Zeitgeist Deception - Producer no longer feels 9/11 was an inside job

[Rock]

Bullhorning someone and conducting an interview are two completely different things. 

So you would be Gentile with Bush in an interview with his known philosophy's?  Your a better man than me.  I guess what Peter said was right....I need reconditioning.




Rock

[bliss]

that's right. he's not covering it up very well. wake up.

[Rock]

What proof do you have to call Peter Joseph a disinfo agent?  I disagree with about everything he says, but a disinfo agent?  Maybe a arrogant spoiled brat with no sense of reality, but I think it is premature to call him a disino agent, I mean he has woken a lot of people up to the new world order.  If he is a disinfo agent, he is not covering it up very good.

Proof?  Just the fact he is against organized religion is proof.  That is an assult on my freedom.  Does a disinfo agent need credentials from a school?



Rock

[deconstructmyhouse]

Joseph's mind is closed up so tight..he is an empirical science control freak.  He has all his ego invested in his theory.
Technology is not our savior.  Staying true to the dictates of our own soul: that is our salvation.

I think AJ was intuitively shouting him down, knowing in his gut the guy is barking up a very wrong tree.  AJ doesn't intellectualize with guests, he shoots from the hip.  This guy seems like NWO light, but with no understanding of human nature.

[derek17]

Nonsense, the bigger gap is because Alex is firmly rooted in reality and Peter apparently doesnt no shit about history and 'great societies.'

Yeah, but if they could get past the religion aspect, I think they could agree to disagree about the rest.  I mean AJ admits that the reason he never mentioned the first Zeitgeist is because it attacked Christianity.   Its not just AJ that needs to look past religion, Peter does too.  It would serve the world better if they would just quit arguing about and talk about ways to defeat the New World Order.  

[DCUBED]

What proof do you have to call Peter Joseph a disinfo agent?  I disagree with about everything he says, but a disinfo agent?  Maybe a arrogant spoiled brat with no sense of reality, but I think it is premature to call him a disino agent, I mean he has woken a lot of people up to the new world order.  If he is a disinfo agent, he is not covering it up very good.

Yeah, I don't believe he's a disinfo agent either.  I don't agree with alot of what he says but that doesn't make him an agent.

[InfoTruth]

So you would be Gentile with Bush in an interview with his known philosophy's?  Your a better man than me.  I guess what Peter said was right....I need reconditioning.




Rock

Why are you so obsessed with being reconditioned? Throughout this thread that's all you talked about.

[Rock]

Yeah, I don't believe he's a disinfo agent either.  I don't agree with alot of what he says but that doesn't make him an agent.

So what makes an Agent?

Lets see if we can agree on something before I am tasered into the Utopian society.



Rock

[Pupil]

Joseph's mind is closed up so tight..he is an empirical science control freak.  He has all his ego invested in his theory.
Technology is not our savior.  Staying true to the dictates of our own soul: that is our salvation.

Well said!

I think AJ was intuitively shouting him down, knowing in his gut the guy is barking up a very wrong tree.  AJ doesn't intellectualize with guests, he shoots from the hip.  This guy seems like NWO light, but with no understanding of human nature.

Exactly - AJ's response was instictive, the very thing PJ was trying to say was almost inexistant. AJ refutes PJ's "self evidence" merely by being who he is!

[Pupil]

Why are you so obsessed with being reconditioned?

Because PJ stated that people who do not fit his world view need reconditioning.

[Rock]

Why are you so obsessed with being reconditioned? Throughout this thread that's all you talked about.

Thats his answer to his religion of Utopia.

Next



Rock

[InfoTruth]

Thats his answer to his religion of Utopia.

Next



Rock

He never called for a Utopia and you're also obsessed with being tasered. LMAO

[derek17]

Proof?  Just the fact he is against organized religion is proof.  That is an assult on my freedom.  Does a disinfo agent need credentials from a school?



Rock

I'm a Christian and I feel that it is Peter Josephs right to believe whatever he wants.  To believe otherwise would be an assult on his freedom.  

Credentials from a school?  What are you talking about?  I just think that calling him a disinfo agent is premature.  Remember when AJ basically called David Icke disinfo agent (turd in a punch bowl)?  I wonder how AJ feels about that statement now?  

[DCUBED]

So you would be Gentile with Bush in an interview with his known philosophy's?  Your a better man than me.  I guess what Peter said was right....I need reconditioning.

Rock

What do you mean by "gentile"?  Would I hold Bush in my arms and swing him back and forth? No.  I would conduct an interview with Bush like I would with anyone else. Now a confrontation is another thing.

[DCUBED]

Thats his answer to his religion of Utopia.

Next
Rock

Wrong. He clearly said it wasn't going to be a utopia.

[Rock]

I'm a Christian and I feel that it is Peter Josephs right to believe whatever he wants.  To believe otherwise would be an assult on his freedom.  

Credentials from a school?  What are you talking about?  I just think that calling him a disinfo agent is premature.  Remember when AJ basically called David Icke disinfo agent (turd in a punch bowl)?  I wonder how AJ feels about that statement now?  

Your opinion is noted.  As well as mine.  He is disinfo, and is leading good people to the slaughter in his faith based religion.


Rock

[noxium]

Because PJ stated that people who do not fit his world view need reconditioning.

He said that if someone was frozen and thawed out 1000 years later in that society that one of a few things would happen. They would either kill themselves, become completely defensive and shut out everything or have to be reconditioned mentally in order to deal with the new society that they are not used to. He never advocated the reconditioning. This is like a Mccain forum where everything is taken out of context lol.

[InfoTruth]

What do you mean by "gentile"?  Would I hold Bush in my arms and swing him back and forth? No.  I would conduct an interview with Bush like I would with anyone else. Now a confrontation is another thing.

Nooooo stop accusing Alex of being wrong!!! He's my idol and worship he's never wrong and I'll defend him till my death!

[InfoTruth]

Your opinion is noted.  As well as mine.  He is disinfo, and is leading good people to the slaughter in his faith based religion.


Rock

Wrong again. He doesn't believe in any faith based religion. Try again!

[Rock]

Nooooo stop accusing Alex of being wrong!!! He's my idol and worship he's never wrong and I'll defend him till my death!

I love your signature



Rock

[DCUBED]

So what makes an Agent?

Lets see if we can agree on something before I am tasered into the Utopian society.
Rock

There's many degrees with what an agent is. I don't see him as an agent. And Alex doesn't either. Being wrong or uninformed doesn't qualify someone as an agent.

[InfoTruth]

I love your signature



Rock

How can you love a quote by George Carlin who's probably in hell right now according to your bible?

[Rock]

Wrong again. He doesn't believe in any faith based religion. Try again!

Man are you snowed...LOL




Rock

[deconstructmyhouse]

according to your bible?

You wrote the bible Rock? Cool

[Rock]

How can you love a quote by George Carlin who's probably in hell right now according to your bible?

What Really Is Hell?

WHATEVER image the word “hell” brings to your mind, hell is generally thought of as a place of punishment for sin. Concerning sin and its effect, the Bible says: “Through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned.” (Romans 5:12) The Scriptures also state: “The wages sin pays is death.” (Romans 6:23) Since the punishment for sin is death, the fundamental question in determining the true nature of hell is: What happens to us when we die?

What happens to the spirit when a person dies? Psalm 146:4 says: “His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts do perish.” When a person dies, his impersonal spirit does not go on existing in another realm as a spirit creature. It “returns to the true God who gave it.” (Ecclesiastes 12:7) This means that any hope of future life for that person now rests entirely with God.

[Pupil]

He said that if someone was frozen and thawed out 1000 years later in that society that one of a few things would happen. They would either kill themselves, become completely defensive and shut out everything or have to be reconditioned mentally in order to deal with the new society that they are not used to. He never advocated the reconditioning. This is like a Mccain forum where everything is taken out of context lol.

That's right. My statement was not out of context whatsoever. If someone were to go to sleep now and wake up in PJ's realized ideal worldview, they would need "reconditioning."  Meaning that PJ's worldview is so out of touch with what feels normal to a human being, they would need to be rehabilitated.  

If PJ's worldview is so in tune with human nature, no reconditioning would be required. The sleeper would awaken and be in a world that was in tune with how he really worked, so he would be able to be at ease into it. PJ acknowledges that his ideal worldview is out of tune with reality by making the statement that we need reconditioning to fit into it.

Saying the sleeper would need "reconditioning" is dystopian at best, and tyrannical at worst.

[Pupil]

What Really Is Hell?

Hell, according to Alan Watt, comes from the Norse "Hella" which is our world, our plane of existance. When someone says "go to hell," you can accurately say that you are already there.

Just a tidbit that has nothing to do with anything else in this thread.

[derek17]

Your opinion is noted.  As well as mine.  He is disinfo, and is leading good people to the slaughter in his faith based religion.


Rock

Well then we will just have to agree to disagree on the disinfo topic.  I will agree with you in the fact that Peter's ideas are unrealistic and the details are not well thought out.  Example:  is food rationed?  If so, what if someone wants more that his ration calls for?  Could it lead to violence?  I think it could.    

[Geolibertarian]

The one question I most wanted Alex to ask Peter was: "Which Presidential candidate do you support?"

Why?

Because the answer to that question, IMHO, would have been the most revealing as to what Peter's true intentions are.

[donnay]

After listening again to the interview I have to say this guy is a pipe dreaming.  Stop the monetary policies?---does this guy really believes that these central banks are going to relinquish a monetary policy?   

The next phase is the cashless society control grid.


Ron Paul wanted to abolish the Federal Reserve and get us back to a gold standard and he got laughed at and blackballed by his own party and the control media. 

Our system is out of balance all because a small group conspired in 1913 to set a fractional monetary policy controlled by a corporation---this was all done by design.

[deconstructmyhouse]

If PJ's worldview is so in tune with human nature, no reconditioning would be required. The sleeper would awaken and be in a world that was in tune with how he really worked, so he would be able to be at ease into it. PJ acknowledges that his ideal worldview is out of tune with reality by making the statement that we need reconditioning to fit into it.

Saying the sleeper would need "reconditioning" is dystopian at best, and tyrannical at worst.

well put.  very well put.  I think I have such a knee jerk bad reaction to this guy (and don't mind AJ yellin at him) because i know his re conditiong, re education program would be exactly for people like me: a rebel at heart, ne'er do well, high functioning idiot who hates anybody telling me technology is more important than my soul.

Joseph is like a guy who designed some twisted machine and he doesn't want anybody touchin the plans...

[Rock]

Well then we will just have to agree to disagree on the disinfo topic.  I will agree with you in the fact that Peter's ideas are unrealistic and the details are not well thought out.  Example:  is food rationed?  If so, what if someone wants more that his ration calls for?  Could it lead to violence?  I think it could.    

Touche 



Rock

[kenischange]

That's right. My statement was not out of context whatsoever. If someone were to go to sleep now and wake up in PJ's realized ideal worldview, they would need "reconditioning."  Meaning that PJ's worldview is so out of touch with what feels normal to a human being, they would need to be rehabilitated.  

If PJ's worldview is so in tune with human nature, no reconditioning would be required. The sleeper would awaken and be in a world that was in tune with how he really worked, so he would be able to be at ease into it. PJ acknowledges that his ideal worldview is out of tune with reality by making the statement that we need reconditioning to fit into it.

Saying the sleeper would need "reconditioning" is dystopian at best, and tyrannical at worst.

AWESOME POINTS!

[InfoTruth]

The one question I most wanted Alex to ask Peter was: "Which Presidential candidate do you support?"

Why?

Because the answer to that question, IMHO, would have been the most revealing as to what Peter's true intentions are.

In Zeitgeist Addendum he shows clips of McCain and Obama being controlled by corporations. He also said that politicians cant fix the problems that we are facing.

[Rock]

PJ said...

Reconditioning after being frozen for 1000 years. 


I see I seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnzOJZWZJdA

Must be 18 to see.  Very graphic.

[deconstructmyhouse]

Hell, according to Alan Watt, comes from the Norse "Hella" which is our world, our plane of existance. When someone says "go to hell," you can accurately say that you are already there.

Just a tidbit that has nothing to do with anything else in this thread. Smiley

actually, Pupil, I think you've hit on the MAIN point.  This is the plane of suffering, and that's what we are here for; to work out our shit, to learn and to make mistakes...it's a journey towards love.  we keep making it, coming HERE because this is the plane of suffering, it's where the shit hits the fan.

Joseph wants a world where everything is perfectly reconditioned, solved: no good no evil.  Aint' gonna happen.  Methinks Joseph is actually a hedonist in secret. Wants a pleasurable life sans strife.

 Give me the old Garden of Good and Evil, let me duke it out like the warrior woman i was born to be.

[Geolibertarian]

What Really Is Hell?

"I used to think if I died in an evil place, then my soul wouldn't be able to make it to Heaven. But now, f--k! I mean, I don't care where it goes, as long as it ain't here." -- Chef (Frederic Forrest) in Apocalypse Now

[northoftheborder]

speak for yourself venus boy

I do.

P.S. Feck off with the venus boy shit

[Geolibertarian]

In Zeitgeist Addendum he shows clips of McCain and Obama being controlled by corporations. He also said that politicians cant fix the problems that we are facing.

I know, but I still wanted to hear it straight from the horse's mouth (so to speak), because I have a feeling that many of Obama's Kook-Aid drinkers are huge fans of Peter's work.

[InfoTruth]

I know, but I still wanted to hear it straight from the horse's mouth (so to speak), because I have a feeling that many of Obama's Kook-Aid drinkers are huge fans of Peter's work.

Really? I would think most Obama followers are against 9/11 truth,exposing religion and the federal reserve.