and i do not blame you for buying into it.
The banking part of the first one was real, the rest is all nonsense.
It is a push for a utopian cashless society......... you will learn, keep researching.
Not long on the forum and two people are telling you what you should believe. Wow. Subjective opinion does not equal fact. By the way the Bible also teaches us of a cashless Utopia, I believe it is called Heaven. |
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« Reply #2264 on: March 11, 2009, 04:30:16 PM » |
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Not long on the forum and two people are telling you what you should believe. Wow.
Subjective opinion does not equal fact.
By the way the Bible also teaches us of a cashless Utopia, I believe it is called Heaven.
Thanx NX> One thing is for sure-wherever Heaven is it isn't here and now, although I really wish it was. This life, this Earth, both carry such huge potential to become Heaven, all that needs to change is some people's attitudes. I'd love to see a world where every human being is custodian of his or her own little plot of land-and it should come without a price tag, because land ownership is totally immoral, just like saying you own the sky! We ALL deserve a life of justice, equality, peace, and security. A life lived where common sense rules, A life without wars and crime, free from the ruling cabals, and free from the poverty and hardship propagated by one thing...money, and it's bastard-greed. Well, there are more of us than there are of them. I hope we can find the will to one day change from the status quo to the 'Utopia' that I dream of. Then we'd all have a real shot at Heaven. |
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Zeigeist movement is exactly what the NWO really is -- the whole of it.
Everything is regulated and everything alloted to you via cashless society where technology runs everything.
The kicker to all this is people actually want the NWO governmental system -- which is exactly to the microdecimal what the Zeitgeist movement is.
It's been said time and time again -- Problem Reaction Solution -- and when the NWO unveils it's plans that are a mirror image of the venus project or the venus project -- people will line up and think it is a great idea.
I don't have the patience to explain it more than that -- it's obvious to me and many others so I will just tell you this:
Utopia's fail -- always -- aside from the realization that zeitgeist is the NWO. Hard to understand I know. It's a carrot in front of your face -- looks tasty but it's really made of razor wire.
I meant no disrespect in my post.
It is a legitimate question: Do you want to live in the New Atlantis?
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Don't forget people we all were 'partially awake' at one point or another.  - He ignored the later research proving non-null results of repeated Miacheal-Morrison experiments. The results would have destroyed him publically, and by then his theorums were famous. However he later admitted all his known formulas would collapse in the light of the results... In the 1930's these experiments were being conducted and ignored by the scientific community - Today we are all paying for it. http://www.scribd.com/doc/3098582/Kinetic-Theory-of-GravitationI had watched probably over 30 documentries on conspiracy and did not even know about the guy they called 'Alex Jones.' I found out the whole agenda by accident because I was simply bored with the mainstream rubble and started downloaded oddball stuff. The one oddball thing that started to wake me up was the 'Open Your Eyes DVD' Series - a series of 10 DVD's loaded with various Divx documentries. So even a person could have studied this stuff for some time and still not know about the complete false paradigm that is presented to the public about issue X. A good example of this is even the most seasoned veterans of conspiratorial research probably have no idea that the science is a false front as well. Sure the standard model works - it just leaves out any parts or information that would enable you to garner unlimited free energy, or understand how gravity works. How convenient. |
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there are several open minds on this forum. the mindset that is unilateral here however is the desire to be present at the celebration. the victory celebration. you Brits can relate, take VE Day or VJ Day for example for us it's VNWO Day. you want heaven and still be able to snap the neck off a bottle of two hundred year old champagne. we know where that resides and so do they. what will it be, victory or that special plot of land the NWO has prepared for us, commonly known as mass graves. It won't be over until it's over, over there and here. ready your crew the fight is at hand. spread the word.
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Thanx NX>
One thing is for sure-wherever Heaven is it isn't here and now, although I really wish it was.
This life, this Earth, both carry such huge potential to become Heaven, all that needs to change is some people's attitudes.
I'd love to see a world where every human being is custodian of his or her own little plot of land-and it should come without a price tag, because land ownership is totally immoral, just like saying you own the sky!
We ALL deserve a life of justice, equality, peace, and security. A life lived where common sense rules, A life without wars and crime, free from the ruling cabals, and free from the poverty and hardship propagated by one thing...money, and it's bastard-greed.
Well, there are more of us than there are of them. I hope we can find the will to one day change from the status quo to the 'Utopia' that I dream of.
Then we'd all have a real shot at Heaven.
"I'd love to see a world where every human being is custodian of his or her own little plot of land-and it should come without a price tag, because land ownership is totally immoral, just like saying you own the sky!"Odd. I believe the exact opposite of that part in bold. When you own something, you tend to protect its value. But when nobody, or everybody owns it, nobody cares because everyone assumes someone else will protect it. |
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I'm sorry, I thought I was among more open minded individuals.
OK, so you obviously do not take Venus or Zeitgeist seriously, that is your entitlement, but my question to you is why not? What am I missing? I need to know because I was under the impression that these were good things. I thought that the questions raised in Zeitgeist were valid and begged rational debate. As for Venus, I know it looks a bit 'Space age' but it is just an idea, one which it seems to me should be applauded and encouraged.
But I've obviously missed the point here, maybe you can enlighten me with your acumen
There never will be a "UTOPIA" because human nature is basically flawed. From mankind's very beginnings, there has been some system of 'value', meaning there has to be a way to ascribe value to different things, whether it is a rock, or a watermelon. That is all money is - a way of determining the particular value of something to someone. For heaven's sake, in DUNE, "spice" was their currency. In ancient Sumer, etc - it was livestock, etc. So money itself is not 'evil' - it's "The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil". So, where is the problem? Within man himself. So, the "Venus" project (and the Aquarian 'evolution' of man) resolves to (in reality) change "MAN". How do they propose to do that? With technology, of course. But WHO should be the ones to decide "how" and "who" to change? Well, you have the 'elite' to make those decisions, don't you? It is ending the importance/value of the 'individual' for the sake of the "group". If that is what you think is the answer to the world's problems, I suggest you be the first to step up and allow them to 'change' you with their technology.  |
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I'm sorry, I thought I was among more open minded individuals.
OK, so you obviously do not take Venus or Zeitgeist seriously, that is your entitlement, but my question to you is why not? What am I missing? I need to know because I was under the impression that these were good things. I thought that the questions raised in Zeitgeist were valid and begged rational debate. As for Venus, I know it looks a bit 'Space age' but it is just an idea, one which it seems to me should be applauded and encouraged.
But I've obviously missed the point here, maybe you can enlighten me with your acumen
If you are interested in why people are quick to respond concerning the venus project, please take a look as some of the pages in this very thread. It should be self explanatory. This "new" idea is actually a cleverly constructed plan by luciferian elites to completely deny the individual of any independent thought whatsoever. I mean if you are really interested in the vision portrayed in the venus project (some people really do not care much for it, but others are seduced by it) then it might be worthwhile to just read some of the posts within this thread. |
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Another point to Sane.
It is true -- the Venus project is the NWO in all it's entirity -- coupled with the Zeitgeist propaganda against the Judeo-Christian ideals it is the perfect storm of propaganda.
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There never will be a "UTOPIA" because human nature is basically flawed. From mankind's very beginnings, there has been some system of 'value', meaning there has to be a way to ascribe value to different things, whether it is a rock, or a watermelon. That is all money is - a way of determining the particular value of something to someone. For heaven's sake, in DUNE, "spice" was their currency. In ancient Sumer, etc - it was livestock, etc. So money itself is not 'evil' - it's "The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil". So, where is the problem? Within man himself. So, the "Venus" project (and the Aquarian 'evolution' of man) resolves to (in reality) change "MAN". How do they propose to do that? With technology, of course. But WHO should be the ones to decide "how" and "who" to change? Well, you have the 'elite' to make those decisions, don't you? It is ending the importance/value of the 'individual' for the sake of the "group". If that is what you think is the answer to the world's problems, I suggest you be the first to step up and allow them to 'change' you with their technology. Very well said. |
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Thanx NX>
One thing is for sure-wherever Heaven is it isn't here and now, although I really wish it was.
This life, this Earth, both carry such huge potential to become Heaven, all that needs to change is some people's attitudes.
I'd love to see a world where every human being is custodian of his or her own little plot of land-and it should come without a price tag, because land ownership is totally immoral, just like saying you own the sky!
We ALL deserve a life of justice, equality, peace, and security. A life lived where common sense rules, A life without wars and crime, free from the ruling cabals, and free from the poverty and hardship propagated by one thing...money, and it's bastard-greed.
Well, there are more of us than there are of them. I hope we can find the will to one day change from the status quo to the 'Utopia' that I dream of.
Then we'd all have a real shot at Heaven.
I would have to say this is a bit unrealistic at best. You do understand that money is just a medium of exchange? There will always be some sort of 'money' even if it's as simple as I will trade you my grapes for your oranges while waiting at the bus stop. In that instance, grapes constitute money. Obsessive greed is the problem, not money itself. Regarding the part about land ownership, if we don't pay for it, I assume we don't own it, because if we did own it, we would have the right to sell it at a later date. So, if no one owns the property, who decides who gets what? What happens when people die? What happens when there is not enough land left for everyone? Do we start cutting up the land we gave to people? As an aside, you do realize that all human rights and personal liberties are derived from property ownership? |
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Except that I would say property ownership is a huge part -- not all of it.
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Are any of you guys planning on going to a zday in your local area?
Peter Joseph and Jacque Fresco will be doing the New york one which has sold out already, but will be streaming online for you guys to watch if you cant make it.
But theres ones all over the world in your local areas people are putting on.
anyone planning to host one, or go to one?
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I cant believe you guys remove anything to do with another website into the whining and ufo threads.
youre doing it none stop with every post about a particular event and site. [Z]
you moderators know exactly what im talking about.
I just made a simple post about it and youve moved it to "whining and ufo threads." ?
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whats with the us and them mentality going on here?
this place is stinking. count me out.
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