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« Reply #1320 on: October 16, 2008, 06:00:59 PM »

The question is... Do you feel comfortable about putting ZA on a DVD to give to strangers on a street corner? I don't. And with Z1 we only used pts 2 and 3 for this. A solution to this will arrive, because there is some good stuff in Z1 and ZA....

I'm very comfortable giving out both Zeitgeist and Zeitgeist Addendum, I'll let them make up their own mind.
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« Reply #1321 on: October 16, 2008, 06:08:30 PM »


Alex failed big time.  Barking like an animal does not compete with calm logical discourse.  Tossing childish insults and making fun of the way someone talks... pathetic.  The jealousy was thick.  And its so dumb because egomaniac Alex is the only one seeing it as a competition. 

Listening to AJ go into Bill O'Reilly mode was quite telling.  And a real disappointment.
I'll be signing up for the Zeitgeist movement.



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« Reply #1322 on: October 16, 2008, 06:15:52 PM »

I'm very comfortable giving out both Zeitgeist and Zeitgeist Addendum, I'll let them make up their own mind.

Really? Do you also give out marxist and communist and nazi literature and let them make up their own minds?
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« Reply #1323 on: October 16, 2008, 06:30:49 PM »

Really? Do you also give out marxist and communist and nazi literature and let them make up their own minds?

pimp!

that was hilarious.

But really, a nce compilation of the two would be cool without all the one world scientific technocratic saviour.
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« Reply #1324 on: October 16, 2008, 06:33:55 PM »

The Latest....just finished.the rest of my links are at www.myspace.com/djball1

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Damn, like the loaves and the fishes (aww shit, this reference will probably feed left/right trolls to exploit, but who cares).  Thanks dude!
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« Reply #1325 on: October 16, 2008, 06:41:49 PM »

Ha!

you can see them coming from a mile away thanks to Rock's super awesome Talking Points Memo.
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« Reply #1326 on: October 16, 2008, 06:46:27 PM »

you can see them coming from a mile away thanks to Rock's super awesome Talking Points Memo.

I didn't get the memo...
Is that because I'm with the terrorists?

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« Reply #1327 on: October 16, 2008, 06:49:40 PM »

I didn't get the memo...
Is that because I'm with the terrorists?

 Cry



another fine talking point thanks.

have you even read this thread?

did you even listen to the interview?

if so, please explain which sentences you found most troubling.

thanks
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« Reply #1328 on: October 16, 2008, 06:51:36 PM »

Here is a link to some interesting info on Jiddu Krishnamurti. 

http://www.age-of-the-sage.org/theosophy/krishnamurti.html
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« Reply #1329 on: October 16, 2008, 06:55:03 PM »

Here is a link to some interesting info on Jiddu Krishnamurti. 

http://www.age-of-the-sage.org/theosophy/krishnamurti.html

Check out how the KGBused these guys for recruiting celebrities to assist in NWO/UN/socialist goals...

Soviet Deception: Demoralization of the West

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=915448763957391352
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« Reply #1330 on: October 16, 2008, 06:58:55 PM »

Check out how the KGBused these guys for recruiting celebrities to assist in NWO/UN/socialist goals...

Soviet Deception: Demoralization of the West

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=915448763957391352

Thanks for the link.  Here is an interesting paragraph from Wikapedia.

Krishnamurti had denounced all organized belief, the notion of gurus, and the whole teacher-follower relationship, vowing instead to work in setting man absolutely, totally free. Mary Lutyens notes that he never actually denied being the World Teacher; when asked, he insisted that the question was irrelevant. In correspondence with Lady Emily Lutyens, who was distressed over the ending of the Order and its World Teacher Project, he remarked: "You know mum I have never denied it [being the World Teacher], I have only said it does not matter who or what I am but that they should examine what I say, which does not mean that I have denied being the W.T." When a reporter asked him if he was the Christ, he answered "Yes, in the pure sense but not in the traditional accepted sense of the word." [59]

^ M. Lutyens, The Life and Death of Krishnamurti, London: John Murray 1990, p 83.
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« Reply #1331 on: October 16, 2008, 07:03:37 PM »

OMFG, dude we already exposed this Rovian talking point like 3 pages ago.

OMFG, dude he can post what he likes
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« Reply #1332 on: October 16, 2008, 07:08:00 PM »

Resource management...what an incredible original concept!  Brilliant, the elites should take note.  Oh wait, they actually invented it:

1973 - TC [R01] - Towards a renovated world monetary system
http://www.scribd.com/word/download/284896?extension=pdf

Zbigniew Brzezinski Grand Chess Board
http://www.scribd.com/word/download/427493?extension=pdf

Antony Sutton - Trilaterals Over America
http://www.scribd.com/word/download/274441?extension=pdf

1981 - US LoC - Research of Trilateral commision Documents
http://www.scribd.com/word/download/202901?extension=pdf

Trilateral Commission: 1975 - TC - The Crisis of Democracy
http://www.scribd.com/word/download/194192?extension=pdf

CFR - Differentiated Containment
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1974 - TC [R02] - The Crisis of International Cooperation 1974
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Jim Marrs - Rule by Secrecy - The Hidden History
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CFR - Russia's Wrong Direction and What The US Needs To Do 2006
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The Shape of Things to Come


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Table of Contents
Introduction
The Dream Book of Dr. Philip Raven


Book the First
Today and Tomorrow: The Age of Frustration Dawns
A Chronological Note
How the Idea and Hope of the Modern World State First Appeared
The Accumulating Disproportions of the Old Order
Early Attempts to Understand and Deal with These Disproportions; The Criticisms of Karl Marx and Henry George
The Way in Which Competition and Monetary Inefficiency Strained the Old Order
The Paradox of Over-Production and Its Relation to War
The Great War of 1914-1918
The Impulse to Abolish War; The Episode of the Ford Peace Ship
The Direct Action of the Armament Industries in Maintaining War Stresses
Versailles: Seed Bed of Disasters
The Impulse to Abolish War: Why the League of Nations Failed
The Breakdown of “Finance” and Social Morale after Versailles
1933: “Progress” Comes to a Halt

Book the Second
The Days After Tomorrow: The Age of Frustration
The London Conference: the Crowning Failure of the Old Governments; The Spread of Dictatorships and Fascisms
The Sloughing of the Old Educational Tradition
Disintegration and Crystallization in the Social Magma. The Gangster and Militant Political Organizations
Changes in War Practice after the World War
The Fading Vision of a World Pax: Japan Reverts to Warfare
The Western Grip on Asia Relaxes
The Modern State and Germany
A Note on Hate and Cruelty
The Last War Cyclone, 1940-50
The Raid of the Germs
Europe in 1960
America in Liquidation

Book the Third
The World Renascence: The Birth of the Modern State
The Plan of the Modern State Is Worked Out
Thought and Action: the New Model of Revolution
The Technical Revolutionary
Prophets, Pioneers, Fanatics and Murdered Men
The First Conference at Basra: 1965
The Growth of Resistance to the Sea and Air Ways Control
Intellectual Antagonism to the Modern State
The Second Conference at Basra, 1978
“Three Courses of Action”
The Life-Time Plan
The Real Struggle for Government Begins

Book the Fourth
The Modern State Militant
Gap in the Text
Melodramatic Interlude
Futile Insurrection
The Schooling of Mankind
The Text Resumes: The Tyranny of the Second Council
Ćsthetic Frustration: The Note Books of Ariston Theotocopulos
The Declaration of Mégčve

Book the Fifth
The Modern State in Control of Life
Monday Morning in the Creation of a New World
Keying Up the Planet
Geogonic Planning
Changes in the Control of Behaviour
Organization of Plenty
The Average Man Grows Older and Wiser
Language and Mental Growth
Sublimation of Interest
A New Phase in the History of Life
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« Reply #1333 on: October 16, 2008, 07:11:28 PM »

lol, just hearing Jones Thursday show - He's totally woken to the PJ bull and gone 180 degrees

All PJ lovers, Alex officially has deemed Z, nwo bull crap.

You wanna talk about division, you got it from Jones on the matter.

Onya Alex E Jones  Cheesy
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« Reply #1334 on: October 16, 2008, 07:16:25 PM »

The Secret Doctrine, the Synthesis of Science, Religion and Philosophy
1888-Helena P. Blavatsky's magnum opus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_Doctrine
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« Reply #1335 on: October 16, 2008, 07:22:54 PM »

The Secret Doctrine, the Synthesis of Science, Religion and Philosophy
1888-Helena P. Blavatsky's magnum opus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_Doctrine

Volume One

The first part of the book explained the origin and evolution of the universe itself, in terms derived from the Hindu concept of cyclical development. The world and everything in it is supposed to alternate between periods of activity (manvanataras) and periods of passivity (pralayas). Each manvantara lasts many millions of years and consists of a number of Yugas, in accordansce with Hindu traditions.

Blavatsky attempted to demonstrate that the discoveries of "materialist" science had been anticipated in the writings of ancient sages, and that materialism would soon be proven wrong.

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Volume Two

The second half of the book describes the origins of humanity through an account of "Root Races" dating back millions of years. The first root race was, according to her, "ethereal", the second root had more physical bodies and lived in Hyperborea. The third root race, the first to be truly human, existed on the lost continent of Lemuria and the fourth root race developed in Atlantis.

According to Blavatsky, the present fifth root race is approximately one million years old. It overlapped the fourth root race and the very first beginnings of the fifth root race were approximately in the middle of the fourth root race.

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Volumes Three and Four

Blavatsky wanted to publish a third and fourth volume of The Secret Doctrine. After Blavatsky's death, a controversial third volume of The Secret Doctrine was published by Annie Besant.

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Racial theories

In the second volume of The Secret Doctrine, dedicated to anthroprogenesis, Blavatsky presents a theory of the gradual evolution of physical humanity over a timespan of millions of years.

The steps in this evolution are called rootraces, seven in all. Current humanity mainly consists of the fifth such rootrace. Earlier rootraces have exhibites completely different characteristics: physical bodies first appearing in the second rootrace and sexual characteristics in the third.

The designation aryans appears as a subgroup of the fifth rootrace, which comprises the vast majority of present humanity[citation needed].

Some detractors have emphasized passages and footnotes that claim some peoples to be less fully human or spiritual than the "Aryans". For example,
"The intellectual difference between the Aryan and other civilized nations and such savages as the South Sea Islanders, is inexplicable on any other grounds. No amount of culture, nor generations of training amid civilization, could raise such human specimens as the Bushmen, the Veddhas of Ceylon, and some African tribes, to the same intellectual level as the Aryans, the Semites, and the Turanians so called. The 'sacred spark' is missing in them and it is they who are the only inferior races on the globe, now happily -- owing to the wise adjustment of nature which ever works in that direction -- fast dying out. Verily mankind is 'of one blood,' but not of the same essence. We are the hot-house, artificially quickened plants in nature, having in us a spark, which in them is latent" (The Secret Doctrine, Vol. 2, p 421).

When discussing "sterility between two human races" as observed by Darwin, Blavatsky notes:
"Of such semi-animal creatures, the sole remnants known to Ethnology were the Tasmanians, a portion of the Australians and a mountain tribe in China, the men and women of which are entirely covered with hair. They were the last descendants in a direct line of the semi-animal latter-day Lemurians referred to. There are, however, considerable numbers of the mixed Lemuro-Atlantean peoples produced by various crossings with such semi-human stocks -- e.g., the wild men of Borneo, the Veddhas of Ceylon, classed by Prof. Flower among Aryans (!), most of the remaining Australians, Bushmen, Negritos, Andaman Islanders, etc" (The Secret Doctrine, Vol. 2, pp 195-6).

Blavatsky also asserts that "the occult doctrine admits of no such divisions as the Aryan and the Semite, accepting even the Turanian with ample reservations. Semites, especially the Arabs, are later Aryans — degenerate in spirituality and perfected in materiality" (The Secret Doctrine, Vol. 2, p 200). She also connects physical race with spiritual attributes constantly throughout her works:
"Esoteric history teaches that idols and their worship died out with the Fourth Race, until the survivors of the hybrid races of the latter (Chinamen, African negroes, &c.) gradually brought the worship back. The Vedas countenance no idols; all the modern Hindu writings do" (The Secret Doctrine, Vol. 2, p 723).

According to Blavatsky, "The MONADS of the lowest specimens of humanity (the "narrow-brained" savage South-Sea Islander, the African, the Australian) had no Karma to work out when first born as men, as their more favoured brethren in intelligence had" (The Secret Doctrine, Vol. 2, p 168).

She also prophesies of the destruction of the racial "failures of nature" as the "higher race" ascends:
"Thus will mankind, race after race, perform its appointed cycle-pilgrimage. Climates will, and have already begun, to change, each tropical year after the other dropping one sub-race, but only to beget another higher race on the ascending cycle; while a series of other less favoured groups -- the failures of nature -- will, like some individual men, vanish from the human family without even leaving a trace behind" (The Secret Doctrine, Vol. 2, p 446).

While these assertions have been criticized, other extracts from her writings show her strong belief in an Universal Brotherhood of humanity. In The Key to Theosophy she wrote that "All men have spiritually and physically the same origin, which is the fundamental teaching of Theosophy" and that "mankind is essentially of one and the same essence."

One of the objects of her Theosophical Society is "To form the nucleus of a Universal Brotherhood of Humanity without distinction of race, color, or creed." She also spoke out against European slave trade in Africa (Key to Theosophy 3), the Caste System (SD I:270) and often laid stress on "kindness, absence of every ill feeling or selfishness, charity, goodwill to all beings, and perfect justice to others as to one's self" (The First Message of HPB). In The Secret Doctrine, Blavatsky states: "Verily mankind is 'of one blood,' but not of the same essence."

In Isis Unveiled, published eleven years before The Secret Doctrine, Blavatsky gave an account of why "white men" were "almost incapable of magic":
"Magic being what it is, the most difficult of all sciences to learn experimentally -- its acquisition is practically beyond the reach of the majority of white-skinned people; and that, whether their effort is made at home or in the East. Probably not more than one man in a million of European blood is fitted -- either physically, morally, or psychologically -- to become a practical magician, and not one in ten millions would be found endowed with all these three qualifications as required for the work. Civilized nations lack the phenomenal powers of endurance, both mental and physical, of the Easterns; the favoring temperamental idiosyncrasies of the Orientals are utterly wanting in them. In the Hindu, the Arabian, the Thibetan, an intuitive perception of the possibilities of occult natural forces in subjection to human will, comes by inheritance; and in them, the physical senses as well as the spiritual are far more finely developed than in the Western races. Notwithstanding the notable difference of thickness between the skulls of a European and a Southern Hindu, this difference, being a purely climatic result, due to the intensity of the sun's rays, involves no psychological principles. Furthermore, there would be tremendous difficulties in the way of training, if we can so express it. Contaminated by centuries of dogmatic superstition, by an ineradicable -- though quite unwarranted -- sense of superiority over those whom the English term so contemptuously 'niggers,' the white European would hardly submit himself to the practical tuition of either Kopt, Brahman, or Lama" (Isis Unveiled, Vol. 2, pp 635-6).

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Study of the Secret Doctrine

According to P.G.B. Bowen, Blavatsky gave the following instructions regarding the study of the Secret Doctrine:

Reading the S.D. page by page as one reads any other book (she says) will only end us in confusion. The first thing to do, even if it takes years, is to get some grasp of the "Three Fundamental Principles" given in the Proem. Follow that up by study of the Recapitulation - the numbered items in the Summing Up to Vol. I (Part 1.) Then take the Preliminary Notes (Vol. II) and the Conclusion (Vol. II).

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Writings about "The Secret Doctrine"
Alice Bailey wrote about the Secret Doctrine: But those of us who really studied it and arrived at some understanding of its inner significance have a basic appreciation of the truth that no other book seems to supply. H.P.B. said that the next interpretation of the Ageless Wisdom would be a psychological approach, and A Treatise on Cosmic Fire, which I published in 1925, is the psychological key to The Secret Doctrine. None of my books would have been possible had I not at one time made a very close study of The Secret Doctrine.
Blavatsky and The Secret Doctrine by Max Heindel (1933; from Max Heindel writings & with introduction by Manly Palmer Hall): THE SECRET DOCTRINE is one of the most remarkable books in the world... Behind her [H.P.B.] stood the real teachers, the guardians of the Secret Wisdom of the ages, who taught her all the occult lore which she transmitted in her writings.

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References
The Secret Doctrine, by HP Blavatsky
The Secret Doctrine and Its Study by P.G.B. Bowen
The Key to Theosophy, by HP Blavatsky
The First Message of HP Blavatsky. To WQ Judge, General Secretary of the American Section of the Theosophical Society. 1888.

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See also
Book of Dzyan
Mahatma Letters
New Age Spirituality
Round (Theosophy)
Theosophy

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External links
The Secret Doctrine, Vol. 1 and Vol.2 Online Version
The third volume of the Secret Doctrine
The Secret Doctrine Net
The Secret Doctrine at Blavatsky.Net
The Book of Dzyan Research Reports by David Reigle
Blavatsky and The Secret Doctrine by Max Heindel with an Introduction by Manly Palmer Hall, little essay on H.P. Blavatsky and "The Secret Doctrine" published in 1933
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« Reply #1336 on: October 16, 2008, 07:26:36 PM »

The Secret Doctrine, the Synthesis of Science, Religion and Philosophy
1888-Helena P. Blavatsky's magnum opus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_Doctrine

Before reading The Secret Doctrine books I would highly suggest reading her earlier work titled "Isis Unveiled".
The latter is a master key to understanding much of the content in the former.

It's free to read online here:
http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/isis/iu-hp.htm
But if that kills your eyes as its two pretty thick volumes, they are in print and easy to get. I ordered mine at Amazon.

They explain with much depth into what we are dealing with.

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« Reply #1337 on: October 16, 2008, 07:32:16 PM »

Thanks Double and Sane.  Great sources to start with. 
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« Reply #1338 on: October 16, 2008, 07:32:34 PM »

Before reading The Secret Doctrine books I would highly suggest reading her earlier work titled "Isis Unveiled".
The latter is a master key to understanding much of the content in the former.

It's free to read online here:
http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/isis/iu-hp.htm
But if that kills your eyes as its two pretty thick volumes, they are in print and easy to get. I ordered mine at Amazon.

They explain with much depth into what we are dealing with.



excellent suggestion, so you have read this material and admit that Zeitgeist is indeed part of the plan for a Blavatsky New WOrld Order, or is it just that you happen to know about these two coicidentally similar futurist visions?

BTW for the uninitiated, this is all satanic occultist mind bending insanity.  But it is important to understand that Z fits nicely into the "order of things to come"

And the best way out of this satanic agenda is to promote indivual freedom rather then central control structures. The best way out of the NWO is to expose all of its insanity as outlined in these books, HG Wells, and all the CFR/UN docs.

But of course, there is no conspiracy.
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« Reply #1339 on: October 16, 2008, 07:39:41 PM »

Before reading The Secret Doctrine books I would highly suggest reading her earlier work titled "Isis Unveiled".
The latter is a master key to understanding much of the content in the former.

It's free to read online here:
http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/isis/iu-hp.htm
But if that kills your eyes as its two pretty thick volumes, they are in print and easy to get. I ordered mine at Amazon.

They explain with much depth into what we are dealing with.



Just ordered this book.  I found it new for $9 and some change.  A good website to search for books is http://www.dealoz.com/.  It searches hundreds of different stores and sorts by price. 
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« Reply #1340 on: October 16, 2008, 07:40:58 PM »

My sentiments exactly.

I just read all of this thread i missed at work and got say its so funny how the 'fanboys' all but disappeared after Rock exposed their talking points. I pointed that out around lunchtime too, back around page 8 or 9 that i noticed the abundance of newbs going to the mat for PJ. LOL. They were the majority when i was on here earlier. I guess the critters run when you shine the light on them. Grin
Those who disagree with Alex are not "Fanboys". I know it is a nice feeling to club up and bash others but to disagree is healthy.

As to the talking points by Rock, those are based on what? Based on anyone who disagrees with the way Alex conducted the interview? This is looking more and more like a Fox news forum or a Barack Obama forum, take your pick. I have been on this forum longer than most here, do not let the post count fool you.

It is apparent that no one's mind will be changed on an internet forum, so for some it becomes tiring to sit and spit sh!t at each other for hours upon hours. Only people who are in fear of losing something (maybe their own mind) would devote so much attention to this type of circular argument.

Call me a troll, or an idiot or any other ad hominem attack like some have called the others who have the same opinions but that leads this movement down the toilet and deep down most of you know it.
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« Reply #1341 on: October 16, 2008, 07:44:19 PM »

Those who disagree with Alex are not "Fanboys". I know it is a nice feeling to club up and bash others but to disagree is healthy.

As to the talking points by Rock, those are based on what? Based on anyone who disagrees with the way Alex conducted the interview? This is looking more and more like a Fox news forum or a Barack Obama forum, take your pick. I have been on this forum longer than most here, do not let the post count fool you.

It is apparent that no one's mind will be changed on an internet forum, so for some it becomes tiring to sit and spit sh!t at each other for hours upon hours. Only people who are in fear of losing something (maybe their own mind) would devote so much attention to this type of circular argument.

Call me a troll, or an idiot or any other ad hominem attack like some have called the others who have the same opinions but that leads this movement down the toilet and deep down most of you know it.

I can respect that opinion and value your thoughts on the matter.

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excellent suggestion, so you have read this material and admit that Zeitgeist is indeed part of the plan for a Blavatsky New WOrld Order, or is it just that you happen to know about these two coicidentally similar futurist visions?

I first started reading The Secret Doctrines and found myself completely lost about 4 chapters in.
So I picked up the Isis series have since read it,
and will be starting The Secret Doctrines again as soon as I get a few other books out of the way.
So my reply is not based on The Secret Doctrines. But I do know now that I will understand it much better.

I never made the connection with Z and the Blavatsky writings.
I found the two quite different and the thought crossed my mind that Peter really should read the Blavatsky works because I'm positive he has not.
Z borders on Atheist teachings where as Blavatsky writings are based from some ancient source that pretty much
every exoteric and esoteric religion and other dogmas is based on. She proves this point very well.

I've read as much texts as I found on the esoteric religions such as the Rosicrucians, the Masons, the A.'. A.'., ect, they are all
different methods that teach the same thing in the end.
Although I refuse to join any so I can only speak for the writings that are out there.


I pile Z in with the new age movement if anything.
The thing that bothers me most about the New Age movements and Z is that there not new at all,
they are merely a tiny little speck of the ancient mysteries (And Z maybe not even that) that has been hidden and used by the PTB to control us.



 





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« Reply #1343 on: October 16, 2008, 07:57:41 PM »

I was just on Jordan Maxwell's site and it seems he has removed the big Zeitgeist link that had been on the main page for a while.  I wonder if the new Zeitgeist caused this reaction, or it is just a coincidence?

I did find a one line reference of Zeitgeist under the "other videos featuring Jordan Maxwell." 
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Study Reveals Pittsburgh Unprepared For Full-Scale Zombie Attack

PITTSBURGH—A zombie-preparedness study, commissioned by Pittsburgh Mayor Tom Murphy and released Monday, indicates that the city could easily succumb to a devastating zombie attack. Insufficient emergency-management-personnel training and poorly conceived undead-defense measures have left the city at great risk for all-out destruction at the hands of the living dead, according to the Zombie Preparedness Institute.

Pittsburgh, a prime target of the undead.
"When it comes to defending ourselves against an army of reanimated human corpses, the officials in charge have fallen asleep at the wheel," Murphy said. "Who's in charge of sweep-and-burn missions to clear out infected areas? Who's going to guard the cemeteries at night? If zombies were to arrive in the city tomorrow, we'd all be roaming the earth in search of human brains by Friday."

Government-conducted zombie-attack scenarios described on the State Department's website indicate that a successful, citywide zombie takeover would take 10 days, but according to ZPI statistician Dr. Milton Cornelius, the government's models fail to incorporate such factors as the zombies' rudimentary reasoning skills and basic tool use.

"Today's zombies quickly learn to open doors, break windows, and stage ambushes," Cornelius said. "In one 1985 incident in Louisville, a band of zombies was able to lure four paramedics and countless law-enforcement officials to their deaths by commandeering an ambulance radio and calling for backup."

ZPI researchers noted that tens of thousands of Pittsburgh citizens live in close proximity to a cemetery. This fact, coupled with abnormally high space-radiation levels in eastern Pennsylvania and ongoing traffic issues in the East Hills and Larimer areas, led Cornelius to declare the likelihood of a successful evacuation as "slight to impossible."

"The designated evacuation routes would be hopelessly clogged, leaving many no choice but to escape by foot," Cornelius said. "Add a single lurching zombie into that easily panicked crowd and you've got a nightmare scenario."

Cornelius' model shows that after the ensuing stampede, "the zombie could pick and choose his victims," and predicts the creation of hundreds of new undead "in a single half-hour feeding frenzy."

Pittsburgh's structural defenses are particularly inadequate. The city's emergency safe houses, established by a city ordinance in the early '70s, lack even the most basic fortifications for zombie invasion.

Pittsburgh residents participate in a zombie-preparedness training exercise in 1998.
"Under the ordinance, wooden tool sheds and rusty station wagons are classified as adequate shelter," Cornelius said. "But once dozens of zombies hungering for living flesh begin pounding on the walls and driving their half-decomposed fists through the windows, sheds and cars quickly give way."

Federal Undead Management Agency spokesperson Dr. Sheena Aurora downplayed the ZPI report, arguing that zombies move slowly and can be easily overpowered. Aurora advised citizens to look over their shoulders frequently, adding that a large shopping mall can serve as a "long-term, even fun" refuge from zombies.

Such assertions alarm zombiologist Olivier Baptiste, who calls FUMA's information "hopelessly outdated."

"Dr. Aurora's claims are based on decades-old zombie models," Baptiste said. "Widely released evidence from recent years clearly shows that zombies can run just as fast, if not faster, than a living human."

Added Baptiste: "That FUMA trains its field agents to shoot zombies in the torso, rather than the head, demonstrates just how out of touch the government is."

Evans City, PA Police Chief Gino Fulci said zombie preparedness comes down to training on the local level.

"Children need to be taught from preschool that they might have to put a bullet between the eyes of their own undead mother," Fulci said. "'Destroy The Brain' banners should be hung above the entrances of schools, churches, and town halls everywhere."

Cornelius recommends that Pittsburgh residents prepare a "go-bag" containing a Glock 17 pistol and 50 rounds of ammunition. If leaving the house is not an option, Cornelius advises residents to barricade all first-story doors and windows, and have at least one method of suicide prepared, should zombies successfully breach the home.

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Just ordered this book.  I found it new for $9 and some change.  A good website to search for books is http://www.dealoz.com/.  It searches hundreds of different stores and sorts by price. 

Hey great deal man.
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« Reply #1346 on: October 16, 2008, 08:02:26 PM »

Those who disagree with Alex are not "Fanboys". I know it is a nice feeling to club up and bash others but to disagree is healthy.

As to the talking points by Rock, those are based on what? Based on anyone who disagrees with the way Alex conducted the interview? This is looking more and more like a Fox news forum or a Barack Obama forum, take your pick. I have been on this forum longer than most here, do not let the post count fool you.

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Call me a troll, or an idiot or any other ad hominem attack like some have called the others who have the same opinions but that leads this movement down the toilet and deep down most of you know it.

I am just curious. When you refer to "this movement", what movement are you referring to? I suspect, as do others I believe, that we are not talking about the same single movement. Peter J. quite clearly speaks as though the NWO/globalist agenda stuff is not of concern to him. Why is that? What is YOUR movement?
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« Reply #1347 on: October 16, 2008, 08:08:15 PM »

Live Every Day As If You're Dying Of A Contagious Disease That Turns People You Bite Into Zombies

By Ed Yeems

Wake up, people! Life is not a spectator sport. It could all end tomorrow, and there are no second chances, unless of course you're bitten by someone like me.

On the day my father passed away, I promised myself I'd live my life as though my bite transformed my victims into zombies. My dad was a good man, to be sure, but a simple man as well—the sort of guy who worked hard, never asked for more than he deserved, and never wondered what it would be like to transform people into the living dead with a single bite. Of course, he always got the short end of the stick.

He was never really happy, and I remember asking myself, at a very young age, how his life would have been different if he'd behaved as if his appetites could provide him with an army of the living dead.

It's certainly changed almost everything about my life—the way I look at people, the way I treat them, the way I bite them, hard, and then begin screaming, "Aha! I've turned yet another person into a relentless shuffling zombie! Soon my mindless hordes shall hold dominion over the entire world!"

I can honestly say that nothing's been the same since I had this insight. The words "invigorating" and "exhilarating" don't even begin to cover it.

I used to dread getting up in the morning. I wasn't much more than a mindless half-dead thing myself! But ever since I decided to stop being a zombie and start making zombies, I've begun every day with a smile.

My dark joy at commanding an army of flesh-eating undead is, of course, balanced by the knowledge that this dark gift will kill me. That knowledge forces me to take a rather poignant and bittersweet view of life. I enjoy my coffee more than I ever have before, drinking it as if it may be my last, checking the barricades on my windows and doors, biting my wife to turn her into a zombie who will now be powerless to resist my will. And just like that, I'm off to work, wide-awake, energized, and ready to go!

All my coworkers have noted the change in me. After all, if living as if I'm dying slowly from a contagious disease that turns the people I bite into flesh-eating zombies has done one thing, it's really taught me who my friends are. Once I bit our office IT guy Lowell every day for three straight weeks, turning a reticent cube drone into both a confidant and a ravenous monster that exists only to consume the flesh of the living. When I told Lowell about my contagious and fatal imaginary disease, he was intrigued. Although he's a ways from taking the bull by the horns and creating a few flesh-eaters of his own, he's treated me with a quiet respect ever since.

You'll get a lot of that if you decide to follow my path of living every day as if you're dying of a contagious disease that turns people you bite into zombies. It can be a lonely path, and as you see, it's not easy to explain exactly what you're doing and why. But it will, I promise, totally realign your world. Once you decide to seize the living and sink your teeth into their flesh and condemn them to a tortured eternity, nothing will be the same—nights at the movies, trips to the mall, air travel, nothing. And once you realize that those you bite will turn into zombies obsessed with your death and the rending of your flesh, every day will seem like a gift.

Remember, your death is inevitable—therefore, why not enjoy the limited time you have alive by enjoying all the zombies you've spawned? And above all, remember this: They can only be killed by head shots.
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« Reply #1348 on: October 16, 2008, 08:09:48 PM »

Hey great deal man.
Enjoy the books they are a tough read, but for me very rewarding.

I think I just ordered volume 1, but that will be fine to start with. 
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« Reply #1349 on: October 16, 2008, 08:15:01 PM »

This is my first post on these forums.  I usually sit back and read what different people's opinions are on the numerous topics that come up from day to day.  But I wanna just say a couple things.

I've seen both of the Zeitgeist movies, and liked them both of them mostly.  I'm aware in the latest movie to come out, near the end, it calls for the world uniting as one and using technology for unlimited energy and freeing up people from doing jobs that are repetitious allowing those people to do other constructive things.  And so many of you people on this forum immediately say: NWO propaganda, Illuminati, Communist, etc, etc.  

I just can't agree with you people.  

Since when is combining together as one instead of being divided up as many good?  

If you want to get rid of the people who are controlling the world, how are you going to do that in a bunch of different groups that don't support each other?

Is your plan to divide up, separate, and work against each other....and then spread the word about it?

Or lets just forget about the whole NWO thing just for a hypothetical situation:  If you want to make the world a better place, eliminate hunger, in-fighting, poverty, and big governments.....well then, how are you going to do that if the whole world is divided up into almost 200 different teams (countries)?

Oh boy am I awaiting the responses....(and i didn't even get into religion)
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« Reply #1351 on: October 16, 2008, 08:19:39 PM »

Don't you guys get it yet? WE are the zombies. They have been turning us to zombies for a long time with their flouride and their poisoned foods and their mind numbing entertainment on your Big Screen HD tv that you had to save up for a long time or were foolish enough to get one on credit at BestBuy!!! And they make YOU pay out the butt to brainwash and reprogram YOURSELF!!!

I know, I fell into that trap.
God, what a waste of time and money.
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« Reply #1352 on: October 16, 2008, 08:23:05 PM »

Neighborhood Children Gear Up For Hotly Anticipated 'Opening Of The Gerbil's Tomb'

COVINGTON, KY–In what promises to be the biggest neighborhood event since July's golf-ball dismantling, Andy Mefford, 9, announced plans Monday to exhume Marshall, his sister's deceased pet gerbil.


The soon-to-be-disturbed burial site.

"Guys," said Mefford, addressing fellow fourth-graders from the jungle gym during recess, "this Saturday morning, right after Batman Beyond, I'm gonna dig up Marshall to see what he looks like now."

Marshall, who died June 24 of complications from an eye infection, was laid to rest the following day beneath the large oak tree in the Meffords' backyard. The gerbil was entombed in a styrofoam hamburger container, along with a daisy and a poem written by its devoted owner, 7-year-old Kimberly Mefford.

Mefford's decision to exhume the rodent, made partly in response to a recent Learning Channel Secrets Of The Pyramids documentary, has sparked excitement among children throughout the Reardon Street area.

"That's gonna be so cool," said classmate Danny Stossel. "I bet it's all gross, with worms crawling out of his eyes and stuff."

"My brother once dug up a parakeet after it was buried for, like, three weeks, and it was all black and hard," next-door neighbor Douglas Beane, 10, said. "This'll probably be even better."

Added Beane: "I wonder if the tail will still be there."

Despite such enthusiasm, not all neighborhood children support the gerbil exhumation.

"You can't dig somebody up after you bury them," said Amy Coryell, 7, who will not attend the dig. "That disturbs their spirit, and then you can get haunted by the dead ghost, I bet."


Mefford (center) and some of the children who plan to attend Saturday's gerbil exhumation.

Speculation regarding the contents of the Marshall gravesite is running high, with guesses ranging from a gerbil skeleton to a gerbil zombie. The latter theory was posited by Bradley Dorner, 9, who has been fixated by death and zombification since an Sept. 15 viewing of Return Of The Living Dead on cable TV while his parents were out at a play.

"Seriously, there are these zombies, and they're dead bodies, and they come back to life and try to eat your brains," a visibly agitated Dorner told Mefford upon learning of the plan. "Including animals. I saw it."

Unbowed by the prospect of attacks by the undead, Mefford reiterated his intention to open the styrofoam crypt. As a concession to those concerned about zombies, however, basic precautions against the undead will be taken, including the presence of garlic, a cross, and a Bible. In addition, a large shovel will be kept nearby for the purpose of hitting Marshall if he moves posthumously in any way.

As an added measure, all children who plan to attend the ceremony have been sworn to strict secrecy by Mefford.

"My mom is gonna take my sister to dance lessons at 11, and my dad never gets up before noon on Saturdays, so we have to do it between 11 and 12," Mefford told his jungle-gym audience. "But nobody tell anybody, or we'll get busted, okay?"

Mefford warned potential security threats that compromising the secrecy of the event by tipping off neighborhood adults or engaging in any other form of "telling" would result in their being barred from all future Mefford-sponsored events, including street-hockey games and secret-fort meetings. In addition, tattle-tales would be subject to revocation of treehouse-hideout privileges for one year.


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« Reply #1353 on: October 16, 2008, 08:25:29 PM »

Don't you guys get it yet? WE are the zombies. They have been turning us to zombies for a long time with their flouride and their poisoned foods and their mind numbing entertainment on your Big Screen HD tv that you had to save up for a long time or were foolish enough to get one on credit at BestBuy!!! And they make YOU pay out the butt to brainwash and reprogram YOURSELF!!!

I know, I fell into that trap.
God, what a waste of time and money.

Im sorry you apparently don't get it. You need to prepare now.

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Local police reported that the supposed meteorite made a hole 6 meters (19 feet) deep and 30 meters (98 feet) wide.
 
(LIP-ir) -- Peru's Andina News Agency reported today that Puno's Regional Health Directorate sent a group of specialists to the Carancas community in the province of Chucuito near Bolivia to take samples of a meteorite that supposedly landed in the area.

Jorge López Tejada, a representative for the institution, stated that an environmental cleaning crew was going to the area to take earth and water samples from the actual landing site and from surrounding areas.

"The samples will be tested in Lima, where the necessary equipment is available. We hope that results will be ready within 7days," said Jorge López Tejada.

In addition, Tejada stated that a health brigade, consisting of doctors and nurses would be sent to the landing site to aid people that had reported health problems after having gotten close to the supposed meteorite.

"Between 10 and 12 people have reported dizziness, migraines and in some cases vomiting. They assure that after having had close contact with the object the symptoms began," stated Tejada.

Furthermore, Tejada stated that check ups would be performed and that it had not been discarded that the symptoms could be related to the glowing object which fell from the sky. "They are healthy people, it could be (due to) radiation, we don't know, we are assuming, it's worth investigating. Things will be clearer tomorrow," stated Tejada.

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« Reply #1354 on: October 16, 2008, 08:32:07 PM »

Im sorry you apparently don't get it. You need to prepare now. 

I would rather fight zombies than fight with my brothers, that's for sure.
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« Reply #1355 on: October 16, 2008, 08:34:49 PM »

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They were someones brother at one time. Make sure you have a bat with your bugout bag.
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« Reply #1356 on: October 16, 2008, 08:37:26 PM »

From INFOWARS:

Following Alex's discussion with Zeitgeist producer Peter Joseph, our question today is: Considering the limitations of human nature and societal conditioning, is a Utopian society achievable?

    * No (76%, 2,301 Votes)
    * Yes (24%, 724 Votes)

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There shouldn't be a person here that wouldn't want to live in a Utopian, resource based society where everyone lives communal harmony and does things out of sheer love of humanity and the promotion of the species.It would be great to live like that, and follow the teachings of Christ weather you are religious or not. But common sense tells you and the reality is, that humans are inherently evil. A product of their genetic being. And no matter what system humans are in there is always going to be someone trying to manipulate that system for their own benefit. That was the major difference between Alex and Joseph. And obviously the majority believe the same way. Joseph has delusions of grandeur.
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« Reply #1357 on: October 16, 2008, 08:38:20 PM »

I can't afford a bat with the economy the way it is, but I got a big heavy hedge limb. Grin
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« Reply #1358 on: October 16, 2008, 08:42:34 PM »

I can't afford a bat with the economy the way it is, but I got a big heavy hedge limb. Grin

Now your thinking, remember always aim for the head.

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« Reply #1359 on: October 16, 2008, 08:49:40 PM »

I see absolutely nothing wrong with envisioning a utopian society where we don't have to worry about wealth, war, and famine, but let's get real. Even if the vast majority of society were to get in line with this idea (which they never will), it would still take decades, if not centuries, for the world to become even a shadow of Joseph's society. I can't decide whether he's a well-meaning, but incredibly delusional idealist, or some kind of NWO propagandist. I'm not prepared to make that call...

But what I do know is that if we don't set our sights on and focus our efforts toward some kind of achievable goal, then this useless daydreaming is exactly that, useless daydreaming.
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